Graham Potter and Christophe Galtier are the next names to be mentioned in connection with the vacant manager's post at Everton.
The links to the current Brighton boss and recent French league title winner come as The Telegraph report that Nuno Espirito Santo is getting close to being appointed as the new Crystal Palace manager.
Espirito Santo was said, by the media at least, to be the front-runner for the Blues' job but the Portuguese had already had advanced talks with Steve Parish at Selhurst Park.
Potter is a on a lengthy contract on the south coast but has gained plaudits for his commitment to passing and possession football.
According to The Argus, there has been no formal approach made to the Seagulls from Everton with regard to Potter but that has not stopped the speculation which will only increase if Nuno is confirmed as Roy Hodgson's successor at Palace.
Galtier, meanwhile, has been tipped for the head coach role at Nice having made a verbal agreement with them but he is being talked about as a contender for a job in the Premier League based on the excellent job he has just done at Lille, guiding them to the Ligue 1 championship ahead of big-spending Paris Saint-Germain.
Former Lille sporting director, Luis Campos, believes that Galtier would be the perfect fit for Everton.
"Christophe has all the qualities to coach in England, technically he is very astute and is extremely detailed in his planning when preparing a team," Campos told Sky Sports News.
"He likes a 4-4-2 system, which would fit with the Premier League and he is a fantastic motivator in the dressing room.
"He likes to build a side with quality and youth, he is someone that can develop a team ethic, and he is also a fantastic human being."
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1 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:00:59
2 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:11:44
3 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:17:18
The fact we let Carlo sign a contract that had a "Get Out of Goodison Free" card is beyond me. Oh hang on... it must be Bill's fault! Silly me.
4 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:17:23
5 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:17:45
6 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:20:53
7 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:22:24
Hah, OK. Just so I know how we're painting these guys with ridiculously broad brushes
8 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:22:47
Brighton & Hove Albion have extended the contract of head coach Graham Potter to 2025, after his impressive start in the role.
9 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:25:27
He joined St Etienne in 2009, who were in danger of being relegated, but Galtier managed to keep them up. The following 4 years, they qualified for Europe.
In 2017, he joined Lille, who were in 18th place when he took over, and they avoided relegation by 1 point. Then, in 2019, they finished 2nd to PSG and this season, they have finished as Champions. So he has proved that he can vastly improve a team not once but twice and has also proved he can produce a team to beat PSG with all their great players to the title.
So, for me at least, he ticks some of the boxes that Nuno or Potter or Howe tick; the downside is he hasn't managed in the Premier League, but neither had Wenger. So maybe we are at long last starting to at least look in the direction of managers who can build a side and win titles.
10 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:26:23
My point being, four of the five “French” managers mentioned have been crap.
11 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:27:59
Transfer deadline day, we sign Phil Jones and Maitland-Niles for £100M combined, having failed with an audacious bid for Grealish, who we will have been chasing all summer with our new manager, Fabio Capello, with Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin going onwards.
12 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:29:44
13 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:33:08
We need a German Shepherd to bring back the 'dogs of war' spirit.
14 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:36:10
15 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:37:01
16 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:39:54
I would prefer conclusions as to the professional competency of the poor chap based more on an empirical analysis of his record.
17 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:45:14
Yes apart from Wenger the French coaches who have managed in the premier league haven't been very successful, but to write of a whole nations coaches because some havent worked out seems a tad harsh. I mean I wouldn't say no to Zidane and that Didier Deschamps did ok winning the World Cup and could easily win this years Euros.
18 Posted 08/06/2021 at 19:48:27
My son is big on this one but I don't know enough about him and don't watch French football enough so would appreciate others' views.
Going to be another long night for the dogs.
19 Posted 08/06/2021 at 20:08:42
If we get him, let's hope he can shoot from the hip.
20 Posted 08/06/2021 at 20:17:21
Fits in with our model as he is a motivator and a coach and will rely on Brands bringing in raw talent.
21 Posted 08/06/2021 at 20:21:28
22 Posted 08/06/2021 at 20:21:57
23 Posted 08/06/2021 at 20:28:06
24 Posted 08/06/2021 at 20:29:57
25 Posted 08/06/2021 at 20:42:14
They say Lille knew about Galtiers wish to leave the club for a while, and had a gentlemens agreement not to make it public. Now, however, theyre playing hard to let the champion leave them.
The manager has one year left on his contract with Lille, and according to Le10Sport, hes engaged in talks with Nice for a three-year deal. However, Lille are demanding between €8m and €10m to release him.
