CEO's departure among three changes in Everton Boardroom

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Denise Barrett-Baxendale has left her role as Chief Executive Officer of Everton along with Chief Finance and Strategy Officer Grant Ingles and non-executive Board member Graeme Sharp.

The announcement from the club confirms indications in the last few weeks that Sharp and Barrett-Baxendale at least would be stepping down from the Board of Directors following calls from supporters to majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri to institute change in the leadership of the club.

A statement from the club regarding the future of Chariman Bill Kenwright and interim appointments to satisfy the requirements in the Articles of Association that there be a minimum of three Board members is due within 48 hours but the expectation is that he, too, will be leaving Everton.

A parting letter from the Directors read:

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“We have all been fully committed during our time here and are disappointed to have made the decision to leave Everton. 

“We have worked tirelessly alongside our Chairman in what has been a challenging period to deliver some of the most significant projects in Everton’s history – projects that will safeguard and sustain the commercial future of the Club for generations to come.

“We are proud of the commercial growth projects progressed during our time on the Board, including the construction of the Club’s new waterfront stadium. This construction project – the largest currently on site in the UK - is progressing at pace. 

“The Club’s partnership portfolio has also been increased and diversified, reflected in record commercial partnerships and the expansion of our work internationally.

“In addition to these commercial achievements, we take great pride in the continued growth of the Club’s social programmes and the plans that the Board has put in place for the community-led regeneration scheme at Goodison Park. 

“It has been an honour and a privilege to serve as Directors. We would like to thank everyone who has supported us during our time here. We wish the Club we have loved to serve every success in the future.”

Kenwright, meanwhile, took the opportunity to thank the departing CEO for "her many achievements, particularly her magnificent work in respect of our new stadium. 

“This has been a great Board who have all worked tirelessly for the Club, no matter what the circumstances," he said. My relationship with Denise has been known as one of the closest in football."

Everton have endured two tumultuous years since Carlo Ancelotti abruptly left as head coach to return Real Madrid and was replaced by Rafael Benitez. A collapse in form under the Spaniard left the club in freefall and prompted the first organised protests by fans at the running of the club in December 2021.

Benitez he was sacked and replaced by Frank Lampard who managed to steer the Blues to Premier League safety last year with a game to spare but he soon proved to be ill-equipped to take the team forward, although he was hobbled to a degree by Everton's failure to sign a reliable goalscorer in the 2022 summer transfer window.

The former Chelsea boss struggled to get the best out of the squad at his disposal and he, too, was dismissed in late January this year following a horrendous run of results played out against another failure of recruitment in the transfer market where Moshiri's promise to sign a striker went unfulfilled.

In the meantime, the members of Everton's Board had stopped attending home matches due to alleged threats to their personal safety amid mounting protests from supporters. Peaceful marches demanding change in the Boardroom were frequently held before games at Goodison Park in the final few months of the season while the Directors Box remained conspicuously empty.

Moshiri, meanwhile, has been talks with potential investors since the turn of the year and has made progress with New York-based MSP Sports Capital who have taken the first steps towards involvement with the club that could eventually end with them taking a stake in Everton.

Plans for them to help fund the remainder of the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock are underway and they are expected to have representation on the Board in the wake of the departures of Barrett-Baxendale and Ingles.

With new manager, Sean Dyche, having led the club to safety with a dramatic win over Bournemouth on the final day of this past season and the new ground on schedule, Everton are in a position to now plan for the future on the basis of being a Premier League outfit.

 

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Shane Corcoran
1 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:02:29
The cull has started. Three resignations.
Colin Metcalfe
2 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:03:56
Breaking news: Denise Barrett-Baxendale, Grant Ingles and Graeme Sharp have left their positions; no sign of Bill going anywhere...
Michael Lynch
3 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:05:26
Announcement about Bill in the next 48 hours.
Shane Corcoran
4 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:06:04
Watch this space, Michael?
Marc Hints
5 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:06:25
Announcement about Kenwright in the next 48 hrs and board appointments.
Lee Jackson
6 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:07:47
Everton Football Club today announces its Chief Executive Officer, Denise Barrett-Baxendale, Chief Finance and Strategy Officer Grant Ingles and Non-Executive Director Graeme Sharp have left their roles.
Kunal Desai
7 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:08:48
75% done – now for the biggest parasite to leave would make it a wonderful summer.
Michael Kenrick
8 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:12:00
I don't believe it! How could they possibly can such an incredible team?

And Barrett-Baxendale??? C'mon, she is just wonderful.

Shurly Shome Mishtake???

Will Mabon
9 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:12:07
And Willy?

Will Mabon
10 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:13:33
Well... "It" begins. Hang on tight!
Rob Halligan
11 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:13:48
Kenwright is still there but hopefully not for long! 👍👍👍

Changes are starting, and not before time.

Gavin Fennessy
12 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:15:30
May need to get Bill in a headlock?
Michael Kenrick
13 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:16:35
And still absolutely zero admission or apology for their utter incompetence in leading the club toward relegation and punitive financial restrictions – or worse yet to come.
Brian Williams
14 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:16:49
Ffs please don't let those three be the sacrificial lambs that allow Kenwright to stay!!

A statement will be made about interim appointments and the future of the Chairman in the next 48 hours.

That's straight off the Official Website.

Steve Brown
15 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:17:22
Kenwright is still negotiating the musical rights to “Bill, the Everton miracle worker.”
Mark Hulme
16 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:18:05
Some good news for a change then!
Mick O'Malley
17 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:18:37
Trust Kenwright to be the last to go.

Get ready for an excruciating exit where he blows his own trumpet and tells us how much of an Evertonian he is and crows about the “Good times”…

Tony Abrahams
18 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:18:40
"A challenging period" is the only believable thing that they have writen, until you carry on reading the rest of the sentence.
Phil Lewis
19 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:19:27
Surely to God only noughts on the end of Billy Boy's pay-off that's holding his departure up.
Steve Brown
20 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:19:59
Can’t believe they are letting this dream team break up - after all, they had the reverse Midas in their DNA.

Everything they touched turned to shit.

Frank Sheppard
21 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:20:04
They claim their priority was “Significant projects” …… shame they oversaw the worst football season in our history. No mention of football at all.
Jon Bentley
22 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:21:52
Bill's probably just there from a Board Governance perspective. There's only 4 directors so, if 3 go, there needs to be someone to operate at Board level. It can't be a zombie company — although some would suggest we've been half-dead for years anyway.

Hopefully, this is just the precursor to new appointments which would allow Blue Bill to depart stage left!!!

Michael Lynch
23 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:22:24
Burlusconi dead, Boris Johnson resigned, Nicola Sturgeon banged up, Trump being charged, and our Bill just keeps on going.

He's fucking indestructable, you have to give the old bastard that.

Mike Hayes
24 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:22:43
Good news but they spout some shit – no apologies… bloody disgrace. I hope they never set foot near Goodison or Everton again –and that includes Sharp.

Now to get rid of the main leech – the quicker that thing is gone, the better! 😡😡

Jerome Shields
25 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:23:48
Great news, but Kenwright's still using his shares to get as much as he can get out of Everton.

Interesting to see who is on the new Board.

Will Mabon
26 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:28:17
We have all been fully committed during our time here and are disappointed to have made the decision to leave Everton."

To have had the decision made for us to leave. Fixed it.

I do go on about it, but when, oh when can we launch PR into outer space?

Christine Foster
27 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:28:57
Pushed…

Disgraceful statement with no acknowledgement of the club's position or its perilous situation. They leave the club in its worst mess since its beginning.

Utterly shameful, arrogant and so out of touch with every supporter of this club that they should be run out of town. If you can be prosecuted for gross incompetence, then this would make a perfect example.

Kicking and screaming, pointing to what they have done cannot disguise the harm caused. They have been thrown to the wolves... I wonder if it was the Chairman who told them, "Infamy, infamy, they all have it infamy..."

Rob Halligan
28 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:29:05
Michael # 16. That is so funny, can't stop laughing at that. 😂😂😂

I know MSP are now registered with Companies House, with a formal announcement expected in the next few days. Hopefully then Billy Boy will be given the boot and MSP will take over all the seats on the board, along with what's his face from Formby……

Fuck, I can't think of his name without Googling it!

John Chambers
30 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:30:35
For all the failings of the various board members, surely the biggest failure is Ingles as the Chief Finance Officer. Day to day, he was the man who should have been managing the finances and stopping us getting into the appalling mess we are in.

Also, given what was said the other day about having to have a minimum of 4 directors, we should be expecting an announcement imminently about who, hopefully from MSP to confirm their investment, is joining the board.

Kevin Molloy
31 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:31:01
I had such high hopes when Denise Barrett-Baxendale and Graeme Sharp were put in charge. But it does look like them not having one day's experience of professional sports management may have counted against them in the end.

I guess playing centre-forward for Everton and running a charity weren't transferrable skills to elite sports management.

I wonder now whether it might be an idea for our man in Monaco to look for future board members who can show that they've done things in the past which relate to what we want them to do now?

They don't even need to be any good, just showing they know what the job entails would be a major leap forward at this point.

Pat Kelly
32 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:32:54
The self-serving statement somehow forgot to mention that they twice almost got us relegated. They must've got advice from Boris Johnson on how to write a farewell statement.
Jerome Shields
33 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:33:21
Tell me it's not true
Say it's just a story
Something on the news
Tell me it's not true
Though it's here before me
Say it's just a dream
Say it's just a scene
From an old movie from years ago

From an old movie of Marilyn Monroe's

Reading between the lines of the Directors' statement.

Steve Brown
34 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:33:22
Fan power in action.

Rob @ 21, I think you mean Andy Bell from Formby? But knowing Everton, we’ll end up appointing Andy Bell from Erasure.

Stephen Davies
35 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:33:47
And Purslow (CEO) leaves Villa.

Hmmmm??

Gary Brown
36 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:35:16
On this day of good news, we learn Carlo is suing us in court.

Fat, greedy tit. Worse than Benitez him….

Steve Brown
37 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:35:37
Stephen, that would piss the red shite off no end.
Jack Convery
38 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:36:18
Not a single word about their failures!!

Still, they are gone – HURRAH!!!

Come on now, Bill, don't keep us waiting.

Joe Corgan
39 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:37:44
I'm slightly surprised Ingles has gone but the lack of grace in their statement is telling.

Any kind of admission that they got it wrong would have been appreciated. The blaming of the fans, the 'headlock', the vacation of their duties since January, the club's league position, the club's financial position. The list goes on.

Whether or not these people did their best is not particularly relevant. They utterly, utterly failed in their duties and then tried to blame the fans for their own incompetence. Yet they have the temerity to walk out the door without a hint of admission that they had any part to play in our complete collapse as a football club. That says a lot about their character.

Now come on Bill, your time is up.

Edit: I see the official statement has now also been amended:

A statement will be made about interim appointments and the future of the Chairman in the next 48 hours.

Rob Halligan
40 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:37:49
Cheers, Steve. Just couldn't think of his name, or where he lives, amidst all the excitement of this news about the board, or three-quarters of it anyway!
Brendan McLaughlin
41 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:38:51
Half expecting Blue Bill to be kept on for some 12/18 months for continuity reasons so he can still be Chair when the new stadium opens.
Steve Croston
42 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:43:28
I can't think of a single nice thing to say about them.

Sharp has tarnished his standing as a blue hero and whatshername and whatshisface can both just fuck off and take their incompetent, bumbling approaches to somewhere more deserving.

Luvvie darling is up next... Dead Man Walking!!!

Christine Foster
43 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:44:03
Sounds a very bitter statement, no acknowledgement of fan base, relegation fight, belief in the club going forward etc… No, this is a statement of arrogance, the hard done too.

This was not a joint decision to leave, this was a result of new investors and Moshiri having to lance the boil... all that's left is the removal of an arm and a leg of a chairman.

4:45 am here in New Zealand – looks like it might be a nice day...

Paul Ferry
44 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:45:54
Not a single note of regret, sorrow, or apology, although I suppose that was to be only expected.

This is excellent news and is as good a sign as we are likely to have that serious investment is incoming and soon. The dead wood is being cleared out and it has to happen here at this level before anything of deep significance happens on the playing front.

We should still feel angry and still seethe, but this is more than anything else a moment of relief with some sunny optimistic rays. We all know who the next one out of the door should be, and that will surely happen with a wad of new investment.

We can now imagine and look forward to a better run club in all departments but most of all recruitment and the business sides of what we do which still lags well behind the 'Sky four, five, six, seven?' who took on board the 'new' commercial and financial management and culture of the Premier League so long ago.

This is down to all of our owners and chairman and that starts with Tory Carter who should never have had a stand named after him. Carter who joyously went to the dinner hosted by ITV along with the four others of the 'big five' – Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United and Spurs – to discuss a breakaway league where the five would get by far the larger slice of revenues.

It starts with Carter but there is only one common denominator and constant thorn in the side of our club since 1995. He must go. I hope his droopy jowls and slumped posture are never seen at the Old Lady again.

It's a coin toss: are we further behind on the playing side or the commercial, financial, and management sides?

And wither Graeme Sharp? An ignominious exit, I fear, for one of the heroes of Howard's Way. He will slip out of the back door and have no role, ambassadorial or other, to play in our next chapter.

I just read this breaking news sitting outside a Clerkenwell Italian cafe, drinking cold white wine after a long day working in Archives, and I feel so much better and brighter now with another wine out of the way and the belief that each one of us on here should feel a real blue streak of optimism.

Michael Lynch
45 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:47:34
Stephen @28, that's a great shout.

He was always going to leave Villa because Emery had his own man supposedly, but Purslow has been a superb CEO by all accounts.

Aston Villa: Christian Purslow to step down as chief executive

Sign him, Moshiri!

Barry Rathbone
46 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:48:11
“We are proud of the commercial growth projects progressed during our time on the Board, including the construction of the Club's new waterfront stadium. This construction project – the largest currently on site in the UK - is progressing at pace.

And will ensure we don't have a pot to piss in to buy players.

Cheers, big ears!

Stephen Davies
47 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:50:05
Michael.

I think Monshi has joined up again with his mate Emery at Villa.

Tony Everan
48 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:50:25
So Wednesday 14 June is K-Day. Get the champagne in ready.
Ian Edwards
49 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:53:27
The "fans" that have treated Club legend Graeme Sharp like shit and forced him out are a disgrace. The fanbase would be better off without them.
Kevin Molloy
50 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:53:30
It's worth bearing in mind that Barrett-Baxendle and Sharp were classic Kenwright appointments. They were appointed not cos they were any good, but cos they would be loyal to him and act as a fireguard in case of trouble.

If the Chairman isn't also removed in the next 48 hours, we will continue to make the same mistakes going forward. Certainly if he has a hand in the process of finding replacements for them, that will be. a disaster.

Jack Convery
51 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:55:28
I can hear those finger nails, dug deep into his desk, Bill being dragged across the top of it and him screaming, "No! No!! No!!! I don't like it, I don't like it! (Think Andrea Trueconnection More More More!).

Moshiri's Long Knives, a new novel by Stephen King, following on from his previous works, Blue Hell and Rafa: The Haunting.

Mark Ryan
52 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:56:56
Kenwright Out!!
Alex Gray
53 Posted 12/06/2023 at 17:58:46
This goes a long way if Bill resigns too. Hopefully he's just waiting 48 hours for his big dramatic goodbye.
Christine Foster
54 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:01:38
Ian Edwards.

It's not the fans who have forced Sharp out, it's money, pure and simple. He is as culpable as the rest of the board, but the fans are not responsible.

I suggest that you look to the owner and his decision to seek investment as the cause, not the fans, who this board have ignored or derided at every opportunity.

Sharp himself made his choice to get into bed with the board of EFC, for better or worse.

Chris Leyland
55 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:02:11
We'd be better off without quislings calling other fans a disgrace for getting rid of this board of sycophants and Kenwright yes-men.
Jer Kiernan
56 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:05:27
Just fuck off now, Bill – no fairytale encores, no swan songs, just a toe in the hole.

What's most important is that they and their buffoon of a Chairman will leave in failure, disgrace and shame which is the only legacy to which this bunch are entitled, The 40-year demise of this club which I have witnessed has been criminal.

The question remains: What permanent damage they have done? And can we recover?

It is true of so many things in life but sometimes you do have to hit rock bottom to turn things around. Don't slam the door on your way out!

Brian Williams
57 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:05:27
Chris. It's a cry for attention mate. Don't provide it. :-)
Jack Convery
58 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:07:04
Phil McNulty on Radio Merseyside with more on the resignations, Now..
Joe Corgan
59 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:08:18
Ian @ 42,

Sharp could have saved his own skin at any time. He's not the Chairman, CEO or the Finance Director. He had no particular duties or expectations as a non-executive director.

All he had to do was attend recent matches and possibly release a statement thanking the fans for their support, while distancing himself from the 'headlock' allegations. If either of those things meant his removal from the board (which I doubt anybody would have had the guts to do!) he would still have been on the right side of history.

Unfortunately, he chose to stay silent, essentially choosing to side with the outgoing board.

In my mind, he's still welcome at the club and still a club legend. Unfortunately he seems to have mixed up his loyalties and should play no further part at board level in the future.

Andrew Keatley
60 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:09:55
Hahaha — only Ian Edwards could take this news, process it, and immediately make a disparaging comment towards our fans. You are beyond parody.

And to Sharp, Barrett-Baxendale and Ingles: don't hit your heads on the way out. If any of you had a modicum of self-respect – or respect for the fanbase – you would have resigned months ago.

Hopefully Kenwright will be gone in hours rather than days.

Barry Hesketh
61 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:10:13
Incredible, Mr Edwards, you have managed to blame the fans!

Sharp wasn't forced to be part of the board, he knowingly joined it to shore up support for the Chairman. He could have resigned at any point in his time on the board; he didn't.

None of these people have resigned – they have been pushed out completely. Who knows, is it possible they have been 'resigned' since the Southampton game?

The one we're all awaiting is the main culprit for the culture at Everton and I can only think that he has to sign off the accounts that his retirement has been delayed?

It's good to know that the Chairman and his board believe they have left the club in a better state than they found it – well that's certainly more than worthy of debate.

Kunal Desai
62 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:12:46
The statement sums up Kenwright's tenure (hopefully his last hurrah). Yet another delusional mouthpiece like he's been spouting out for the past 20 years.

He revels in his ramblings.

Jeff Armstrong
63 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:13:04
Please ignore Ian Edwards, he's after a rise from everyone, don't give him the pleasure.

Ignore him, he might go away.

(I know… I just couldn't help myself.)

Andy Crooks
64 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:15:13
Chris,

Brian Williams is right. Ignore attention-seeking cretins like #42.

Sharp a "legend"? Fuck me, what was Dixie Dean if the accolade is given to money-grabbing, shameless scroungers.

Rob Dolby
65 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:16:21
I hope the fan that put Denise Barrett-Baxendale in a headlock is happy now. How are we going to cope without this hat-trick of genius leaving the club?

It's a good job we can still thank our lucky stars to have Boys Pen Bill still at the helm. His tireless work has put us where we are now.

Rob Halligan
66 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:16:25
Kenwright is currently going through all the clubs archives, digging out all the good times we've had since he's been chairman.

Should take him all of, what, about 10 seconds to find the one good time, if you can call it that, the FA Cup Final of 2009, before it's finally announced that the noose has been tightened and he's gone.

Fuck Off, Kenwright….. You fucking parasite!!

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
67 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:16:39
I said a few weeks ago, Sharpy should have resigned months ago and he would then continue to be a hero.
What was he gaining? Nothing. Money? Influence?
Alex Gray
68 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:17:00
Sharp is a yes-man who slagged off the fans to save his backside. I don't care how good of a player he was. He's no legend to me and the fans have done a magnificent job forcing well overdue change – getting rid of a board who were incompetent.

Maybe certain individuals need to get over themselves and think about what's best for the club because, if you're happy with what's happened over the last few years, you're certainly no fan in my eyes… and to be quite frank, you're not a fan at all.

That or stupid. Probably both.

James Head
69 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:17:02
Ian Edwards, stop being a knob, it's in the DNA but try…

Sharp is a Judas and deserves any stick he gets, himself and Barrett-Baxendale were puppets under the control of Machiavelli disciple Kenwright, the lot of them want legging up Goodison Road and into Stanley Park Lake.

Barry Hesketh
70 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:17:18
The Bobble @ElBobble:

Everton Chairman Bill Kenwright is to hold talks with Farhad Moshiri and looks set to depart the club 🔵
5:52 PM · Jun 12, 2023

If Ian Edwards disappears from these pages, following the departure of the Chairman, could we draw what seems a reasonable conclusion?

