Gomes back in first-team training

Good news to see him back training albeit nowhere near playing in a competitive match as yet. I was reading Stan Collymore saying he had the sme injury and had a plate fitted in his ankle, and he was back playing 6 weeks after the injury. I am sure Ancelotti cant wait to have him back playing, and he will have Gbamin back in a few weeks.

I'm guessing at beginning of March. Just hope he doesn't rush back and do himself irreperable damage.

Fuck, almost as good looking as me :-)

Three weeks training then he should be making the bench for Arsenal away on February 22nd or Manchester United on March 1st.

I think that’s a pretty fair expectation really isn’t it?

Hopefully he won’t have any setbacks. A lot of times your body can over compensate and mess up other muscles as one part is recovering. But it’s fantastic to see him back. Not so long ago that would have been career ending or even crippling for life. I still cringe when I think about that Spurs game. Horrible, horrible injury for anyone to endure.

Great news!! Rylan will be back just in time for our big push towards a top 4 finish.

Lyndon,
Although he is training with the first team it was my understanding that he wasnt in "full" first team training.

As I understand it he has to go off on personalised training during certain sessions.

Sorry to be pedantic but I don't want us to raise our expectations too much.

If you are right I stand corrected.

He’s not in full training at all. The official site said he’s with the first team in selected sessions. I envisage this to be non-contact stuff. I thought it too early for ball work but the pictures clearly show otherwise.

I would suggest April for a return and if he’s back beforehand then it’s a bonus.

I would really just be happy that the “old” Gomes is fit and ready for pre-season.

Welcome back Andre.

As desperate as we are for numbers in central midfield, let’s think about the bigger picture.

Liverpool 87/No Rush.

Stunned he’s back in training. Stunned! I had an Osteochondral fracture of the ankle back in October, and had major ligament reconstruction last week (I hit a kerb out running) and won’t be running again until July. And this is with private med. Unbelievable job they’ve done with Gomes. Good luck to him.

Nick at 10. Sorry to hear about your injuries mate, really bad luck there, you must have been gutted, I would have been really down about that one. I was out for over eight months last year with Achilles and Calf shit but managed to run (plod!) again in Helsby on January 19th so onwards and upwards for you too hopefully. Sounds nasty what you have been through. All the very best Andre Gomes, I hope you are able to make a full recovery and shine going forward.

Nick@10, best of luck ma8, with your recovery from injury.

Yep this is a miracle for Gomes to be back in training so soon.

Hopefully, hopefully, he will come back the same, and more as a player for EFC.

Thanks lads. When you pick up a serious injury you realise what these pro athletes have to go through - it’s torture. Although they do have round the clock professional care (physios etc). I’m still amazed he’s running. It looked so bad when he did it. Gbamin’s injury must be really serious.

Speedy recovery Nick.

Gbamin's injury is something of a mystery. The club downplayed it. Rumours from an "in the know" type were that his thigh "exploded". The latter would explain why he had surgery before Gomes got injured and he seems to now be behind him in recovery terms despite a horror injury suffered by Gomes. Every injury is different though.

Whilst we’re talking all things Everton, here’s a little clip for you all to enjoy. Shows how consistent we’ve been. Notice the neighbours creeping up the table. Also highlights how incredibly lucky they have been with timing - like this season - considering how close we still are and Arsenal are yet don’t have their European “rep” which the media created.
https://youtu.be/qtqOgpNqXBI

Would be great if we could get a decent look at how Gomes and Gbamin pair in midfield together before the end of the season.

Nick #10 and Graham #11, my sympathies. I did my Achilles last June with a slide tackle (age 63 tackling a 19-year-old, how stupid is that??!), and I'm still in the boot so not likely to play this season either. Arggh.

Steve #14, Gbamin would have been better off if he'd broken the leg. A major connective tissue injury like a ruptured quadriceps tendon takes much longer to heal than a bone, and full recovery generally takes a full year. NBA star Victor Oladipo returns to the court tomorrow night for the first time, exactly 53 weeks after incurring the same injury. And he will play only a few minutes a game for a while. I would be absolutely shocked if we see Gbamin this season.

Furthermore, full recovery is not assured. Another NBA superstar, Tony Parker, returned seven months after his ruptured quad, but he was never quite the same and retired last June.

Mike#17.
Steve #14, Gbamin would have been better off if he'd broken the leg.
That's exactly what the consultant said when it happened to me although I had some strands still attached and avoided surgery.
I was off work for six months and it's never "quite" been the same.
If Gbamin's needed surgery then it's obviously been even worse.
He has age on his side and the fact that he's an extremely fit athlete but there's no guarantee with a quad rupture, which I think is what he's had.
Fingers crossed for him and us!

Nick, thanks for that, I have shared it with my 6-a-side group, lots of the under 30's have no idea of pre-prem days.

Brian, did you do that on the pitch, mate? I've heard the rumours of your savage tackling.