They say Lille knew about Galtiers wish to leave the club for a while, and had a gentlemens agreement not to make it public. Now, however, theyre playing hard to let the champion leave them.
26 Posted 08/06/2021 at 20:43:35
27 Posted 08/06/2021 at 21:02:19
28 Posted 08/06/2021 at 21:03:29
Sean, it has to be hobnobs. If only the choice of manager was that easy.
29 Posted 08/06/2021 at 21:24:09
30 Posted 08/06/2021 at 21:35:43
31 Posted 08/06/2021 at 21:36:25
32 Posted 08/06/2021 at 21:41:42
So, no Ferguson because of Walter Smith, no Potter because of Kendall mk3.?
Painted into a corner methinks.
33 Posted 08/06/2021 at 21:45:45
34 Posted 08/06/2021 at 21:54:05
However, it is encouraging, as far as I am concerend that this process is taking longer than we hoped.
Let's be honest, at the start of this week, when we first learned that Ancelotti had left us, high and dry, with Nuno being available, and apparently having been interviewed, many of us would have said "yes" a ready made replacement.
However, for one, the board do not appear to be taking the 'knee jerk" course and are actually trying to find the right fit for the clubs ambitions.
Hopefully, they get it righrt and we can sart to aim in the right direction in the league table, as well as in the City of Liverpool.
35 Posted 08/06/2021 at 21:55:53
Benjamin # 21, I am sure he do speak Portuguese as Portuguese people are the largest foreign nationals in France lol. But seriously, the languages are very similar I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong.
36 Posted 08/06/2021 at 21:59:08
I see the "the world's greatest Evertonian"has been ranting on Twitter having a go at both Brands and Moshiri,but strangely not a savage world about our beloved Chairman (how strange!),it would seem that Mike "Porky" Parry wants Dyche in the hot seat...sigh.
"Winning isn't everything,wanting to win everything is"...sublime!.
37 Posted 08/06/2021 at 22:11:57
38 Posted 08/06/2021 at 22:28:05
39 Posted 08/06/2021 at 22:32:12
Houllier and Wenger didn't fair too badly. Built their respective clubs back up and won trophies along the way.
French, German or Scouse, I really don't care. Just get the appointment right and be ambitious.
40 Posted 08/06/2021 at 22:43:54
He's good at bringing young talent through and plays 2 up front? That's an improvement on Carlo's bore fest.
Allez les Bleus!
41 Posted 08/06/2021 at 23:23:55
Ive lost complete faith in Everton and Im actually gutted about it. Its the first time ever in my life I can honestly say that I think the whole club is a joke. We are destined to forever be in our neighbours shadow and the laughing stock of the city. The only good thing about last season was beating them away and watching James play in an Everton shirt. Apart from that it feels like a season wasted.
I dont even care who we hire now. Im not defending an Everton manager ever again, as they seem to do well in their first season, not as good second season, then they get sacked. Seriously whats the point. Hire someone whos managing in the conference and see what they can do. All these names;
Honestly, Im fed up hearing about them. To me none of them are up for the challenge. To get the best out of our poor squad and sign good, hard working replacements on a lot less money than Bolasie, Walcott, Tosun etc.
Honestly dont even know what to think anymore. Its a poorly run, poorly managed and fans are continually poorly let down.
42 Posted 08/06/2021 at 23:24:11
43 Posted 08/06/2021 at 23:24:41
Though I believe Nuno can continue the work with the current team having South American connection.
44 Posted 08/06/2021 at 00:04:42
The next day Evertontv will have an hour long interview with Dunc about how all his dreams have come true, and he's still pinching himself, and how he'd like to thank everyone for the faith shown in him, especially Mr Moshiri and the Chairman.
45 Posted 09/06/2021 at 00:30:35
Oh, and his xG and xGA stats for Brighton were phenomenal, if you're into that sort of thing.
46 Posted 09/06/2021 at 05:36:58
I must admit I had never considered Galtier as a possible candidate as with Marcelo Gallardo, but the more I have read about both, they would equally and potentially be able to deliver what we want.
They are both driven, focused, and seem to be able to not only get a tune out of the players under their tutelage, but also get the results to go with it. As many have said Potter is likely to stay at Brighton and Compensation could be involved. We have had enough compo cases to last a lifetime.
47 Posted 09/06/2021 at 07:03:06
48 Posted 09/06/2021 at 07:27:22
That is all well and good but Potter has had 2 years to find a goalscorer and he came up with 20m on Maupay and a Welbeck free transfer. Perhaps Brands is thinking he will find the players and Potter can just coach them.
