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21/11/2014  Comments (18)  jump
This article at the FourFourTwo website asserts that the most level-headed followers in Premier League football can be found at Goodison Park — supposedly based on stats they present from surveys conducted jointly with Forza Football measuring the fluctuating level of confidence fans have in the manager, his squad, and the Chairman as the season has progressed.

Roberto Martinez entered the season with a healthy 85% confidence rating amongst Everton fans. That figure dropped as low as 73% in September, on the back of the 3-6 home defeat to Chelsea, but it's slowly risen up to 86% at the last count, in line with Everton's slow rise up the table.

Confidence in the squad has followed a similar trajectory, entering the season at 82%, dropping to a low of 74% after the Chelsea defeat but slowly rising up to 85% as we currently stand, with Everton 10th and climbing (and above Liverpool).

Predictably, chairman Bill Kenwright has gone from 73% to 60% to 75% over the course of the season so far, suggesting a club at peace with itself.

Quotes sourced from FourFourTwo


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Michael Kenrick
1 Posted 21/11/2014 at 16:18:46
Er... level-headed? As much as I hate to use the term, the graph appearing with the original story looks more like a minor degree of 'fickleness' among fans — affected no doubt by the short-term fortunes of the team.

Something that some of our readers have indeed noticed in the general tenor of responses on ToffeeWeb, based on win, lose or draw in our latest fixture. I know there are those of you who react against this, and want fans to take a longer term view, but are the results of this 'survey' really any surprise?

Personally, I think it's perfectly natural and fully expected for confidence to fluctuate based on performances and results — that's what football is all about.

I'm just struggling how it makes our excellent fans 'level-headed'... maybe it's in comparison to the fans of all the other clubs? Although that comparison is not really made in the figures presented.

Michael Kenrick
2 Posted 21/11/2014 at 16:29:12
Ah... what we need on our iPhones is the Forza Football App!!!

Forza Football's innovative features offer fans increased engagement with the game, by giving users the opportunity to vote on fundamental match-related questions, such as:"Do you have confidence in the manager?"; "Do you have confidence in the chairman?"; and "Do you have faith in the current squad?".

Users of the Forza Football app are able to select their favoured response and, to ensure that the decision of each fan is independently made, the cumulative results of the live poll are displayed only after a vote has been cast.

Revolutionizing the relationship between fans and the game that they love, now the opinions of fans can be collated and viewed as one, no longer being concluded unscientifically from Twitter or based upon a pundit's intuition.

The power of t'interweb... wouldya credit it!

Patrick Murphy
3 Posted 21/11/2014 at 16:40:16
How long will it take for technology to completely remove the manager from selecting the team; and the fans via their apps making in-game decisions about who to bring on - Fantasy Football at its finest, Ossie you have been warned.
Harold Matthews
4 Posted 22/11/2014 at 02:22:25
Contrary to the stats, my confidence rose during the Chelsea game. Okay, a few daft mistakes at the back but our attack tore them to ribbons. Sensational stuff.
Peter Gorman
5 Posted 22/11/2014 at 07:00:51
Level-headed? Somebody should send them a link to ToffeeWeb.
Paul Andrews
6 Posted 22/11/2014 at 07:06:22
Reassuring to see 86% trust in Roberto.

There is a small minority who don't of course.

Laurie Hartley
7 Posted 22/11/2014 at 07:19:21
I am not level headed - I am one eyed.
Danny O'Neill
8 Posted 22/11/2014 at 09:26:07
Howard Kendall once called us the most knowledgeable fans in football. I take pride in the fact our fans generally are as passionate as anyone but balanced and can take a view either way.

We are not one-eyed (sorry Laurie) in the cringe-worthy sentimental, emotionally over-hyped "make us dream" Liverpool sense.

We don't project the London-style arrogance; entire fan bases who only seem to go to the match to attempt to wind up the opposition fans as opposed to actually watching and supporting their team (please refrain from ever descending into that awful chant of "Your support is faackin' shit"!!).

We are not Newcastle; the Sky Sports backed self-proclaimed 'best supporters in the country' who seem to revert to booing the moment they aren't 3-0 up after 20 minutes.

We don't carry the awful dreariness and instantaneous fickleness of Aston Villa.