Mike @20,it’s not his savage tackling,it’s his savage tackle you’ve heard about!
I wouldn’t play either of them again this season maybe some cameos from the bench,get them both fit and ready for next season

I did mate. It was the last time I played competitively.

Peter. Shhhhhh, thats a secret. 🤪

Jay (7), you are correct. I meant to reinforce the fact that he was back training with the first-team (i.e. not solely on an individual regimen anymore) and not infer that he was taking part in full contact sessions as it is obviously too soon for that. The term "full" was obviously incorrect and I've amended the article accordingly.

Well, Brian, at least you went out on your shield, my friend.

Gbamin definitely had surgery. So, it's bad news to hear about the NBA stars who never recovered. What were their ages? Gbamin is only 24, so would that make a difference? One problem I see is a lot of Gbamin's game is based on his pace. If he loses that pace, he would not be the same player. Imagine Gueye if he was slow, he'd not be the same player either.

Mike at 17. Way to go! Someone has to lead by example and show the Everton Midfield 'stars' it is actually ok to actually put a tackle in every now and then. Make sure you get the 20-year-old when you are 64 and hopefully fully recovered. Age is just a number (as long as you don't look in the mirror!) as Gareth Barry showed for us only quite recently. Get well soon mate, you have a lot on your plate right now.

Steve #25, of course age always matters. Oladipo was 26 and at the absolute peak of his powers when injured a year ago. Parker was 37 and on the downside anyway. So at 24 youth is definitely on Gbamin's side.

Mike -I remember you telling us about the NBA stars at the time of the injury. It sounds like a long road back for the young fellow.
Hasn't ToffeeWeb got some bad injuries...some would say it is us who are cursed- not the club!

Eddie, look at it this way, we battling TWers never want to give up the game! Old farts still trundling around the pitch. And the injuries are just our way of bragging about it.

It's all about perspective. Brian and I have both been through lots worse.

Did my ankle at 18 Mike. I couldn't play at all by 26, not even 5-a-side.

That's too young, Steve. A promising career blighted. But obviously law school was an excellent second choice.

Nothing promising about my career Mike! I can assure you, although I did play in the Cheshire Cup final in 2002. I just had a lot of heart and good engine, which I can still put to good use when out cycling instead. Much easier sport on the ankles, especially with clip-in pedals.

I remember reading about that game, Steve! I believe the Express gave you a 6 out of 10 for a fine effort in a losing cause.

Don't want to dampen the mood, but, as I've said on an earlier thread: I suffered the same injury as Gomes, playing in a student footy match [bizarrely, against a team of doctors!]. I still have some pain and discomfort in the ankle, which occasionally 'gives way'.
When did I suffer this injury? .... 40 years ago!!

Mike we won 2-1. I got the second in the dying minutes as I raced forward (I played left back) with the score at 1-0 to us, to loads of shouts of abuse from my teammates for vacating my position. Our only forward player (and only decent player) had taken the ball form a cleared corner and was tackled, the ball was cleared to me. I was knackered and took about two touches and leathered it and it went in. I aimed for the other side of the goal, but I'll take it. You'll note I said we won 2-1 and it was now 2-0. Well I did a full Klinsmann dive (never done one before or since) in front of the 100+ mates and family we had coached over from college, and was winded! So straight from the re-start the right winger skinned me, sent in a cross and they scored so it was 2-1 and my goal was cancelled out! I still claim it as the winner!

Steve, thanks for correcting my memory. It was 8 out of 10 in the Express.

Still got the winner's medal? What a moment to savor.

I never had a moment like that, although I did play some semipro (Jim Standen, former Hammer, was a teammate). But I played for a Cup so obscure I don't remember what it was called -- over-30 league in New England. In the second half the heat got to me and I puked in front of 2000 laughing fans, most embarrassing moment I've ever had in a game. But I scored twice late to win it... swerved a corner directly into the top corner, then a header at the near post.

Does the pace of the game today make injuries worse? Back in the day, a player broke his leg, needed a cartilage op( bad one, that) done his collar bone( usually self inflicted) or had a "strain".
I think hamstrings only got discovered in the early nineties. Players managed perfectly well without them back in the day. When is the last time you saw a player finish a game with his arm in a sling? Or on crutches for that matter. Softies the lot of them.

No Mike, I won't say what happened that night but it involved copious amounts of alcohol and I didn't make it home before most people were having their lunch.

Unbelievable to see Gomes back training so soon, credit to him, and the medical team. Gbamin back training as well, so be great to see them playing together, and blossoming, in the not too distant future, especially as they were the first choice pairing in the summer.

Andy, don't you remember our own Tricky Trevor getting quite a few hamstring injuries in the 80's?

Having done some research into the exact type of injury sustained by Gomes and taking into account that he's a professional athlete, I predicted in the days after the Spurs game, that he should be back in first team contention towards the end of February.

At the moment it looks like he's roughly on course for that. Let's hope there are no setbacks along the way or that he's rushed back too soon.

