Euros over for Irish Blues as they are beaten by France

by | 26/06/2016  112 Comments  [Jump to last]
Everton's Irish contingent are heading home from Euro2016 after falling to hosts France in Lyon this afternoon.

Ireland, with three Blues players in their ranks (but only Seamus Coleman and James McCarthy in the starting XI), were hoping to spring another shock and continue their story of recovery from the brink of elimination following a heavy and potentially damaging defeat to Belgium in their second group game.

That 3-0 defeat had left Martin O'Neill's side with just one point and facing a mountain to climb with the Italians looming as their final opponents in the group.

Robbie Brady's late strike sealed a win, though, and they could secure a place in the last eight if they could overcome the French.

They were on their way early on when Brady converted a penalty in only the second minute but the game turned in eight minutes of the second half.

Antoine Griezmann powered home an equalizer just short of the hour mark and then put France into the lead three minutes later when he swept home an Olivier Giroud knockdown.

Shane Duffy's red card five minutes after that made Irelands's task exponentially more difficult and they were unable to claw their way back to parity.

 

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Tony Abrahams
1 Posted 26/06/2016 at 09:48:24
Can't see "The Irish" winning today, but I would love to see it happen though.

Good luck to them anyway, especially their fantastic supporters. Win or lose, they will definately be on the booze, which never seems to be a problem to these happiest of drinkers!

Damian Wilde
2 Posted 26/06/2016 at 09:58:53
Come on, the Irish boys, do us proud again. Would 'LOVE IT' if they did the French.

They were given no hope against Italy, so you never know! ROI to win!

Jeff Armstrong
3 Posted 26/06/2016 at 10:07:15
McCarthy's passing to teammates is awful, always backwards or sideways, it's always at the player, never a couple of yards ahead. He can't weight a pass either, the ball always lacks pace when he passes it. Have a look today, he is a crab; this guy has gone backwards in the last 2 years.
Thomas Keeley
4 Posted 26/06/2016 at 12:00:36
Either way, I wouldn't want England to come up against either of these two. Ireland remind me of Leicester this season, they play with the passion I have been craving from Everton and England .
Shane Corcoran
5 Posted 26/06/2016 at 12:14:32
Just got back from a fortnight out there. Bollixed but time of my life. Sitting in the premium level with an Irish morphsuit when Brady scored was the highlight.
Andrew Cunningham
6 Posted 26/06/2016 at 13:01:26
Would be great to see the lads get a win but if not it's not the end of the world. To quote someone more famous than me "If it bleeds you can kill it ". We will see. :)
Damian Wilde
7 Posted 26/06/2016 at 13:47:10
Come on Ireland! Lovely hearing an Irishman sing 'Field of Athenry', beautiful. Annoys me that Liverpool sing it and pretend it is their sing (and cringeworthily change the lyrics). Anyone know why they started singing it?

Come on the Irish!

Martin Nicholls
8 Posted 26/06/2016 at 13:54:06
Damian (#7) – my thoughts exactly! As to why the RS sing it, they'd steal the shirt off your back given the chance – remember their attempts to steal the Liver Bird for themselves?
Brent Stephens
9 Posted 26/06/2016 at 13:58:35
Agreed, Damian. Absurd RS adoption / adaptation of the song.
Dave Abrahams
10 Posted 26/06/2016 at 14:05:25
Great start anyway, first penalty they have been awarded – should have had a few more. Hope they can carry on and win this.
Damian Wilde
11 Posted 26/06/2016 at 14:20:54
Martin, ha ha, you're right! It always annoys me when they sing it, Brent!

Agree, Dave, great start. Brilliant. Seamus playing well, a warrior. Captain for Everton?

Jamie Crowley
12 Posted 26/06/2016 at 14:38:43
Holding breath for the Irish. Hang on boys get to half and then defend like titans!

Hate the French, their fans, Henry, et al... Justice 7 years later is in order.

