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Everton beat Stevenage in FA Youth Cup

by | 09/12/2014  Comments (19)  jump
Everton Under-18s travelled to Stevenage for the Third Round of the FA Youth Cup this evening and eventually progressed by a 2-1 scoreline at Broadhall Way, now renamed the Lamex Stadium.

The game went to extra time after 90 goalless minutes but Calum Dyson scored in the first minute of the first extra period and Broadhead added a second for the Young Blues.

Sylvester pulled a goal back for the hosts, though, with seven minutes left setting up a grandstand finish but Everton held out.

Everton U-18s: Hewelt, Yates, Connolly, Walsh (61' Holland), Thorniley, Bainbridge, Donohue (111' Evans), Duffus (70' Robinson), Dyson, Broadhead, Charsley.
Subs not Used: O'Loughlin, Myers.  

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Dave Abrahams
1 Posted 09/12/2014 at 22:01:43
Kenny and Ledson didnÂ’t play, it looks like they will be in the squad to play on Thursday.
John O'Brien
2 Posted 10/12/2014 at 07:24:04
Kieran Dowell also left out so he could be involved as well. He was really impressive for the U21s against Sunderland and is a 1st year scholar just turned 17. Looks a genuine number 10.
Ian Tunstead
3 Posted 10/12/2014 at 13:34:04
Dowel was shite against Sunderland. Never made a tackle or closed anyone down in 90 mins of football, didnÂ’t break sweat. He didnÂ’t contribute anything attacking-wise either for over 80 mins; unless you are Messi and doing the business attacking-wise, then the lack of effort is not acceptable. That was a big opportunity to impress and prove himself but he couldnÂ’t even be arsed to break into a jog.

Meanwhile, Oviedo, who is already a first-team player with much less to prove, was giving it 100% and seemed to be everywhere on the pitch. That is the difference between a player who makes it as a professional and someone who wonÂ’t unless he bucks his ideas up.

Ray Atherton
4 Posted 10/12/2014 at 17:07:47
Whatever happened to the Irish lad, a right winger I think. We signed him last season, he would be about sixteen now. A lot of clubs were very interested in him.
Andrew Keatley
5 Posted 10/12/2014 at 17:19:01
The only player who was really impressive in the Under 21 game v Sunderland was Duncan Watmore – and he plays for Sunderland. Dowell was neat and tidy, but not a lot more. I agree with Ian Tunstead that he didn’t really seem to have a lot of urgency - on or off the ball – and he looks like he might lack a yard of pace. Reminds me of Adam Forshaw; very good footballer, but possibly not at the absolute top level.
Dave Abrahams
6 Posted 10/12/2014 at 18:23:02
Ray Atherton, I think his name is Kinsella and he got injured early in the season, against Liverpool if IÂ’m not mistaken.
Ray Atherton
7 Posted 10/12/2014 at 18:29:29
Thank you, Dave, we were happy that he signed for us.
James Joseph
8 Posted 10/12/2014 at 20:57:58
Andrew (5), itÂ’s perhaps a bit unfair to compare Dowell with Watmore whoÂ’s three years older and has experience of playing in the SPL.

Ian (3), it’s ludicrous to say Dowell ’was shite’ against Sunderland – he had moments when he showed glimpses of genuine talent. But you are right to suggest he would do well to emulate the attitude and effort of Oviedo.

Surely, though, that is one reason, other than gaining match fitness, for a full international like Bryan to play with the youngsters. Then itÂ’s down to the likes of Unsworth to make clear to the young players what they need to do.

Ian Tunstead
9 Posted 11/12/2014 at 00:17:20
James, it is not ludicrous to say Dowel was shite, I was there at the game, I watched him with my own eyes and paid him special attention because I have heard good things about him.

I was furious with him at half-time because there were a few hundred people at the game who would have loved to have been in his shoes while he was just letting a brilliant opportunity slip through his fingers. There is no excuse for lack of effort, itÂ’s the bare minimum you should expect from anyone wearing the Everton shirt, no matter what level.

Don’t get confused, though – I am not saying he is a shite player, I am saying he had a shite game, but what I said is what I saw and I am entitled to my opinion.

I have seen players like him in the past in the form of Jose Baxter and John Paul Kissock who didnÂ’t live up to the hype. If the attitude and effort isnÂ’t there, then they will not fulfill their potential and that natural talent will be wasted and Everton and himself will have lost out.

Sometimes a young player needs a kick up the backside and needs to take notice of professionals like Oviedo who give it their all everytime they step onto the pitch, even if they are having a shite game.

James Joseph
10 Posted 11/12/2014 at 08:37:43
I was there too Ian! I agree with a lot of what you say but still think Â’shiteÂ’ is OTT for his performance that night. If he was shite, what were some of the others?!

