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John Audsley
1 Posted 04/05/2016 at 19:46:28

Wonderful article, it's always a highlight to read this kind of stuff.

Beats RMs daft soundbites everytime.

I take my hat off to you sir!

Jack Convery
2 Posted 04/05/2016 at 21:31:16

There's a TV drama in this story – someone with the expertise needs to take this on.

A great article – Thanks.

Mick Davies
3 Posted 04/05/2016 at 22:20:45

A Tory, Orange Order member and a Freemason! Nice to see we're a lot more enlightened in our City region now... or are we?

Damian Wilde
4 Posted 04/05/2016 at 00:09:06

Great article, really interesting to hear all this history.

The founder of Liverpool a Tory Orange Lodge member, no wonder they are what they're like now!

Peter Carpenter
5 Posted 04/05/2016 at 00:09:07

So, if Houlding had got his way the team playing Villarreal tomorrow at Anfield would be playing in blue and called Everton and we would all be moaning about a team in another colour with a different name, maybe even Liverpool?

No hard feelings but may I wish the 'recurring tides of ill-fortune' to wash over them tomorrow night like a tidal wave.

Jack Mason
6 Posted 05/05/2016 at 00:20:32

Excellent article, thanks for that.

John Roberts
7 Posted 05/05/2016 at 00:41:17

Terrific post.

Great to read historical articles about the development of the sport in Liverpool – particularly for myself who was born in Everton and lived in Anfield before departing at age 10 for pastures greener.

Dan Davies
8 Posted 05/05/2016 at 00:44:07

C'mon now Mick hush hush. We don't want to be embarrassing the hierarchy at the next Lodge meeting now. Hmmmm.....?

Gerry Morrison
9 Posted 05/05/2016 at 01:45:46

Great stuff Tony. Well done.

Eugene Ruane
10 Posted 05/05/2016 at 10:50:48

Another terrific and genuinely fascinating piece Tony.

Whenever I see you've posted, I think I'll save that 'til I've got ten mins and I can throw the kettle on, grab the digestives and really enjoy it (hard to do that with a 'JUST FUCKING GO MARTINEZ!' rant)

By the way after reading your post, it occurred to me that in 1850-ish, it hadn't been decided (by the public) which games would become national obsessions and which...wouldn't.

"You goin' ye match?"

"Naar, goin' the bowlin' - football's shite"

Strange to think had 'quoits' been a game with more appeal (rather than none) the 1970s could have seen quoits hoolies roaming the country every Saturday.

We could have had 'The County Rd Quoiters'

(I'll get me quoit...COAT!)

Brent Stephens
11 Posted 05/05/2016 at 10:59:42

"We could have had 'The County Rd Quoiters'"

They were actually founded in the 1960's but had to withdraw not long after - Quoiters Interruptus. Too warm for a coat, but...

Bob McEvoy
12 Posted 06/05/2016 at 07:06:40

Always enjoy your stuff Tony... must sdmit didn't realise he was such a self made man but the Orange lodge managed to confirm my prejudice

Tony Onslow
13 Posted 06/05/2016 at 11:01:05

Eugene/Brent, nice to see the genuine , and unprofessional, Liverpool sense of humour is still alive and kicking. County Road Quoiters, brilliant, wished I had thought of that. Mind you I would not like to see one of those large horseshoe shaped lumps of metal whizzing through the air at a local Derby game.

Chris Regan
14 Posted 06/05/2016 at 11:21:29

Very interesting, so they had to pay us compensation when we left. I'll remember that when some RS gob merchant starts going on about couldn't pay the rent.

Dennis Stevens
15 Posted 06/05/2016 at 13:15:05

Great read, as always, Tony. It seems to me, from reading various bits & pieces over the years, that the split owed more than a little to the divide between the Tories & Liberals, often also a divide between brewers/publicans & those who favoured abstinence. Otherwise, Liverpool would have been a one club city - but then again, maybe Everton would have become the Newcastle United of the North West! Perhaps it's that local rivalry that has been key to success of both clubs & part of the reason that Liverpool is the only city never to have had to do without top flight football.

Alan J Thompson
16 Posted 07/05/2016 at 11:16:15

It's great to read the history and to see how things have moved on and wonder what's to come.
Second largest city! What happened and who is responsible? Reminds me of the city being asked to enlarge the Airport but we didn't want the noise and declining to build a container terminal as it would never catch on. At the turn of the 20th century only London had more millionaires than Liverpool. Dare we ask; where are they now?

Don Alexander
17 Posted 07/05/2016 at 22:23:28

Word to the wise Brent, your comments'll be having me classified as a fawner if they make me smile as Eugene does (........but only on occasion "E"!) Behave yourself sir(s)!

Brent Stephens
18 Posted 07/05/2016 at 22:42:14

Don, aye aye, sir.

Peter Mills
19 Posted 10/05/2016 at 21:55:44

I went on a very nice little crawl around some city centre pubs last Friday, it was fascinating to see the Houlding Breweries frosted glass window in the front door of Ye Cracke.

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