Jamie Crowley
13 Posted 26/06/2016 at 14:44:15
Does anyone else feel immense pride in Seamus wearing that armband? I do.
Damian Wilde
14 Posted 26/06/2016 at 14:45:07
Playing well. RM ditched Duffy in favour of Alcaraz, who is better?!
Mark Frere
15 Posted 26/06/2016 at 14:47:02
No I don't Jamie.
Rob Halligan
16 Posted 26/06/2016 at 14:53:55
Damian #7. The RS weren't even the first fans to sing YAWN. Man Utd fans sang it following the Munich air disaster. The Red Shite didn't adopt it until 1963 when Gerry Marsden had a hit with it.
Eugene Kearney
17 Posted 26/06/2016 at 14:54:13
Allez les Verts....Allez les Verts,....Allez les Verts !!!

Good on yiz, lads – needed another before half time...

Maybe Seamus will bomb up the wing at the start of the second half, chip one over for a header.....

Damian Wilde
18 Posted 26/06/2016 at 14:59:44
Yes Jamie, I do. Captain of Everton?

Seriously, Rob! I didn't know that. Great ripping material for me now: "Why are you singing a Man U song, mate?" I suppose them being the greatest and best human beings ever, they can take songs.

Rob Halligan
19 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:01:51
The story being, following the crash a large group of United fans congregated at OT, and one of the songs they sung was YAWN. Pity they didn't carry it on for matches.
Brent Stephens
20 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:02:30
Yes, I think Seamus might well make a good captain for Everton. A motivator and leader. Always 100%. And would get in the ref's face.
Andy Meighan
21 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:03:26
They've been great here, Ireland. Haven't looked in any sort of trouble. Hope they keep it up and go through but it's gonna be a long 50-odd mins for them. I've been impressed with McCarthy and that's the first time I've said that for over 2 years. But please no crying at the final whistle. It's embarrassing, boys. Come on, Ireland!!!
Colin Glassar
22 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:04:45
Two of the best footballing teams, France and Croatia, could be out in 45 mins.
James Hughes
24 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:22:00
Bugger it, now the French have two...
Paul English
26 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:29:59
James McCarthy is shit....
Damian Wilde
27 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:34:34
Gutted. See Girioud falling to the ground, idiot. And how did Ireland not get a corner just before the goal?!

As well as Girioud, Evra in the ref's face, pricks. Unlucky here Ireland.

Colin Glassar
28 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:36:41
Despite admiring the Irish grit and determination, France are a vastly superior team. I think they will give Iceland a beating in the quarters.
Damian Wilde
29 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:37:36
Is anybody else irritated by Andy Townsend?
Paul English
30 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:37:52
Schoolboy football from Ireland ...
Colin Glassar
31 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:42:04
He said McCarthy was to blame for the second goal even though he was miles away from it. Townsend is an idiot.
Jamie Crowley
32 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:44:56
I'm on the American feed with Martin Tyler (who's SO FUCKING PROPER but he's fine...).

How can you possibly blame McCarthy for that goal??

McCarthy has played fantastically in that holding role for Ireland – take note Ronald!

Brent Stephens
33 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:53:58
Sad but well done Ireland to go so far and play so well.
Paul English
34 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:55:28
Plucky Ireland... Who does that remind you of!!!!!
Jamie Crowley
35 Posted 26/06/2016 at 15:59:09
Hold your heads high. No shame in this effort or the tournament. Hope the Irish fans are pleased (if not disappointed) on the whole. Well done.
Brin Williams
36 Posted 26/06/2016 at 16:04:05
Bloody good show Ireland.
Paul Andrews
37 Posted 26/06/2016 at 16:04:43
Colin,

McCarthy was 5 yards away from Griezeman 40 yards from goal. James didn't follow the run.

Tony Hill
38 Posted 26/06/2016 at 16:07:13
They were shattered by the end but well done, RoI. Our boys did fine.

I wasn't greatly impressed by France, certainly not in defence, and I don't see them winning the tournament. They will miss Kante and Rami in the next round too.

Eric Holland
40 Posted 26/06/2016 at 16:11:49
Hope the Irish contingent will be giving the same support to England tomorrow.
Rob Halligan
41 Posted 26/06/2016 at 16:22:54
Unlucky Ireland. Blatant corner not given just before the French second goal. Seamus has been a good stand-in captain, which has not affected his game. He would make a good captain for us, I think.
Oliver Molloy
42 Posted 26/06/2016 at 16:33:59
Eric @ 40.