Jim Hourigan
71 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:18:03
I hate to be a pessimist but I think Kenwright has absolutely no intention of resigning. He has fed the other 3 to the wolves (ie, us) and then will brazen out his position.

He intends to be Chairman when we move to the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock so he can gloat and tell everyone what a great Evertonian he is. He will not attend any more matches but will refuse to budge.

He's just an arrogant self-centred shit.

Barry Rathbone
72 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:18:18
Ian @42,

Very true, without the protests and general angst as exampled incessantly on this forum,, the board would very likely still be toddling on.

But you broke the cardinal rule by criticising fans – Wow!!

Strictly verboten, no matter the facts.

Michael Barrett
73 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:18:47
It won't make a blind bit of difference on the pitch though.

Buy shite and sell your best players is eventually a recipe for the Championship.

Mick O'Malley
74 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:22:17
Who gives a toss whether Sharp is a club legend? That's history.

At this present time, he is absolutely useless. Good riddance.

Len Hawkins
75 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:22:45
Bumbling Bill Kenwright has to be kept on – he is the only one who knows how to use the 19th-Century phone system. All these clubs ringing to see how Everton would do it.

As for Ancelotti suing Everton… "What For" he cleared off to Real; it was his choice – no one who knows anything about football would think he had gone there for less money. To kick us while we are down, especially if it is greed inspired, is a farce.

Paul Ferry
76 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:23:00
I sort of feel the same way about you, Ian (Edwards), to be honest.

That is a disgraceful post that shows an utter lack of understanding or knowledge of the circumstances of Sharp's appointment and his tenure in post.

He did what he did. He knew what he did. He said what he said about the fans, nailing all he had to the Owner & Chairman mast. And now, sadly, he has to exit stage right and shamefully and deservedly.

You genuinely believe a single fan's voice has had anything to do with Sharp's appointment and resignation, Ian? It betrays an utter naivety and complete failure to understand how we have been run under the present shower.

Maybe you can present yourself as some suffering martyr again, Ian. Maybe you should have 40 days in the wilderness like that other martyr and try and learn something. But you do not speak in well-chosen contextual parables and you will never heal Everton because your grasp of the club is so thin.

Christine Foster
77 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:23:08
Barry, yes without those fans who dared to question, this fabulous board would now be in its second season of survival in the Championship!!!
Mike Gaynes
78 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:24:59
At last it has begun.

And let there be no doubt... it may not have been announced yet, but Bill is gone too. His continued official presence may just be procedural, a placeholder until the new Board is named. The minimum is three.

Now... Michael, Paul, Christine and others, I get all the anger about the statement, but were you really expecting apologies and mea culpas and public self-flagellation? When have you known human nature to work that way?

Honestly, I don't give a goddamn whether they sang Joy To The World, danced the can-can and sprinkled each other with rose water on the way out the door. Nothing they say matters now.

All that matters is that the change has come. I literally cannot wait to see who takes those Board seats now. (Mr Moorad, may I show you to your chair, sir? Oh, Mr Cahill, welcome back, sir, it's been a long time!)

All this and Trump being arrested again tomorrow. Maybe Joy To The World is appropriate.

Andy Crooks
79 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:25:24
Thanks, Barry, honest to God, I made a bet that you would be on in an hour backing Ian Edwards. No grass-cutting for me this evening. You never used to be so predictable.
Barry Hesketh
80 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:25:25
I doubt very much that any person who holds power at the club or those intending to become part of the club pay too much attention to the views of the fans, no matter how direct or noisy those views are made.

The board have gone because their record speaks for itself, their positions were untenable this time last year, but they managed to hold on for a long time, perhaps, in order to explain to the owner, why the current mess has come about.

I hope that the owner and the chairman become a footnote in Everton's history by the weekend, but that's probably a wish too far.

Gavin Fennessy
81 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:26:39
Appoint people competent to do the job and willing and able to stand up to those that know nothing on how to run a successful football club. That would seem a pretty obvious recipe for any owner or investor.

We have had luvvies, amateurs and charlatans in charge and it has been a fiasco. Glad to see the back of these three with Kenwright to follow.

Colin Glassar
82 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:29:08
Hallelujah!! Good riddance to bad rubbish. Just one final push now to get rid of the biggest leech in football. If this was Russia, all four of them would've fallen out of a window by now.

I hope this is also the beginning of the end for Moshiri now.

Tony Everan
83 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:29:51
He's asked for 48 hours to get all the Arteta money out from under the floorboards in his office. Security! Check those oversized wheelie suitcases.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
84 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:30:12
Okay, down to the bookies and put £10 on Bill Kenwright being made Honorary Life President with no management responsibilities.

He is not sacked. What he would not want. He is not kicked out of the club. What he would not want. He has no influence. What we all want.

Don't be bitter.

Paul Ferry
85 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:31:54
Phil McNulty:

Everton chairman Bill Kenwright: “This has been a great board."

Joe McMahon
86 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:32:52
Don't you just love the words from Bill? This is a start, but I won't be happy until this tosser has gone!
Barry Rathbone
87 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:33:07
Andy @72,

I've never liked the lit torch and pitchfork attempts at argument which is all that Ian is getting for speaking the truth.

The bit about the club being better off without them is another matter; football fans are generally off their skull regarding support. If rational thought played a big part, most stadiums would be half-empty.

Paul Ferry
88 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:33:55
Meanwhile, Kenwright, whose own future remains shrouded in doubt, paid tribute to Barrett-Baxendale's work during her time at the club:

“This has been a great board who have all worked tirelessly for the club, no matter what the circumstances,” he wrote.

“My relationship with Denise has been known as one of the closest in football. I thank her for her many achievements, particularly her magnificent work in respect of our new stadium.”

Danny O’Neill
89 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:34:37
A disgrace? The fans are a disgrace?

I would choose those words very carefully. The ones I stand with most weeks are not a disgrace.

Those thousands who have endured two very emotional last gasp relegation battles. Travelling thousands of miles by car, bus, coach, train and even plane. Early starts, home late to sleep with the dogs.

How fucking dare the finger gets pointed at the supporters. Trip to the swear jar.

Worked tirelessly? We've all had sleepless nights and slept all the way home with little reward.

I watched and adored Graham Sharp as a player in my younger years. He gave me some of my happiest moments at Goodison and on the road. But as a board member, he was passive and submissive. Part of a failing organisation and compliant to it.

We need to separate the two.

Pointing the finger at the supporters and calling them a disgrace is, well a disgrace in itself.

I'll give them the stadium. I admire the EitC work. But we are a football club and judged on our success on the football pitch.

That past, yes, no past board has not delivered.

I can't comprehend how anyone who stands amongst those supporters can blame the supporters.

Graham Sharp was unfortunately and disappointingly compliant.

Emotional outburst, but change is happening. Maybe Moshiri has finally smelt the coffee, or the new investors are calling the shots.

Peter Moore
90 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:35:05
Good news at last.

Not great; for that we need to be able to say the four B's:

Bye Bye Bullshit Billy.

Pete Neilson
91 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:35:26
“My relationship with Denise has been known as one of the closest in football.”

Even as the end draws near, he can't help himself. Not a dry eye in the house.

Paul Kossoff
92 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:36:16
We await with bated breath the announcement of our uncle Bill being given the title of Life Chairman.

"Will Bill have any say in the running of the club?" we ask.

"Why of course he will," says Mr Moshiri, "we can't afford to not utilize his vast knowledge of running what is after all his football club."

And so it continues.

Christine Foster
93 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:37:03
Mike,

Sorry but until Kenwright disappears out the gates of Goodison for the last time, I cannot sing any joyful songs. I really couldn't give a rat's arse about Barrett-Baxendale, Ingles or Sharp, or their going. The mess we are in lays at the feet of both Kenwright and Moshiri who between them for the last 20 years have run this club down.

I didn't expect a mea culpa, but it was not surprising that they failed to acknowledge the situation we are in. So, muted relief until the changes are complete…

Ray Jacques
94 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:37:39
Yes, Ian, it's all the fans' fault, isn't it? Nowt to do with the ineptitude, lies, abysmal decision-making and cowardice of this pathetic board. Even now, the sycophant that is Kenwright hangs around. Why didn't he leave with the other leeches today?

Perhaps the fan who put Barrett-Baxendale in a headlock (allegedly) can now step forward and identify himself now she has gone.

The statement was a disgrace, nothing about their running of a club into the ground with one of the worst teams we have had, a looming fine or points deduction due to their financial mismanagement, and the catastrophic managerial appointments, shit players on long contracts and top wages, etc etc.

Fuck off, the lot of them – and take fat Bill with you.

Brent Stephens
95 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:37:59
Maybe Prince Rupert's Tower is being prepared for Bill, as we speak. Andy Bell the warder. The times they are a'changing.

Money coming in, signalling confidence in our future. A board of wiser minds, Andy in the seat? The new-ground build proceeding apace. Roll on next season.

Tony Abrahams
96 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:38:40
I think It's time for rational thought, Andy!

Colin @75, that's exactly what I've been thinking since I heard this news, mate – especially after reading the statement from the outgoing board members, who make it sound like they are the only people who have been doing anything good or positive for Everton FC.

Mike Gaynes
97 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:40:05
Andy #72, glad you won your bet, mate. You have better things to do today!

I learned long ago that there were a couple of folks here who were never, ever worth responding to. You already know who they are.

And like I said, I do get the anger coming out, but nobody will find any in me. I'm too busy singing Spirit and doing a one-man wave in the bedroom. I'm a Happy Clapper today for sure.

Hallelujah.

Karl Masters
99 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:42:07
Just had a look on the website. Lots of praise for them by Kenwright.

My view might not be popular, but it's my opinion anyway. They have done lots of good things, that should not be overlooked. EitC, the new stadium, some of the commercial deals are as good as you can get outside the fabled Top 6, it's not all bad at all.

But, the structure of the club, the recruitment policy and the football culture is wrong. That's down to Moshiri, Kenwright and Thelwell plus Ancelotti leaving, Walsh, Koeman, Benitez, Brands and Lampard, so really they fall guys in many ways.

It all hinges on what happens on the pitch and actually these 3 don't have a huge say in any of that.

Andy Crooks
100 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:42:42
Fair enough, Barry. I defended Ian when he got some vile abuse on the live forum. But, Ian just trundles on and on.

I know you go against the tide and see both sides. Keep it up. Sometimes, though, torches and pitchforks... actually, nah, they're not.

Colin Glassar
101 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:43:41
Rob 59, the paper shredders and furnaces are working overtime as he's making sure there's no paper trail or evidence left of his misdeeds.

I fucking hate that man!

Ian Edwards
102 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:44:52
As usual some posters can't debate but just abuse. That's in some fans' DNA – to quote someone above. Moshiri controls the Board and makes all the decisions. Sharp is just a figurehead that shakes hands with sponsors on matchday.

My original post was about Sharp… but I'll extend it to Denise Barrett-Baxendale. When we all sit in the new ground, just remember you shat on the person who guided it to near completion. And if anyone whines "What about the 'eadlockkkkkk, lad?" then just jog on and talk about something important.
Paul Ferry
103 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:45:44
I remember being in what we called 'the morning room' next to the kitchen in the old Crosby gaff when I heard that John Lennon died.

And I will always remember sitting outside Terroni cafe & deli in Clerkenwell (WiFi code: terroni1878, by the way) drinking white wine when I heard about the first moves in binning the biggest parasite in the history of this famous club that has, Ian and Barry, the best fans of any Premier League club.

Paul Ferry
104 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:48:26
What exactly would you like to debate Ian (Edwards)? There seems little scope for debate in your unsupported string of generalisations.

But suggest some points for debate and we can begin.

"Abuse"! Grow up, lad.

Alex Gray
105 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:48:37
Ian,

I'd advise you go back to your original comment with a bit of self-awareness and you'll find your answer when you've just called majority of fans on here a disgrace. Stop playing the victim because nobody shares your utter delusion. Toodles.

Brian Wilkinson
106 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:51:21
Surely Bill has got to go now, Champagne on chill awaiting the news.

I just about coped with two relegation battles, but if slippery Bill survives as Chairman, I will get a huge gut wrenching feeling, in the pit of my stomach, do the decent thing and step down.

As for Ian E, what a disgrace to call fans who travelled all around the Country supporting Everton, have your opinions, but don’t be throwing supporters under the bus, like the board did.

Not often I comment or attack another posters comments, but I cannot defend your comments Ian.

Ed Prytherch
107 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:57:34
About fucking time. Good riddance.
Tony Abrahams
108 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:58:50
So Moshiri controls the board and makes all the decisions but it was Barrett-Baxendale who has guided the stadium to near completion.

How does this actually work?

Andrew Bentley
109 Posted 12/06/2023 at 18:59:27
Not Grant and Sharpy?!?!
John Otway
110 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:00:49
Ian Edwards,

As far as Sharp is concerned, "If you lay down with dogs, you get fleas".

I'm typing this while looking at the signed photo on my office wall of him scoring that goal against Liverpool.

Derek Taylor
111 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:01:27
Villa mates tell me Christian Purslow has left the Midlands to return to Merseyside. Hasn't he been with us before?
Barry Hesketh
112 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:02:07
I thought Colin Chong was responsible for overseeing the new stadium?

Derek @105,

He was CEO over the park wasn't he?

Ed Prytherch
113 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:03:28
Buggerlugs is practicing his Frank Sinatra rendition:

And now, the end is near,
And so I face the final curtain…

The slug did it his way alright.

Kieran Kinsella
114 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:05:10
Kenwright is sticking around for a few days as Bungle from Rainbow isn't ready to replace him until Wednesday. But Shandy Andy, Nicola Sturgeon and Charles Ponzi have accepted roles on the board.
Paul Tran
115 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:05:59
Because Tony, when the shit hits the fan, those at the top protect themselves and throw the more 'junior' staff under the bus – at all levels.

No surprise that those who were 'only following orders' have been disposed of with public praise.

Pat Kelly
116 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:07:28
How are you all ? I imagine that you might be feeling a lot like I am: shaken, troubled, let down, worried for the wellbeing of people on all sides of what's been going on, and full of questions.

You, me and all of us gave our love and support to someone who was not telling the truth. Who acted in a way that they themselves felt that they had to resign and step down from a career that they loved. That is a lot to process.

What unites us all now is a desire to heal for the health and wellbeing of everyone. I hope that, as we start this new chapter and get back to a place of warmth and magic that this Club holds for all of us, we can find strength in each other.

Barry Hesketh
117 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:07:44
Luke @107,

More likely that an Italian firm of lawyers had advertised:

"Lost your job in the last three years? Wasn't your fault? Promises made by your employers that weren't kept? Call 0800-810-811 to get help claiming compensation."

Carlo thought "Why not? I didn't get the Champions League bonus this season."

Paul Kossoff
118 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:07:57
More good news. Apparently Moshiri has taken out a bridging loan against the stadium. Surely now if Moshiri does sell because of our massive debt, he will be walking away with nothing. And he's an accountant?
Dermot O'Brien
119 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:09:22
Good news indeed. Funny how these departure statements never include phrases like "useless c**t", "shower of bastards" etc.

Bill writing his own eulogy now, that's going to be a laugh. Boys Pen, mortgaged house, saved club, investor, new stadium, Boys Pen. Never mind no trophies, relegation battles, money spunked on shite players, Kirkby, Green. Dodgy shit in the Virgin Islands.

Tony Abrahams
120 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:10:53
I think it's always been this way, Paul, but we were told Miss Barrett-Baxendale was looking for alternative employment over 18 months ago, and it definitely looked like she was the person who was getting protected then, imo?

I was more interested in all the work that our CEO as done with regards the new stadium, because I wasn't aware she had been so involved, and especially to the levels that Ian mentioned.

Danny O’Neill
121 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:17:29
I just want the club to make an announcement about the future.

I am suspecting that Bill has nailed himself to the desk and they will need my Ridgebacks to coax him out.

On the subject of Sharp, I posted elsewhere, my most memorable goal was him hitting that one in off the post against Watford in the 1984 Cup Final right in front of me stood behind the goal.

Gary Brown
122 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:17:51
What’s the odds Bill gets something like “honourary president” and stays about in all but title?
Rob Halligan
123 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:25:15
Danny, I can just imagine Kenwright acting like warden Norton in The Shawshank Redemption, when the police come to arrest him following money laundering and murders within the prison.

“Taking me away, are you fuck”, says Bill. Just don't put a gun into your mouth, that's all. At least walk away with what very little dignity you've got left!

Karl Masters
124 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:25:34
Let's hope these changes lead to an improvement.

Until I see who comes in to replace them, I'm reserving judgement.

Barry Hesketh
125 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:26:46
According to Paul Joyce about 40 minutes ago, Bill Kenwright is considering his position but will hold talks with Moshiri in the next few days, at the request of the British-Iranian owner.

Does that mean that Bill was going to resign with the rest of them and has been talked out of it? Two bad things if that's true, Bill remains in power and Moshiri remains the owner.

Brian Hennessy
126 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:28:04
Gutted to see these three fantastic Board members go. At least Chairman Bill is still here to steer the ship. How lucky we are to have him.
Neil Copeland
127 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:29:07
Judging by the storm and torrential rain here at the moment in deepest Cheshire, Bill’s reign is coming to and end. The Gods and Heavens have spoken “hail the end of the blue messiah!”

Oh, and it’s all the fans fault - ha! Well it’s cost me at least a few bob to make it happen then. It’s well worth it though…….

Bring it on UTFT!

Christine Foster
128 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:30:59
Barry @119,

It could just mean the final details have not been negotiated yet. You know... "How much do I get to keep quiet?"

Christine Foster
129 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:32:53
I just might, might go to mass on Sunday.

Praise where its due: thanks be to God...

Andy Crooks
130 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:32:57
My God, Ian, you are hard to defend and worse, much, much worse, hard to ignore.

Please, Ian, tell me, just between you and me, that this is a monumental wind-up. As you type this ill-informed, thoroughly unresearched nonsense, it really must be with a sense of mischief and irony.

So that I can go back to reading your stuff, and some of the match stuff is spot on, come clean and accept the joke has run its course.

Christy Ring
131 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:34:22
Ian calling genuine fans on here, who travelled up and down the country to support there club through thick and thin 'a disgrace', is below the belt, because Sharp, who was Kenwright's appointment to try and keep himself in the good books, was only his puppet.

If he had a backbone, he would have resigned back then, or still taken his seat at the game, but no, he came out in support of Bill, who hasn't the decency to even leave now.

Sharp could learn a lot from Reid, Sheedy and Southall who are not afraid to say it as it is.

Ian, I didn't know that Barrett-Baxendale paid for the new stadium and worked for Laing O'Rourke.

Paul Tran
132 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:35:20
Yes, Tony, those words 'we were told' are carrying lots of weight, just as they were back in the day.

She was Kenwright's appointment. I'd expect him to praise her. She will undoubtedly have done some cracking work on the new stadium. She has also, undoubtedly, been CEO of a business that has performed spectacularly poorly.

Like the UK government, these people have got us in a mess, don't know how to get us out of it, and lack the bravery to admit it.

Nearly there…

Denis Richardson
133 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:44:41
And so it begins... checked the calendar to make sure it wasn't 1 April.

Cannon fodder rolled into the fields to distract the oncoming masses whilst the guilty general still cowers in the bunker.

It's over, Kenwright. The sands of time are finally going to run out after nearly 25 bloody years!

Brian Harrison
134 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:45:02
Well, while this is great news, it means we are still left with Moshiri owning the club, and while he still owns the majority of shares, then we haven't moved on at all.

He hired Koeman, Allardyce, Benitez, Lampard and Silva; he has also interfered in player transfers.

An accountant by profession who couldn't keep the club on the right side of financial rules, so how can we move on when even something he is supposed to be proficient at, he even messes that up?

Let's be perfectly honest, he is only here because his boss told him to sell his Arsenal shares and use the money to buy Everton.

He has no idea how a football club should be run and has taken a club with no money who usually finished about 7th-ish to one which is finishing outside the top 10 and, for the last 2 seasons, escaped relegation by the skin of our teeth.

I don't think Dyche was his appointment; probably Thelwell made that decision. So I will only believe change is really here when we see the back of Moshiri.

Paul Tran
135 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:46:44
Just after Mansour took over at City, I did some work there.

While I was waiting in the 'green room', Doyle and Summerbee were hovering around waiting to be noticed by someone old enough to know who they were. I obliged; they were both friendly, funny, charming, etc.

They said they did the meet & greet, gladhanding everyone in the exec boxes. At that moment, I thought that's what Kenwright should be doing, instead of holding back the club he says he loves. I wouldn't let him do that now.

Martin Mason
136 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:49:16
What about the Number One Parasite that feasts on the body of EFC???
Jay Evans
137 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:49:51
Serious question and not a wind-up, I promise.

Has Sharp slagged the fans off? What did he say?