Fantastic news, Both Andre and the medical team have worked wonders. Don't take any chances and rush back, come back strong.

At last, things are looking up, Gomes back in training & slippy Gerrard’s Scottish title hopes suffer a major blow against the bottom team. 😂😂😂

Comparing notes - played 11 aside twice a week at decent levels in Liverpool, Wirral when16-40yr old, lots of cuts, minor knocks, slight muscle tears, then moved 300 miles south and took up 5 a side, then ankle ligaments, 3 times, knee cartilage op, torn calf, torn hamstring, and finally a seized 4/5th back vertebrae retired me at 64 (by then in over 50's league). Took up walking football last year, lasted 2 months and packed it in, boring as hell, but.

During my 20's one of our lads had serious quadriceps tear and never came back, got walking, running but couldn't kick the ball with any power, felt it every time he tried kicking it

Ankle injuries are never fully resolved, the weakness will always be there in the background. I base this on a workmate who turned his ankle, just a wee tweak. That wee tweak still sees him limping to this day and this guy is no snowflake.

Talking of football injuries, I tore my cruciate knee ligaments in my mid twenties. Never really played again other than in goal. 30 years later it’s really giving me problems and been told I need to have surgery to sort the joint out (now got acute arthritis).

For Gomes to be anywhere near a football so soon after such a horrific injury is remarkable. As others have said, would rather he took his time so we have ready for pre-season.

I don’t think this is necessarily miraculous or remarkable. Dislocated ankles can actually look worse than they turn out to be. I know because I had one over 35 years ago. It looked looked extremely bad with my foot shunted approximately 4 inches over from the bottom of my shin and hanging at a weird angle.
It all depends on how much damage is done to the ligaments and cartilage; if they are not too bad and the ankle goes back in place neatly then recovery can be about the same as for a clean break.
I had a busted fibula as well and everything was reset under general anaesthetic. I was fortunate because the surgeon didn’t have to put in any pins as he had thought he might need to. Full leg cast on for 10 weeks and when they cut that off I wasn’t even offered a stick to replace the antwacky crutches I’d been using up until then.
I wasn’t a superstar sportsman so had no special attention but was still able to start running on it about 16 weeks after the original injury. With the improvements in medicine and the specialists Andre will have access to I’m not hugely surprised at 12 weeks for him as long as the initial surgery was successful for him.
Recovery from sports injuries has improved massively in the last 30 years.

Any tips on how to recover from a vicious paper cut I suffered in the office this morning?

Amputation David, sorry.

Very pleased for him.

Great news.

Hopefully he will be back soon but not before he is 100% fit and ready. If anything I would leave him until the Summer if he is not needed. Too many players with ''bad'' injuries are rushed back and are not ''mentally'' ready.

I still feel bitter and angry towards Son, for his assault and the crocodile tears and the public cry of support for pure old innocent Son. He's not that type of player remember.

Anyway enough of my bitterness, great news on Gomes.

I need him back for next season my Mrs is a lot more agreeable to me watching the football on the telly when he's playing. She seems to take an interest …...well in a certain player anyway.

Muscle injuries are a nightmare. Achilles (from footy of course m) for me (both). Can be fine but then flare up. Problem as someone mentioned is other muscles over compensate and can get other issues. Getting older and fatter doesn’t assist either.

Daniel @ 53 -

My bitterness towards Son will never, ever die. Premeditated, chased him down seeing red.

Some time in the future, I don't know when or how, cosmic juju will rear it's ugly head at Mr. Son.

It's a minor miracle Gomes is not only walking and running, but back in training at the highest level of professional football in the world. Unbelievable.

Yes, Jamie. Pity Peter Reid won't be playing in our next game against Spurs. You know what he'd do .

Jamie 55

With you. And the “nice guy” stuff? He has 3 red cards (one rescinded) in the past two seasons. All for retaliation

He’s a shit head

Is this rumour about us rejecting an £85m bid from Barca for Richy true? Anyone heard it?

Ignore that.
Question answered about half an hour later by Lyndon's piece!

its no coincidence that our form has nosedived since his injury hugely missed welcome back

Here is an article describing what Gbamin has had https://www.verywellhealth.com/torn-quadriceps-tendon-2548652

Bit of encouragement re Gbamin... NBA star Victor Oladipo played his first game back last night after a 53-week absence with the same injury, and he was spectacular. So full recovery is obviously possible.

I just watched him in this clip back in training. It speaks for itself. The medical staff have done an amazing job.

Link

He will make a huge difference when he is back in the side. Very good news.

I had the exact same injury about 40 years ago, and it took me 18 months to get back playing. It shows you how far medical teams have moved on since then.

I still have problems now with the ankle, maybe I need to stop playing, I am 65 now!!!!

Just kidding — stopped playing when I got married, women will never understand.

Wasn't sure where to put this, but if anyone's not seen this, Andre is a gem of a guy by all indications.

Link

Jamie,

Powerful stuff that link. Brought a tear of joy to my eyes.