I don't know if I qualify in the "Irish contingent" you refer to, but I am Irish.

I couldn't give a shite about international football but can tell I will l laugh my bollocks off if Iceland manage to win.

Kunal Desai
43 Posted 26/06/2016 at 16:38:28
James McCarthy has been shite for quite some time. One of Koeman's first objectives should be to get rid of him. If he is to stay, he is no more than a squad player.
Trevor Lynes
44 Posted 26/06/2016 at 16:50:27
What I dislike about the Irish, Welsh and Scots is the absolute fact that they really hate the English and that is despite the fact that many live in England.My parents were both Welsh but I was born in Huyton and do not feel the slightest bit Welsh.I do however like to see any of the home nations do well in European or World tournaments.This is not reciprocated and I do not understand the reason...is it just jealousy ?None of the North Welsh show any interest in football until they do OK....most of them support Merseyside or Manchester clubs.

I really hate this nationalism !!They have all performed quite well and should be praised, but get shut of all the English bashing FFS.

Tony Abrahams
45 Posted 26/06/2016 at 16:58:11
It looked like one defender, was blaming his mate for coming across, which left a big hole for Griezeman.
Andy Crooks
46 Posted 26/06/2016 at 16:58:55
Trevor, I am Irish and absolutely do not hate the English. I don't like the nationalism but I like an under dog and tend to cheer for them. I reckon England will beat Iceland and France and then, who knows.
Paul Conway
47 Posted 26/06/2016 at 17:01:01
Yes! the French fans typically indulge in their Olé, Olé, against a 10-man Ireland team drained. Let's not hear them singing it again. who will give them their comeuppance... England, I hope; please rise to the occasion!
Brian Hennessy
48 Posted 26/06/2016 at 17:05:04
I'm as Irish as they come and would love to see England do well for the rest of the tournament. If they can get past Iceland, I think they can beat this French side, they look very average at the back.
Tony Hill
49 Posted 26/06/2016 at 17:14:04
I suspect McCarthy is not fully fit. He's another one who will, I hope, flourish under the new manager. Writing him off is to disregard his first season with us. His second season was blighted by injury and though he was poor last season, so was almost everyone else.

He comes in for particular criticism because he has gone into his shell and typified the Martinez sterility. He looks short of confidence as well.

The form he showed in 2013-14 is in there somewhere, it needs to be recovered.

Brin Williams
50 Posted 26/06/2016 at 17:18:02
There seems to be a misunderstanding about the difference between nationalism and patriotism. That may be difficult for some to understand but far be if for me a Welshman to give anyone and English lesson. - although there is a distinct possibility that Iceland could hand out a lesson or two - as in the Cod War.

Oh yes, there is also the question of racism that seems to raise it's ugly head now and again - but that's another matter, or is it the same thing as nationalism in some people's eyes.

Who knows, who cares so long as we Welsh keep winning! Cymru am Byth!

Shane Corcoran
51 Posted 26/06/2016 at 17:21:27
Trevor, jealous of what?

I hate their Rule Brittania and God Save The Queen shite. Their fans get a bad reputation and some, rightly claim it's unfair, yet I've never encountered so many fans that, even though they don't look for a fight, you just sense they'd be right up for one.

Their red top and TV media are a laugh though so I enjoy watching them to see the expectations come crashing down.

I feel sorry for the players and management though, they have to put up with all this shite.

Keith Monaghan
52 Posted 26/06/2016 at 17:24:09
Colin @ 31- you're right & WRONG! He was miles away - but because he was dozy & ball-watching & didn't track his man (Griezmann) like he should have done!
A mediocre championship player at best - great 1st season but totally ineffective in the last two.
Colin Glassar
53 Posted 26/06/2016 at 17:32:55
I'm not going to defend McCarthy. He's a limited player who does a job, like Carsley did. Every team needs a player like him but I do believe he was carrying a knock throughout this tournament.

As for the English vs home nations rivalry, I think it's only the scots who really dislike us when it comes to sports. They have an 'anyone but England' attitude but away from sporting events I don't feel any particular dislike from them. It's just good banter.

Brin Williams
54 Posted 26/06/2016 at 17:44:51
Colin - 53 'I think it's only the scots who really dislike us'

Why would you think that? - Everybody dislike the English, Welsh, Scots, Irish, French, Germans ... even the fuckin Russians.... do I have to go on....I wonder why?