49 Posted 09/06/2021 at 07:27:26
Moyes - fuck him, Benitez- red c**t, Potter - will he be strong enough, Galtier - why does he want to leave the Champions? At least Palace have took away Nuno! but whoever is still standing, once the dominoes begin to rapidly fall, has got to be a strong man imo, because the frustrations of many are really simmering, and this means the Everton hot seat will be roasting hot, and could possibly melt away most men?
50 Posted 09/06/2021 at 07:31:09
Like most, stopped caring. Having just discovered the no-compo clause in our previous manager's contract, all I can say is "Everton, that".
51 Posted 09/06/2021 at 07:33:57
52 Posted 09/06/2021 at 07:38:24
Thanks Tony and Kevin, you've just sent me back into anxiety mode!!
Tongue in cheek aside, the silence is kind of reassuring me that the club are actually out there negotiating rather than defaulting to the easy option. That would be done now if it was the preference. Like Kendall's 3rd coming, it would be if no one else wanted us.
Watch me fall on that sword and those words!!
Good morning everyone. Here we go again.
53 Posted 09/06/2021 at 07:52:10
All ambition seems to have long died out, as we gear ourselves up for the inevitable looming relegation battle that next season will bring. So sad to see us in such a desperate mess.
54 Posted 09/06/2021 at 07:54:39
55 Posted 09/06/2021 at 07:59:57
Of course there is the danger they turn out to go the Marco Silva way but to me it so clearly represents our best chance of moving forwards. Brendan Rogers and Leicester have shown how a club of our stature can move forwards; talented young coach able to progress and motivate well recruited talented young players.
56 Posted 09/06/2021 at 08:01:45
57 Posted 09/06/2021 at 08:02:45
58 Posted 09/06/2021 at 08:16:04
He will need every bit of his knowledge in that field to work out what is coming his way if he gets the job.
59 Posted 09/06/2021 at 08:24:53
60 Posted 09/06/2021 at 08:41:01
However, the point of my post is that when Poch was appointed to the manager's role at PSG, my Paris colleague was screaming that PSG should have paid whatever they had to pay to get Galtier - and that was BEFORE he won the title with Lille. He said this morning that he prayed Galtier came to the UK as he feels either Lille or Nice will be a major problem for PSG next season if he remains in France!
He also said that if it was a choice between EFC and Spurs - he made his apologies! Nuff said.
61 Posted 09/06/2021 at 08:46:17
62 Posted 09/06/2021 at 09:01:17
Interest times ahead!
63 Posted 09/06/2021 at 09:07:31
64 Posted 09/06/2021 at 09:08:36
Must say - he is now my preferred choice, with Gallardo number two.
65 Posted 09/06/2021 at 09:21:16
66 Posted 09/06/2021 at 09:21:28
67 Posted 09/06/2021 at 09:28:37
68 Posted 09/06/2021 at 09:59:04
Think we have dodged a bullet with Nuno Espirito Santo opting for Palace. What a lack of ambition! Palace staying in the PL is the bar set by their board for success and now less likely without their beloved Zaha on the park! Which of his ex-Wolves players are going to advance their careers by following him there?
EFC might not be all there yet but at least we theoretically have ambitions of the TOP Four and Europe and we may have got much closer without "Carlo the Tragicamente" deciding that attack had no place at Goodison Park especially when you are playing the bottom eight in the PL.
69 Posted 09/06/2021 at 10:07:26
70 Posted 09/06/2021 at 10:11:25
Right back to obsessive internet watching for latest rumours.
71 Posted 09/06/2021 at 10:18:49
72 Posted 09/06/2021 at 10:35:56
My reaction too.
I always thought Nuno came across as a decent person (not necessarily the quality needed in football management) but this got me thinking hes just milking it in the belief that he had Palace over a barrel. Im not sure his demands are about money but a previous warning that he wants to bring his entire back room staff with him - thats a P45 to a few already at Finch Farm and another load of compo to fork out if it goes belly up.
Galtier or Rangnick for me.
73 Posted 09/06/2021 at 10:38:01
On his meeting Little Miss Dynamite - the things I'm gonna do to you !!
By the way what about Frodo. He's been to Mordor and sacrificed his ring to destroy them. That's the commitment we need.