I take the points about him being a yes man, dogs and fleas, etc, but what did he say about the fans specifically?

I'm not defending him as I don't have the knowledge to do so, I just want to know what it was he said exactly as all can recall was him keeping his mouth shut.

Not sure Stubbs or Southall would have kept quiet in Sharp's position obviously.

No more heroes anymore.

Mark Ryan
138 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:51:10
Carl @ 118,

Even if Jimmy Clitheroe, Old Mother Riley, The Crankies and Nigel Ponsonby Smallpiece took over, it would be an improvement of where we have been.

Happy Days are here again!!

Derek Taylor
139 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:53:25
Wasn't Carter 'President Emeritus' at the end of his long term as Chair? It's a purely honorary post awarded for long service!
Paul Burns
140 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:54:06
Not enough until Kenwright goes.

And don't think that the abuse of our fans began in January 2023; Bill Kenwright has been abusing Everton Football Club, its supporters, shareholders, history and tradition for at least two decades.

He is a complete fake and charlatan who fooled too many people for far too long and nearly resulted in the club's total demise, a fate that is still in the balance to this day such is the mess wrought by these people in the amateur shambles that they resided over in every aspect of the way they destroyed the club.

Dennis Stevens
141 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:54:21
There's only one person I want to hear has left the Board. I hope he'll be gone from the Club for good.

Then we need a Board & Club hierarchy that consists of competent professionals. If Moshiri retains an interest, he needs to let the professionals get on with their jobs & restrain himself from interfering.

Daniel A Johnson
142 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:54:35
If a fucking life-ending asteroid hit the earth, the only fucking thing to survive would be Kenwright. I never want to see his smirking fat bloated face in the crowd ever again.

A curse on Everton that will hopefully soon be lifted. The spectre of teary Bill Kenwright is coming to an end.

Ed Prytherch
143 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:55:13
He is holding out for a statue at BMD
Duncan McDine
144 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:56:27
Reports suggest that Kenwright has “done a Saddam”… buying up the entire stock of Cadburys Crunchie bars from the local Poundland and is hiding in a web of tunnels under Goodison Park.
Denis Richardson
145 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:57:51
Duncan 138 - will he also have his breakfast when Tariq Aziz?

(I'll get me coat...)

David Currie
146 Posted 12/06/2023 at 19:59:06
3 changes but the worst one still remains, Why?
Will he ever leave?
Danny O’Neill
147 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:01:50
No one from what I read suggested that Sharp criticised the Everton supporters, Jay.

I don't believe he has or would have.

Neil Copeland
148 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:09:26
Danny and Jay,

Sharp claimed that the supporters reactions were “over the top” after the 2-0 home defeat to West Ham in January. I’m not aware of anything other than that.

Brent Stephens
149 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:11:39
A long shot here but is it possible that Moshiri wanted rid of Kenwright but didn't want to fire him?

So Moshiri decides to fire the other three and see how Kenwright reacts – expecting that Kenwright would then find his own position untenable ("he's sacked my whole board") and resigns? Job done.

Maybe not.

James Marshall
150 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:13:38
47 hours from now... Arise, Sir Lord Prince Chairman and Life President Mr William Kenwright Esq!

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's given some kind of Evertonian peerage and we're stuck with the old bugger forever.

Jay Evans
151 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:14:36
Thanks, Danny - it was the comment from Paul @ 70….

“He said what he said about the fans, nailing all he had to the Owner & Chairman mast.”

I thought there was a specific comment. Apologies I may have misunderstood.

Barry Hesketh
152 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:16:36
James @144
It may turn out that he was one of those names removed from Boris Johnson's list, surely the lying, conniving bloke wouldn't fall for giving another lying, conniving bloke a peerage would he?
Tony Everan
153 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:19:58
Brent, I was thinking something similar, he can't sack Kenwright because of the clause, but he can sack everyone else.

The house of cards trick, all the ones below him removed. Checkmate, a masterstroke.

Martin Mason
154 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:22:55
Whatever position Kenwright is offered should be subject to the most massive protest ever see. The parasite is still trying to hang on, he must have no place at the club.
Brent Stephens
155 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:26:17
Martin,

"Whatever position Kenwright is offered should be subject to the most massive protest ever see."

Offer him the position of Groom of the Stool to the new Chair, whoever that is.

Barry Hesketh
156 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:26:45
BREAKING - Bill Kenwright intended to resign along with his fellow board members but was persuaded to stay on, in the short term at least, whilst replacements are found. [@MaddockMirror]

It's possibly spin from Kenwright, as at least one executive member of the board has to remain in order for the club to continue functioning without shareholders calling for a General Meeting. Or at least how I understand the situation.

Brendan McLaughlin
157 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:28:52
Hopefully the 48-hour delay is just about getting the choreography right and Moshiri is simply ensuring Blue Bill doesn't have to share his final moments in the spotlight with anyone else when the curtain finally comes down for him.
Jay Evans
158 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:28:54
David Maddock talks bum for a living.
Charles Brewer
159 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:34:15
In the grand tradition of the Civil Service, when a bureaucratic disaster is found, the cry goes up: "Deputy Heads Must Roll!!"

This is like a carrier pigeon from the Fuhrerbunker in 1945 landing on Churchill's desk with a note saying "Goebbels, Goering, Admiral Canaris, Himmler, Martin Bormann, General Kurt Student and the entire General staff have all been sacked. Can we call it quits? Yours affectionately, AH"

Just Fuck Off, Kenwright!

David Currie
160 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:35:45
With Danny living in London, I think he should take his 2 dogs round to Bill's place and let's see how he deals with 2 angry Everton dogs. Dogs of War!
Mark Murphy
161 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:37:12
Neil, are you thinking of a different game? We beat West Ham at home didn't we? That Maupay goal?
Brent Stephens
162 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:38:40
David,

"With Danny living in London, I think he should take his 2 dogs round to Bill's place and let's see how he deals with 2 angry Everton dogs".

Ugh. Those fat, slobbering jowls...

Neil Copeland
163 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:40:45
Mark, yes you are right, how could I forget the goal that kept us up!

It must have been the 2-0 away to West Ham. I think his comments were aimed more at the home game against Southampton though.

Barry Hesketh
164 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:40:47
The pantomime villain may still be with us, but why have the other directors resigned? Usually, when people resign they give a reason, such as intolerable working conditions, clash of personalities etc,

Of course they may have been kicked out and were asked to resign out of courtesy for their long and valued service, therefore, they wouldn't have to give a reason.

If they have all resigned due to the owner taking the club in a direction they didn't feel was best for Everton Football Club, then we should be really concerned.

[I'm sorry – it's just the Evertonian in me, every time we think we've moved in the right direction it often turns out differently.]

Stu Darlington
165 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:42:39
He is going, isn't he? Please tell me he's going. He's not just saving his own skin by throwing the others under the bus, is he?

He actually is going, isn't he? I really couldn't stand seeing his smug face any longer.

Pat Kelly
166 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:47:44
Barry, these departures are all a result of the investment, and possible future takeover, by MSP Capital. Moshiri desperately needs cash to finish the new stadium and keeping a grossly incompetent board in place would make it impossible to raise the finance he needs.

It was okay when he (or Usmanov) could bankroll the club but those days are over. Kenwright will be out soon. MSP are calling the shots.

Neil Copeland
167 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:50:40
Pat #166, agreed and I was about to post something similar. Also I would expect MSP to appoint their own board members now until at least they get to grips with the club.
John Raftery
168 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:51:11
Of course he is going.
Anthony Dove
169 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:55:36
Poor old Sharpy basically found himself in the wrong place at the wrong time. He deserves a load of slack, so hopefully everyone will forgive and move on.

Little Miss Dynamite probably did a good job in the community and a few other areas but was out of her depth in
heavier matters. She had to go.

I know nothing about Ingles so no tears there. The big fish though has still to be fried, so once he's in the pan we can all move on.

Christine Foster
170 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:57:02
MSP have been at home games where the board have been absent. (Just how good a look was that? Prospective buyers of the club attending a game and the board don't because they are scared of the fans??)

MSP will know that the best way to get on board with the fans is to clear the decks. They will have seen the protests, tested the waters, and will not want to be tainted in any way by the previous board. Hence they are gone.

I would also say that Kenwright staying on until replacements are found sounds like bullshit to me, you don't get rid of a board without having replacements ready. I still think it's Kenwright trying to delay the inevitable.

John McFarlane Snr
171 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:57:05
Hi all, although as one whose attention is generally immersed on-pitch matters, I readily agree that off-field activities are the lifeblood of any football club. Its success or failure depends on the right people being in the right place at the right time, and it's blatantly obvious that's not the case, and hasn't been for a long long time.

The three people who have stepped down is 75% of the Board. I personally believe that the remaining Director will fall on his own sword, and that things will be changed for the better.

Kevin Molloy
172 Posted 12/06/2023 at 20:57:34
The best case scenario, a la Maddock, is if we can somehow persuade the chap we've been trying to force out for 25 years to actually not go for the next few weeks, so he can help decide who the new board are gonna be. That would be just peachy.

And who knows, the new board might be so pleased with 'the way Bill handled negotiations' they may even persuade him to stay on as a valued consultant.

Danny O’Neill
174 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:04:10
McNulty reporting on the BBC:

"This is just the start' - analysis"

BBC Sport chief football writer Phil McNulty

Everton's boardroom changes were the inevitable consequence of years of bad decision-making that led the club into a second successive near miss with relegation from the Premier League and the complete breakdown of relations with the club's support.

It was a dysfunctional situation that simply could not continue.

Everton's supporters continued to throw their weight behind the team but now only chairman Bill Kenwright remains and the forthcoming announcement on his future must be confirmation he is out along with Denise Barrett-Baxendale, Grant Ingles and Graeme Sharp.

The bottom line is that if, and it is highly unlikely, Kenwright somehow stays then the discontent and protests aimed at Everton's hierarchy will continue. It looks, however, that the increasingly untenable position of the chairman is about to end in his departure.

It is all the result of catastrophic policies at boardroom level and under owner Farhad Moshiri, who has now entered into an exclusivity agreement with MSP Sports Capital for investment in Everton, primarily for the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock.

MSP will want their own representation on the board and what looks like a clean sweep of Everton's boardroom hierarchy is under way,

The outgoing board have also presided over policies that have seen Everton referred to an independent commission by the Premier League over an alleged breach of Financial Fair Play rules - which the club strenuously denies.

Everton had to do something to clear the poisoned air around the club and inject fresh ideas to somehow avoid another season of crisis. This is just the start and it remains to be seen whether more big changes will follow.

Mike Gaynes
175 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:04:16
Barry #156, I know little of corporate governance in the UK, but based on my experience in the US, I speculated the same thing -- that Kenwright was still in place only as a legal placeholder until the rest of the Board is filled in.

Pat #166, agreed.

Mark Ryan
176 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:05:42
Sharp will get no slack from me, not that that will bother him at all.

If he had attended games I'd have no issue with him at all. No issue. The fact he has been absent from home games boils my piss.

By staying away, he's sticking 2 fingers up to all of us and backing Kenwright in his pathetic "We are all in danger" pantomime.

Sharp gets no quarter from me. He's a sycophant. His actions show that. The entire board are pathetic. A lying bunch of cowards who have helped ruin us.

Rob Halligan
177 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:07:23
What's the odds Kenwright offers his resignation around 8:55 am on Thursday morning, just five minutes before next season's fixtures are released?

It's one way to upstage the release of the fixtures……Selfish bastard!!

Christy Ring
178 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:12:03
Sharpy criticised the fans for being over the top and criticising the board especially Denise Barrett-Baxendale, who was doing a great job, after the peaceful sit-in after the Southampton game, and being deprived of going to games after security advice.
Neil Copeland
179 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:13:01
Rob, ha ha probably but I would be more than happy with that mate!
Brian Williams
180 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:13:46
Rob.

As long as he does offer it, mate, that's all that counts.

Kevin Edward
183 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:16:11
Great news! Keep it coming.

I didn't see the word ‘catastrophic' in the statement so they must think waving goodbye to £350m and overseeing the decline of our great club as a fine achievement and as non-commercial.

Our fine fans deserve better, so the new owners hopefully will spot a few maths GCSEs amongst the new appointments.

Ian Bennett
184 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:19:27
"One very famous football club said to me two or three days ago 'whenever we have a problem we say 'what would the Everton board do because they always get it right?'"

Ha, that aged well. Deluded crack pot.

Hugh Jenkins
185 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:21:47
All UK limited companies are obliged to have at least one director in place at any given time and, nowadays, also have a designated "Person with Significant Control" in place. Often in single director cases, they are one and the same.

Consequently, if the other three directors resigned their directorships today, at least one director would be obliged to remain in place.

However, a check on the Companies House website this evening does not show any change in the status of the directors today, so, technically, all 4 remain in place as directors this evening, and will do so until the relevant forms are delivered to Companies House.

Nowadays, this is usually done electronically and will be filed and registered on the Companies House site within minutes. So, I shall keep a lookout tomorrow to see if there is any movement.

If anyone would like to see for themselves, here is a link.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00036624/filing-history

Terry Downes
186 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:22:17
Kenwright been asked to stay? Holy fuck!
Paul Ferry
187 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:29:54
Sorry Jay (Evans) if what I wrote was a tad misleading. I didn't say that he 'insulted' the fans (that's a word from others). However, he was the board's mouthpiece that day and, quite frankly, the fans did not act 'over the top' in my opinion at any rate. Those words, I suspect, were a part of the inner sanctum's conversation where someone would come up with the bright idea of claiming that the CEO was in essence assaulted.

Sharp is part of that. I suspect that he was paid very nicely indeed for the role that was carved out for him which was, as some sort of fan's hero, to send a message to the fans that here is a presence on the board of someone you lot love. Sharp couldn't wait to start his new life as a Kenwright token gesture.

It genuinely grieves me as someone who came of age in 1984-87 to say that I do not have a drop of sympathy for Sharp right now. But if he can now do the right thing and say the right things, I for one will forgive quicker than you can say 'Rotterdam'.

Mike Gaynes
188 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:34:05
Hugh #185, great info, thanks.
Paul Myers
189 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:35:03
Directors' emoluments numbers in next accounts will be interesting as unlikely to be going without a departure payment; just as well we got the John Stones add on money….
Stephen Graham
190 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:35:08
He's going.

"Three members of Everton's board left their roles on Monday and the chairman, Bill Kenwright, is expected to go in the next 48 hours in developments which signal the arrival of fresh investment."

Three Everton board members leave and Bill Kenwright expected to follow

Christy Ring
191 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:37:48
It’s reported Coleman has agreed a one year contract, fully deserved, now for Kenwright to walk please.
Tom Bowers
192 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:40:08
We hoped there would be changes after the last two awful seasons together with some seasons before those and all he wrong decisions that have been made, not entirely by the string of managers we have seen pass through the doors.

Optimistically we have to hope that such changes will benefit the club sooner rather than later.

We have averted a near catastrophe in the last two seasons and one hopes the message has now gotten through to the owners that it cannot go on.

Neil Copeland
193 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:42:16
Paul #187, agreed.

I will always hold Sharp the player in high esteem because he was a central part of a great team that brought great times and memories.

But as a person, he has a lot of bridge-building to do if he cares; if not, fuck him!

Andrew Keatley
194 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:43:08
Graeme Sharp may have had his hands tied by Kenwright, but being complicit in the smoke-and-mirrors headlock story that Kenwright tried to stage-manage will be hard to live down. The whole thing was a horrendous over-reaction – and the lack of evidence and strange protocol that followed indicates that it was entirely fabricated.

The board betrayed the Everton fan-base – who it is their chief concern to support and serve – in favour of their own cowardly narrative. It would seem to me that Sharp either lacks intelligence or integrity and that, when push came to shove, he stayed loyal to BK rather than the fans.

Legacies are built on such moments; if he'd turned his back on the board, I think he would have been elevated to standalone legend status in the eyes of the average fan. As it is, he's now got a real stench on him.

Ernie Baywood
195 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:44:04
Presumably the announcement about the future of the Chairman is along similar lines... except Kenwright gets his own release so as not to share the moment with others.

Baited breath time.

There had to be changes. That was always the first step. But we now go into the unknown, which is a bit scary. We're an unstable mess.

Neil Copeland
196 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:48:12
Will Chairman Bill now become lifelong Honorary President Bill?…….or do we simply refer to him as the Messiah or Saviour?
Neil Copeland
197 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:50:47
Ernie #195, hopefully we are actually less unstable than we were before these changes.

As you say though, scary times.

Philip Bunting
198 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:53:41
Well... that's the Stones money gone in a flash to pay these 3 off and then some. Over the coming years, this should present itself as the best pound ever spent by the club.

I for one wish Sharp well and hope he is welcomed back in the future. He was clearly out of his depth at boardroom level on this occasion. If that had been Big Nev in Sharpies boots at boardroom level, it would never have ended as it did.

Passive, dismissive and manipulated by Bullshit Bill. Best of luck to you, Sharpie...

Mark Murphy
199 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:55:24
Neil, yes, that would make sense. The West Ham away was the next game after Southampton home.

I remember noting that the atmosphere was flatter than at any time since Rafa's days. That was the start of the end for this board. UTFT

Paul [The Esk]
200 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:56:05
The job is not yet complete, not by a long chalk, however Kenwright will depart on Wednesday.

To everyone at ToffeeWeb (and I know hundreds of Blues did their part too) but from me thank you for all your support over the years. Above all else, thanks for the personal support.

Tony Everan
201 Posted 12/06/2023 at 21:58:09
Great news Paul, let’s hope there are no last minute hitches. Seeing is believing!
David West
202 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:00:22
Haven't heard a word about the shit we are left with or shall I say they have left behind.

No apologies? These people think they have been doing a good job for years.

Yes, Moshiri wields all the power, but if you were an Evertonian and this was going on on your watch, would you continue?

If you were a half-decent CEO, finance officer, or director, you would have resigned after last season's shambles. That is unless you were complicit or to blame.

It's a start, but it will count for nothing if they are not replaced by professional sporting executives, with proven track records and expertise in the field.

I'm usually optimistic on the playing side of things, madness I know, but I'm not so optimistic that Moshiri can make the right appointments.

I hope that it's MSP who are advising and not Bill.

Bill was never going to go with the rest. He needs his own episode, his own limelight, his own theatre-managed exit.
He couldn't have the people he appointed stealing his spotlight.

Hurry Bill. The final curtain is coming down on the worst show you ever put on!

Michael Kenrick
203 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:09:53
Thanks, Hugh @185.

I had not noticed that "Persons with Significant Control" category before in my browsing... What do you make of the fact that it lists Moshiri and not Kenwright or any other director?

Am I naïve in thinking that his name being there since 2016 (and not that of a certain Uzbeki fellow) could help to deflect that lingering claim?

David West
204 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:13:52
Paul the Esk. Thank you for all your insights, explanations & thorough investigation work.

I, and I know many Blues, would be in the dark on many issues if it wasn't for your passion and dedication to our club.

You definitely deserve to get the plinth at new stadium that Bill had earmarked for his statue.

Soren Moyer
205 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:14:28
Someone drag him out! We might need a few bouncers to keep him away from the club's perimeter!.
Don Alexander
206 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:16:12
An Ode To Departing Toe-Rags

And it's a Grand Old Team to play with,
And it's a Grand Old team to own,
But when you know you're history,
It's enough to make your arse go worrrrrrrrr!!
But we don't care what the fans all say,
Cos why the fuck would we care?
Because we always know,
That we're gonna get more dough,
Even when us Everton fuckers ain't there!

Nick Page
207 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:19:50
Thanks for all your hard work and brilliant financial analysis, Paul. It's been a long (long) walk but it's looking like he's finally gone. The biggest curse our club has ever seen.

Well done mate, and to everyone over the years who wouldn't rest until he was gone, Colin F, KEOIC et al., all the best!!! 👏👏

Hugh Jenkins
208 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:21:42
Michael (203) the "Person with significant control" category is a relatively new requirement being introduced on 6 April 2016 as part of the Small Business, Enterprise and Employment Act 2015.

In most small private companies that are not quoted on any stock exchange (called "Close companies"), the shareholders, directors and persons with significant control tend to be the same person or persons.

The criteria for being designated as a PSC is one of two tests, relating to the size of a personal shareholding and whether they have the right to hire and / or fire the directors of the company.

This is the reason why Moshri is shown as the PSC - despite the fact that he is not a member of the board. He owns over 75% of the issued share capital of the company, so clearly has the right to hire and fire any of the directors, he is therfore, ipso facto the PSC for Everton Football Club Company Limited.

Neil Copeland
209 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:23:24
Paul #200, thanks for the brilliant hard work and dedication you show. Better times ahead.