Mick Davies
55 Posted 26/06/2016 at 17:57:05
For those blaming McCarthy for the French goal, yet slagging off RM for letting Duffy go, give your heads a shake. McCarthy hasn't been fit since our last match, yet had to play for Ireland. O'Neill is famed for throwing unfit players in, as admitted by 'Evertonian' Jon Walters after the game, who was brought on despite having an injury.
Thanks to the useless Duffy and his reckless challenge, McCarthy, who had been excellent, was now marking two French players, so please lay off the Everton players, and give them credit for helping a small nation get close to beating the hosts and reaching the Q.F.'s of a major tournament. Well done Ireland - and another useless behind the goal official contributes nothing
Paul Tran
56 Posted 26/06/2016 at 18:21:30
Brin, I don't judge people on where they were born, just on what they say and do. So if 'everyone' dislikes the English they've never met, well, in my book that says more about them than me and my fellow countrymen.

And I hope you win your next game.

Jim Hardin
58 Posted 26/06/2016 at 18:25:40
I have now watched two Irish teams, who on paper, shouldn't have had a chance, take on one good team and one loaded team and play them with intensity, pride, grit, and complete effort. Excellent for the players, coaches, respective fans and for the respective FAs. Great effort and a little bit unlucky for both, but especially Northern Ireland.

Only sad part is that the Irish fan, both sets, who have been a credit to the respective nations, will be going home. The fan relations at the Euros just became a lot less cordial and entertaining.

Liam Reilly
59 Posted 26/06/2016 at 18:28:34
Well Trevor 44
What I dislike is people who generalise others into perceived buckets. narrow minded shite.

I'm irish, lived in the UK for a number of years and will be watching and hoping both England and Wales can continue to do well in the tournament.

Sam Hoare
60 Posted 26/06/2016 at 18:30:30
Let's buy Draxler!

Unlikely I know but that would be quite a statement and reckon he could do a job in that left wing spot...

Tony Hill
61 Posted 26/06/2016 at 18:30:35
There's a very good article by Robbie Fowler in The Mirror, making an overdue case for Ross Barkley for England and making other interesting comments about the tournament, including one about the misconceived reliance upon full backs as an attacking strategy.
Dennis Ng
62 Posted 26/06/2016 at 18:35:43
Sam, I think Draxler's name was thrown around a few days ago and agree, he would be a great player to add to our team. Hopefully we'll add a German GK as well.
Colin Glassar
63 Posted 26/06/2016 at 18:38:16
Brin, you've left me heartbroken. There I was thinking we were popular.

Good post Mick, Macca has become the new Ossie ie blame him for everything, bad weather included.

Tony, if Stonesy and Ross don't play tomorrow they could be the only two unused outfield players who never got a game. I know neither have been particularly good these last few months but if England get knocked out tomorrow the media boys will probably pick up on this and crucify Roy with it. I expect both of them to start, or figure, at least.

Tony Hill
64 Posted 26/06/2016 at 18:42:44
Colin, I think Wilshere has lost his chance now, so that might give some space for Ross in particular.
Sam Hoare
65 Posted 26/06/2016 at 18:43:07
Denis, think I'd be pretty happy if we bought Leno, Howedes and Draxler. Bit of German efficiency. Draxler will have many suitors though...
Paul Setter
66 Posted 26/06/2016 at 18:47:47
Colin @63 McCarthy can't become the next Osman in taking abuse as McCarthy offers absolutely nothing. He just runs around looking busy and does a poor job of that. Osman offered a fair bit more!!

I for one hope this League One player at very best is one the first out the door under this new regime.

