Where are the Sky 6 today?

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Well, they are not in the top 3 after 5 games!

Now I know all the sayings – take one game at a time; it’s a marathon, not a sprint... but today they are nowhere to be seen!

After the end of this weekend’s games, they are 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 10th and 14th. If it hadn’t been for Barkley’s late winner, we would have been 3 points clear.

All us Evertonians are too long in the tooth to get too excited as we have grown up with hope being quickly replaced with despair. I have always wondered how much luck plays in winning. Some might call it skill. If you put the ball in the right place more times than not, you increase your chances of being lucky.

We have had some poor managers who have never been lucky. Now, we have a real manager and things have been going our way. This weekend, we have had the rub of the green with VAR when, last season, we couldn’t buy a favourable result. Also, I think other results have gone our way. For example, Spurs coasting 3-0 and drawing 3-3 with West Ham.

Many refuse to look too far in the future but, if we are still top after the next 3 matches, even without Richarlison and maybe Pickford if the RS media have him hung, drawn and quartered, how will we feel?

More to the point, how will Sky deal with their darling Sky 6? Will they get their own back and make all our matches pay-per-view!

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Darren Hind
1 Posted 19/10/2020 at 06:59:07
Interesting post... And one which would be very interesting if the situation remained the same going into the New Year.

But if the Premier League title race was a steeplechase, we'd have only just gotten over the first fence.

I'll keep an eye on these 6, but I will be very surprised if at least 5 of them don't end up in the top 7. Deep pockets generally means deep squads and deep squads usually find their way to the top.

Barry Rathbone
2 Posted 19/10/2020 at 07:26:05
Always the same elite group... plus one surprise team to fill the top slots at seasons end – it will be the same this season. The Premier League is a monumental bore.
Rob Halligan
3 Posted 19/10/2020 at 10:15:36
David, don't worry, it will now be the top 14, then the top 10, top 8, until the so-called big 6 teams take their rightful positions in the top 6. The way Sky, BT, the BBC and whoever drool over these teams makes me want to vomit. Two of their darlings, Chelsea and Spurs, throwing away healthy leads to teams at the moment I would hope we could beat.

Sorry, did I say Spurs are a top-six club... don't make me laugh!

Robert Tressell
4 Posted 19/10/2020 at 10:30:49
The long season will probably see the league table revert broadly to type. But a few things:

1. Without the crowds, the underdogs seem to be playing with a bit less fear. That applies both home and away.

2. The refs too are under less pressure to display bias. VAR is flawed but may also be a leveller.

3. Who are the genuine stars in this league that are above all others? They seem to be spread out across 6 clubs rather than concentrated in 2, 3 or 4.

4. Solskjaer, Lampard and Arteta are not yet elite managers and may never make it. Mourinho is well past his brilliant best. Guardiola's brilliant side seems to be deteriorating. Klopp's brilliant side is (hopefully) looking a bit less invincible.

So, there is room for hope of a shake-up.

Kevin Prytherch
5 Posted 19/10/2020 at 10:43:05
Our next 7 games are winnable. Our next match that I genuinely don’t think we have the better chance of winning is away to Leicester in December. Home games to Chelsea and Utd will be close, but winnable, similar to the away match at Southampton.

If we do well in these next 7 games, all coming whilst the so called big six have midweek European games to compete with, then we will be in a very good position and could have a big cushion on some of the so called big six.

For now though, 27 points from safety with 33 games left!!!!

Tony Everan
6 Posted 19/10/2020 at 10:44:23
It’s a long hard season David, and as Darren #1 says the bigger quality squads can maintain consistency easier.

Chelsea, RS, Man City, Arsenal, Tottenham, Man Utd and Everton will fight for the top 7 spots. After this season he Sky6 moniker will become outdated, we will see to that.

Injuries can shake it all up because I don’t think there’s going to be that many points separating all seven clubs.
With the players and manager we have got we can get a result against anyone in the league. We should aim to win it.