UTFT 💙

Bill Watson
211 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:26:24
Andrew #194,

I totally agree. Sharp was little more than a nodding dog, placed on the board in an attempt to appease the fans.

He has well and truly destroyed any legend status (IMO a dubious label to start with) he may have had and I cannot see any way back for him.

Mick Davies
212 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:29:08
Ian Edwards is either a closet kopite, or believes everything he reads in The Sun. He thinks Denise put £500M into the building of a stadium, and Sharp is still a legend!

Cahill, Baines, Coleman, Southall etc are legends; they have not insulted the thousands of loyal and magnificent supporters, like Danny O'Neill and Rob Halligan, who travel everywhere in support of our multi-millionaire half-arsed present team, but don't get the recognition that the board get from the likes of you, Ian!

Ian Edwards
213 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:31:12
Bill @211,

Sharp was part of our best-ever team. Won trophies and scored goals. He is a legend and always will be.

I suspect those that criticise him are the under-30 "me now, fuck you" generation that never even saw him play.

Alan Corken
214 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:31:13
So Denise, Grant and Graeme have gone, ok that's nice, let's hope that their replacements are good at the old backroom stuff. And maybe Billy boy will go too, well that wouldn't that be just swell? Let's face it he has been around far too long.
What difference, will any of this make? Apart from giving the usual snarling swivel eyed loons on this forum, something to masticate on, probably very little. The only show in town is Moshiri, he has all the power, as has been exquisitely demonstrated by his cursory dissolution of the current board.
He has been a disaster who has failed the club again and again. What has he been up to? Where is he taking us? These issues should be the focus of fans concern, everything else, including today's happenings are a diversion, a mere side show. I suspect largely as a sop to the unhinged, short sighted 'sack the board' zealots.
Ian Riley
215 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:32:34
Thank you for your service and hard work. These people did their jobs and are accountable to the owner. CEOs only stay short periods like finance directors. Feel for sharpy as he thought he could make a difference to the club in that role. This is probably how it was sold to him. They all have the club at heart and wanted success.

Perhaps new investment equals a new start. All I care about is being a premiership club May 31st 2024. The new stadium means bigger gate receipts, from sponsors and corporate hospitality. To get that go and study the model used at the Emirates stadium. The Everton stadium is in a perfect location for concerts and other sporting events. To grow we must choose wisely our next CEO and directors. Business over sentiment comes to mind. Hopefully, we can move forward. Please remember such changes brings no guarantees.

Mr kenwright it's time to take a rest and let Everton start a new journey.

Ian Edwards
216 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:34:01
Newspaper headline tomorrow: "Everton in chaos".

You got what you wanted. Heads on platters with no idea as to who replaces them. Mob rule.

Barry Hesketh
217 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:34:32
All this talk of legends had me thinking as to the reason why Kevin Ratcliffe is rarely mentioned.

As he was captain of the legendary '80s team, you would think he would get more of a mention. He lifted two titles, an FA Cup and our only European trophy.

He was always amongst my favourite players; he made his debut at Old Trafford in 1980 and went on to become one of the toughest yet elegant players Goodison has ever seen.

Bill Gall
218 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:34:47
Well three have gone but the main problem remains… and it is not Bill Kenwright. It is the one who I have been saying for months is the problem and that is the owner, Farhad Moshiri, for allowing most of all Kenwright to remain as Chairman from when he became owner.

Anthony #169,

Little Miss Dynamite probably did a good job in the community and a few other areas but was out of her depth in heavier matters.

Memo from club, 26 July 2019:

Denise Barrett-Baxendale will oversee the work of Stadium Development Director Colin Chong and take responsibility for the new Stadium Project including the delivery of a community-led legacy at Goodison Park.

Yes, as listed as CEO of Everton FC Co Ltd she should have been stronger but, with a 4 person board, with Kenwright having the deciding vote in a split decision, the blame once again goes to Moshiri for not having a stronger board.

Barry Hesketh
219 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:36:07
Ian @216,

I'm sorry mate, but you're continuing to annoy and amuse in equal measure. Perhaps, you would have preferred "Everton relegated!" as the headline two weeks ago?

Paul Ferry
220 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:45:33
What an absurd post, Ian @213, that somehow being there in 1984-87 implies that you will not criticise Sharp.

Au contraire, Ian, that might well make someone more likely to criticise Sharp because they feel deeply let down by him. I'm sure you understand that being a hero of Howard's Way does not make someone, anyone, unconditionally a hero beyond reproach.

So, I'm one little exception to your absurd 'I suspect'; I am 59 and am deeply critical of Sharp.

And have a bit more respect for those you label "the "under-30 me now fuck you" generation that never even saw him play', who are a large part of our magnificent support.

Andy Crooks
221 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:48:08
Sharp was a very fine player who became a lickspittle.

#216, think before you click submit, because I very much doubt that "deranged" is the word you are looking for as a response to your attention seeking.

Brent Stephens
222 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:49:29
#213

"I suspect those that criticise him are the under 30 me now fuck you generation that never even saw him play."

Not true in my case.

Brian Denton
224 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:55:18
Paul Ferry (220) spot on.
Dave Lynch
225 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:56:15
Of course Bill will go... but he wants to hog the headlines, he'll go on his own with no distractions.

In typical theatre teary style so all the attention is on him.

Bill Watson
226 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:58:03
Ian #213,

I'm a shade over 30 as my first match was in September 1958 and I've seen every Everton No 9 or, in some cases, No 10 since then.

I could list them all but Royle, Latchford, Lineker, Lukaku, Campbell, Cottee and Vernon were all better finishers than Sharp.

David West
228 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:59:05
Who cares if Sharp was a great goal-scorer. Yes great. One of our finest.

Yet deserves no place on the board.

What exactly did hid appointment change or improve?

Shall we get Big Dunk to lay the grass in the new stadium? Cahill to do the plastering? Baines banging the bricks up? Because they are Evertonians ??

No they have no experience of the job. No track record.

If we did, we would say they'd done a poor job, just like Sharp as a director.

We need the best people — not the best Evertonians!!!

Philip Bunting
229 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:59:19
To paraphrase Kenwright, he would like to thank them for the great work that they have done.

Herein lies the problem – is he really serious? Under their stewardship, plus Bill's of course, we are financially fucked, under investigation, being sued by an ex-manager, selling the silverware to buy paper plates... We have fought two relegation battles and have a first-team squad with no soul.

Thanks, Bill – ya nutjob.

Barry Hesketh
230 Posted 12/06/2023 at 22:59:59
As somebody who saw Sharp play in most of the games during that period of time, I haven't changed my mind, 4½ months on from when I posted this on TW.

“It was a sad day for the club,” Sharp ­admitted, still struggling to come to terms with effectively being banned from watching a side in which he is second only to Dixie Dean as Everton's all-time leading scorer.

“It's still uncertain whether we will get the go-ahead to attend the next home game against Arsenal on February 4. No one could ever have envisaged things getting to this state where you are ­actually in physical danger.

“I don't want to miss games, Everton is in my blood. Of course, fans can have their say and I can ­understand the frustrations, but some of the protests have gone over the top.

“For instance, no one works harder than Denise. In addition to the day-to-day running of the club, she is also working tirelessly on the new stadium. For her to be targeted is so unfair.” Source – Daily Mirror

Sorry, Graeme, you gave me some of the greatest moments watching Everton FC, but I hold you in a little less esteem than I used to.

Mark Ryan
235 Posted 12/06/2023 at 23:11:34
Graeme Sharp can now tell us all why he has failed to show up at Goodison now he is no longer on a Director's gagging order.

He won't of course. We are pond life to him. See ya, Sharpie!

Ian Pilkington
236 Posted 12/06/2023 at 23:12:39
Kenwright is deluded enough to try and get a deal with Moshiri to be named Honorary President with a box in the new stadium.

Instead, it must be made clear that he will have all connection with the club severed forthwith, never visit Goodison again and never visit the new stadium – a relatively lenient sentence for the man who has single-handedly ruined our club over the last quarter of a century.

Ironic that the news of the departure of the three board members was overshadowed by City's treble celebrations in Manchester.

If the lying, egoistic, greedy charlatan had sold out years ago when he almost certainly had the opportunity, perhaps it could have been us celebrating instead of City's fans.

Danny O’Neill
237 Posted 12/06/2023 at 23:19:33
Strange one that, Ian @213.

I think most, myself included, recognise what a great player Sharp was in a very successful Everton team.

I am 51 and was a season ticket holder at the time as well as following the blues around the country.

I think it's important to differentiate between Sharp the player and Sharp the passive, non-communicative, compliant board member who went along with the narrative that slated and accused the Everton supporters.

He made his bed. He has damaged his reputation, which genuinely upsets and disappoints me.

John Keating
238 Posted 12/06/2023 at 23:23:14
Well I'm definitely not under 30 and part of the apparent “fuck you generation”.

My hero was Alex Young, my favourite team was the 1963 team. Obviously I also witnessed the great 1970 team and the '80s.

All the above being the case and classing myself as a good an Evertonian as anyone, I would like to say to Graeme Sharp:

You are a parasitic prick and if you never darken the doors of Everton Football Club again, then I'll be happy. The charlatan threw his hand, willingly, in with Kenwright. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

And anyone who slags off fellow Evertonians about caring for and wanting the best for the Club can do one too!

Mike Hughes
239 Posted 12/06/2023 at 23:31:48
I’ve been off TW this year due to Everton-related Complex PTSD. (There’s only so much a man can take after 50+ years of this).

This cull is not before time.

Good riddance.

Incompetents and parasites.

The beginning of the end of the Shit Show.

I refer to my comments #5 back in December on Barrett-Baxendale’s “strategic review”.

Paul Birmingham
241 Posted 12/06/2023 at 23:33:58
The start of better times hopefully or Everton FC.

I'm not gonna rake up 40 years plus of dross but this hopefully can be a new starting point for Everton FC.

No big expectations based on all relevant factual finance and football permutations but hopefully before the start of next season Everton will start the new season as a club with no divides and a clear line of sight on and off the park.

Assuming Kenwright is removed or sacked by Wednesday, the new era must start ASAP with a very tough and slow rebuild of Everton FC over the next 5 years if not more.

Fuck, now to run and manage Everton FC properly as a football club coupled with the unprecedented force of nature – Evertonians… anything could happen.

UTFTs!

Paul Kossoff
242 Posted 12/06/2023 at 23:39:09
Steve 34.

Let's hope it's not for whom the bell tolls, because that would be the end for Bell, the bell end so to speak, and we don't want another cock up.

Paul Birmingham
243 Posted 12/06/2023 at 23:40:19
With the last board was there ever a plan other than a Bezzy mates culture, piss down the same pot and wonder why nothing changed?

There's decades to make up but with Evertonians' support, the new era can start with genuine belief once the cull of the board and chairman is completed.

It's the start of the new beginning for Everton FC.
UTFTs!

Paul Kossoff
244 Posted 12/06/2023 at 23:44:11
Christian Purslow just left Villa, get him in, and he sacked Gerard, so what's not to like?
Sam Hoare
246 Posted 12/06/2023 at 00:08:46
Getting rid of the rot is the easy bit. Getting good people in is the harder bit.

Purslow could be a decent addition, a slightly chequered time at Villa but did more good things than bad things I'd say.

David Morgan
247 Posted 13/06/2023 at 00:29:22
Kevin Molloy @31 and everyone else having a go for that matter.

I guess being an internet troll doesn't qualify you to turn on Graeme Sharp. Absolute no loyalty to a club legend, anyone calling him out is an absolute scumbag imo.

What power do you think he actually had...? And turning on the easy target of a woman, typical sexist stupidity.

The finance director, the scouts, Bill Kenwright and some of the players are to blame. Well done for people who actually stand up for others, there's too much hate in this forum. Spin in a circle and point your finger at everyone... grow up.

Dupont Koo
248 Posted 13/06/2023 at 00:32:13
Great. Now it's time to get the new Board Members in and give a darn budget (notwithstanding it will be pennies) to Thelwell & Dyche for recruitment!

No more King's Dock, Arteta Money and Destination Kirby bullshit!!!

Colin Glassar
249 Posted 13/06/2023 at 00:36:47
So Kenwright's staying on to steady the ship until someone with a modicum of competence takes over? I wouldn't be surprised if this “search” takes a year or two.

I wonder if the phantom headlocker replaces Denise on the board?

Pete Clarke
250 Posted 12/06/2023 at 00:43:42
This board was hand-picked and assembled by the most incompetent chairman in our history. He wanted yes-people next to him and foolishly, Moshiri allowed him to do this.

They may well have tried their best and given their all under difficult circumstances but just one look at where the club finished, the state of the finances, and the shambles of a team should tell it all. They were simply unqualified and not good enough to be running a football club and did everything Bill told them to. Incompetence and ignorance of their core duties.

We don't need lies or apologies but just straightforward words that they tried their best. You can't sugarcoat failure like this!

In the case of Graeme Sharp, he knew what he was getting into because Bill had already banished us supporters from having our say.

I'll go back to a tour in Holland in 1983-84 when we met players in and around Dordrecht. Sharp didn't want to mix. He didn't want to know us supporters.

Some years later, with my brother in Melbourne, he did not want to talk to the lads who had travelled big distances to watch them, so it's no surprise he took the big money from Bill and did what he was told. He sold himself.

He's no legend. Joe Royle is a legend.

Ian Edwards. People hide behind this modern-day bullying issue and it seems like you take every chance you get to do this once you have spouted some crap.

Everton is in our blood. It takes over our lives to a certain degree so supporters are full of passion when it comes to discussing the pros and cons of the club. I get it that we are all guilty of overstating things with the use of strong words, but for fuck's sake! You honestly sound like you about 12 years of age so stick to your football posts where you have made some good posts.

There is simply no defending what this owner, chairman and board have done. Luck and great support has kept us up two seasons running and if we had gone down then it could have been all over for this club.

Good news is finally coming our way and hopefully we can start seeing the light at the end of a very long dark tunnel with Kenwright hopefully banished from our club forever.

Bob Parrington
252 Posted 13/06/2023 at 01:47:43
About time, too! Hallelujah! Now let's move on. Bill out within the 48 hours.

Let's hope they get it right this time.

Ed Prytherch
253 Posted 13/06/2023 at 02:00:09
How did Rex Makin get into this? I think that I know what his profession was but I would like to know the Everton or Kenwright connection.
Jack Convery
254 Posted 13/06/2023 at 02:42:14
Was the statement released before the Southampton game, singling the fans out as a bunch of yobs, signed off by the board? If so, Graeme Sharp, who I loved as a player was complicit in throwing me, a fan of 60-plus years, and 1000s of other Evertonians under the proverbial bus.

If it was signed off by the board, he should have refused to be involved and realised enough is enough and resigned on the spot. Even if he wasn't party to it, he should have resigned as it was a step too far and only a fool would fail to realise that. He didn't and hence the anger towards him.

As for Blue Bill, roll on the next 48 hours. No honourary titles, he can relax and reflect on all those good times. It should take all of 2 minutes.

Mick Davies
255 Posted 13/06/2023 at 03:27:31
Barry @ 217,

All this talk of legends had me thinking as to the reason why Kevin Ratcliffe is rarely mentioned.

Probably since he knocked us out of the cup with Shrewsbury.

Darragh Farrell
256 Posted 13/06/2023 at 03:29:57
I had to look up Rex Makin, which led me down the wormhole of the Cameo murder case, fascinating stuff. Always an education on here.
Darryl Ritchie
257 Posted 13/06/2023 at 03:38:22
Three, possibly 4, out. Who would choose to replace them? Who is actually responsible to appoint them? Moshiri?
Ernie Baywood
258 Posted 13/06/2023 at 04:07:42
Can anyone figure out what "My relationship with Denise has been known as one of the closest in football" actually means?

How would it be 'known' as 'one of the closest'?

It's a very weird superlative.

I can't make any sense of what that actually means and why it would be written.

Eric Myles
260 Posted 13/06/2023 at 04:39:31
Hopefully Chairman Bill will take his picture on the Everton Timeline with him as a souvenir.
John Wignall
261 Posted 13/06/2023 at 06:22:12
They have got to get the next appointments right. We couldn't have carried on with the last board. But I wouldn't count on Moshiri with his track record.
Mark Murphy
262 Posted 13/06/2023 at 06:43:16
Paul (the Esk) is there a TTB special planned? I’d love to hear George and Andy’s reactions…. UTFT
Christine Foster
263 Posted 13/06/2023 at 06:59:31
Like the last game of the season, all that I feel is relief, not joy, not yet. The staggering years where the club staggered from one crisis to another. We finally will have one of his "good times" as we begin anew once more.

The real benefit to come from all of this is a unified fan base in tune with the board and the owners all pulling in one direction. I am hoping after 20 years I will now be able to say I support my club on and off the field.

I hope I see clarity of a shared vision, shared desire and delight in all our achievements. Trust is often said to be hard won and easily lost. Honesty is a cornerstone of trust, communication the key… we are almost there.

Colin Glassar
264 Posted 13/06/2023 at 07:00:23
Ernie 258, she’s known to be quite handy in tight situations.
Mal van Schaick
266 Posted 13/06/2023 at 07:14:18
It's a start with these three taking the rap, but knowing how Moshiri and Kenwright work, they will shift the blame on to anyone else but themselves.

I reckon Sharpie would have left of his own accord, given the embarrassing lack of connection of the board with the fans.

Eddie Dunn
268 Posted 13/06/2023 at 07:43:34
Pleased to hear of the three leaving. We shall never know what footballing insights Sharp gave to our Board. Don't really know what Denise did, other than Bill and Graeme saying that she worked so tirelessly. Was Ingles employed during the period that the Premier League are investigating?

So much we don't know. I wonder if Bill has a shower room full of documents?

Sharp was a big part of our great '80s team and I will always love him for that. Unfortunately he liked Bill's dollar and he chose the heirarchy over the fans.

Of course Bill has cast his spell over many celebrity Everton fans. He also inspired loyalty from other good people who worked for the club.

In fairness, only people like Paul the Esk have enabled us lowly fans any insight into the cozy, old boy's club that Bill built. Cronyism, psychofants, and folks with their noses in the trough.

A fanbase that was taken for granted and finally insulted. Kenwright's kingdom is in tatters.

I hope that his name is not incorporated anywhere except the urinals in the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock.

Danny O’Neill
269 Posted 13/06/2023 at 07:54:21
David @247 scumbags? Let's not go there. Maybe I'm taking it out of context, so feel free to come back at me.

Challenge opinion, discuss, debate, but let's not slate fellow supporters.

Sharp is being judged on this thread for his performance and compliance on a failing board that ultimately failed. Not as Sharp the footballer we all watched and enjoyed bring us success.

As mentioned, Ian's views on football can often be thoughtful. I don't think anyone minds a different viewpoint. Like everyone who contributes, welcomed and give food for thought. We all often have a different view of the game and Everton, but I would draw a line at calling fellow Everton supporters scumbags and disgraceful. That's stepping over a line just because of a different view and opinion.

I get shouted at on a near daily basis from Everton family and friends. But we don't fall out. You know who you are. Brian!!

Interesting recollection Pete @250. I haven't met many Everton players in the flesh. George Wood by the players' entrance on my first visit to Goodison that I remember. I've still got the photo somewhere, but the 70s clothes and haircut look embarrassing, so I don't roll it out often. Terry Darracott on my trials at Bellefield, although he was a coach by then. Very nice person, as was the head of youth development back then. I think it was Ray Hall? I had a brush with Neville Southall when we ran on the pitch at Anfield at a derby. I vaguely remember and when I say a brush, He basically swatted me out of the way and put me on my arse as he wanted to get down the tunnel!! I don't for one minute believe this to be the most intelligent thing to do, but we started ripping up the turf and stamping it back into the ground. We were young.

The word legend is used too often in the football vernacular. As Joe Royle said, Duncan Ferguson was in danger of becoming a legend before he became a player.

Pele was a legend. Beckenbauer a legend. Cruyff a legend. Maradona a legend. Messi a legend. Kevin Sheedy walks on water.

The rest are good or great players.

Colin, steady the ship?! This now past board could sink a barge on a calm watered canal.

As for the the under 30s, that should read the under 37s. As of next season, that is how long it will have been since we last won a league title. That's the bar for me. The under 37s. I have nothing but respect. They have had nothing. But they are still there believing. Hopefully the next chapter will give them just reward and make me content that we get our 10th league title, 6th FA Cup, another European trophy. And for god's sake, finally win the League Cup.

It's about the future now. Many personal messages last night to fellow Evertonians and family. The mood is optimistic. We have to seize the opportunity we have in front of us.

If reports are to be believed, the new board is planned. Two members from MSP. Founding members, so from the top of the business. And the two local Evertonian businessmen who have chipped in with investment.