Dennis Ng
67 Posted 26/06/2016 at 18:49:34
Sam, ya, but we have Moshiri LOL Didn't see much of Leno and Howedes but young German internationals are always welcome addition.
Brin Williams
68 Posted 26/06/2016 at 18:56:06
Did you see it? - Vorsprung durch Technik - glad they are not in our half of the table.... and.....there's Iceland .. now that's a problem!
Colin Glassar
69 Posted 26/06/2016 at 18:59:58
It will probably be Henderson, Milner and lallana in MF, Tony. Notice the common denominator?
Tony Hill
70 Posted 26/06/2016 at 19:04:03
Yup, would just be nice to see him get a chance.
Jeff Armstrong
71 Posted 26/06/2016 at 19:20:01
Barkley will not get a sniff, even if Woy drops Jack Wilshere he will still turn to the likes of him and Milner to bring on later, rather than Ross, who is just there to make up the numbers. He'd have been better off on a beach somewhere than at this over-bloated tournament.

Stones will maybe get a chance as he's the only centre-back cover.

Keith Harrison
72 Posted 26/06/2016 at 19:22:14
Funny, all the Welsh seem to have abandoned their national game (not the one with sheep), wonder why, NZ???.....
Eric Holland
73 Posted 26/06/2016 at 19:34:14
Keith that is so cruel!!!
Keith Harrison
75 Posted 26/06/2016 at 19:41:05
Sorry, Eric.
And apologies to the Welsh nation with the exception of Brin who has been wumming since the tournament started.
One decent tournament - so far - and "We are the greatest team the World has ever seen". Did England play them recently?
Jamie Barlow
76 Posted 26/06/2016 at 19:46:12
Nice to see Ireland show some solidarity with the UK and exit Europe too...
Keith Harrison
77 Posted 26/06/2016 at 19:47:49
HA Jamie. Come tomorrow night, will Wales be our Queens only representatives at the Euros?
Colin Metcalfe
78 Posted 26/06/2016 at 19:52:42
Colin # 63 mate I am quite happy to keep the pair on the bench , hopefully Stones will stay with us and we can get them back to finch farm fresh without injuries where they can start working with RK !
As for England they should cruise past Iceland with their B team however next round will be Au revoir !

Ian Bennett
79 Posted 26/06/2016 at 20:10:36
Keith 72 - we support both mate, and we always hope England lose on penalties. It knocks years off our mortgages...
Mark Griffiths
80 Posted 26/06/2016 at 20:18:52
Good effort by ROI but watching the game I wouldn't mind having Antione Griezmann at Everton! Great player. In fact there were a few of that French team that really stood out, in particular the wide player....Caman??? Can't quite remember his name.
Keith Harrison
81 Posted 26/06/2016 at 20:25:01
Regards to your Phil, Ian. Set up the greatest try of all time. Forgive my ignorance on the mortgage front mate. Cant see the point of buying a home then setting fire to it. Or was that just North Wales? LOL.
And not in a gloating way, can I point out that England have beaten Wales at both sports in the last month.
Agree our lads can come home now and get a good pre-season in though.
Ian Bennett
82 Posted 26/06/2016 at 20:36:10
The brothers only set fire to the English holiday homes. It's our bit of banter for the sheep jokes, but they don't seem to laugh at our jokes. LIGHTEN up lads :-)
Brin Williams
83 Posted 26/06/2016 at 20:45:00
So apart from the Welsh, who have no Evertonia Interest, the ROI who have, the NI who you all feel sorry for and the mighty Engelaanders who are playing the Icemen, what about Evertonian interest in the bag of sand you call Lukaku and his Belgian friends. What do we think of the Belgs and Mr Lukaku in particular.
Or shall we discuss the finer points of Mr Hodgsons galacticos while they are still in the comp?.
Jamie Barlow
84 Posted 26/06/2016 at 20:49:53
Or we could discuss how shit Wales would be without that bloke from Planet of the Apes.
Colin Glassar
85 Posted 26/06/2016 at 20:55:03
Why all the aggro lads?
Dave Pritchard
86 Posted 26/06/2016 at 20:58:29
Just clicked in to this thread and now leaving it as the neanderthals are out in force again.
Brin Williams
87 Posted 26/06/2016 at 21:12:56
Bed early tonight boys - big day tomorrow - off you go!
Damian Wilde
88 Posted 26/06/2016 at 21:39:49
I always want all home nations to win, but in my experience I often hear Scots say they love it if England get done, I guess 'cause of jealousy. Bizarre though as England are crap. I'm not bothered about England, like the rest of you my interest is Everton.

See Hazard tonight? Fantastic. Sign him.