74 Posted 09/06/2021 at 11:07:52
Yes agree, he has a lot of backroom staff apparently and just don't think it looks good if you start demanding, just makes me feel there are there for the demands and not actually wanting to be at the club and care
75 Posted 09/06/2021 at 11:12:19
76 Posted 09/06/2021 at 11:38:57
Surprising really - most managers seem to bring their "team" with them these days. Was he asking to bring a beard-consultant, pole-dancing trainer, and toastie chef as well as the usual assistant coach, fella with the iPad, and chief ear-whisper that tend to be vital to the modern manager on the touchline?
77 Posted 09/06/2021 at 11:42:02
Don't know what to make of that?
78 Posted 09/06/2021 at 11:46:47
BK _ well Big Dunc how's the new manager shaping up
DF - och yarr, Billy Bollochs, macdoo, ydreeky arr, yer saasenachi mucka.
BK - that bad eh !
79 Posted 09/06/2021 at 12:01:58
80 Posted 09/06/2021 at 12:08:44
81 Posted 09/06/2021 at 12:12:20
82 Posted 09/06/2021 at 12:13:55
83 Posted 09/06/2021 at 12:19:16
84 Posted 09/06/2021 at 12:19:41
Galtier or Favre would be my options.
85 Posted 09/06/2021 at 12:20:03
86 Posted 09/06/2021 at 12:20:13
I wouldn't be too disappointed with either or them, atleast we'd see some fight.
Dunc is a fair bit more pragmatic and tactically astuste than some give him credit for on here, that ManU game he really showed he can both have ago and adapt the team to defend when the pressure is one.
Potter has impressed me with good fluent attacking football with plenty of guile. You have to wonder what he might of achieved with a decent finisher? I also ponder does he have a plan B, remember Bobby Brown shoes?
87 Posted 09/06/2021 at 12:35:27
Years of management experience x trophies won X factor of 2 for trophy in Top 4 league - last league position = managerial quotient.
(Top 4 league = England/Spain/Italy/Germany).
It looks like genius to me, but then I barely passed my Maths GCSE.
88 Posted 09/06/2021 at 12:41:41
It wouldn't surprise me if the put all the names in a hat and asked BK to pull one out at the end of all of this.
89 Posted 09/06/2021 at 12:43:28
90 Posted 09/06/2021 at 12:55:58
91 Posted 09/06/2021 at 13:07:53
What Everton and the other clubs who weren't involved think I have no idea. But if ever Everton needed the green light to absolutely smash the FFP rules then this is absolutely the time. How could they possibly sanction a points deduction if Everton did break the FFP rules when they hand out derisory fines for clubs who tried to break up the Premier League.
92 Posted 09/06/2021 at 13:17:02
93 Posted 09/06/2021 at 13:19:19
Please let me be wrong on the last one.
As someone once said on here, its the hope that kills you. COYB
94 Posted 09/06/2021 at 13:43:46
Lille winning Ligue 1 was quite remarkable given the strength of PSG but it's a pretty poor league and a world away from the Premier League. Have a look at the Ligue 1 winning managers over the last 20 years.
Potter – I honestly reckon his stock wouldn't be as high if it wasn't for Pep recently calling him the best English manager. On saying that, I'd be okay compared to some other candidates.
95 Posted 09/06/2021 at 14:04:04
96 Posted 09/06/2021 at 14:28:06
97 Posted 09/06/2021 at 15:05:40
98 Posted 09/06/2021 at 15:09:05
99 Posted 09/06/2021 at 16:38:47
But if yiu give him Pre Season, £200million to spend, then we got a good chance of winning the Premier League FA Cup Caraboa Cup, Champions League,Super Cup to.
Plus no manager will enjoy playing us.
Weve played in an empty Goodision, worst home record in our history.
What do we want???
We had Angellotti and Crap.
Potter will do.??
Gatier, hell do to.
Eddie would be ok.
There are no guarentees are there, ask Pep.
Just get one in, give him time, money and leave him to get on with it.
But demand the team have ago at home.Be difficult away, lose no more than 4, draw no more than 6.
100 Posted 09/06/2021 at 16:49:49
I'm surprised to ready so many fans 'don't care' or would be happy with 'whoever'.
For me we need better players. The positions and players should have been identified already before Carlo left. Brands needs to get on with bringing players in.
If Moyes is the no go benchmark, then I'm not sure why Dunc or Dyche are even mentioned. Nuno is no better, Potter, Wilder all defensively nieve and very Silva-esq.
101 Posted 09/06/2021 at 17:12:08
102 Posted 09/06/2021 at 17:19:29
Its what we want isn't it? Hugging ball boys and decking managers in the tunnel.
103 Posted 09/06/2021 at 17:49:42
BUT!! given inspiration and innovation are the REAL keys to transforming mid table bananas like us the image of Marco Silva and his vacant "I'm out of my depth" look kept appearing.
