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Report: Brands to meet Silva this week

Dominic King reports that the Blues' new director of football is taking the lead on negotiating terms with the former Watford man who remains the front-runner for the job in the wake of Sam Allardyce's removal last week.
The same report repeats a similar assertion made by the Mail earlier this week that Bill Kenwright could soon step down to usher in Alisher Usmanov, the Uzbek-born billionaire who has been frustrated in his attempts to gain a seat on Arsenal's board of directors.
Usmanov has always insisted he has no intention of selling his 30% stake in the Gunners but he has been unsuccessful in persuading owner Stan Kroenke to relinquish control at The Emirates.
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2 Posted 22/05/2018 at 00:02:37
3 Posted 23/05/2018 at 00:49:46
It's summer and everyone is taking their foot off the pedal at Everton after having such a tumultuous season. The appointment will be made in due course over the next few days or week. Of course, Silva will meet with Brands and Moshiri may look for reassurances from Brands. But it is not that Brands holds all the cards. Moshiri may have asked Brands to meet with Silva and find a working relationship, and that is the extent of it.
Paperwork needs to be taken care of and Mr Moshiri isn't sitting at Finch Farm daily waiting for the paperwork to arrive. It is more a case of the paperwork waiting for when Mr Moshiri is free, which could be on a given day, which is forthcoming.
4 Posted 23/05/2018 at 01:04:12
5 Posted 23/05/2018 at 01:07:28
Interesting times... Pivotal even.
6 Posted 23/05/2018 at 01:28:45
7 Posted 23/05/2018 at 01:41:13
8 Posted 23/05/2018 at 03:35:20
I wonder why we didn't go for him? Premier League winner and plenty of experience in Champions League. And if he signed for West Ham, surely he would have considered us as an option.
9 Posted 23/05/2018 at 03:53:56
Though I can't see these two meeting up and not having a conversation about shampoo/conditioner combo or the benefits of a Hard Part Pompadour with Mid Bald Fade.
10 Posted 23/05/2018 at 05:23:09
â— At Board level, they haven't a clue who should manage Everton.
â— The chasing after SIlva has all the hallmarks of the Koeman recruitment debacle. Though this time the shortcoming of Silva are in the English and in the British Press. . . No one has said yet they have read about his history in the Portuguese press.
â— The list of candidates for the Everton job is non-existent, as Brands is finding out.
â— The Club has been damaged by the Koeman and Allardyce tenures.
â— The appointment should be for five years such is the mess, but a one year contract is less risky given the candidates available or coming forward.
â— Once again Pellegrini was missed.
â— It appears that the Board have been sitting on their hands all season.
â— Moshiri was sticking with Allardyce for next season up to a month before the end of the season.
â— Silva in his time off has been looking for a job elsewhere and has some offers.
Brands is now being expected to pull a suitable Manager out of the hat at short notice; hopefully he can.
11 Posted 23/05/2018 at 07:37:27
12 Posted 23/05/2018 at 07:39:27
Not doubting Pellegrini is/was a good Manager, but many feel – and I include myself in that category – that maybe he is too old, bathchair and buckets, as one TW described him on another thread.
I am becoming increasingly impressed with Marcel Brands's approach to the post; talk about new brooms etc.
13 Posted 23/05/2018 at 07:46:35
Is a mid bald fade what Martinez suffered once we appointed him?
14 Posted 23/05/2018 at 07:47:23
15 Posted 23/05/2018 at 08:27:58
16 Posted 23/05/2018 at 09:13:13
17 Posted 23/05/2018 at 10:00:04
I have faith that Brands will deliver much more than Walsh ever did. The chasing of Silva doesn't have the hallmarks of Koeman.
The season finished over a week ago, West Ham and Arsenal have just announced new managers and I'm sure we will be doing the same later this week or early next week.
It certainly is a pivotal summer to get many things right. We cannot have a repeat of the last two summers and it comes to a point where the fans have no confidence in the board.
It certainly is set to be an interesting summer ahead.
18 Posted 23/05/2018 at 10:23:49
So: Howe versus Silva versus Benitez versus Arteta as these are the only real options at present.