Paul Tran
89 Posted 26/06/2016 at 21:41:46
I'm watching the match, Brin. Hazard's been superb. Lukaku got little or no servcice and a minute after he was subbed, his replacement got a beautiful cross to tap in. Cue the calls on here to sign him up.

Funny team, Belgium. Very talented, great when they fancy it, but I can't help feeling they're always beatable.

Tom Bowers
90 Posted 26/06/2016 at 22:10:22
Lukaku wasn't impressive except for one or two passes he made but he looks very lethargic at times.
That, however doesn't say much for Benteke and Origi who cannot get a kick for the most part.
Trevor Lynes
91 Posted 26/06/2016 at 22:14:39
Hazard is a fantastic player but he wants to play the Arsenal way and Belgium were only a goal up with 15 minutes left.Lukaku played well but never got the right service even though he ran off the ball and made space.I don't think he suits the Belgian style of play but he certainly put a shift in.Hazard is brilliant but also infuriating by holding the ball too long.In reality the game could have been 8 - 3 with only half the chances taken.Wales have a chance if they sit on Hazard as Belgium totally rely on him.
Colin Glassar
92 Posted 26/06/2016 at 22:27:23
Rom got decent service first half and played well. Rom got ZERO service second half and was pulled. Is it so hard to see? Is it so hard to understand that forwards need to receive the ball to create chances? Would the likes of Muller, Klose, Greaves, Lineker (goal hangers) etc.....have scored so many goals without decent service?
Ray Robinson
93 Posted 26/06/2016 at 22:42:22
Modern forwards (the good ones) tend to be a lot more mobile than Lukaku. The likes of Aguero, Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Neymar, Kane, Sturridge will go looking for the ball when it doesn't come to them. Lukaku generally tends to expect the ball to come to him although when we do play on the break, he can be reasonably effective. I don't think that he has the physique, stamina or, dare I say it hunger, to put himself around the pitch more. Benteke is suffering at Liverpool for the same reason. The old fashioned centre forward is disappearing from the modern game. He has to adapt - if he can - to progress to the next level.
Paul Kelly
94 Posted 26/06/2016 at 22:47:32
Hazard-greedy, Belgium would of had more momentum if he'd release the ball a bit sooner.

Good goal though.

Colin Glassar
95 Posted 26/06/2016 at 22:56:33
I have to agree Ray, Rom is an old fashioned centre forward he's not anything like the players you mentioned. Either play to his strength or get rid. I think Ronald will try and play to his strengths.
Mark Fitzgerald
96 Posted 26/06/2016 at 23:00:17
Proud of the Irish lads today; valiant effort but ultimately beaten by the better team, gutted but no real complaints. No shortage of passion & commitment out there but we lacked some world class talent like Griezmann, some player.
I wish the English & Welsh the best of luck for the rest of the tournament. And a shout out to our Northern neighbours who also acquitted themselves with distinction.
The Germans seem to be motoring like one of their 'vorsprung durch technik' cars and will, I think, take some beating.
Keith Harrison
97 Posted 26/06/2016 at 23:03:22
Ian (82) sorry mate - I am laughing. Brin, I have Wales and Belgium in the ToffeeWeb sweep (OF), and won't be supporting either.
Unless it's Everton, I have little interest in footy tbh. I hope Romlak is tournament top scorer so that his value goes up then RK ships him out.
I'm not anti-Welsh, just anti anybody that states they are anti-English.
Paul Olsen
98 Posted 26/06/2016 at 23:07:32
Think Lukaku did well with what came his way in this game. Particularly in the first half. Good game from Lukaku overall.
Michael Polley
99 Posted 26/06/2016 at 23:11:13
Ray (93) totally agree. Standing around the penalty area waving your hands does nothing. A good front man will go looking for the ball and help his midfield win possession.
Michael Polley
100 Posted 26/06/2016 at 23:13:31
I believe the French had 3 extra days rest. Not really fair on the Irish lads. You could tell they were knackered.
Don Alexander
101 Posted 26/06/2016 at 23:48:59
Sorry Paul and others praising Lukaku but I thought he was lethargy personified against mighty Hungary, as we've seen as the season died for us. On the plus side though I saw him in the first half do what I can't remember him ever doing at Everton, chasing back deep into his own half having lost the ball, again, due to his sledgehammer touch in receiving a pass. No, he didn't actually get a tackle in or win the ball back or anything but two or three seconds later he was bent over, hands on knees, looking fooked......in the first half.

