Besic: Martinez was a big reason why I chose Everton

At least that's what I've read from some quarters.

So you don't think he could have seen Besic do a job in the World Cup while watching the match on TV? I watched just about every match from the comfort of my couch, and I noticed what a good job Besic did. Noticed quite a few real quality players on that Columbia team too. Too bad we didn't sign any of them. Somehow Real Madrid managed to pick up that James Rodriguez was quality without sitting in a TV studio in Brazil.

The fact is Martinez sat around in Brazil for many many weeks, and it was quite apparent there was no planning being done for the preseason. We failed to win a single match in preseason, and that exact trend has continued into the Premier League season. It's no coincidence. He didn't prepare, and he didn't prepare the team. And now we get to watch an Everton side that emulates that thought process, absolutely no sense of urgency during a match.

Instead of seeing a player first hand and stealing him for ٢ million, he could have come home earlier and kicked his heels walking around Finch Farm before the players came back for pre-season.

He's got all the attributes, defensive awareness, can sniff out danger, positional sense, aggression, loves getting stuck in and he can play as well! Him and McCarthy in a couple of years are gonna be some partnership in the heart of our midfield!

Obviously not – read what the lad said "I knew literally nothing about Everton but after speaking with the manager I decided this was the club I wanted to join,"

The operative words here are 'speaking with the manager'.

You can't do that sitting on your arse on a couch!!

That’s a simple one to answer.
During a TV game the camera follows the ball.
Not very helpful if you want to scout a player.

Fucking incredible some of the ignorance spouted on here by the haters.

I do agree, though, that our pre-season was a shambles, whether that was down to Martinez watching hot totty on Copacabana beach is open to debate.

I agree, our pre-season was poor but most of our players were away on international duty so who was there to work with in the summer? Ossie? Distin? Nessie? And some of the kids I suppose.

Jeez, I love this guy now. If he he's only 50% now and improves 100% I'll be ecstatic!

We have all seen what I did against Messi and Bale and he could do that for us if played in right way. He has got that edge, he was telling that little prick Nasri where to go in the first half as well and I don’t think he will take too much shit from other teams – something we have been crying out for years for.

Fair points about 'rough edges' and he has a lot to work on but I think next season he will be a really big player for us.

Barry is below par at the moment and so I would be quite happy with a Besic and McCarthy (when fit) midfield.

Does that mean you don't particularly rate McCarthy? Or he so good that his return is mainly what's needed?

Besic has to play as much as possible and we need to get rid of all the over 30 deadwood at the first opportunity.

You have to remember that he's come from the Hungarian league which is about league 2 level straight into prem. I think he's done fine so far and will only get better with time. A Besic, McCarthy, Barkley MF trio is a mouthwatering prospect IMO.