Leaving Goodison is going to be emotional to say they least.

But Bramley Moore Dock is rising on the banks of the Mersey.

Believe. We've waited long enough. Maybe, just maybe, we can get Nil Satis Nisi Optimum back.

A bit of a ramble, but change is happening. Spirit. Forever.

Lee Courtliff
270 Posted 13/06/2023 at 07:56:11
Danny, even though I came along after the '80s glory, I still remember seeing Kevin Richardson play for Arsenal, Villa and Coventry. He was a good player well into his 30s at Premier League level.

I always think if we'd kept him he would have really established himself after the injury to Bracewell and the ageing of Peter Reid.

Another one that 'got away'.

Tony Abrahams
271 Posted 13/06/2023 at 07:56:12
Philip @229, that's exactly my feelings with regards Bill Kenwright. If he's serious then it's no wonder Everton have gone so long without a trophy, but if he's not being serious, then he's taking the piss and treating everyone with contempt, and this is why I've often thought that Chairman Bill, might just be a Liverpudlian.

I'm aware he can't slag the outgoing board, especially because of the way they have been so staunch towards him, but these are the words of a condescending bastard, a deceitfully sick individual, who has only survived by constantly using nepotism and telling lies, imo.

A great board? Everyone in football knows how close me and Denise are?

Everyone in football knows how much of an irrelevance Everton Football Club has become, except for the thousands of great and loyal Evertonians who deserve so much better. Hopefully things are finally going to change for the better.

David Bromwell
272 Posted 13/06/2023 at 07:57:07
What a terrible day, okay we all know that changes had to be made, but with immediate effect?

I'm not concerned about Graeme Sharp, as he had no obvious duties, but the other two had major positions in a business which is already in turmoil. As usual, there doesn't appear to be any clear way forward and we continue to go from one crisis to another.

To make matters worse, it seems that Ancelotti is going to sue us. Presumably he has forgotten that he and his son were rewarded handsomely and he left as soon as he got a better offer.

I think it's another very sad day for our once-great club, we are a total embarrassment.

Gary Brown
273 Posted 13/06/2023 at 08:00:15
David - whilst the beauty of freedom is expression, it’s posts like yours that make me understand why modern society is going backwards. Decades of failure, unsustainable debt…..and your worry is a court case we know nothing about but was likely avoidable had we sacked the buffoons in charge long ago.
Danny O’Neill
274 Posted 13/06/2023 at 08:10:32
Lee,

Richardson was a very good player. He went on to win the league with Arsenal and played more regularly after leaving Everton.

I think most of us are pleased that change is coming. But we are also cautious. I hope the new regime can take that on board in their approach.

We have been hurt, both with false dawns and accusations by those who held the keys to our club.

The sun is shining this morning. A new dawn. We move on and get this club back to being able to compete. That's all we ask. If we compete, the trophies and Europe will follow.

And Lee, you still need to meet up at a match.

Christy Ring
275 Posted 13/06/2023 at 08:11:57
Danny, just wondering why you missed out on great leader "Howard's Way"? Hope it was an oversight

Ian, I reckon most fans on here saw Sharp play, including myself, and he'll have to live with the fact that he let the fans who adored him down badly by backing Kenwright and calling them out.

Tony Graham
276 Posted 13/06/2023 at 08:20:24
Our owner picks the next chairman, if reports are to be believed.

Bill is not resigning and is staying pending a new man. He really has got something on Moshiri. Who will this clown saddle us with?

Joe McMahon
277 Posted 13/06/2023 at 08:27:39
Lee, I echo what Danny has stated, Kevin Richardson was a very good player and was unfortunate in many ways as Everton had sublime midfielders that Kevin was up against for a first-team place. I was sad to see him go.

And yes, he was a success at Arsenal and Villa, so much that Atkinson took him to Coventry also. He won the league with the Gunners and the League Cup with Villa.

Barry Hesketh
278 Posted 13/06/2023 at 08:27:49
We don't know what Ancelotti is asking his lawyers to get, because it's not yet clear; however, the fact that any employee can leave the club in the lurch and can still have grounds to sue, because the club hasn't managed to cover itself for all possible eventualities, is one of the main reasons that the board had to go.

How many occasions has the club lost money on poor deals which have mostly protected the employee, rather than the employer?

Gentleman's agreements are fine in principle, but in this day and age and in this sport, they count for little as Everton has found to its cost on too many occasions, it's nice to be nice, but being nice in modern football can prove to be very costly.

The board hasn't protected the club, either due to ignorance or incompetence or both, but the new people have to be less concerned about public relations and more focused on hard-nosed business, they can still try to be nice, but not to the extent that they end up looking foolish.

Barry Hesketh
279 Posted 13/06/2023 at 08:42:22
Paul the Esk raises some pertinent questions in his latest publication.

Immediate resignation of Everton directors opens the door to change

Brian Murray
280 Posted 13/06/2023 at 08:51:56
Let's hope Paul the Esk is bang on the money and it's just a matter of hours away we can breathe and welcome the new board and chairman. Onwards and upwards
Michael Lynch
281 Posted 13/06/2023 at 08:52:33
The gutter press having a field day, as you'd expect. Not just The Guardian relishing every little morsel of dirt they can dig up about us, but also the Daily Mail headlining "Chaos at Everton" as directors resign and Carlo sues us (for what?). Funny, where we see light at the end of the tunnel with the resignations, journos present it as 'chaos'.

Anyway, the optimist in me sees this as – finally – the opportunity to start rebuilding our club as a sustainable, well-run, community-based, successful icon of the sport. Everything depends on what happens over the next few weeks.

Meanwhile, what the feck do we do with Gbamin, Alli and Gomes? Three ridiculously expensive players who we currently can't even give away. Just looking at those three, who except Chairman Billy Bollocks could keep a straight face when claiming "This has been a great board"?

Mark Ryan
282 Posted 13/06/2023 at 09:19:54
What I would like the press to try and dig into are these 3 questions:

1) Why were the board absent?
2) Was there a real and credible threat to their safety and if so what have the Police and the club done about it?
3) Who told them to stay away?

The Police? Surely not…

John Williams
283 Posted 13/06/2023 at 09:20:40
Michael,

I think we can all argue about the contracts given to these 3 players, but do we know all the facts?

The Dele Alli transfer was a strange one. Did it have something to do with the Richarlison transfer? Will we ever know?

Gnomes was a decent player, maybe too slow for the Premier League, certainly not a player we needed to make a tackle, but played alongside a striker?

Gbamin, well nearly everyone was singing his praises when he arrived, but the injuries finished him.

When we talk about injuries, you have to put a question mark against Patterson, far too many injuries for a young player who hasn't had that many games at the top level.

Jerome Shields
284 Posted 13/06/2023 at 09:21:00
Brendan #41,

You may not be a million miles from the truth. His shares in Everton do put validity to Kenwright staying on the Board.

It was rumoured in April that Kenwright had told the other members of the Board that they could stay on with the MSP deal appearing to have faltered. If there is a chance that Kenwright can stay on in any capacity, he will be pushing it. He does not take the Fans under his notice one iota.

David Peate
285 Posted 13/06/2023 at 09:27:56
283 comments and counting. Can't wait to see how many arise when Chairman Mao succumbs.
Andy Crooks
286 Posted 13/06/2023 at 09:30:39
David @ 247, how wonderful that you should call out sexism with such a brilliantly sexist post.

"The easy target of a woman"

Comedy gold, thank you!

Brian Harrison
287 Posted 13/06/2023 at 09:36:22
So 3 board members resign and yet no word from the owner? We survived relegation for the 2nd consecutive season under this owner's watch and still no word from him.

The manager was asked over a week ago, Did he know what his budget was? He said he didn't, yet nothing from our owner.

As I said in an earlier post, this club will not move on till Moshiri has gone from this club. Let's remember how he thought contacting Jim White on TalkSport was the way he communicated with fans.

The late Sir John Moores must be turning in his grave at what has been going on since this stupid Iranian accountant and his boss bought into our club.

So I will leave the rejoicing of the board resigning until the prime reason this club is in such a mess has gone.

Andy Walker
288 Posted 13/06/2023 at 09:40:02
Moshiri is the problem much more so than the broad.

It was Moshiri who wanted Benitez, Moshiri who sanctioned Benitez selling Digne, and getting rid of our DoF only for Moshiri to sack Benitez 2 weeks later. We'd have had Moyes return as manager a couple of years ago if it wasn't for Moshiri and we'd never have been in the shit we've been in for the last 2 seasons.

Sacking the board but retaining Moshiri will solve nothing. Moshiri needs to go, but even if he does we will still have huge problems now thanks to Moshiri's legacy. Whether a new board could overcome them is doubtful.

As for the treatment of Sharpy by some of the fans, it's shameful.

Geoff Lambert
289 Posted 13/06/2023 at 09:45:09
Okay, it was me; I only had her in a headlock for long enough to tell her "I will be back". In true Arni style.
Barry Hesketh
290 Posted 13/06/2023 at 09:51:00
Andy @288

I think many Evertonians would broadly agree with you, but your final sentence says to me that you might be a Kenwright apologist and would like to blame the fans and the owner for our current mess, rather than anybody connected to Bill. Sharp is a big bloke; I'm sure he can handle the criticism.

As an aside, if your assertions are correct about the meddling of the owner, what were Denise, Bill and company doing to help prevent that catastrophic interference? Were they acting in the best interests of the club?

And the argument that they were only doing as they were instructed to do just doesn't wash as they were in their positions precisely to prevent bad things from happening. They were the firewall that should have protected the club; if they were unable to do that, then they should have walked many moons ago.

Tony Shelby
291 Posted 13/06/2023 at 09:59:32
Well, this is what most of you have been asking for. I hope you were all right (genuinely).

My concern is that it still appears to be Moshiri's train set. That's the same Moshiri that has overseen the club since 2016 (what a fucking awful year that was), allowed the now departing board to be assembled, and to (apparently) run Everton on his behalf on a day-by-day basis.

As for some of the comments about Graeme Sharp: the guy is our highest post-war goalscorer. He was a key part of the team that won us two league titles, a European trophy, the FA Cup, and very nearly much more.

I have no doubt that he did everything he was able, or at least allowed, to do to help Everton and that any comments he made were based on what he believed to be the facts at the time. That he was a (very small) part of the club's board during such a disastrous era does not change how significant he is to Everton Football Club.

As it stands, the only positive for the club is its history. Without Sharpy, and his performances for us back in the day, we'd have far less of that too.

Danny O’Neill
292 Posted 13/06/2023 at 10:04:48
Andy @288, that was a good post until your last sentence.

Okay some of the fans means you aren't labelling everyone. Granted.

Those criticising Sharp the board member is not shameful. It is a reflection of him being a part of a failing board. Not any reflection on what he achieved as a player.

I watched him and those memories will be with me for life.

He could have and should have spoken out. Moral courage. Walk to make a statement. He chose to remain silent. That was his decision.

Shameful. Disgraceful and Scumbags. Accusations thrown at Evertonians by their own on this thread.

Hope to see you all at Goodison and around the country next season.

Brian Wilkinson
293 Posted 13/06/2023 at 10:18:09
Tony S@291,

Neville Southall won a lot more than Sharp. strangely enough though, he was never invited anywhere near the club, simply because he would not have stood for half the "yes, sir; no, sir" and would have spoken his mind.

They even refused him a complimentary ticket at Goodison, before finally backing down.

They tried to silence Stubbs for speaking his mind, Baines as well If I remember right.

This is not about Sharp, it is about the yes-men and yes-woman Bill surrounded himself with, to have allies fighting his corner.

Strange the likes of Reid, Big Nev, and Andy Gray (pre Bill era for Manager's job for Gray) we're never considered for jobs over the years, Frannie Jeffers says it all as jobs for the boys.

I have no ill-will over Sharp, but Bill played him like a fiddle along with the rest of the ex-players he found jobs for over the years.

Brian Harrison
294 Posted 13/06/2023 at 10:21:23
I would be very interested to hear the thoughts of our Director of Communications, David Prentice.

He left the Echo to join the club and, as far as I can recall, I don't remember too many communications from David, but maybe those in power haven't allowed him to do his job, as a previous incumbent Alan Myers also had to leave the club. There is no doubt that David is a big Evertonian and being married to Dixie Dean's daughter, he knows all about our great history.

I would imagine the job of Director of Communications at any Premier League club must be a thankless task, but at Everton it must be even worse. Obviously fans are unhappy with our under-performing managers and players, so how can you put a positive spin on anything that has been achieved since Moshiri took over the club?

The only positive thing to happen in the last 6 years is the building of the new stadium, and very little else.

Dave Abrahams
295 Posted 13/06/2023 at 10:23:31
Sharp was Kenwright's puppet a long time before he was moved to the Boardroom. He's been used as Kenwright's mouthpiece for about 20 years, took his money, or rather Everton FC's money, and did as he was bid.

Nothing will erase Sharp's football ability from most fans' minds – just that he went from being a good player to become Chairman Bill's puppet.

Dermot O'Brien
296 Posted 13/06/2023 at 10:23:32
Does anyone know what Graeme Sharp did as a member of the board of directors?

What was his role? Duties? Any achievements or personally managed projects?

James Marshall
297 Posted 13/06/2023 at 10:47:48
Sharpy's main role was to sit in the Directors Box looking like a wide-eyed & terrified rabbit with a halogen bulb shone in its face.

Basically, Graeme, sit there and don't say anything.

Brian Wilkinson
298 Posted 13/06/2023 at 10:52:07
Just over 3 years ago, I wrote a very long article saying enough is enough, I got some of my Facebook Everton group and a couple of mates on here, particularly Jim, Bill, Derek, Steve and we rallied round, asking for fellow ToffeeWebbers to join us at Goodison, to get the press in and get our voices across about our dissatisfaction about the current board.

We got quite a few comments wishing us luck, we got comments saying it will achieve nothing and nothing will change and a waste of time.

I was half expecting to get a ban from Lyndon or Mike, due to my strong views against the board, but to be fair they allowed my article to be viewed, and I survived a possible ban.

But since then more Evertonians have got involved, with the help of other Everton fan groups.

Not for one minute did we think our views would be taken seriously, but we never gave up, we had two options, to remain silent, or to at least try to do something about it.

The board members Turing it back on the supporters was the big one that united almost all of the Everton fan base.

Even now there is still a small minority still backing the Chairman, the Chairman is a self centred, deluded, alto ego headline grabber, what’s best for Bill and not what’s best for Everton football club, and it’s supporters is Bills way of thinking, he is so wrapped up in his Everton ways that year after year, he found jobs, for former players, some without any winning mentality or success, instead of bringing in people to run the under 18,s and upwards.

How long did he cling on to Duncan Ferguson for, how much did he push for Rooney to get the Everton job.

It will be a great Day for Everton Football club, when we finally get Bill out of the Chairman’s role.

Was it worth it, damn right it was

Powers to the Evertonians.

James Marshall
299 Posted 13/06/2023 at 10:55:28
The more I read online, the more it looks like Chairman Bill is on borrowed time.

My guess is it's being delayed by a couple of days in order for him to prepare a gushing speech, telling us all how lucky we've been to have him over the years, and how he's the greatest Evertonian that ever lived, or some such.

Maybe they'll do one of those Twitter montage things like they do when we sign another unremarkable footballer from a lower division or relegated team.

I'd actually quite enjoy that!

Alan J Thompson
300 Posted 13/06/2023 at 10:56:28
This could be the theatricality coming out in Bill, acting out the last man to leave the sinking ship and has in mind, to him, Shakespeare's greatest line; "Look out he's behind you!" - three bloody days behind you.

The pantomime may finally be out of season.

Mark Taylor
301 Posted 13/06/2023 at 11:13:33
Not before time. The definition of madness is doing the same thing again and again, and expecting a different result.

I'm slightly surprised they've let Ingles go. I would have thought they would need someone who knows where the bodies are buried if the Premier League investigation takes a turn for the worse. Sharp, from what I can see, had zero power and I read he wasn't actually paid. That somewhat mitigates but not totally; so you make your bed, you lie in it.

Kenwright is surely next, no doubt leaving in a wave of teary emotion which I think we can all ignore. I hope he is not given some kind of honorary role, things have gone way too far for that. I'd like to think he might reflect that had he left at the time new owners arrived (which would also have meant possibly not the same owners we ended up with), he might at least have departed with some gratitude and dignity, accepting that some on here regard his pre-2016 'achievements' with little enthusiasm.

Removing the current failing board is a necessary first step but does not guarantee things will be much better. I don't know the new people nor entirely understand their plans and motives, nor the existing owner for that matter. Time will tell.

For sure, things won't improve much for the next 12 months. We remain financially imperilled and I'd be amazed if we don't have yet another relegation battle which hopefully Dyche can pull us through. The outlook improves somewhat from 2024-25 and we should have the head room by that point to re-generate and aim higher.

Ray Robinson
302 Posted 13/06/2023 at 11:14:24
I remember when Joe Parkinson resigned as Fans Liaison Office (for reasons unstated) and Graeme Sharp was appointed as his successor.

Now, having met Parkinson, I can confirm he was no lapdog. Draw your own conclusions.

Chris Jenkins
303 Posted 13/06/2023 at 11:32:32
Brian Harrison #287 and #294,

I always enjoy reading your comments as they are very balanced and focus on fact.

You are, without question, absolutely correct that Moshiri, the lackey and his reputed master Usmanov, are the main reasons behind our great club's current precarious position. Things have become progressively more critical since they became involved and I honestly cannot see things improving until they sell up and exit the scene.

As Andy Walker (#288) states, we would never have been in this state if David Moyes's return 2 years ago had not been blocked by Moshiri and Benitez appointed instead.

I suspect that Dave Prentice as Director of Communications has felt unable to express his real views on the unfolding disaster since his appointment for fear of losing his job ,which is perfectly understandable.

One minor point, Brian, I think Dave is actually married to Dixie Dean's grandaughter as opposed to his daughter.

Stephen Vincent
304 Posted 13/06/2023 at 11:33:16
There is a book launch at Waterstones, Liverpool 1 on Thursday evening. Details below.

In view of this weeks events Rob Sawyer may be worth listening to.

An evening with Lou Reed Foster
Liverpool
Thursday 15 June 18:30 - 20:00

Join us for a fantastic evening with local author Lou Reed Foster as we hear all about his book Fear and Loathing at Goodison Park: Everton Under David Moyes. The evening will be in conversation with Rob Sawyer of the Everton Heritage Society.

Christy Ring
305 Posted 13/06/2023 at 11:47:36
Brian #293,

You must remember when Gray said on Sky, he'd put his hat in the ring, and when approached by Bill, I presume, he got a massive rise with Sky and turned it down. He stayed away from Goodison for a good while?

Ray #302,

Great point, Parkinson walked away because he was his own man and not influenced by Kenwright, and Sharp took over! Not taking anything away from Sharp the player, but we got tickets years ago, that had Craig Short's name on the envelope, inside connection! We sat in beside Bilic, Sharp and Horne, had a conversation with the two boys, but Sharp hardly said a word.

David McMullen
306 Posted 13/06/2023 at 11:49:17
Good riddance.
John Keating
307 Posted 13/06/2023 at 11:57:37
I can see The Worlds Greatest Evertonian making a West End musical out of this.

Written by and starring William Kenwright, leading lady Denise Barrett-Baxendale, non-speaking walk-on part and prop mover, Mr Graeme Sharp.

I have no doubt we could name a hundred titles for the upcoming masterpiece?

John Keating
308 Posted 13/06/2023 at 12:00:47
Please not “Billy Liar” or “Walter Mitty”
Stephen Vincent
309 Posted 13/06/2023 at 12:05:11
Andy #288, how exactly do you propose we persuade Moshiri to go? The man effectively owns 94% of Everton shares, although he is seemingly about to divest himself of maybe 25%. He has loans on the balance sheet amounting to £450M.

So, unless you have £750M stashed under your bed, or MSP or similar go for a full buyout, we are stuck with Moshiri for the foreseeable future. The only thing I blame Moshiri for is not appointing a Board of Directors with backbone and sufficient commercial and football knowledge at the time he bought the club. Kenwright performed his ultimate sleight of hand in retaining effective control.

Also, the Usmanov connection and his shadow directorship certainly hasn't helped. We have to accept that our owner is a very weak man who basically believes the most recent thing he has been told, so US investors who value profit over everything else may not be a bad thing for us right now. But remember they have absolutely no love for Everton whatsoever.

But we are not out of the woods by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, I very much suspect that we are just in a small clearing and pretty soon we will be plunged back into the bushes.

Regarding Sharp – his treatment by some of the fan base, whilst unsavoury, is entirely understandable once he aligned himself to the failing boardroom. He had plenty of opportunity to disassociate himself from what was occurring but chose silence.