This ain't no place for the faint hearted - it's a no from me and uncle Horatio
104 Posted 09/06/2021 at 17:51:35
That doesn't bind anybody to anything; gives us time to conduct a proper search; and if 'the current' does the business, all to the good! If he doesn't, then we sign some outsider with a bit of pedigree.
105 Posted 09/06/2021 at 18:08:26
106 Posted 09/06/2021 at 18:13:01
I'd prob go Dyche tbh
107 Posted 09/06/2021 at 18:43:54
108 Posted 09/06/2021 at 18:54:25
Took 5 points of a 3 times champions league winning manager though ;-)
109 Posted 09/06/2021 at 18:55:48
After 14 years of work to get here, Potters stock is sky-high, his appointment regarded as a coup by Dan Ashworth, the technical director, and Tony Bloom, the owner, but he is in no doubt that he must deliver. “In my position you cannot use time as an excuse,” he says. “Of course, we want to be better, improve, and we will do. You can talk philosophy, identity, all these nice words – but you have to think in the short term as well. We are in a results game and you have to try and do your best to win.”
Nuno's season at Wovles is given the once over with one local reporter's views saying:
“I think youre bang on in terms of this season has exposed some of the limitations that hes got as a manager. We speak about him being quite a defensive manager, a reactive manager, but with some of the players Wolves have got that shouldnt be the case. “Its been desperate for 95 percent of the season. The only two performances which were good were the first game at Sheffield United and the win at Arsenal, which was really good. “Hand on heart I struggle to think of another performance, as an all-round performance. Chelsea (away), we were very solid defensively but never looked like scoring. Its just how long that style of football can be acceptable. “Its fickle because when results are there you gloss over the style of football more, and its exposed because theres no supporters, but a lot of things have made the last few months how they are. “For most of the season I think Wolves have been one of the three or four worst teams in the division, I think theyve just started the season well and thats helped them out a lot. I dont think theyre a good team at all.”
“Its been desperate for 95 percent of the season. The only two performances which were good were the first game at Sheffield United and the win at Arsenal, which was really good.
“Hand on heart I struggle to think of another performance, as an all-round performance. Chelsea (away), we were very solid defensively but never looked like scoring. Its just how long that style of football can be acceptable.
“Its fickle because when results are there you gloss over the style of football more, and its exposed because theres no supporters, but a lot of things have made the last few months how they are.
“For most of the season I think Wolves have been one of the three or four worst teams in the division, I think theyve just started the season well and thats helped them out a lot. I dont think theyre a good team at all.”
110 Posted 09/06/2021 at 18:57:57
Nuno is playing games with his likely appointment although hardly worthy of the time allowed him. He will, however, have plenty of time between now and the above date to be sackable so as to make way for Big Sam to save us from relegation. Again.
111 Posted 09/06/2021 at 18:58:41
112 Posted 09/06/2021 at 19:01:24
Can't see any reason why, when they are discussing the new manager, they don't discuss the next one to be appointed in 18 months time.
113 Posted 09/06/2021 at 19:02:39
114 Posted 09/06/2021 at 19:25:08
Thanks for the link on Potter.
I know of him obviously, but he has largely gone under my radar.
Interesting read. I'll have a deeper delve...
115 Posted 09/06/2021 at 19:45:22
Who just manages the team.
No huge ego, no brand, no baggage.
Let the Sporting Director recruit and lead on contracts.
Let the commercial side do whatever it does.
Let the manager coach the team.
116 Posted 09/06/2021 at 19:55:54
117 Posted 09/06/2021 at 20:09:49
118 Posted 09/06/2021 at 20:10:33
I thought you said five pounds
119 Posted 09/06/2021 at 20:18:05
Nuno could at least steady the ship, coach and improve and incorporate some Brands signings into the team - with a view to really kicking on at the point the stadium is built.
That's not a bad option for the next three years, especially if we can get back in the Europa league - which is something we could win.
Not the most exciting or ambitious option, granted, but we're a club off 12th and 10th finishes in the last 2 seasons with a deteriorating squad.
Much as I love the idea of big ambitious appointments, I can't see that being matched by an ambitious transfer kitty. That therefore leads to further tension within a club already pulling in too many different directions.
That's why I think Potter may also be a good fit too. By no means roaring successes but a step in the right direction.
120 Posted 09/06/2021 at 20:22:58
Guess you won't understand that!!