Anyway, as I said earlier, itÂ’s up to Unsworth and the other coaches to point out the effort put into the game by an Oviedo or whichever experienced pro they play with, and ensure that Dowell and the other youngsters, and in that U21 team he was the most inexperienced, understand that itÂ’s that kind of effort, both physical and mental, on and off the pitch, that they will have to put in all the time if they want to fulfil their potential.

Dave Abrahams
11 Posted 11/12/2014 at 14:23:12
Ian Tunstead,

I understand what you are saying, I just hope the young players get a decent chance to show what they can do.

I do not think Jose Baxter got a real chance at Everton, there was certainly no lack of effort while he was there, certainly much more than the Russian winger who just strolled around the field doing next to nothing. Baxter was also asked to take a 50% pay cut to stay on at Everton which he refused. He has worked his way back into the game and still has a fair chance of making a go at the top level.

ItÂ’s not always about talent, luck plays a big part in how you get on in the game.

Michael Kenrick
12 Posted 11/12/2014 at 15:41:11
Hi Dave,

I guess I can see your point with Baxter to some extent — just TWO starts in four seasons as a fringe first-teamer isn’t that much of a chance (12 sub apps too).

Then again, if he was really as good as he thought he was, you could argue he would have made a much bigger impression in those opportunities he was given. We all know only too well that he didnÂ’t.

Interesting about the pay cut... 50% chop to stay on with his boyhood club!! That does seem harsh, and would explain why he didn’t sign that two-year contract. As a matter of interest, for the record, where are you getting this from? – as I don’t recall anything being made public about the pay cut at the time. I ask because these things tend to be glommed onto as fact, so it would help to know if this was real or just a rumour doing the rounds.


Ian Tunstead
13 Posted 11/12/2014 at 19:47:48
Someone who doesnÂ’t break sweat or attempt to make a tackle in 90 mins of football and contributes little in attack represents shite to me, James.

Others were shite as well in that game but they are not the ones being praised for a shite performance, unlike Dowell.

Dave, perhaps BaxterÂ’s attitude and effort was more than what Dowell displayed against Sunderland but perhaps BaxterÂ’s problem was his attitude off the field. I seem to remember reading about him mixing with some dodgy characters where drugs were involved.

James Joseph
14 Posted 12/12/2014 at 10:27:26
Good to see Dowell got a game last night for the first team when he gave a performance similar to the one against Sunderland – some lovely touches but little else. However, Ian, in view of your comments, I kept an eye on him when we didn’t have the ball and I would say he certainly ran around and attempted to cover, even made a couple of tackles. Where he struggled was with the pace of the game which was quicker than U18s but slower than Premier League, and with the presence of big, stronger defenders up his backside as soon as the ball came to him or anywhere near him.

I noticed, too, that Roberto, rather than play him on the right wing where he was totally ineffective in the 1st half against Sunderland, put him in the centre where he was more at home and certainly did contribute to the Blues attacking improvement in the 2nd half of the U21 game.

So, while I agree with you that heÂ’s a long way to go if he wants to make it as a pro, I still think your comment is OTT for someone playing only their 2nd or 3rd game for the U21s.

Incidentally, to put that game into context, I see SunderlandÂ’s next match saw them win 4-2 at Man City.

Dave Abrahams
15 Posted 12/12/2014 at 16:13:42
Michael (#12)

I got the story off people close to him who I believe. You seem to be a bit sarcastic over Baxter refusing to sign a new contract, would you carry on working for your firm on half your present salary?

The main reason he didnÂ’t sign was because he was ambitious and knew he would be sitting on the bench for most of that time. I think he knew where he stood with Mr Moyes!!!!!!!!!

Michael Kenrick
16 Posted 12/12/2014 at 16:34:50
Thanks, Dave, I thought it might be something like that. No sarcasm intended — I really thought he had more than just two starts in four years as a fringe player, and was surprised by that, as it perhaps reinforced to some extent your assertion that he wasn’t given a real chance at Everton.

At least it fits the facts — given that he was widely expected to continue trying to break through... yet surprisingly refused to sign the deal at the end of 2011-12 and became a free-agent — in addition to my personal perceptions about the miserable miserly Scottish Presbyterian godbotherer who was in charge at time!

Putting myself in JoseÂ’s shoes for a minute, if the bastardÂ’s offer was half-pay to sit at the feet of the Moyesiah for a another two years... itÂ’s a no-brainer!

Dave Abrahams
17 Posted 12/12/2014 at 16:50:39
Thanks, Michael. It was Alan Stubbs who got him a contract at Oldham Athletic and he wasn't there all that long before he was transferred to Sheffield United for a decent fee, so he will make a good living from the game.
Ian Tunstead
18 Posted 14/12/2014 at 21:00:07
Good on the lad, James, maybe he read my comments. He can thank me later if he becomes regular Everton and England International.
James Joseph
19 Posted 16/12/2014 at 15:55:27
I'm sure he will, Ian!

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