Ray Jacques
310 Posted 13/06/2023 at 12:15:58
Oh yes, the under-30 generation.

My youngest lad is 25, follows Everton home and away with passion.

As the poor lad tells me constantly, he's never even seen us win a tin pot. Very rarely seen us beat Liverpool and rarely even seen us win three games in a row.

Entitled eh? I don't know how he does it as he doesn't have the memory bank of past glories to cling to such as older people like me.

Lee Courtliff
311 Posted 13/06/2023 at 12:20:47
Danny O'Neill, we will, mate.

My mate let me down at the last minute for the Wolves game so I didn't have a ticket after all!

Alex Gray
312 Posted 13/06/2023 at 12:22:30
Seen the gutter rags at it this morning which says to me we're doing something right.

In an ideal world, the temporary board members will be involved with MSP and will be introduced swiftly. Get Bill removed and focus on the squad.

Brian Harrison
313 Posted 13/06/2023 at 12:32:49
Chris @303,

You are quite correct: David Prentice is married to Dixie Dean's granddaughter – not his daughter as I said.

Thanks for your kind comments, I find most posters on T/W including yourself post interesting posts, we might not all agree with one another but we all want Everton to win trophies again.

Brian Wilkinson
314 Posted 13/06/2023 at 12:41:10
Christy @305,

It was Peter Johnson who was Chairman when Andy Gray was approached in January 1997, before Sky offered him a pay rise, not Bill.

Mike Hayes
315 Posted 13/06/2023 at 12:52:15
When are we having our open top bus parade after our treble win - or are we waiting on the main trophy 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤷
Nick Page
316 Posted 13/06/2023 at 12:52:49
Hopefully with the exit of Kenwright, the veil of silence which he enshrouded over the club will be lifted.

Personally, I can't wait to hear from the likes of Trevor Birch and Keith Wyness. Maybe even Jon Woods? There have been more NDAs signed at Goodison than Hollywood since Boys Pen Bill took over – the mind absolutely boggles what has been going on all these years but it won't be good – hence the need for all the secrecy.

Seems like everyone that ever left had to sign one. The only one who hung around was Elstone but even he cleared off for pastures new in the end.

I was also just reading what Simon Jordan has been saying about the fans and mob rule. Makes no sense – like we all just turned on the board one day cos we were shit.

Typical lazy journalism that has only increased during the awful Kenwright years, which was exactly what he wanted. No questions asked, all about Bill and what a wonderful man/saviour he was. Everything else is fake news in Bill's deluded universe.

Mick O'Malley
317 Posted 13/06/2023 at 12:53:48
Ian Edwards @213,

I've seen virtually every game Graeme Sharp played for Everton and, as far as I'm concerned, he can get to fuck.

I don't give a shit what he has done in his career. At this present moment in time, he is useless, just what has he contributed since he's been on the board? Absolutely sweet fuck-all.

It's about time we stopped harping on about the past and tried to get this club back to where it should be. Sharp and the other muppets on the board have proven that they are incapable of doing that.

Finn Taylor
319 Posted 13/06/2023 at 12:57:32
Why do I feel Kenwright will remain, no matter what?

It's going to take 48 hours to come up with language to make it sound like he has left, but is still involved...

Barry Rathbone
320 Posted 13/06/2023 at 13:00:35
Andy Walker @288,

Well said.

Whatever the issues with the Kenwright board, the idea any of 'em would have said "What an innovative idea appointing Rafa is - well in, Moshiri!" beggars belief. To a man (and woman), they would have sat in the corner thinking "He's getting worse this is an unmitigated disaster…"

Any new board will say all the right things to tickle the belly of supporters but, whilst Moshiri is the main man, it will matter not a jot.

Remarkable how people's hatred of Kenwright obscures the real issue at this club.

James Fletcher
321 Posted 13/06/2023 at 13:11:14
Moshiri may be the larger problem but the board don't just get a free pass because they're shit at their job.
Clive Rogers
322 Posted 13/06/2023 at 13:15:15
What is there to discuss for 48 hours? Kenwright's tenure has been an unmitigated disaster.

I am beginning to think Kenwright has got Moshiri stitched up and it is true that he has it in a contract that he remains no matter what. Moshiri must be going to offer him something or he would be gone already.

Christine Foster
323 Posted 13/06/2023 at 13:19:40
Here are two men cut from the same cloth. The former spent many years, 24/7, in fact, searching for his bedmate. The right one who could share his belief, and importantly, share his money.

He found a king, responsible to no-one, a player of men, all-consuming, all powerful, a worthy successor to his crown. Albeit in the background, as his able Lord Chancellor, he could only watch as his power waned and his dreams fell about his feet.

Sacrifices need to be made, tossed aside, buying time, new allegiances to be made. Too late, the executioner becomes him up the steps… The day is here, he has played his last hand. The revolution has sharpened its guillotine… The Miserables, long live the revolution!

You know, they could make a play out of this… but no-one would ever believe it, would they?

Joe McMahon
324 Posted 13/06/2023 at 13:27:37
Christine, absolutely brilliant post and so true!
Bob Parrington
325 Posted 13/06/2023 at 13:28:59
Some slating Sharp possibly need to understand the position of non-executive director. Generally speaking he/she has no vote and is there only in an advisory role.

So, why should he have been given so much shit on here? It is the rest of the directors who should take the blame.

Let's go forward now!

Dan Parker
326 Posted 13/06/2023 at 13:29:33
Can you hear the people sing!
Dan Parker
327 Posted 13/06/2023 at 13:31:08
I have a feeling Kenwright will be given some sort of honorary lifetime title, like Sir Phillip Carter.
Christine Foster
328 Posted 13/06/2023 at 13:35:20
Barry @320,

In many aspects, you almost hit the nail on the head, but where the board really failed was in its inability, reluctance, for whatever reason, to advise, or even prevent the owner from committing excesses that placed the club in material danger.

Their ultimate sanction in such circumstances is resignation, never offered. They became compliant, focusing on things they could point to as justification for their tenure whilst ignoring their duty of care and ensuring the future of the club.

Perhaps they settled for what they could do, not what they should do. That's why it was a great board in the eyes of owner and chairman, because it failed to prevent or hold either to account for their excesses.

Denis Richardson
330 Posted 13/06/2023 at 13:40:02
Moshiri vs Kenwright and who's to blame [more]? Certainly is an interesting debate with many pros/cons depending on your view point.

Personally, whilst Moshiri has presided over a near catastrophe over the last couple of years, it cannot go unnoticed that he has put in over £500M into the club, an amount of money none of us thought the club would ever see in such a short time only a few years ago.

He did not (as far as I know) get that involved in most transfers whereas Kenwright did and most of the money wasted has gone on bad signings. We've also been unlucky to an extent with injuries but, by-and-large, bad signings have cost us badly and these are more Kenwright than Moshiri (annoying example being bringing Rooney back, not just a poor financial decision but also a poor footballing one).

I think we can all agree collectively the club has squandered a huge amount of money (whether deliberately through corruption and/or incompetence is another debate) and along with that a real opportunity to grow and challenge. The manager merry-go-round has certainly made the problem worse, if not been part of the main problem, and that has to go on Moshiri.

To move the club forward, imo, footballing decisions need to be taken away from Moshiri and Kenwright. We've not won anything for 28 years (!) and most of that time has fallen under Kenwright's watch. Can't blame Moshiri for pre-2016. Neither is qualified to run any professional sporting organisation imo, so both really have to go in the end.

Let's at least get rid of Kenwright first as I don't see any value at all in him staying. Moshiri, if he leaves the footballing side alone and focuses on the stadium, is a different matter as the stadium is real and happening.

Hopefully Kenwright's departure is just 24 hours away. Whether Moshiri can avoid tinkering with the transit if he stays is another matter.

Christine Foster
331 Posted 13/06/2023 at 13:48:43
Bob @325, very true, as a non-executive, his role is advisory, and wields no power, only influence. But that also means his position should be the one with minimal impact.

So the question no-one seems to be asking, is why? Why has he sacrificed his reputation and standing in the game when he could have and should have simply walked away?

As an advisor to the board, he may be held by a confidentiality agreement, but his absence would not cause a ripple in comparison to the executives.

Either way, he has gone down with the ship. I hope his final pay is worth it because it will be his last from the club.

Paul Armstrong
333 Posted 13/06/2023 at 13:49:46
Bill is going nowhere.

With so the changes at board level, new investment the club needs somebody involved a senior level to ensure that everything that is 'Everton' is preserved.

Chairman, President with executive powers? He will be there.

Robin Bateman
334 Posted 13/06/2023 at 14:03:13
Is Barrett-Baxendale (I am not going to call her Professor as that is an honorary title not an earned one) also going to resign as director of the other seven Everton boards she is on?

Link

Barry Rathbone
335 Posted 13/06/2023 at 14:13:36
Christine @328,

I think you have a continuing confusion of believing football boards work along the lines of successful multi nationals or civilised enterprises incorporating a creche, functioning HR depts and genuine shareholder accountability. The idea everyone has an equal voice and their views considered amicably just is not the case.

Football clubs are medieval fifedoms with a king and various underlings nominally called directors; their job is to act as occasional sounding boards but to not forget the final call is that of the King.

The tale about Usmanov telling Kenwright to shut up over the Benitez appointment tells you all you need to know about how input has been treated under this mad era.

As for resigning in disgust, I dare say they imagined a "turning of the corner" at any moment and hung on.

Tony Abrahams
336 Posted 13/06/2023 at 14:18:33
Umpapa umpapa that's how it goes
Umpapa Umpapa everyone knows
and they all suppose
what they want to suppose
when they say umpapa.

There's a little ditty
we could have been like City
but only if you've been on
the gin and the beer.

And in defence of William Kenwright,
it's not your fault Farhad insisted you stayed on
to be the fall guy!
You just don't deserve it William.

Christy Ring
337 Posted 13/06/2023 at 14:36:55
Brian #314,

Apologies, my mistake. I have Kenwright on the brain, but my point was really about Andy Gray using Everton to get a big payrise.

John Graham
338 Posted 13/06/2023 at 14:50:31
Three scapegoats being used by Kenwright to keep him in his position as Chairman.

He will be hoping that this shallow gesture will keep the fans off his back even though he knows that he is and always will be the big problem.

Just praying that he will now fall on his sword and then hopefully we can get some people in to sort out this mess.

Eric Myles
339 Posted 13/06/2023 at 14:57:20
Andy #288,

"We'd have had Moyes return as manager a couple of years ago if it wasn't for Moshiri."

That would have gone down as well on TW as the appointment of Benitez!!!

Robin Bateman
340 Posted 13/06/2023 at 14:58:47
Fan's outrage is based on the board for the running of the company (club)

The board is responsible for the running of the company both on and off the pitch and this includes maximising the revenue of the company

With this in mind consider the following lines from the last set of accounts available on companies house (page 24 - yes I was bored)...

"Turnover comprises the following.... other commercial activities - includes revenue received from hospitality, catering, events and all other revenue sources

The above turnover represents net revenue received from outsourced retail and catering operations.

Turnover would increase by £8.0m to £189m (2021: £6.7m to £200m) if these operations were not outsourced"

SO - bringing catering and retail in-house would MAKE eight million quid a year

What financially prudent company (run by the board) would not bring these items in house for that amount of money? I have no idea what someone like Daniel Levey would do but Spurs even brought the beer brewing in house

We are broke. £8 million would pay (for example) for Conor Coady plus Demari Grey and still leave change

I am not an accountant and have no-idea how to run a multi-million pound company but please tell me why this board and their financial advisors are not willing (or able) to maximise profits wherever they can be found even when it is in black and white in their own set of accounts.

Glad they are gone

Robin Bateman
341 Posted 13/06/2023 at 15:09:21
Just read my post again… and that is an increase in turnover, not profit, so my bad, but increased turnover usually results in increased profit.

Still, you get my point!

Jamie Crowley
342 Posted 13/06/2023 at 15:19:48
Just now saw this and almost fell out of my chair.

You knew this was coming, but the finality of it is still a blow (of happiness) to the system.

Surely this is the beginning of righting the Good Ship Everton?

Competent management coming. Bill out in hours. Now just survive next season and begin our climb back to respectability. It's the start of good times I'll wager.

Jay Harris
343 Posted 13/06/2023 at 15:24:49
Report from the Guardian (I know ???):

MSP's co-founders, Jeff Moorad and Jahm Najafi, could take places on the board after their initial investment.

“Either way, two successful local businessmen, the property developer George Downing and investor Andy Bell, who are Everton fans, are understood to be in the frame for board positions as part of the deal.”

I just need to know Billy Liar is gone. Even The Muppets would be a better replacement.

Paul Richardson
344 Posted 13/06/2023 at 15:54:59
It is criminal to supporters, I know, but the board issue is surely about organisational structure, experience, ability and competence? The individuals probably tried to do their best (who does not work tirelessly?). It just wasn't best enough for this level or where we are as an organisation (I revert from the word 'club' at this point).

In any business, if you do not reach the standards required (by the business or club) you are up for scrutiny, no matter how many tireless hours you put in (it's what you put into the hours, not the hours you put in analogy comes to mind). It is the lack of proven talent and scrutiny that brought us to where we (errr) were...

Finn Taylor
345 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:01:24
So the 120-point Strategic Review including them leaving at the end of the season?
Joe Corgan
346 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:03:21
Robin @341:

Not to pick nits but increasing turnover by £8M per year doesn't put £8m in the coffers. You appear to be confusing turnover with profit.

Not outsourcing those services may have increased turnover by £8M but may have actually led to a decrease in profits. Without diving deeper into the report from which you got the figures, it's impossible to tell.

Ian Horan
347 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:08:11
I think the term 'tirelessly working' is a misinterpretation of the board!! It appears to be more like “running around like busy fools!!!”

Begone the blight of nepotism and amateurism that has seeped through our club for the past 24 years!

Will Mabon
348 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:14:37
Finn, this was point 121.
Mark Ryan
349 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:16:51
I want Barrett-Baxendale to come out and say that the fat drunken Everton fan who put her in a headlock was "known locally as Kenshite, that's all I know."
Tony Mace
350 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:17:16
Come on, Bill, you've had your fun.

Now fuck right off and give everyone a rest from the absolute shit that you spout.

Keep it for the gullible luvvies in the West End of London.

Brian Williams
351 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:37:35
Mark #349,

Headlockgate allegedly occurred in one of the lounges.

A person, "maybe" a few drinks into a sesh "maybe not", during a friendly chat with DBB and others playfully put his arm around her shoulder, pulled her towards himself, maybe a bit too enthusiastically and said "now just buy some players."

Was he right to put his arm around her? No way.

Did he have her in a headlock? Definitely not.

Ian Edwards
352 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:44:24
I feel like having a shower after reading this thread. No wonder the Board felt unsafe going to matches.
Nick Page
353 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:48:44
I will crack open the champagne when Kenwright has gone tomorrow.
Joe McMahon
354 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:50:25
Bloody Hell, rumour that Qatari Royals in Man United takeover, and we hope for a £150M loan.
Stan Grace
358 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:51:16
For 'felt unsafe going to matches' read 'felt their board positions were unsafe'.
John Keating
359 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:53:18
Christine @323,

If you read my #307, you'll see that your take may be similar!!

Robin Bateman
361 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:57:45
Joe #346,

Yes, you are right. I realised this just after I posted and commented straight away after my original post.

However, even if they increased turnover by £8M with (say) a margin of 25%, that is still another £2M in the pot.

Steve Brown
362 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:57:59
Poor Ian, I have come to see your attention-seeking posts here as a cry for help.

Let's all give him some space.

Danny O’Neill
363 Posted 13/06/2023 at 16:58:20
I don't recall any threatening behaviour.

I saw passionate care and discontent. Chanting discontent at the plight of the club under the mismanagement of this board.

Chasing cars. Big Yerri stopped, got out and spoke to very dismayed supporters. No trouble.

Go and have that shower.

It might wake you up.

They are gone. One more move to make, then we move on.

Brian Williams
364 Posted 13/06/2023 at 17:01:37
HPD in it's most obvious form. 🤣
Joe Corgan
365 Posted 13/06/2023 at 17:06:25
Robin @361,

Quite true although the profit margins are simply unknown. Yes, we could have taken in another £8M in sales (turnover) but it could have cost us £10M to provide the service without outsourcing. Unfortunately it's impossible to know.

There's a hell of a lot we can criticise the outgoing board for but I don't think we can draw any conclusions on that one.

Andy Crooks
366 Posted 13/06/2023 at 17:21:04
Ian Edwards, didn't have you down as quite such drama queen. That post @352 is right up there with the gem you posted when you went telling tales to the moderators.
Enjoy your shower.
Richard Starkey
368 Posted 13/06/2023 at 17:24:40
Disappointed to read the following at the Goodison News website:

Farhad Moshiri persuaded Bill Kenwright to stay put on the Everton Board of Directors amid the recent exodus and the Toffees majority shareholder could be facing more fan backlash as a result.

Ian Jones
369 Posted 13/06/2023 at 17:25:11
A few years ago, I remember suggesting getting a plane to fly over Goodison to wish Bill Kenwright well. I think word had got out that he wasn't well. My suggestion went down like a lead balloon!

Andy Crooks
370 Posted 13/06/2023 at 17:26:58
Richard, Goodison News is a click bait website run by koppites.
andy walker
371 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:01:13
If Moshiri stays and Kenwright goes we’ll be in an even worse situation than we are now.

Moshiri is the main problem. He’s the one who needs to go.

andy walker
372 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:04:33
Moshiri must be loving the Kenwright is the villain narrative. No wonder Moshiri wants him to stay in order to keep the spotlight off himself.
Julie Naybour
373 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:17:01
Ian Edwatds. I was determined not to enter the fray but I want you to know you are not alone.. You may be a lone voice on here but I know nany who wholeheartedly agree with you and consider it a sad day when those who truly have Everton in their heart are scapegoated in a witch-hunt which is quite shocking.
Denise worked tirelessly to first build the charity into the best in the country and then on the iconic new stadium and had nothing to do with the demise of our great club. Neither did the legend Graene Stuart.
But yeah maybe people will be satisfied the heart has been ripped out of the club.
I await my abuse but I stand with you Ian- as do many I know

Barry Hesketh
374 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:21:34
What's Graham Stuart done? The heart may have been ripped out, but unfortunately it's brains that leads to success.

Most of us didn't support Everton because of the characters in the board room, not during John Moore's years, not during Carter's tenure, it was always about the team and still is, why should any of us show loyalty or love for people who happen to be in positions of power, if they do a good job, great, if they screw up they get stick. The cult of personality is evident in every sphere of life, when it should be about anything but.

Billy Shears
375 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:22:30
Sadly that fat deluded fucker is still with us...get him GONE!!!
Mike Hayes
376 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:25:03
Julie Naybour 🤷 what’s Graene (?) Stuart got to do with it 🤔 Baxendale and Sharp were a waste of space as was Kenshite bringing in Moshiri was Everton’s worst nightmare - £750m and counting to go backwards with TWO relegation fights to the death to go through - no fans are to blame for the last 20+ years of abject failure - the way things are going we could end up folding or losing BMD - fans fault - give your heads a wobble - Ian Edwards - ffs 🤡🤡
Tony Everan
377 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:26:20
Robin 340, a cynical person may have a close look at who owned (or benefited) from the £8m contracts outsourced. Especially so if you could show that outsourcing was detrimental in some way to the club.
Danny O’Neill
378 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:31:31
Danny O’Neill
379 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:31:31
I don't think there is a witch hunt Julie.

Just criticism of a board that failed. Of which Graham Sharp, a much admired Everton player, was part of.

Satisfied the heart has been ripped out of the club?

I don't think anyone is. We've been hurting for years watching our club decline under the stewardship of the now past regime.

To the future now.

Danny O’Neill
380 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:31:31
I don't think there is a witch hunt Julie.

Just criticism of a board that failed. Of which Graham Sharp, a much admired Everton player, was part of.

Satisfied the heart has been ripped out of the club?

I don't think anyone is. We've been hurting for years watching our club decline under the stewardship of the now past regime.

To the future now.

Danny O’Neill
381 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:31:31
I don't think there is a witch hunt Julie.

Just criticism of a board that failed. Of which Graham Sharp, a much admired Everton player, was part of.

Satisfied the heart has been ripped out of the club?

I don't think anyone is. We've been hurting for years watching our club decline under the stewardship of the now past regime.

To the future now.