121 Posted 09/06/2021 at 20:25:07
122 Posted 09/06/2021 at 20:30:27
Fonseca to Spurs which is a relief, they haven't taken someone decent off the market.
123 Posted 09/06/2021 at 20:40:15
124 Posted 09/06/2021 at 20:56:19
They only thing I would ask is please do not bring back an ex just for the sentimental nonsense. No Moyes and no Rooney - albeit I can see a double combo of the two would be BKs dream!
Just someone sensible who doesn't talk nonsense in front of the cameras like Martinez!
125 Posted 09/06/2021 at 21:02:43
Nuno would not have been close to Palace job if we were interested surely. Ferguson would have been appointed by now if he were the favourite right? Wonder what Brands has up his sleeve. Something unexpected? Gasperini? Andre Villas Boas? Zidane?
126 Posted 09/06/2021 at 21:09:48
127 Posted 09/06/2021 at 21:57:48
128 Posted 09/06/2021 at 22:12:55
Interesting too in Lyndon's " Who would be your preferred choice to succeed Carlo Ancelotti Table " Christophe Galtier is not even listed yet could be ' the one '. Hope so!
129 Posted 09/06/2021 at 22:18:57
Galtier is on the list with a healthy 5%
130 Posted 09/06/2021 at 22:20:32
So where do we go now then?
131 Posted 09/06/2021 at 22:24:36
132 Posted 09/06/2021 at 22:25:06
133 Posted 09/06/2021 at 22:31:44
134 Posted 09/06/2021 at 22:49:49
Also high on Everton's list of targets are Potter, Martinez, and Galtier. Nuno's representatives have been spoken to, but their financial demands and the number of coaching staff that Nuno wants to bring with him are proving prohibitive, Moyes is also on the list but Everton has a good relationship with the Hammers, and King doubts that Everton will pursue the Scotsman for that reason.
135 Posted 09/06/2021 at 23:08:26
Please tell me that the Martinez you mention isn't BBS?
136 Posted 09/06/2021 at 23:09:54
Would people really prefer Benitez and his dour football nudging us into the top 10 than taking a risk on a young, modern coach who plays good football and could easily end up as the next Marco Silva but may also be the next Brendan Rodgers?
Benitez, Moyes and Howe are all still in the running presumably. Along with some other very uninspiring options. Martinez? Surely not. Lampard?
Galtier, Potter, Ten Hag, Gallardo, Gasperini all look like decent options to me who play attractive, high-energy football. Risky perhaps but if were gonna stay in perpetual mid-table shouldn't we try to hope for some entertainment at least? I'd take Leeds last season over ours please.
137 Posted 09/06/2021 at 23:10:27
Nuno is sounding like high maintenance.
Galtier Id prefer over the other two.
138 Posted 09/06/2021 at 23:17:31
That Liverpool side he built a few years ago on not much budget was formidable. And only Evertonians can appreciate what a combination Gareth Barry with Steven Gerrard could have been, they would have dovetailed perfectly.
And we need somebody to go like a dose of salts through FF without a backward glance. We could well have found our Luca Brasi
139 Posted 09/06/2021 at 23:23:06
We ain't ever going to get over his Liverpool past.
140 Posted 09/06/2021 at 23:28:07
let the process of forgiveness and reconciliation commence.
141 Posted 09/06/2021 at 23:31:20
142 Posted 09/06/2021 at 23:31:30
I thought Benitez did an impressive job at Newcastle, when I was under the impression that he was keeping them in the Premier League through sheer force of will. But now that I've seen Steve Bruce of all people do basically the same job (if not better), well... it gives me pause.
Nuno sounds like he may have been trying to pit Everton and Palace against each other to get a sweeter deal, and will likely end up with nothing now.
143 Posted 09/06/2021 at 23:33:02
144 Posted 09/06/2021 at 23:40:05
145 Posted 09/06/2021 at 23:58:15
We need to do something positive quickly, teams are already stealing a march on us as the transfer window opens.
Villa have already signed Buendia and Josh King, have moved for Ward-Prowse and Chis Wood and are supporting a manager who we would have sacked at the end of the season before last when they stayed up by a point.
Seems to me that they are now in exactly the position we want to be. Young exciting attacking side, Buendia, Watkins and Grealish scare the shit out of me, with a trusted manager and scouting team run by Graham McKenzie, the guy we should have taken from Leicester when we got Walsh.
Whatever is going on if we don't make a move soon there will be no one left to sign. City are releasing Phillips and are prepared to listen to offers for Bernardo Silva, now we might not get them anyway but we sure as hell won't with no one at the helm.