What's that all about? Hopefully RK and his team can add to his qualities by getting him and our other tackle-shy "superstar" slimmer, faster, fitter and nastier for the season to come.

Dick Fearon
102 Posted 26/06/2016 at 23:55:56
Belgium looked ten times better after Rom was subbed.
Colin Glassar
104 Posted 27/06/2016 at 00:22:49
Rom is definitely the new marmite.
Charles Brewer
105 Posted 27/06/2016 at 08:31:08
The Irish team will return with glory, as will the Welsh (and the Northern Irish too). All have so far fought with passion, energy even though (apart from Bale for Wales) they don't have a single world-class player amongst them.

All three have done far better than they had any right to expect (indeed, I don't think any of them had any right to expect even being in France), and all have performed brilliantly, bravely and with performances deserving of high praise.

And then there is Woy's England, with the energy and commitment of a Lukaku. the wage bill of the Saudi royal family, the leadership skills of a Jeremy Corbyn, and the on-field tactical skills of the French army at Agincourt, this dreary rabble will probably beat Iceland (hmmm, impressive!) 1-0 through a scrambled goal in the 85th minute, and then lose 3-0 without anything resembling serious resistance. Once again, there will not have been any performance by the team or players which will exceed the miserable.

I rather expect that Barkley and Stones will be put on in the 89th minute of the 3-0 loss and will be blamed for everything.

I write this as an Liverpool-born Englishman with a remote Welsh ancestry, no Irish or Scottish that I know of. The more time goes by, the more I loathe the England football team, its organisation and management. It is the new Top Gear of world football.

Brin Williams
107 Posted 27/06/2016 at 09:19:27
Right - after a good night's sleep and feeling anti-nothing at the mo let's go back to last night's discussion

This 'hate', 'don't like' thing is always taken out of context and most often raises it's head when 'team games' 'Countries' play against each other. Surely every one has some bias unless you are completely out of the system and local rivalry will always bring out arguments and strong feelings.

Being Welsh is no exception and as has been said on here so often in the past week - this is the best we have ever done in a football competition - you will therefore excuse us if we appear delirious when we manage to get a corner, Gareth Bale farts, or we thrash a half hearted Russian Bear and end top of the group, which gives us an 'easier' passage into the Semi Final of the European Competition.

There are no Everton players in the Welsh team this time, but over the years we have had our fair share but as always not enough high standard players to make a difference. We have invariavbly relied on 'heart' this time we have a certain amout of talent and always heart. What is more we have 'pride' - we have a history of being underdogs of being browbeaten and subjected to foreign rule - those images line the North Wales coast in the forms of massive castles built to keep a nation down. But the worm has turned albeit perhaps only fleetingly.

So, we will enjoy the moment whatever future results, as at Everton 'Nothing will be the Same again' we the Welsh have experienced what it is like to sit at the top table and will not want to relinguish our place any time soon.

I do not hate the "English' my grand-mother was English, I speak English BUT I do hate the RED SHITE with real venom. My son in law is a Liverpool FC supporter as is the light of my life, my little grandson - do I hate them - do I fuck!

Tony Abrahams
108 Posted 27/06/2016 at 09:30:02
Ray 93, good point. If Lukaku, is to leave, I don't think we would miss any aspect of his game, except goals.

Don 101, I fell asleep at half time, which was possibly the result of Keown's little quips of shite. Did you hear what he said when Lukaku, chased back? Great work off Lukaku, forcing an error out of his opponent, completely ignoring why he had to chase back.

I thought Romelu, played like a nearly man. Some good work, but the final pass, was either the wrong option, or just a little bit too short for his teammate.

I think he's a player who needs help, but not many teams play 4-4-2, in the modern game.

Sam Hoare
109 Posted 27/06/2016 at 09:38:35
Sometimes I feel we are speaking about Lukaku as though we are Barcelona!

The lad is far from perfect and like most 'heavy' strikers can be infuriating at times but he's scored more goals for us than any other player in ages. Its not like we've got Suarez and Neymar waiting in the wings to replace him. Our other options are Kone and Niasse!