David Cooper
7 Posted 19/10/2020 at 15:06:41
It is quite unbelievable the concern that has been shown for VVD and the criticism of JP. Almost every commentator has been worried about what the friggin hell the RS are going to do without him. The only one who I have heard who has not convicted him is Andy Gray and Carragher who talks about the fierceness of the derby and how in previous derbies we have been on the receiving end of some decisions. I loved listening to Souness who kicked more players than I can remember bleating and pleading for retrospective action!
The RS set out to kick James out of the game and for once got some of their own medicine!
Fran Mitchell
8 Posted 19/10/2020 at 15:18:17
The start of Champions League could well make its impact. The likes of Liverpool and City will, unfortunately but most probably, be top 2 while Spurs seem to have a very eager Mourinho in charge and an excellent forward line.

Chelsea's backline, or more tellingly, Lampard's lack of tactical nouse and inability to set a defense will hurt them. Man Utd have an awful manager, but their team has more talent than any outside the top 2. If Pochettino goes to either of them before Christmas then they'll be up there.

Arsenal look good, but think the media are over-rating them and Arteta. But top-4 is possible.

December will be a big month for us, lots of big games. Despite our great start, a top 6 finish would still be a huge a achievement. Top 4 is possible, but will be difficult.

Other the outside contenders, Leicester lack a goalscoring threat without Vardy. Villa will probably fall away, but their first team is impressive but I imagine goals will be difficult to come by as the season wears on. Wolves, imo, are just a bit over-rated. Leeds will entertain but be around 10th.

So, come season's end, I expect a top 6 probably with 5 of the regulars.

Daniel A Johnson
9 Posted 19/10/2020 at 15:19:01
With regards to high scoring matches what do people think is driving this?

Is it teams giving up without the crowd on their backs?

Is it lack of fear at away matches?

Are players more likely to take a risk without mistimed passes being jumped on by the crowd?

Or something else?

Fran Mitchell
10 Posted 19/10/2020 at 15:44:01
Daniel, I think it is more to do with a lack of time on the training ground. The defenses are disorganized and out of position.

There may be the impact of away clubs being more gong-ho and confident without the fans, but I think the main issue is a lack of pre-season followed by a hectic start seeing a glut of game meaning little work on the basics.

Daniel A Johnson
11 Posted 19/10/2020 at 15:45:26
I've also heard this Fran but season after season of being drilled in training I'm not buying everyone has suddenly forgotten how to defend because the season started early
John Raftery
12 Posted 19/10/2020 at 15:48:49
I think we will continue to see a lot of surprises and points dropped by the big clubs. European and international games will put an extra strain on their squads, more so in this truncated season. It might well be that the league will be won by the lowest points total since its inception in 1992. The lowest tally so far recorded by the title winners was the 75 points won by Manchester United in 1996/97.
Kieran Kinsella
13 Posted 19/10/2020 at 15:54:40
Fran

I don't buy the preseason theory. Liverpool for example amassed almost 200 points over the past two seasons with virtually the same defence (minus the goalie) that let in seven at Villa. I don't see a couple of weeks of extra pre-season friendlies in Bangkok being the difference between last year and this. I think like Robert the crowds are a factor. But also, if you look at City, their spine was Kompany, Silva and Aguero for years. The haven't adequately replaced two of them and the third is a bit part player now. Liverpool according to Steve Ferns are off cycle with their Kool aid. Neither Lampard not Solskjaer have proven adept at producing consistent teams as yet. Arteta is new to role, Jose is newish to his club and transitioning from all out attacked to dire football so obviously there are teething problems. In a nutshell it's a transitional season for the "big six" just as it was the year Leicester won.

David Pearl
14 Posted 19/10/2020 at 16:12:49
We will be up in the top positions all season. We have for once bought established players to make a difference right now. Unlike Chelsea who's new boys are boys. We also don't have 2 games a week for the next while... the rs and city etc do!
John Raftery
15 Posted 19/10/2020 at 16:16:59
Kieran (13) I agree the lack of pre-season friendlies is not an issue. The issue is the reduced time for conditioning work with players. Pre-season normally takes the form of five to six weeks of two or three training sessions per day as well as the friendly games. It is that conditioning work which builds the players up for a ten month schedule. Without that preparation we will probably see an increase in players suffering hamstring and calf strains. Indeed we are already seeing it especially among the players aged over thirty; in our case Seamus, in Leicester’s Vardy.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

16 Posted 19/10/2020 at 16:45:08
I said before the season KO that the pandemic and its impact on the usual chronology of the football season will impair the usual suspects domination of the league.