146 Posted 10/06/2021 at 00:14:01
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148 Posted 10/06/2021 at 00:54:41
149 Posted 10/06/2021 at 01:49:22
150 Posted 10/06/2021 at 01:54:34
151 Posted 10/06/2021 at 07:49:53
152 Posted 10/06/2021 at 08:15:36
153 Posted 10/06/2021 at 08:22:43
Dont mention Luca Brasi, Kevin, because Everton have been treading water for that long now, but I do know what you mean though mate!
Being serious, Liverpool have always been a ruthlessly professional football club, so Id also take Rafa Benitez, (a man who I genuinely used to absolutely detest) if only to instill this same ruthlessness into Everton?
His football might be a worry, especially coming on the back of Ancelottis dour brand, but we kid ourselves about things like the school of science really, however much it pains me to say it, and because my own wish for Everton, is for them to be a consistent football team, (near the top) this will only be achieved by becoming ultra-professional imo, and getting the shirkers right out of our club.
154 Posted 10/06/2021 at 09:14:55
Yes he won the CL but that was 16 years ago!! And despite managing some great teams since he has not won a top flight league title since Valencia almost 20 years ago.
He didn't pull up many trees at Chelsea, was fairly mediocre at Real Madrid and Napoli and got Newcastle relegated. Then went to the Chinese wilderness and didn't do that well there either.
He's 61 and unlikely to be burning with hunger to take a club he once called small back to the pinnacle. Really don't understand people calling for him. Steve Bruce would be preferable.
I'm sure Benitez could probably charge us a small fortune to keep us around 10th with some turgid football but we surely need to be a touch braver than that?
155 Posted 10/06/2021 at 09:16:26
As Bill (142) implies - he'd be a rich man's Steve Bruce.
156 Posted 10/06/2021 at 09:27:18
Have you seen the bigger piggies
In their starched white shirts?
You will find the bigger piggies
Stirring up the dirt,
Always have clean shirts to play around in
In their styes with all their backing
They don't care what goes on around
In their eyes there's something lacking
What they need's a damn good whacking
Everywhere there's lots of piggies
Living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives to eat the bacon
A ‘good whacking indeed!
157 Posted 10/06/2021 at 09:28:05
For those laughing at the suggestion of Bobby being ridiculous I find this incredible. For the last eighteen months all I have heard about was Carlo's CV well personally I think Roberto's is hugely impressive considering the ammunition at his disposal, indeed it is phenomenal (sorry,couldn't resist).
At Swansea he is considered their best ever manager with statistically their record ever win percentage (roughly 10% better than Rodgers, Potter or Cooper), the creator of their philosophy and a league title to boot.
At Wigan likewise he is considered their best ever manager winning an FA Cup when you consider the squads he was up against and keeping them in the division all but one year, and on a meagre budget.
At Belgium he has turned a decent squad with a couple of world class players into the number one team in the world and got to the semi's of the World Cup only beaten by the Champions. Again statistically he is their best ever manager.
Even at Everton he achieved more in his three years than any other three year spell over the last three and half decades. 5th place with a record 72 point haul, last 16 in Europe and two cup semi's is pretty impressive on a limited budget. Had it not been for a poor decision which changed the game against Man City in the Carling Cup I personally believe we would have won that competition. Statistically he is also one of our best managers despite many of our fan base perception of him as a failure.
Personally I would love to see how the likes of Holgate, Gomes, Nkounkou, Richarlison and even Bernard would develop under him. He gets the best out of players and has improved them everywhere he has went.
I also think giving Bobby Moshiri's weaponry would make a huge difference and, as we seen from the signings of Barry and McCarthy, he will identify the key problems in the squad that need addressed which Ancelotti failed to do. He would also dovetail Brands beautifully and develop a core of homegrown and international talent so that we would have a foundation going forward.
158 Posted 10/06/2021 at 09:48:45
Yes, Martinez gave us our best league points total in a very long time. But he also gave us 2 of our worst totals in the last 15 years.
His first season was impressive though some might say it was built on a mix of his attacking philosophy and a defense that had been well drilled by Moyes. But it went downhill after that.
Only 47 points two seasons on the trot despite managing a team with the likes of Lukaku, Barry, Stones, Barkley does not look so good. No Everton manager has done worse since and you have to return to 2004 to find when we fared so badly before.
He was given three years and our league form got worse rather than better. He was and maybe still is a good manager for cup teams. We shall see in the the Euros. Perhaps he has corrected the faults he previously had, difficult to tell when he's managing an international team.