19 Posted 23/05/2018 at 10:34:18
Sorry, I don't think Moshiri was ever sticking with Sam.
20 Posted 23/05/2018 at 10:35:16
Why hasn't he got another job since???? My guess is since January he's been told to start planning for next season at Goodison Park which hopefully is a good thing.
21 Posted 23/05/2018 at 10:40:57
The ‘Advance hair studio' will be sporting his egg in the nest bonce, (before and after photos) in the back page of every ‘quality' tabloid very soon I should imagine.
As for Brands, I ain't seen such a head of hair since Simba come of age in the Lion King.
22 Posted 23/05/2018 at 10:41:16
Unless we are going on a spending spree we need a coach to get the best out of what we have – so I'm ruling out Arteta.
Benitez is a decent manager but would just be a side-show like Allardyce.
I like Howe, he's a risk... who knows. Maybe a British manager fits better at the club right now?
Silva seemed to be our choice at the point we were making bad choices – let's see what Brands thinks
It would be nicer if we were poaching managers from clubs above us though – Dyche, Conte or Wenger? Perhaps only Dyche would consider it.
Kind of demonstrates our challenge – over-pay for mercenaries / retirees or gamble on eager up-and-coming.
23 Posted 23/05/2018 at 10:46:39
24 Posted 23/05/2018 at 10:57:05
25 Posted 23/05/2018 at 11:01:17
None of this 'Hair today, gone tomorrow'.
26 Posted 23/05/2018 at 11:06:53
27 Posted 23/05/2018 at 11:11:19
28 Posted 23/05/2018 at 11:16:12
It is no coincidence that Brands is on board first. His working relationship with the manager will be integral to the success of the club.
The important thing is that Brands can choose who he wants to work with. Silva may be top of the list but, if there is no chemistry between him and Brands or their personalities clash, Brands may walk away from him.
I don't think it is as done a deal as it is made out to be. A lot will depend on how positive the meetings between Silva and Brands are later this week.
I am hoping that they can have mutual respect and understanding of the challenges and have a great working relationship. As it stands, it has the potential to be the best management team to make the club and football team progress.
29 Posted 23/05/2018 at 11:28:23
Brands has built a reputation on the back of some good managers just like Walsh did, Brands has worked with Martin Jol first at RKC Waalwijk, then under Louis Van Gaal at AZ Alkmar. He then moved to PSV first working under Dick Advocat and latterly under Phillip Cocu who has won 3 Erividese Champions.
So, for me, he is a chief scout, just like Walsh but its the manager that is the most important person at the club, not the DOF. Surely if he was that talented he would be the next manager.
They once asked the great golfer, Lee Trevino, why he never asked his caddie what club he should use or to help read putts on the green. His reply was, "If he was that good, he should be on tour instead of me!"
I think that sums up perfectly my thoughts about placing too much emphasis on a DOF. I have never seen it be successful in England and I am yet to be convinced it will ever work.
30 Posted 23/05/2018 at 11:34:02
Long-term this makes good business sense, but in the short-term, will the club be able to make the necessary improvements to the squad to be able to compete at the higher end of the table? Hopefully, the answer will be yes, but it may take a good amount of luck and no little amount of patience from all involved, not least from us as supporters.
31 Posted 23/05/2018 at 11:52:48
If we end up penny-pinching too much, we might as well go back to Kenwright, ha! No doubt the squad is bloated – even Allardyce was banging that drum.
Rooney's sale will save them a few bob. Williams, McCarthy, Besic, Mirallas might not sell for much but it's all wage bills. Bolasie, Stekelenburg even.
32 Posted 23/05/2018 at 12:57:10
All slicked back like that, he reminds me of a Capo in the Tony Soprano crew.
Now as for Antonio Conte's hair, don't get me started. Wow! Just wow!
The question is: cCould him and his locks be tempted to join us? Alas, I think we all know the answer to that.
Unfortunately.
33 Posted 23/05/2018 at 12:57:59
34 Posted 23/05/2018 at 13:11:16
35 Posted 23/05/2018 at 13:21:22
As the kiddas on the street would say -
"Lad, I would take that all day, lad."
All. Day. Lad.