Three of them - the two Manc clubs and Chelsea (as well as Wolves) - as well as finishing off the butt end of the previous domestic season were also still playing European games in August.

A consequence of this is a much fore-shortened pre-season (which IS important), reflected in their very mixed results since returning this season.

The European games start up again this week. The 'top six' will be playing twice a week up to the New Year at least. There will be no let up for them, presuming they continue to progress in their European competitions and have to go again in the New Year.

Hell, Spurs have already had 2 weeks of playing THREE games a week! That has a detrimental accumulative effect on players and the team over a season.

IF there is no new suspension of domestic and European games (and currently there are no guarantees of that), this compacted season will take a heavy toil on the most 'involved' teams. The program has to be completed on time due to the need to release players for next summer's international competitions, the delayed Euros and the Copa America, not even mentioning the Olympics.

To me, this represents an opportunity for a number of apple carts to be upset domestically this season.

I would also add the phenomena of high-scoring games appears to be a strictly English one. You are not seeing the same high ratio of whacky scorelines in other major leagues. Indeed, on start-up to conclude last season what was more common were 0-0 draws and low scoring games under the same conditions as now.

I personally believe that managers and teams are employing different tactics against the powerhouse teams. Rather than sitting back and nicking one, they are getting on the front foot and exposing defensive frailties more.

The loveable 'bours and their indignation has deflected completely a simple observation I would also make about Saturday's Derby:

Klopp described his team's performance as their best away game at Everton on his watch. Unlike previous fixtures against the Blues, he went with the very best starting XI he could. Only the injured Allison was missing.

Yes, they bossed the 1st half, but I genuinely believe we were vastly improved after the interval and that Salah's goal was very much against the run of play.

For us, Mina, Gomes, Allan, Doucoure, Richarlison and James were not 'on' their game as much as they have been this season, certainly not as much 'on' as Liverpool on the day. That's half our team.

And yet, they could only draw.

You might ask them 'is that that all you've got..?'

Jay Harris
17 Posted 19/10/2020 at 16:54:26
It looks like the teams with strong MF and goalscorers are doing well.

As someone said City without Silva, De Bruyne and Aguerro are looking average.

Chelsea have a very strong squad but a manager who doesnt know how to set them up to defend.

Arsenal still have some issues but do look harder to beat.

Man U have a bunch of big heads in the dressing room so will be up and down depending on the moodiness of some of the players.

Spurs are starting to look very strong with their new aquisitions but still have that chink in their armour and if Song or Kane have a spell out that will hurt them.

Villa are looking very solid this term and could well spring a surprise.

When we get Brandthwaite and Holgate back we will look a lot stronger but for right now the attitude in the camp is good and we refuse to be beaten.

It is a marathon not a sprint but for the clubs with Europe to contend with it is even more of a Marathon so hope springs eternal.

Every club will have a bad patch us included but it will be important for our supporters to retain the faith and belief in the manager and the squad and give them our full support including Jordan Pickford who is getting it from all sides at the moment.

Jay Harris
18 Posted 19/10/2020 at 16:54:26
It looks like the teams with strong MF and goalscorers are doing well.

As someone said City without Silva, De Bruyne and Aguerro are looking average.

Chelsea have a very strong squad but a manager who doesnt know how to set them up to defend.

Arsenal still have some issues but do look harder to beat.

Man U have a bunch of big heads in the dressing room so will be up and down depending on the moodiness of some of the players.

Spurs are starting to look very strong with their new aquisitions but still have that chink in their armour and if Song or Kane have a spell out that will hurt them.

Villa are looking very solid this term and could well spring a surprise.

When we get Brandthwaite and Holgate back we will look a lot stronger but for right now the attitude in the camp is good and we refuse to be beaten.

It is a marathon not a sprint but for the clubs with Europe to contend with it is even more of a Marathon so hope springs eternal.