They say never go back and I think in this case they might be right.
159 Posted 10/06/2021 at 09:51:24
160 Posted 10/06/2021 at 09:52:31
Having said all that I have NEVER advocated (not only for us, but any Club) re-signing Managers or Players doesn't work out ! I can't think of one instance that has disproved that theory. No doubt someone will come up with a name ( I'm all ears Noddy!) but if there is one even it would be a one-off!
161 Posted 10/06/2021 at 09:58:38
This is a man who couldn't organise a defence, whose substitutions threw away leads, whose tactics were ignored by the players in order to avoid relegation, who wouldn't discipline a rogue penalty taker, whose teams played boring sideways football a lot of the time, who presided over a hastily cobbled together, disorganised pre-season tour, who signed substandard Wigan players, whose gobbledook and bullshittery were phenomenally embarrassing. I have to say that towards the end of his reign, some of the football played by his teams were as crap as anything Ancelotti managed to conjure up.
Aye but we had one great season under him. Out of three!
Koeman aside, he is the only manager at Everton whose services I was glad to see the club dispense with. Each to his own though eh?
162 Posted 10/06/2021 at 10:10:52
163 Posted 10/06/2021 at 10:21:39
I agree the third season was a disaster and he was rightfully sacked but if Moshiri had have been braver and backed him on arrival there is no doubt in my mind we would have a much better squad.
I think the Cup manager is a red herring because at Swansea he is their record league points holder, at Wigan was decent and in the group qualification with Belgium it's almost perfect. One poor year at Everton and arguably one at Wigan( but wanted the cup) only validate that unsubstantiated claim.
As to the argument we were built on Moyes defence. We had primarily Seven defensive outfield players contributing to that defence. Only Distin,Jags and Baines played in defensive positions under Moyes. All three were getting on in years. McCarthy and Barry were key to that first seasons defensive shape. Coleman had only played on the right wing under Moyes and if I recall correctly Stones who played a few games also hadn't played under Moyes. Of course the Scot is a better defensive coach than Martinez but I believe this idea that Martinez was not responsible for that first season is grossly unfair and inaccurate. He is doing well defensively with poor defensive players at Belgium.
164 Posted 10/06/2021 at 10:31:16
I'm certainly not suggesting he was not responsible and deserving of credit for the first season, but it does seem fair to note that there was a defensive solidity in the start of that season that began to evaporate towards the end and was totally gone by his second season.
It would be an intriguing appointment and certainly his CV is not without merit. Personally I would be nervous, till I had seen him organise a team in the top flight to be defensively solid over the course of at least one season.
165 Posted 10/06/2021 at 12:07:44
166 Posted 10/06/2021 at 13:49:09
- Three times French manager of the year, League One
- Took Lille from one point off relegation in 2018 to runners up
in French league 2019 and a Champions League place
- League Cup winner in 2013 with Saint Etienne
- League One winner with Lille, 2020/21
- Renowned tactician
- Believes in developing young talent and has been praised for
- Resigned from Lille in 2021 because he is looking for a new challenge
167 Posted 10/06/2021 at 14:15:47
168 Posted 10/06/2021 at 14:18:27
Those are impressive points.
He would certainly have my backing.
169 Posted 10/06/2021 at 17:27:09
Was it ever confirmed that we actually had talks with Nuno? All I've seen is that we're 'to have talks' with him!
The more time goes on I get the sense that different people in the boardroom want different managers and are pulling in opposite directions. I hope I'm wrong.
We should be seriously trying to convince Galtier. He looks a class act. If he says no.. then it's Potter for me. Nuno a distant 3rd.
170 Posted 10/06/2021 at 22:01:41
171 Posted 10/06/2021 at 23:37:48
Moyes, Benitez, Silva and Martinez, yesterday's men for us. The Turkish guy? Mrs Moshiri supposedly talking about him!!
Dyche, Potter. If they are so good why hasn't anybody snapped them up? Dunc, Carsley and Cahill? Why is Cahill always being mentioned?
Three running Everton? A camel is a horse designed by a committee. Zut alors... get the Frenchie in!
172 Posted 11/06/2021 at 08:55:57
I'm sure I saw a report of an interview with him where he said that he was not interested in coaching nor management, yet his name is forever being mentioned in this context.
Does anyone out there really know what he is doing, and what his intentions are?
173 Posted 11/06/2021 at 09:02:55
174 Posted 11/06/2021 at 09:11:12
Why anyone would think he's suitable for managing a Premier League club alongside another novice, lacking in ambition, in Ferguson is beyond comprehension.
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