36 Posted 23/05/2018 at 13:32:06
On the highest paid manager in the league, how much is that? Wenger was on 㾸M a year. Pep must be on more. We paid Koeman ٤M a year. Would Moshiri really stretch to more than doubling what we usually pay managers?
Next, what would Conte actually do? How would we achieve our aims? Can he deliver? Would the football be defensive?
His record is mixed. He was sacked from his first job as his side were relegated from the second to the third tier. Then he got Bari promoted to the top flight. Then he flirted with Juve, but instead ended up at Atalanta. He got sacked with them in the bottom 2. Then he brought Siena back to Serie A.
At this point, all he'd done was get a couple of teams promoted and two sides relegated, but yet landed the biggest job in Italy. No doubt that his record as a great player for Juve was a significant factor. Juve were not as they are now, and this was in the process of re-establishing in the top flight after the match-fixing scandal that saw them relegated. They were 7th the year they turned to Conte. They were Champions in his first season. In fact, they won Serie A in each of the three seasons he managed them.
He then took on the Italy job in 2014. He took Italy to the last 8 of the Euros before losing to the Germans on penalties. That wasn't a bad result, particularly in light of what happened next to Italy. We all know he won the Premier League for Chelsea in his first season, but struggled to 5th this season.
No doubt about it, Conte has won a lot. 4 league titles in his last 5 seasons in club football. Lots of success. I should be excited that he'd even talk to us. But I'm not. I have reservations over him. I don't enjoy his football. I hate 3-5-2, I always have. He has spent a lot of money. He is defence first.
Is he really the best man to take Everton to the promised land? Is he worth the money? Yes, I know, I should give myself a slap and say don't be daft he's a proven winner. I just can't shake the feeling that we'd have the Conte of this season and the one who got relegated twice and had Atalanta in the bottom two.
37 Posted 23/05/2018 at 13:33:20
Who says we never learn?
38 Posted 23/05/2018 at 13:36:25
39 Posted 23/05/2018 at 14:55:25
40 Posted 23/05/2018 at 15:19:07
It seems a bit far-fetched to me anyway, but why would we want a manager at Everton who has been relegated in the past?
Only kidding, of course, because I'm a great believer that you learn a lot more in adversity... And is probably the reason why, that I'm hoping for Silva!
41 Posted 23/05/2018 at 16:39:19
The "money no object" mentality seen at the club in the last couple of years looks as if it is to be replaced by an "every penny counts" mentality.
Where are you getting that from? I'm not reading every story on NewsNow like I should be (as 90% are now blatant click-bait), but I don't recall seeing that anywhere? Are you just making it up???
42 Posted 23/05/2018 at 16:51:37
He's not my cup of tea, but we do support Everton so he's about our limit these days given the club's mediocre (at best) standing in the game.
43 Posted 23/05/2018 at 16:51:55
Martinez: who would sign him after taking a club down; (Everton did )
Koeman: one cold fish, who to me anyway did not have a clue, but we signed him.
Who would sign Mr Allardyce after being sacked from his one-match tenure for England, and we all know why that was. Only Everton could do that.
The money totally wasted on last year's atrocious signings... I could go on, but I think you all get the point.
Now,we are looking for a new manager, what do we do? If you believe the rumours, we go for Watford's ex-manager. Come on guys... Watford! If he's not good enough for them then he must be good enough for us, according to the board.
I went to my first Goodson Park game in 1948, age 10, I am now 81 and have seen a lot appertaining to this wonderful club of ours, but in recent times it has saddened me to see the total lack of foresight and lack of ambition.
Surely these clowns in charge can see the downward spiral this club is in? Bally, Labone, Dixie and all the greats (past and present) surely must have a tear in their eye at this very sorry situation.
Thanks for listening to a very angry old man.
44 Posted 23/05/2018 at 17:09:47
I've said previously on other TW threads, I believe, (without proof) and I'm probably miles offside, but the fella must be on a retainer all this he's been in the window since, his sacking by Watford.
If the case, he's had plenty of time to scout, plan and prepare. Is this the additional value for money, and benefit, of this deal, if it comes off?
Whatever happens, let's hope EFC delivers the “real deal†and no more fairy tales.