Andy Crooks
382 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:33:51
Andy Walker, Moshiri has put a huge amount if money into the club. Kenwright has taken money out of it. So you think Moshiri is the villain? Kenwright has lived the backslapping, look at me dream for free. "Chairman Bill"? Vomit inducing.
andy walker
383 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:44:17
Andy Crooks, putting a huge amount of money into a club in a massively incompetent way only serves to do more damage to the club in the long term. We’d be better off now if a quarter of the money Moshiri has put in, had been invested in our club in a sensible, smart and considered manner. Instead it’s been thrown around with little thought for the consequences and has left us with an overwhelming long term problem caused by breaching, or at the very least, being hugely restricted by financial fair play regulations going forward. He’s busted us.
Paul Tran
384 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:46:35
I'm 59 years old. I watched Graeme Sharp blossom from a raw youngster to a top-class striker in a proper Everton team.

I'm 59 years old, with a 21 year-old business. I watched Graeme Sharp join an Everton board that didn't notice it was overspending on seven years of scattergun recruitment, didn't notice it was breaking financial rules, didn't notice it oversaw the club repeatedly buying players who couldn't score goals.

I'm neither interested in nor Impressed by 'hard, tireless work'. That should be a given. I'm interested in simple competence throughout the club. That's what we need right now to restart things.

This isn't a 'witch hunt', it's exasperated people pointing out the obvious to people who are unable or unwilling to notice.

True leadership includes the humility to admit when you're out of your depth and don't know how to fix things. Then you bring in people who can.

That's where we are right now. And not a moment too soon.

andy walker
385 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:49:36
The club wasn’t run by the board, it was run by Moshiri. He’s the main culprit here. Way too many fans giving him a free pass because he’s invested a lot of money in us (in an incompetent, ill considered and reckless manner). I won’t say ‘his’ money as I don’t think much of it was his money. Wake up folks.
andy walker
386 Posted 13/06/2023 at 18:53:34
Same age as you Paul and I, like you watched, Graeme become a superb centre forward. The idea that the same footballer 30+ years later could then be in any way held accountable for not reigning in the actions and incompetence of a multi billionaire owner who owned 100% of our club, is frankly laughable.
Mike Gaynes
387 Posted 13/06/2023 at 19:02:25
PT #334, that's a reasonable view, but I'm not sure there's any humility involved here, or any admission of incapability.

I think this process is being forced upon Moshiri by financial and legal necessity. If the club weren't facing investigation and potential monetary disaster, I believe nothing would be changing right now.

Chris Leyland
388 Posted 13/06/2023 at 19:06:07
Sharp was a non-executive director. His legal duty was to provide oversight on the operation of the business and to ensure that the business was run in the best interests of the business as a whole rather than that of any specific shareholders. A good non-exec shoud challenge poor management, keep the executive team on their toes and challenge the status quo. His record in doing any of this speaks for itself. The fact he used to be a good footballer for us does not excuse his abject failings in his role on the board.

Andy Walker
389 Posted 13/06/2023 at 19:09:40
If I was a multi billionaire worth £100s billions (or access to it), I’d buy Liverpool FC, splash a billion+ on shit/past it, players, sack multiple managers when they fail to get results from the shit squad I’d funded, costing the club £10s millions more in compo, and then when the club had reached its financial fair play limits, walk away. Job done, Liverpool FC fucked for decades to come.

Now, I’m not suggesting for one moment that Moshiri was in any way that devious or motivated in such a way, however his poor judgement has resulted in the very same happening to our club. We are now shafted for years, even decades to come.

Andy Walker
390 Posted 13/06/2023 at 19:18:40
Chris, how do you know Sharp didn’t challenge the board and Moshiri but was just mainly ignored by them?
Barry Hesketh
391 Posted 13/06/2023 at 19:22:31
Let's pretend that Moshiri hadn't have been bought on board by Bill Kenwright, where would be today?

No new stadium on the horizon, possibly not a top-flight club and, although the debts may have been more manageable, we wouldn't be a profit making club either.

The fact that the money has been wasted is very sad and it makes us all very angry, but that can happen when you try to run before you can walk. We are where we are, and we have to find a way of dealing with it; we're severely wounded but not yet dead.

Dale Self
392 Posted 13/06/2023 at 19:25:20
Mike @387,

A good take from above it all. MSP is being aggressive and while it will look painful for some it is necessary for structural improvements. I will bite my tongue while the fear and fury get expressed in these times but too much Everton flagellation or Red Shite worship and it gets real.

We are working our way off the floor here so not too much of the ‘oh we are soooo shit' stuff, please.

Chris Leyland
393 Posted 13/06/2023 at 19:30:48
Andy, if that was the case, then as a good non-exec, he should have resigned as he was failing in his job.
Tony Graham
394 Posted 13/06/2023 at 19:30:55
Barry at 391, my thoughts and feeling entirely..
Paul Tran
395 Posted 13/06/2023 at 19:32:33
That's my exact point, Mike. No discernable strategy, no planning, no competence, no governance.

And circumstances are now forcing his hand, there's been no humility.

Andy Walker
396 Posted 13/06/2023 at 19:38:30
Disagree Chris, Sharpy can only point out what he thinks are the failures and wrong doings, it's down to Moshiri to decide whether to take any notice of what he says. If Moshiri ignores him, Sharp can't be held accountable.

Now if Sharp didn't point out the failings, that's a different situation, but that gets back to my point, how do we know if Sharp did or didn't do his job properly?

Barry Rathbone
397 Posted 13/06/2023 at 19:39:42
Barry 391

Or … the guys who bought Newcastle bought us instead.

The problem with hypotheticals is you can spin them any way you want.

Andy Walker
398 Posted 13/06/2023 at 19:42:43
I think that's a highly possible scenario, Mike. Moshiri could have been ignoring the Board's warnings for years (easy to do when you own 100% of the club) and it's only when external authorities have got involved recently that he's started to take notice.
Julian Exshaw
399 Posted 13/06/2023 at 19:48:10
I am normally reluctant to comment on the political side of things at Everton FC because I simply don't know enough about the goings on behind the scenes and I'd rather leave the comments to those who do.

Suffice it to say that Graeme Sharp was a hero of mine as a young supporter, as were all the great players of the Howard Kendall era, and it is hard to see him in a negative light.

I totally agree that changes need and needed to be made, I just hope it can all be done with a degree of class and dignity which is worthy of our great club.

Brian Williams
400 Posted 13/06/2023 at 20:00:47
Julie#373.
Julie how do you expect to be taken seriously when you don't even know the name of the Graeme who was on the board?
Ian Bennett
401 Posted 13/06/2023 at 20:08:04
My take is Moshiri has clearly called the shots, and with the Russia sanctions, has run out of rope. His legacy will be a new stadium and potential oblivion.

The other directors may not have been making the decisions, but they have been complicent in not stopping any of this. They have taken the kings money and kept quiet.

They had the opportunity to speak out. They had the ability to resign at any point. They kept quiet, and kept getting paid by the king.

Only the fans and financial sanctions are bringing this to an end. As guardians, they're just as bad as the mad man.

Dave Abrahams
402 Posted 13/06/2023 at 20:17:57
Andy ( various), Andy your support of Graeme Sharp is all ifs and buts, let’s not presume but look at the facts, Sharp has been employed by Everton for a long time in different positions since he retired as a footballer and manager, he has never, ever given any indication that was against anything that applied to Kenwright, having a go at the Blue Union, genuine dedicated Everton fans who were pointing out the lies, deceit and folles of Kenwright’s time as a director and chairman of Everton.

They along with others pointed out the financial decline of Everton FC since Kenwright took over, when the club owned Goodison Park, the training ground Bellefield completely, we were £20,M in the black, when Mr. Moshiri bought the club Goodison Park was mortgaged up to the hilt, Bellefield had been sold, Finch Farm was bought, sold before being leased by the club over a very long financial debt.

Mr.Moshiri wiped out the debts, sratarted the ball rolling in getting a new state of the arts ground, he made mistakes, none bigger than leaving his ‘friend’ in charge of the club, this possibly being one of the demands of Kenwright before selling the club.

All these things have been pointed out on numerous occasions but can’t be illustrated often enough, Kenwright bought a financially solid business and drove into the ground, Sharp along with a few more knew what way Kenwright operated but said nothing and joined the board, kept his silence and is now paying the price.

It could have been so different for him even up to a few weeks ago but he made his choice and preferred to stay on the absent board.

Jay Harris
403 Posted 13/06/2023 at 20:26:36
I have followed Everton for over 60 years and have seen the decline from a top class and respected club to a laughing stock and championship standard club.

Now we can all blame someone or other but I don't care how good a player Graeme Sharp was or much much of a blue Kenwright professes to be.

As a board they have all failed miserably.

Keith Harris did the honorable thing and resigned citing Everton as the most dysfunctional board he had ever served under as did Trevor Birch after just 6 weeks. this current bunch of Kenwright cronies just continued on bumbling their way through each season and not one of them apologized or resigned until they were forced out no doubt with a huge payout, it's the Everton way (under Kenwright anyway).

Brian Williams
404 Posted 13/06/2023 at 20:27:07
Spot on as usual Dave.
Brent Stephens
405 Posted 13/06/2023 at 20:30:58
Dave #402 - a powerful case. Couldn't have put it better myself.
Andy Walker
406 Posted 13/06/2023 at 20:48:52
Dave, Moshiri (with the likely help of his behind the scenes backers) has been in charge of the club. You’ve made a huge and I believe totally wrong assumption, that Moshiri left Kenwright in charge. He didn’t, Moshiri blocked Moyes’ return and Moshiri appointed Benitez, Moshiri went along with Benitez demands to sell Digne and sack our DOF, none of that was Kenwright.

The failings at our club over recent years have been under Moshiri’s watch and tenure. He’s caused more damage to our club by overspending £100m’s and leaving us with no real capacity to spend anymore on player recruitment without selling.

John McFarlane Snr
407 Posted 13/06/2023 at 20:50:32
Hi all, as someone who attends games and hasn't a clue of what takes place in the Boardroom, I have to try to make sense of the situation by reading posts submitted by those who appear to know what's going on behind closed doors.
It's obvious that the club has been mismanaged for far too long, but I can't decide who is most responsible. Is it Moshiri, who I believe has provided funds for transfers etc, or is it down to the failings of people who have been careless in how those funds have been spent?
I would be grateful if someone on ToffeeWeb could enlighten me.
Andy Walker
408 Posted 13/06/2023 at 20:52:16
A powerful case Brent? Nah, more like a huge, convenient, evidence free, assumption that Moshiri ‘left his friend in charge of the club’. Complete nonsense. Many examples of Moshiri meddling and making poor footballing decisions.
John Keating
409 Posted 13/06/2023 at 20:52:41
Julie 373
Baxendale our CEO had nothing to do do with the demise of our Club?????
The CEO?
Unbelievable
Eddie Dunn
410 Posted 13/06/2023 at 21:03:46
andy walker/Andy Walker, forgive my scepticism of your opinions, but I wonder if you have been a long time contributer on here or a recent addition?

Are you and Julie some of Bill's patsies ?

Obviously you could be correct in your assessment of the situation, but as none of us ordinary fans know the real version of just who called the shots on various scenarios, then it is interesting that you (andy/Andy) have such a clear view of proceedings.

Can't say the same of your fellow Kenwright supporter, Jule(who doesn't seem to know the difference between Sharp and Stuart). Perhaps Bill or Denise should have briefed her more thoughoughly.

Ernie Baywood
411 Posted 13/06/2023 at 21:04:39
John, I think you need a whole bunch of people doing a terrible job to get to this position.

Moshiri should have taken action against that. He did all the things we wanted him to do. He invested in the squad, he invested in the stadium. He just never held people to account for poor planning and performance. Hopefully that is partly what he is now doing by bringing in expertise through new investment.

Bill is responsible for directing Board business and governance so he needs to go. Our failings are on the pitch and on the balance sheet. The board failed - so he failed.

Personally I struggle with the idea that Sharp should have been directing board business. Were expecting a lot of an ex footballer there! But I can't get past him siding with the board over headlockgate and that's enough for his role to be obsolete.

Denise and Grant can take the knock for us being in a FFP shaped mess.

Then you get to managers and players. Managers have been sacked. Players will be sold or let go.

It's probably Tom Davies' fault.

Christine Foster
412 Posted 13/06/2023 at 21:10:47
Andy 396# Sharp was on the board as a non executive Director for advice on football activities. Buying players or changing managers would fall squarely into that remit. If his advice was not offered or sought, then what would be the purpose of his appointment other than to be seen? If his advice was sought and not taken, then he would have to question his worth as a non executive who is being ignored. Finally, if his advice is being given and acted upon, then he has failed to set in place a good squad of players with a manager and DFO working to a set plan.

That's the reality. Either ignored, not good enough or a combination of both. No matter how hard anyone works does not matter, the quality of decision making and the outcome do. If not, what is the point of just being there other than to satisfy one's ego, or be a facade for show.

Secondly, Mr Grant Ingles. Little is said as to his role in the club affairs but he has been part of the senior leadership team since 2018. His remit was responsibility for all things financial. How anyone can look at the incompetence of our financial position and not question the decisions that got us into so much pain with the Profit and sustainability regulations is beyond belief. This has been squarely and solely the responsibility of Grant Ingles. He is the gatekeeper. He is the one who should know what can be spent, bought, the profit and loss of the business, the adherence to regulatory bodies, financial reporting and decision making. Clearly it didn't work, clearly as with Sharp, his advice was either wrong, ridden over or ignored. Once again, but more critically, he is the single person with responsibility for the financial health of the club. Failure to control spending anywhere in the organization is down to him. Just blaming Moshiri or Kenwright is not enough.

Then, our departing CEO. There is no doubt she can point to Eitc, the stadium and here work with the EPL as evidence of her ability, and in fairness, she has been successful in these areas, alas, running the football club operationally, with the dynamic duo of messers Moshiri and Kenwright at the helm was an enterprise beyond her capabilities. A good CEO needs to influence those with the power for the benefit of the club, to rein in excess and focus on a plan.. not a list of 120 bullet points. Where is the focus in that? Where is the culture of focused responsibility. A job too far despite her efforts elsewhere.

The buck may ultimately rest with Moshiri and Kkenwright, blame the board because of its weak or incompetent members, but control never left the top two. Failure of control and board management almost ended the club in the Premier league, still might, that was the responsibility of the failed board and owners.

Where do the fans sit in all this?

From my own personal perspective, we are one of the best supported clubs in any league, in any country. Right up there. The support, the knowledge and dedication is brilliant. But we are a sample of society, good bad and indifferent as often shown on social media and here on TW. But this club has had its fanbase split for 20 years because of the decisions made by Bill Kenwright. Good intentions but no means to improve, led to demise and ridicule, sale and mismanagement.xFans have been lied too, misled, accused, thrown under so many busses, in the end, even they said enough. There was a massive turning point that in years to come will be pointed to and people will say, "that was the moment they lost the club" but the club was lost years before Moshiri, bedfellows of Kenwright who had no interest in football or the club.

Bad decisions at every turn, eventually almost killing it, the fans had to endure the ridicule and incompetence for years.

Lastly, Moshiri. The man with the money. His connection to the Russian slush fund raised few eyebrows before the war or sanctions hit. His objective of having a successful club in a world class stadium may only become successful once he has gone,, but he left a man in charge of running the club who had oversee its demise then took it upon himself to make his own player and manager recruitment. Chaos in the backgarden.

BMD however will be his legacy irrespective of his future involvement, and it is a fantastic achievement make no mistake. One for which he will be remembered and one for which Bill Kenwright will be a footnote in the programme.

Tony Abrahams
413 Posted 13/06/2023 at 21:10:50
Andy@389, Bill Kenwright has overseen the longest barren spell in our history and not because he spent millions, but because he was skint, yet wouldn’t relinquish his hold on Everton FC.

He was the one on the stage smiling, telling everyone that Farhad, was the man who just keeps on giving. Moshiri was Kenwright’s pick, and what they both have done to Everton, makes me fucking sick.

I agree with you about hypotheticals Barry, but the first thing the new owners of Newcastle did was to get rid of the old owner.

Alan Bailey
414 Posted 13/06/2023 at 21:13:10
I am one of the few Evertonians who was present at Oldham Athletic in 1954 when Everton were promoted from the Second Division. So you can workout how old I am!
However I have seldom been more optimistic as to the future. We have got rid of DBB GI and GS and hopefully WK by the end of the week. Lets forget them and move on.
Jay Harris #343 quotes the Guardian that MSP are bringing in 2 US directors Jeff Moorad and John Najali and hopefully supplemented 2 UK/Merseyside successful businessmen George Downing and Andy Bell. All four have made fortunes from nothing.
I feel sorry for Moshiri ~ he's naive and completely out of his depth but at least he put some money into the Club, he will stay and be joined by those 4 who have all been successful and seen the world and have seen how things should be done ~ more than the last 4 not one of them ever achieved anything worthwhile.
I am more hopeful and confident that at long last things will be turned round and in a couple of years Everton will be something to be proud of again.
Kevin Molloy
415 Posted 13/06/2023 at 21:18:58
just listening to Simon Jordan today on talk sport. 'I've spoken to Bill. And I don't care how many rabid Everton fans scream at me,,,,'

Bill Kenwright
occupation; influencer
level: world class.

Brian Hennessy
416 Posted 13/06/2023 at 21:22:56
Kevin, Simon Jordan was almost right. What he should have said was

Bill Kenwright
occupation; liar
level: world class.

Ernie Baywood
417 Posted 13/06/2023 at 21:25:21
Christine 412... I think the end of your first paragraph summed it up.

Sharp never really had a role. He was apparently there to offer advice - but mainly he was just there to be seen and to make Evertonians think that one of us was on the board.

I don't hold him responsible for any kind of business or football related activities.

I hold him responsible for breaking the bond that was the only reason he was there in the first place. In the grand scheme of things, his role in both the club and it's demise was pretty minor.

Mark Ryan
418 Posted 13/06/2023 at 21:34:05
Good post Alan B and I fully agree. So long as Kenwright is moved out rather remaining I'll be happy. As a board they have all been responsible for the demise of our club. I couldn't care less about how good Denise has been in the community. I couldn't care less if people think Sharp is a Legend ( he's not by the way ) I just want a new broom to come in and run us professionally and then SLOWLY get us back on track. I want to survive and compete next year. That's it. No relegation fever and for goodness sake bring in a Bob Latchford. Another season of Maupay perhaps, Gray perhaps, DCL is injured again I cannot bear. Get a striker in
Tony Everan
419 Posted 13/06/2023 at 21:45:49
“ A witch hunt that has ripped the beating heart out of the club”

I was going to resort to profanity but decided upon “Isn’t ToffeeWeb a wonder of diverse opinion. “

I’d call what’s happening now “major heart surgery “, on a club that was haemorrhaging on all fronts and put at risk of going out of existence according to our owner.

The board are/ were not fit for purpose. They are being sacked out of necessity not choice.

Dale Self
420 Posted 13/06/2023 at 22:12:31
Ok. Some of this is too much to resist. I have some spare time so here we go.

Ian, no need for you are a shower. Julie, hey Naybour that’s no way to talk after ‘vaffanculo’ was played earlier. Maybe those two are unrelated but some of the ‘greatest hits’ seem to get played on heavy news days so that’s why I mention it. And Andy, why the replay on Moshiri’s role now? That’s been played out and I don’t remember your contributions to those discussions. It could be me but I typically recall stuff like that. Moshiri has made public statements deeply implicating Bill in the problems so you’re posturing is not convincing.

Ok. Carry on.

Danny O’Neill
421 Posted 13/06/2023 at 22:18:51
That is tremendous, meaningful, passionate and great assessment Christine @412.

We will go to our new stadium loud and proud.

Tony Everan, there is only one beating heart of this club.

The supporters. Those who walk to Goodison. Those who get the 81D and other buses. Those who get the train to Kirkdale or Sandhills. Those who travel on coaches and trains across the country. Those who take flights.

The vocal and passionate heart beat.

Not those who remained silent and left us on our own.

I'll admit to not being as suspicious to start with. It was the latter Moyes years when I turned. Some would say that was too late.

But when they turned on their own bread and butter last season, I don't know how they can look in the mirror.

Si Pulford
422 Posted 13/06/2023 at 22:20:21
If you’re listening to Simon Jordan on talkSPORT you deserve everything you get.
Phil Gardner
423 Posted 13/06/2023 at 22:42:18
Jesus Christ, I can’t believe what I’m reading on here. Wether Sharp was competent or not as a non-executive director for the club, how anyone can suggest that he isn’t an Everton legend is beyond me. 2nd greatest goal scorer in our history and led the line through our most successful period ever. Some people on here need to get a f****n grip.
Gary Brown
424 Posted 13/06/2023 at 22:44:26
Whose fault is the divide Phil? BPB has sunk Sharpie hiding behind him. End.
Kevin Naylor
425 Posted 13/06/2023 at 22:52:18
Sharpy for the sake of your legacy, issue a public apology to the fans and distance yourself from BK. I'm sure the vast majority of Evertonians will forgive you and welcome you back as one of us.
Danny O’Neill
426 Posted 13/06/2023 at 22:54:20
Phil, I don't think anyone is doubting his legacy as a player in our most successful team. One I was fortunate enough to watch every week.