Given the new regime etc I feel we should try and get behind the lad up until he leaves as its very possible that he may stay and if he does then he will be a vital player for us next season.

Tony Dove
110 Posted 27/06/2016 at 09:52:58
Lukakku not great for Belgium and for me he is fortunate to be first choice. Seamus excellent, he never seems to tire, and could make a decent captain for us. I hope Ross gets on at some stage tonight but only likely if England are coasting. Stones could still make an impact through injury or suspension. If not its back to Peaky Blinders.
Damian Wilde
111 Posted 27/06/2016 at 10:00:55
Paul:

"Hazard-greedy."

He was the best player on the pitch.

Max Murphy
112 Posted 27/06/2016 at 11:03:49
Charles (#105) Excellent post - a very good read. On top of that, I have to agree with everything you say!
Guy Hastings
113 Posted 27/06/2016 at 11:37:32
Charles 105 - it's the old Top Gear of football, too.
Keith Harrison
114 Posted 27/06/2016 at 13:08:43
Charles (105). Great post.
Brin, enjoy your day in the sun, honestly. I wouldn't mind England losing tonight as long as JS or Ross don't play. The likelihood is, even then, that we will be losing, Woy uses them for a couple of minutes and they get injured and the complete blame for not lifting the trophy.
Sam, how much has Rom/Agent/dad polarised our dressing room? Shout your mouth off and play shite for three months (forget the goal against Chelsea - it is akin to Barnes goal against Brazil getting him 50 more caps than he should have had), and we'll double your salary and bend over backwards. I'm sure this will go down a storm with those who work their bollocks off, keep quiet, and put it in week in and out. That's why I would get rid of him mate, not singly because he struggles to hit a cows arse with a banjo.
That's unless RK is changing the whole dressing room.
Lets just bring 'em all home safe. And get a proper pre-season in.

A final Rugby analogy, Eddie Jones had 14 of Englands last team under Stuart Lancaster in his squad on Saturday. Only 2 of the 15 starters were not regulars under SL. Basically the same team Lancaster had have just wiped the floor with the Aussies at their place. Just shows what a different coach can do. Let hope RK is our Eddie Jones.

Christy Ring
116 Posted 27/06/2016 at 19:31:37
A lot of senseless comments about McCarthy. Against Italy and France yesterday, before he ran out of steam, he was outstanding. O'Neill played him in his proper position, defensive midfielder and I hope that's where Koeman plays him.
Keith Harrison
117 Posted 27/06/2016 at 20:51:02
I'm with you Brin. Come on Iceland. Send our clueless shower of sh*t home without playing Ross or JS.
Jim Jennings
118 Posted 27/06/2016 at 22:59:21
When the question of why we (the Irish) don't cheer on England in these tournaments comes up, my mind always goes back to Ardal O'Hanlon being asked that same question on the Jonny Vaughan show during the 2002 World Cup.

Vaughan: So Ardal, could you please answer this burning question 'why, given that we English are always delighted to see the Irish team do well, do the Irish fans dislike the English so much?!!' (cue a collective
inquisitive 'yeah?' from the audience).

Ardal: Well, Jonny I'd say that was more down to the 800 years of repression to which you've subjected our people and the fact that you still occupy 6 counties in our country than anything else.

Tony Waring
120 Posted 28/06/2016 at 15:51:39
Echoing Mick at 55. I too am wondering why they have extra officials behind each goal. The number of times they missed corners and fouls was disgraceful. They are pointless and an unnecessary expense!
Alan McGuffog
121 Posted 28/06/2016 at 16:16:53
Tony and Mick... in the game in general you can extend that to the linesmen (I refuse to call them 'assistant referees'). My feeling is that so many referees are Billy Big Bollocks types who don't feel they need any help. They are not so far removed from the guys who ref Sunday League who instruct the linesman, usually provided by the teams,....."Just throw-ins and offsides, lads".

Let' s face it, how often have you seen a blatant foul near the touch line, referee nowhere near, and the linesman stands there like a bloody statue with his flag by his side.

Yeah, sure, they are all miked up etc but, in my humble opinion, they are shit-scared of upsetting the man in the middle.

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