Hope eternal, let's hope all get behind the new boss, whomever he will be.
Get them in training early, and weekly and daily checks, on the players' fitness and body shape. The last few seasons, in my book, we've looked knackered and laboured, even without the ball.
Happy days, when did we last have some?
45 Posted 23/05/2018 at 17:11:36
With regards to Pellegrini and us not interested, I am not bothered. We desperately need a coach more than anything to get the most out of these clueless players and I'm not sure Pellegrini is like that.
46 Posted 23/05/2018 at 17:33:52
I would like to see huge improvements in fitness next season. Whenever we played the top six last season, it wasn't just that we were playing bad football... every one of those teams were fitter than us.
I want Brands to make sure that doesn't happen on his watch.
47 Posted 23/05/2018 at 17:54:59
48 Posted 23/05/2018 at 18:10:12
The guy I believe we should be having a very serious look at is the former Red Bull Leipzig coach, Ralph Hasenhuttl. He has done great things at Red Bull, his teams play an aggressive pressing style and he's been working successfully with a director of football, Ralf Rangnick, in a model similar to the one that we now have. He's also available having left last week due to an admittedly odd contract dispute.
I don't get the apparent inevitability of Silva, yet this guy is under the radar. I reckon we'd be perfect for each other; he's not an out of reach pipedream, we would be a step up and he's got experience of coaching in the Bundesliga.
Five years ago when we hired Martinez I was banging on about Tuchel when he was at Mainz, so I have a history of not getting what I want. Check him out and get the Hasenhuttl bandwagon rolling!
49 Posted 23/05/2018 at 20:41:06
Brands has come in and that's all well and good, and all I can hope is that he is as underwhelmed as I am with the alleged choice of Silva.
If Brands is as good as is made out, he will know who is available and who would be a great manager for our club... I hope he is bringing fresh blood to the table... the current fare is truly shocking in its absence.
50 Posted 23/05/2018 at 20:51:50
It was a total mess last summer, leaving everything until the last minute, Koeman on holidays and no striker, left-back or centre-back signed by the time the window closed. I know the World Cup is on, but we have to bring players in early.
51 Posted 23/05/2018 at 22:36:27
52 Posted 23/05/2018 at 23:55:44
53 Posted 24/05/2018 at 00:53:58
54 Posted 24/05/2018 at 02:09:16
55 Posted 24/05/2018 at 07:37:37
This is how Everton is perceived as per my list to some extent by anyone applying for the post of Manager.
When Moshiri gave Allardyce a two-year contract, he intended him to stay two years. A payout of millions at the end of the season was not on his agenda. The sole objective was to keep Everton in the Premier League.
It became apparent that the paying customers, the attending fans, while they would continue to support, there was a strong possibility they would withdraw their support next season and influence non-core support, damaging Brand Everton.
But there was still resistance to by Moshiri to change, hence Jim White and his yellow tie apparent support for Allardyce. Though Moshiri was whizzing about the World (according to Big Sam) when he finally got back to Everton he was met by a chorus of complaints from all sides regarding Big Sam. Moshiri thought he was surrounded, he had to act. Fortunately to Club kept in contact with Brands, who had been doing his own research, so he could initiate the sweeping changes immediately. He had no choice.
The same Board that employed Koeman and Allardyce approached Silva and decided he was their man, but where not able to get him, because of resistance from Watford. It is very hit and miss whether the Board could employ the right Manager, because the right Manager is not in place after three tries.
The process of employing a Manager has been going on before Brands was employed one would hope, but has it? The evidence is not there to say it had, we would have a Manager in place like Arsenal or West Ham if it had been by now. Silva is still awaiting an interview. Brands does not officially start till the 1st June, but he will be interviewing Silva on the 25th May, 5 days before he starts. The Board is rightly not confident they can employ the right Manager. Fortunately Brands is well prepared and is hitting the ground running, even starting early.
Pellegrini would have been a better choice than Allardyce last season, because he would have stabilised the Club, more convincing than, Allardyce????and would have set in place the coaching /tactical foundations that Allardyce would never had or could. My only misgiving would be the Brands/Pellegrini relationship.