Every club will have a bad patch us included but it will be important for our supporters to retain the faith and belief in the manager and the squad and give them our full support including Jordan Pickford who is getting it from all sides at the moment.

Tony Abrahams
19 Posted 19/10/2020 at 16:59:44
I was very surprised when Oliver added 5 minutes on Saturday, because I never thought there was any stoppages in the second half?

I said the other week, I’d love to see the statistics of how long the ball is actually in play now without the crowd, because with balls littered all around the pitch, it definitely feels to me, like we are getting a lot less time wasted, so I’d love to see the time differences, with and without the crowd?

Brian Harrison
20 Posted 19/10/2020 at 17:00:15
I think its far to early to make any forecasts as to where teams will finish up at the end of the season. We have started well but thats all it is, and I think after we have played 10 games will be a better indicator as to our finishing position.

Injuries will impact most clubs but some teams would find it hard to compete if they get injuries in certain positions, whereas the monied clubs usually have plenty of cover in all areas. Because of his sending off on Saturday we miss Richarlison for 3 games, could you imagine if DCL picked up an injury in our next game who would score the goals for us with those 2 missing. So a little bit of luck with injuries can be key for many sides, so predicting where we will finish in 6 months time is impossible to predict.

So lets enjoy the start and hope our key players can stay injury free, and we carry on with our current form, for many months to come.

Brent Stephens
21 Posted 19/10/2020 at 17:19:54
Tony there were 4 substitutions, plus the incident involving the red card.
Eddie Dunn
22 Posted 19/10/2020 at 17:57:48
I think it is clearly that the players feel less pressure without the fans there. They try more tricks, they also down tools more readliy without fans giving them the bird.
The lack of intimidation toward away players and refs also make for away teams being more confident and refs being less intimidated by the usual suspects.
Paul Hewitt
23 Posted 19/10/2020 at 18:10:22
If any team is going to break into the top 6 this season. It will be Villa.
Brian Williams
24 Posted 19/10/2020 at 18:16:12
Come on Paul Villa haven't played anyone decent yet! 😉
Paul Ferry
25 Posted 19/10/2020 at 18:54:42
Villa!

Grealish is top six; Villa are most definitely not. I'm very glad for Ross for his new lease of life and he is looking a little like the player we should never have allowed the out-of-work-next-May Dutchman to have undermined.

Villa will finish in the bottom half of the table but comfortable this season unlike last. We have ten times the chance of finishing in the top six than Birmingham's finest.

The 'expert' brigade have been asking for at least two seasons now, what will happen to them if he gets a long-term injury?

Well, it has happened, and a so far shaky defence with him has all the appearance of a major problem without him for possibly the rest of the season.

That said, they will not win the league and - admittedly after a mere five games - the league is looking wide open and ripe for a 'Leicester invasion'.

This has been a 'fanless' up-and-down season so far with goals galore.

Three of the top six have porous defences (them, Chelsea, and Ole's lot); one more (City) do not know what their best defence is; while the two from North London would appear at this point in time to be a little more solid.

It is risky to make anything in the way of predictions with the season in its immature infancy, but we ought to be allowed the luxury of our hunches.

Spurs will finish in the top three.

We will finish somewhere from fourth to seventh.

They will be one or two places ahead of us (they will also get another crisis injury to make up for the absence of them in recent seasons)

Villa will finish thirteenth-ish.

Man. City will end up in the top two.

Leeds will finish in the top eight.

The bottom of the table looks more predictable at the moment.

Keith Dempsey
26 Posted 19/10/2020 at 19:41:28
Dave@7 strange how a few seasons ago when Mane nearly took the City goalkeeper face off with his boot the same pundits who want Pickfords charged with assault were queuing to defend Mane as being unlucky to go off, strange that. No doubt Sky will offer VVD a job as a pundit til he is fit to play.
Dick Fearon
27 Posted 22/10/2020 at 14:28:27
The group of lickspittle apologetic Blues who are throwing their anti Pickford gripes onto the RS generated Bonfire should take a good look at themselves.
Jordan nor Virgil would pull out of the challenge and a collision was inevitable.

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