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1 Posted 16/01/2015 at 12:26:24
2 Posted 16/01/2015 at 13:09:33
Who'd have thunk it???
3 Posted 16/01/2015 at 13:09:53
4 Posted 16/01/2015 at 13:25:12
I get the feeling the players have basically dismissed Martinez’s ideas, and gone back to a style they are comfortable with. Watching Jagielka play 60 yard ’passes’ against West Ham on Tuesday confirmed to me they have reverted to type. I would say this makes Martinez’s position untenable.
That’s not say I want to see us play this way, but it’s been clear all season the like of Jagielka is in no way suited to being a ’footballer.’
The sad truth is, mistakes will be punished in this League, and we can’t afford to carry on hoping his methods will somehow come right Â– even after last season. I also think the players became complacent in their work ethic, believing some of the hype being fed to them by the manager and media.
5 Posted 16/01/2015 at 13:35:16
6 Posted 16/01/2015 at 14:42:19
Me thinks we are coming to the point of shit or bust as media articles such as this on Sky do not go unnoticed!
7 Posted 16/01/2015 at 16:03:13
I didn't want him at the club but you give everyone their chance. He really needs to dance for his supper now because its critical.
8 Posted 16/01/2015 at 16:34:17
I'm not a big fan of statistics as they are constantly manipulated to suit arguments. Like Nick, for me the one stat that counts is the league table. We shouldn't be where we are with this team.
This season for me is a write-off, a failure. I don't think we'll get relegated. I think the first decent team we play in the Europa will knock us out. I think Martinez will keep his job if he wants it. In the absence of strong club management, Martinez will have to decide whether his principles or his job are the most important, - not just now, but also in the summer if he's still here. The best managers make mistakes and learn from them, regardless of what they spout in public. We'll find out in the summer if Martinez learns from his - if he doesn't, I'll be straight to the bookies for the first sacked manager market next season.
9 Posted 16/01/2015 at 22:14:22
Sort it Bobby before it's too late
10 Posted 17/01/2015 at 00:55:55
11 Posted 17/01/2015 at 03:35:34
About Martinez, how long is it going to take for the penny to drop that his brand of football is not working? You could actually see a few warning signs last season. But because, for the most part, the football was fairly good, the poor performances were not scrutinized. So Martinez was allowed to carry on and he was given a free reign to carry on with his now infamous "philosophy".
The poor performances last season were the defeats against Sunderland, Crystal Palace, Liverpool and Southampton. The warning signs of what was to come this season were there for all to see.
This season is beyond a joke. If players are changing their tactics to suit their game, and if this is actually being done over the head of Martinez, then why exactly is Martinez at Everton Football Club? And what is his deal with Wigan backroom staff doing about the situation. These people are surely not going to stand by and turn Everton into a Wigan Mk 2. Surely Martinez and his staff have learnt lessons. Or have they?
This is one Everton supporter who thinks that Martinez has learnt nothing... and needs to go now. His brand of football this season is woeful. My mind was made up when he changed nothing in the 3-0 defeat to Southampton... and then talked complete gibberish after the match. Real class from our manager that day... it showed me that he hadn't got a clue.
Here's hoping that Kenwright is brave sooner Â– rather than leaving things too late.
12 Posted 17/01/2015 at 21:53:46
13 Posted 18/01/2015 at 06:39:20
McGeady should be playing for Wigan... oh, wait a minute, he is.
14 Posted 18/01/2015 at 22:43:43
I'm sorry for going a little off beam here... but how did Howard Kendall manage to juggle his limited squad in 1984-85 to win the Football League title, win the European Cup Winners Cup, and reach the final of the FA Cup?
Compare that to the present day. Everton go timidly out of the League Cup; also, in two attempts we cannot see off West Ham, struggle in the Premier League, and complain that a few Europa League games is the reason that we are having a bad season.
Far far too many excuses this season. Has football really changed that much that the modern footballer cannot cope with a couple of games a week? I am a firm believer that a settled team (barring injuries) will yield dividends. But Martinez just cannot help himself, he tinkers IMO just to try and be clever and show that he is is a real master of this great game. And of course when he tinkers Everton get beat.
What tinkering did old Harry Catterick ever do? None. I could name his ream in my sleep. Anyhow.... I reminisce. Those days are gone. Back to the present.
Here's hoping that Martinez and Everton can find a settled side until the end of the season. And here's hoping that we can get back into winning ways. And here's hoping that we have no more injuries and that nobody leaves the club this month. Fine margins win football matches in this league. So here's hoping that we also get a little luck coming our way. And a few refereeing decisions for a change.
No more excuses about having to play too many games and that players are tired. Make Martinez and his players watch and learn from the class of 85.
15 Posted 21/01/2015 at 22:15:29
It's impossible, given our perilous position, to ignore that the fact he must have behaved in exactly the same manner - sticking to his purist principles and explaining how mistaken it would be change one's beliefs - as Wigan were relegated.
Once Wigan were relegated he prsumably consoled himself with the knowledge that he'd nobly stuck to his guns and refused to be influenced by the philistines and non-believers who inhabit the lower reaches of the footballing world. How little they know he must have mused!
Who will tell the Emporer he's Not wearing clothes?Someone has to before it's too late! Is there anyone out there?
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