Everton is a basket case from top to bottom at the moment, they are in a worse state than the end of last season. They are heading into a Summer where Everton needs to know what they are doing. For the first time in 20 years we have Brands in place who is saying Everton need a long-term plan defined by an immediate short-term strategy. We are not being fed "The People's Club" crap and Brands has already started.
Basket-case Everton, because they have a element in Board, backroom staff and squad who shouldn't be there. Allardyce has added to the problem by his work dismantling the Everton Culture. Koeman added to the basket-cases. The performance of Everton this season reflects this. These elements are in panic especially in the backroom and squad, because they know the changes coming are real this time. This will become apparent as the infighting emerges in the media soon, as they try to jockey for position to be best placed to protect their wages, under a new regime.
The task is enormous. While Brands is excellent and very necessary the prudent Manager choice would to bring in a experienced Manager to sort out Basket case Everton for the next two years, Hence my 'Missed Pellegrini again' comment. Silva a great coach, but is a risk, he did buckle at Watford. The Elements need to be sorted, they cannot be instrumental in the fate of the new Manager, as they have been in the fate of the previous three Managers. Hopefully, Brands has the steel he is going to need. If he has I will be the first to contribute to a Steel statue. He is less likely to get ripped off by mercenary types. (㿂 million and counting. . . )
Why is the list of candidates so limited, because all the problems I listed are obvious to suitable professional managers and players, there are easier career choices elsewhere. It's part of their job to know about these things and the financial rewards are high if they get it right. There is a risk to this in joining Everton as some have found out.
And good luck to the former Russia Player of the year, you might get your statue yet,
Following Everton since the 1960s, you pick up a thing are two.
56 Posted 24/05/2018 at 08:42:37
First, he's in dispute with the Watford regime and I'm guessing clubs don't want to get involved in a protracted dispute mid-season.
Second, it's the Premier League rule. Ambitious clubs go for the bright young foreign manager, clubs in trouble go for the old, crusty, solid and stable Brit. Doesn't always work, but that's the pattern.
It's going to be interesting when Sparky, Pardew, Moyes and Big Sam retire, isn't it?
57 Posted 24/05/2018 at 09:38:14
Silva has lost his Watford job in January and his agent hasn't been speaking to other clubs???
58 Posted 24/05/2018 at 19:46:17
We should be talking to the likes of Tedesco and Nagelsmann and, just for the Bundeslegia-themed LOLs, the magnificently named Christian Titz. When it all goes wrong after six months with him, the headlines will write themselves.
59 Posted 24/05/2018 at 20:58:28
Personally, contrary to Jerome's view, I think he was promised the job when Watford sacked him. Bill and Steve Walsh put a spoke in the wheel by appointing Sam and telling Watford we would not be employng Silva.
Moshiri gets pissed with Bill and Walsh because he only ever intended Sam to stay until the end of the season and now we are waiting for Brands to rubberstamp the process.
I would have preferred Emery or Tuchel and would have considered Nagellman or Hassenhutt less of a risk but, with Brands in place and Bill not interfering, we should be able to shake the players out of their slumber and get the additions we so obviously need.
60 Posted 25/05/2018 at 12:28:00
61 Posted 25/05/2018 at 20:37:10
I hope that this is not the case, but I haven't the confidence in Moshiri to say you are wrong. But why put Brands in charge of the process? Maybe Moshiri is back-tracking? I still think Moshiri was going to stick with Big Sam into next season. I'm not convinced that Silva is the man; Arteta being seen around the Club is interesting.
I am so glad that Brands is involved. I think Moshiri was pissed off with Walsh. He was definitely going and Brands made it a condition that Big Sam go before he started. After talking to Brands, Moshiri decided to delegate the search for a new Manager; Silva is not a shoo-in as a result. They are hoping that Brands attracts other candidates.
Before his appointment, there was a lack of interest. The Mercenary types will not apply, they are afraid of being lynched by the Evertonian Mob, and so they should be.
62 Posted 25/05/2018 at 23:28:40
63 Posted 26/05/2018 at 00:28:01
64 Posted 26/05/2018 at 00:57:48
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1 Posted 22/05/2018 at 23:15:46