We're Everton; we can actually watch the game, be passionate without going over the top, air our frustration when it's not going right and appreciate good football (both ways, incidentally; I particularly remember Goodison in it's entirety circa 2009 breaking into applause when David Silva took a ball out of the sky on a 6 pence).

I stand down from my soap box!!

Mike Allison
9 Posted 22/11/2014 at 09:38:40
To add to that Danny, I remember a devastated Goodison Park giving a standing ovation to an outstanding Ipswich Town team who were newly promoted but had rocked up at Goodison and taught us a lesson. I think it finished 0-3 but I'm not totally sure, around 1999-2000. We were awful, but the majority of the fans simply understood how well the opposition had played and let that be known.
Mike Allison
10 Posted 22/11/2014 at 09:43:46
As for the original article, it can only mean in comparison to other clubs, although if you follow the additional link, there seem to be clubs whose graph is more level than ours.
Peter Bell
11 Posted 22/11/2014 at 10:26:57
Mike, Ipswich also did that 20 years earlier with a team managed by Bobby Robson.
We got hammered 0 - 4 in one of the finest away performances I have ever seen at Goodison.
Eric Gates scored probably the best goal I ever seen at Goodison in that game in a team that included Muhren and Tysan.
The fans who were there that day knew what they had witnessed an the appreciation was shown to the Ipswich team
Alan McGuffog
12 Posted 22/11/2014 at 17:58:42
Peter,

Ipswich had a fine side then and I don’t think we got a kick in that game. Everyone who was there recognised that the better footballing side won on the day. Making it all the more satisfying to knock them out of the cup a couple of weeks later!

Michael Kenrick
13 Posted 23/11/2014 at 02:51:09
I don't recall that Ipswich game, so looked to see what we have in our Archives — it was actually the following season, Mike (#9):

Saturday 30 September 2000: Everton 0 - 3 Ipswich Town

Perhaps the lowest spot in Walter Smith's 'disappointing' reign as Everton manager? Refreshing to see how critically realistic our fans were then... as now. I don't quite understand why we still have this issue of people being upset about accurate and fully merited critical analysis.

Something about needing to "take the positives" from every situation, no matter how dire... Where does that imperative come from?

Matt Traynor
14 Posted 23/11/2014 at 03:08:42
Whenever a spurious transfer rumour appears, the stock response is "But it's in the Mirror/Mail/Sun/etc. so it's crap".

If anything was ever appropriate to this, it's "It's in FourFourTwo, so it's crap".

I can also remember the (remaining) crowd applauding off Tranmere after they'd comprehensively routed us 3-0 in the FA Cup. I remember the game, Koumas got a move to the Premier League off the back of several performances against higher league sides in cups. One question, to aid the memory - was this under Walter or DM?

Michael Kenrick
15 Posted 23/11/2014 at 03:19:08
Matt, that debacle was the same season, under Walter!

Saturday 27 January 2001: Everton 0 - 3 Tranmere Rovers

Gotta love this final paragraph of the Match Summary:

The game dragged on to the increasing anguish and embarrassment of Evertonians everywhere, eventually petering out to a crescendo of boos as the Goodison "faithful" vented their unremitting anger on the sorry state of Everton Football Club.
Indeed a very low point... before the Moyesiah came to save us!
Tony Abrahams
16 Posted 24/11/2014 at 19:30:51
That Tranmere game was the second worst game I have ever encountered at Goodison Park, after the Glen Keeley debacle.

We were a bad team at the time but had just beaten Coventry at Highfield Road, playing with a few of the kids. What did Walter do? He went for experience and we absolutely embarrassed ourselves. How he never got the sack I will never know.

If my memory is correct, we then played Boro at home in the midweek and there must have been over 30,000 to witness a 2-2 draw. Unbelievably loyal support that night, on one of the many occasions you could say that the club just don't deserve us, even if it was only a fiver to get in!

Tony Abrahams
17 Posted 24/11/2014 at 21:03:07
Just looked on Wikipedia and the gate was over 34,000, which was incredible given the circumstances.

Put up with some shite down the years, haven't we? Which is why I can't wait for us to click into form.

Dick Fearon
18 Posted 24/11/2014 at 23:52:41
Level headed? Not I trust due to having a chip on BOTH shoulders.

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