The point being made by some is that he has tainted that reputation by his silence and compliance with the previous board.

Differentiate the player from the board member.

That's what I'm doing.

A key player in our most successful team.

A passive and submissive member of our most unsuccessful club board and structure.

That's all people are saying.

Don Alexander
427 Posted 13/06/2023 at 23:19:22
Like many another Everton player who realised there was a very prosperous "career" to be had under Kenwright's auspices, even if their "work" produced no benefit to the club, Sharp booted any vestige of "getting Everton" into the back of his own net once he'd acquiesced to become a mere puppet in our boardroom.

He's a shyster, devoid of any significance to us in the 21st century.

Dave Abrahams
428 Posted 13/06/2023 at 23:43:32
Andy (406), before you read this post, I hope you have had a good read of Christine @412.

Mr Moshiri resides in Monaco and has rarely been in Great Britain or Liverpool since he bought the club, leaving Kenwright with the job of guarding the club's interest along with other members of the board appointed by him or, in the case of Ingles, recommended by Mrs Barrett-Baxendale.

Kenwright tried to block Benitez, Usmanov told him to be quiet, and Benitez was appointed with the remit to get rid of the highest wage earners and with no money to spend on bringing in new players except Townsend and Gray, total cost £1.7M.

Digne was transferred after kicking up a fuss, we got a very good deal on him, a decent profit and he had had a bad run of form for quite a while before he went. I think he's lost his place at Villa since then.

Brands was doing a good job until he was invited onto the board by Kenwright after which he seemed to lose his way. I don't know why he went or who got rid of him.

The club seems to be in a financial mess over spending too much money, maybe – nobody seems to know what we are being charged with. If it is overspending, Mr Ingles is in charge of the accounts which are all in front of him.

Moshiri is in Monaco, Kenwright is guarding the club's affairs, or should be, so any mistakes regarding spending is down to Ingles, who is overseen by Barrett-Baxendale, who works very closely with Kenwright, which Chairman Bill pointed out in his last statement from the club yesterday.

Andy, you see no wrong with Kenwright but pin everything wrong on Moshiri's toes. It's patently obvious that's not true.

Kevin Prytherch
429 Posted 13/06/2023 at 23:50:53
Brands was doing a good job until he was invited onto the board by Kenwright?

I'd hate to see a bad job…

Dave Abrahams
430 Posted 13/06/2023 at 23:59:26
Kevin (429) You don’t have to look far, try Walsh who had the job before him.

Brands was in the process of organising the Academy as well as bringing in new players, he had a good reputation before he came to Everton and sees to be doing well back in Holland, maybe it was too much interference at Everton!!

Pete Clarke
432 Posted 13/06/2023 at 00:29:55
Go back to when Moshiri came on the scene to buy into our club. He had plenty of cash to throw about and so bought his way in without doing any due diligence on Bill Kenwright and how the club was run. Very naive thing to do.
Bill Kenwright for his part found the perfect buyer who would leave him in place to run the club and splash the cash. As far as he was concerned there was no need for due diligence on Moshiri.
Both Mosh and BK are as guilty as each other for the failings of this club but Moshiri has at least, in his naivety thrown money at the club and set us up with a new Stadium in an area of Liverpool that should now see constant rejuvenation. The future looks a lot brighter for the club and the city.
As for the board that have left us. They have all been very well paid for doing not much more than keeping their mouths shut. If they were serious directors or executives they would and should have resigned a long time ago if their voices were being ignored. They were primarily paid to make the club and team function properly. We have been a mess for years.
Sharp must be either very stupid or just plain greedy to go along with BK and has seriously damaged his reputation as a club great so he would be better to now issue some sort of explanation in a way to get back on the fans side.
Just now waiting on the best news of all !
Si Cooper
433 Posted 14/06/2023 at 01:19:03
Like everyone else these days in thrall to the standard corporate model; a strong willed ‘boss’ and his group of ‘yes people’ who believe they are the ideal and any corporate failings are due to other people / circumstances beyond their control. Reach a certain level and you will never be judged to be / presented as a failure because that is evidence of the poor judgement of those who chose you in the first place.
I understand that the club has to be run by some people but they really have to be (and should be considering how much they will be rewarded) proper experts in the sporting arena and able to discern between what actually works and what is just papering over the cracks.
Moshiri can change things round if he appoints a proper board this time, not relying on an enthusiastic amateur /professional narcissist to empire build.
Mike Gaynes
434 Posted 14/06/2023 at 01:29:38
Dave #430, Brands is now CEO at PSV Eindhoven. Nice promotion from Director of Football. They finished second this season and won the Dutch Cup for the second year in a row.

So yeah, he's doing great.

John Pendleton
435 Posted 14/06/2023 at 01:31:13
Paul Tran (#384 and #395) - agree with every word. ‘Tireless work’ means nothing without the strategy, planning, competence and governance you mention.

The league’s smallest board with the fewest skills spaffed the biggest windfall in the shortest time.

Moyes’ limited ambition and eye for a bargain performed well enough to kick the impact of top level incompetency down the road for a few years but proved to be unsustainable in the long term. Moshiri’s money simply sped up our demise to where we are now, BMD hopefully an exception rather than a further accelerant.

Things can change quickly though and a positive relationship between Dyche, the new and competent board and a state of the art stadium might just be enough to alter our trajectory and repair the off the field damage. It’s on the field I worry most - who do we lose or gain in order to win more matches whilst balancing the books?

Don Alexander
436 Posted 14/06/2023 at 03:19:56
Eulogising "Sharpie" the player, instead of NOW concentrating on where the club is following his fabulously rewarded role as a non-entity director under Kenwright made me look up Wayne Clarke's stats for us whilst Sharpie was the alleged king-pin centre-forward throughout the mid/late 80's, when Wayne played nigh on 60 games for us, at our (admittedly then diminishing) height.

The stats on the legend that is Clarkie show that in our admittedly diminishing status his goals-per-game ratio was identical to that of Sharpie throughout our very peak. One in three or thereabouts.

Hmm - maybe Wayne too needs to be accorded legendary status eh?

Or can some of us just wake up and realise that the one sane thing Moshiri ever said all those years ago was that he wanted US to be no longer regarded as a MUSEUM - such as we now are in terms of being consigned to the "Chamber-Of-Horrors room for seasons to come on account of his bone-headedness?

All in all it seems to me that despite his very recent betrayal of all Everton fans some of us still, amazingly, still think Sharpie deserves a plinth alongside Dean, Lawton, Hickson, Pickering, Young, and Vernon!

Bizarre.

Ernie Baywood
437 Posted 14/06/2023 at 03:30:24
Has it been 48 hours yet? We need a countdown!
Steve Brown
438 Posted 14/06/2023 at 04:08:44
Andy @ 408, as with most things the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

A profligate owner with no understanding of his product and market, working with an incompetent board and a club structure that was dysfunctional. Particularly as it related to decision-making.

What is factual is that the board failed in its financial and fiduciary responsibilities, resulting in huge losses and an investigation for financial irregularities. The board quite rightly has finally resigned. Moshiri owns the club, so despite his failings he is going nowhere until he receives a commercial proposal that matches his valuation of the club - after the stadium is completed.

Andy Walker
439 Posted 14/06/2023 at 05:19:09
I’ve read all the posts, all very reasonably and making good points. My opinion remains unchanged, as long as Moshiri’s remains nothing is likely to change in any significant way within the club. His intentions may have well have been honourable at the outset but his footballing judgement has been abysmal in my opinion. Two key moments in Moshiri’s reign stand out for me. Interviews in which firstly he made it very clear that he thought our fan base was particularly awkward to deal with and please, this put him on a collision course with all of us and led to Benetiz’s managerial appointment. He really wanted to have a manager that he knew would wind up most of our fan base. Secondly he also made it clear in an interview how he felt he’d spent his £500 million or so, wisely and the only problems was that he’d been unable to find a manager who was capable of getting the best out of the wonderful squad Moshiri by his own admission had been responsible for assembling.

Both delusional opinions, both ultimately lead to a his stubborn refusal to acknowledge he’d recklessly blown his money on many poor signings. He pursued a personal agenda based on a misguided view of our fan base and belief that he’d spent his money well on good players. Both fundamentally abysmal conclusions which lead him to pursuing ideological flawed long term football related strategies.

By the way, just because I haven’t directly criticised members of the board shouldn’t lead others to jump to the wrong conclusion that I think they are individually and collectively beyond criticism. It’s pretty pointless wasting time analysing the performance of a Board that was under the control of a single owner though. My point is they were effectively puppets of Moshiri and whatever other external forces may been influencing decision making in our club. Newcastle fans understood this point when Ashley was in charge, the guy who owns the club and controls the purse strings, is the guy who carries the can, not his lackkies on the Board.

If thinks had turned out much better, you can bet Moshiri would have been at the forefront taking the public plaudits, instead of him now hiding and letting the Boorad take all the flack fo what are fundamentally Moshiri’s misjudgments.

Phil Gardner
440 Posted 14/06/2023 at 06:00:07
Danny (426) unfortunately there are several folk on here who have come out and directly questioned Sharp’s status as a club legend. Doubtless he’s damaged his legacy by his behaviour, real or perceived, on the board but for crying out loud, if Duncan Ferguson/Tim Cahill/Mikel Arteta etc can enjoy the status of ‘legend’ on here, Sharp must be an absolute Titan.

Don (436) no-one is ‘eulogising’ anyone…read it again. ‘Wayne Clarke’ eh? Yes, that’s a stunning piece of statistical analysis and what is ‘bizarre’ is your conclusion that there can be any comparison between the two players. If that’s your level of footballing intelligence, I’ll disengage. Enjoy your day.

Tony Abrahams
441 Posted 14/06/2023 at 07:23:12
Some Evertonians also understand that point Andy, and this is the reason a lot of them had a feeling that it was going to end very badly once Moshiri kept Bill Kenwright on as our chairman. (How Bizarre)

I agree and think they all need to leave, but I think we will know more in a couple of weeks, when things should have hopefully moved forward?

If Moshiri remains the majority shareholder then I will still have my reservations, because I also agree that nothing much will change. We need professional people who are driven to succeed, otherwise it’s going to be more of the same at best, imo.

Danny O’Neill
442 Posted 14/06/2023 at 07:40:03
That's fair Andy.

I suppose it depends how you look at it and I'm not suggesting you, I or anyone is right or wrong. We just voice opinion, sometimes emotively!

The owner is ultimately responsible. But it is not uncommon in many walks of business and life for the owner to be distant and empower the board. You run it for me.

So was / is Moshiri reckless and out of his depth?

Did he give his money to the wrong people, albeit people he gave the keys to and at the very least sanctioned their appointments?

Was the board to blame for it's incompetence and inability to run a football club of Everton's stature?

Probably a blend of all. A mismanaged club, whilst the supporters just got behind the team. Those supporters will be rewarded some time soon. They deserve it and have done it on their own with the team.

Without inner knowledge, I suspect a lack of communication and regular monthly or quarterly business updates. The perception is that he certainly didn't have a grip. But then did he interfere too much? I honestly don't know.

Many Evertonians' point is that regardless of Moshiri, there has been one consistent influential figure involved at the leadership level at Everton since the late 80s. He should be gone in days. If he isn't then this won't go away. Surely Moshiri can see this.

Moshiri has acted now, but almost too late. This should have happened when he took control. And maybe, we will see, influenced by the potential new investors turning the screw.

One thing I would pick up on, and I understand what you meant Andy, in terms of Moshiri's perception of the Everton supporters being awkward. We are not awkward. We are demanding.

We demand to compete, not survive.

Some may call that deluded and a blast from the past.

Well, I am demanding and I expect Everton to compete, as I am sure we all want.

Moshiri will have delivered the new stadium. My guess is he will stay to see that through and sell. But I'm guessing.

He can take that accolade. But his leadership of the club and those he empowered to run it on his behalf was naive at best and very nearly cost us.

To draw a parallel, the first commercial company I worked for was procured by an investment company. They didn't change the workforce, but the first thing they did was to bring their own people in and change the leadership.

That is where Moshiri failed. And the people he empowered failed. That is me being passive at best.

And finally, they turned on us and made a pathetic attempt to blame us. Apologies. I can't forgive that.

We move on. They are gone.

Danny O’Neill
443 Posted 14/06/2023 at 08:00:37
Phil @440,

This has been a really good thread and read.

Apart from being labelled disgraceful, shameful and scumbags by some of our own supporters!

But we all have thick skin and big shoulders. You have to if you follow Everton and step into the ToffeeWeb bear pit.

I use the word legend very carefully with regards to footballers. Yes, there is a difference between what constitutes a club legend and a global one. And that itself is down to personal views.

In terms of Everton, it will be generational and opinionated. Dean, Ball, Harvey, Kendall. Some would say Royle, others point to Latchford. I only saw Latchford, the rest, I trust my Dad and Grandad's view and educational stories.

In my lifetime, there is only one, and regular readers will know who that is.

Then there are iconic players. In the 60s, apparently Tony Kay had the lot. Duncan McKenzie was magic in the 70s. Andy King and his derby winning stunner. Too many to mention in the 80s. The corner flag boxing kangaroo. We could go on.

Most are, or were, just great or very good players.

I am very reserved on the use of the word legend.

Mark Ryan
444 Posted 14/06/2023 at 08:05:10
Just on the Legend chat. Would people feel proud if we put a statue of Graeme Sharp outside Bramley Moore Dock Stadium ? I'd find it very strange indeed. Do people think he is due one outside Goodison ? I don't. Why ? Because he was a very good player for us. That's it. He was a decent striker. He's an ex board member who stayed away from Goodison. That's how I'll remember him. Legend ? Nah
Andy Crooks
445 Posted 14/06/2023 at 09:07:20
Well said, Mark. Also Wayne Clarke was alright. I reckon the status of legend( kind of an odd concept when you think of it) should apply to people for whom there would not be a single dissenting voice. Dixie Dean would be the benchmark.
Therefore, Don's analogy in my view, is no more ludicrous than defending Sharp because he was once a fine player for us.
People do great things and awful things, sometimes in the same day. Sharp was paid to play for Everton, something most of us would to for nothing. His role as a director was to be there.
Kim Vivian
446 Posted 14/06/2023 at 09:07:42
I have just realised that somewhat ironically Graeme Sharp is this month's picture on the Everton desktop calendar. Others featured are: A. Ball, K. Campbell, J. Royle, D. Ferguson, T. Cottee, Sharp, N. Southall, K. Ratcliffe, K Sheedy, A. Gray, P. Reid and T Steven.

While each are icons in their own right and respectively hold some sort of folklore status to different fans, I count possibly only 4 "legends" in there - and I'm afraid Graeme Sharpe is not one of them.

Back on topic - has anyone managed to dislodge the limpet yet?

Andrew Ellams
447 Posted 14/06/2023 at 09:33:30
Wayne Clarke deserves legend status just for that goal that ended the RS unbeaten run and probably stopped them going the full season unbeaten.
Si Cooper
448 Posted 14/06/2023 at 09:35:47
Can people explain exactly what inside knowledge they have to assert board members have worked ‘tirelessly’, or are they just taking other people’s word for it.
In my experience those at the top may have a broad spectrum of concerns but it is still the lower ranks who are actually the ‘doers’.
A failure to realise you are actually out of your depth, or that your work doesn’t produce the necessary results is still failure and requires correcting.
Nick Page
449 Posted 14/06/2023 at 12:26:25
Has he gone yet?
Alan Bailey
450 Posted 14/06/2023 at 12:28:23
All the posts about past legends is interesting but I think the future is exciting. I can only research from Google but it does seem that MSP are going to be excellent investors. I would much prefer them to the investors of our rivals clubs in the Premiere League
These are the 4 touted directors of Everton
Jeff Moorad (aged 68) hence MSP (Moorad Sports Partners) is an ex sports agent started MSP and built it up to a large Sports Investment Firm
John Najafi (aged 60) is Iranian (as is Moshari) and went to the US not knowing any English and now is a billionaire
George Downing (aged 60) the largest commercial property owner in Liverpool. Lives in Switzerland likely Chairman of Everton
Andy Bell (aged 57) Built up AJ Bell from nothing to a billion pound investment company has recently stood down as CEO of AJ Bell and is the likely CEO of Everton

Read Google for much more details.
I would much rather these 4 making the decisions about Everton than the last 4
Onwards and Upwards

Justin Doone
451 Posted 14/06/2023 at 12:34:03
To be fair, the only 2 people that have been on the board long enough to prove how inept they are are Moshiri and Kenwright.

Kenwright eventually found a buyer, job done. He should have stepped down straight away or after a season handover.

Moshiri has pumped his money into the club and the new stadium will be his legacy. He should then sell up and step aside. Maybe the process has started in admitting to needing experienced sporting investment.

I have no personal grudge with anyone. I'm sure they all tried there best but it didn't work and a reset is needed and it has started. My fear is it's left up to Moshiri and Kenwright to appoint a new board. Doh!

Dave Abrahams
452 Posted 14/06/2023 at 13:05:34
Andy (445), Yes legends are hard to define, I always think back, when somebody is given “ The freedom of the City” regarding Liverpool to Margaret Symie an excellent city councillor when she was offered the honour, she declined it, saying doing the job was her obligation.

Danny Blanchflower refused to go on this is your life, I’m more interested in those who refuse knighthoods and other honours than those who accept them, recently there has been a demand that the two rugby league ex players receive a knighthood, one with motor neurone disease and his great friend who has helped to get plenty of money to go towards helping to find a cure for this terrible illness, why would these two genuine honest people want to join the lists of many phoney people who have received and longed for these honours.

With regards to Everton I think Brian Labone, a very good player and a genuine man who really loved Everton before he came, when he played and died an Evertonian deserves to be called a legend but doubt it would bother him if he wasn’t.

Danny O’Neill
453 Posted 14/06/2023 at 13:11:51
Very good and poignant words Dave Abrahams.

I have 8 medals that I will frame and have mounted on my landing next to my Grandfathers WW2. I won't wear them again, even on Remembrance Day. I got given them for doing my job.

I forgot Alex Young, who my Dad spoke about.

He also spoke fondly of Brian Labone. And also "the Angel" Gabriel, who rarely gets a mention.

Si Cooper
454 Posted 14/06/2023 at 14:01:51
“He's invested a lot of money in us (in an incompetent, ill-considered and reckless manner). I won't say ‘his' money as I don't think much of it was his money. Wake up, folks.”

So, if it wasn't ‘his' money, why would you assume he was the one making the decisions? What you believe, Andy, has a lot of indications of confirmation bias where you imagine all wealthy men that you can't really relate to are consummate control freaks. Even if he was of the dictatorial kind, why would you let the board off for not exposing the truth as the club got ever closer to the precipice?

But of course you've stated that if you had massive wealth you'd use it to destroy a rival club, rather than use it for something worthwhile, so maybe expecting a balanced view (ie, one that looks at all the facts) is a little optimistic.

Andy Walker
455 Posted 14/06/2023 at 16:47:54
Si, I’ve worked in a consultancy capacity, (I’m not a financial adviser) with many extremely wealthy people, I know what generally makes them tick and how they like to operate. Look after No 1 first, second and third, then their family. There’s a reason billionaires are billionaires. If you think it’s all accumulated legally think again, you don’t make billions by never doing something below the radar. Whether it was or wasn’t Moshiri’s money, makes no great odds. Moshiri whether acting alone or working with people outside the club, controlled, and still controls EFC. My point is the Board members were puppets and figureheads in my opinion.

If you choose to take my comment about buying LFC so absolutely seriously, that’s speaks volumes about your judgement. Obviously, if I had £100 billions, in addition to fucking up LFC I’d give the rest away to the poor, whilst promoting world peace and love. I know you’d obviously do the former, whilst promoting the value of virtue signalling.

Will Mabon
456 Posted 14/06/2023 at 17:11:03
Andy,

it used to be below the radar.

Andy Walker
457 Posted 14/06/2023 at 17:46:26
True Will!
Kunal Desai
458 Posted 14/06/2023 at 17:50:30
48 hours eh or was that Bill's version of 48 hours when a transfer was supposedly completed but never materialised.
Duncan Lennard
459 Posted 14/06/2023 at 19:02:59
Good times?? FFS he can’t even tell the time.
Soren Moyer
460 Posted 14/06/2023 at 19:17:10
Looks like Bill is not leaving any time soon!!!? Is he?
Paul Smith
461 Posted 14/06/2023 at 19:28:04
I have a sneaking admiration for his ‘no fucks given’ about anyone but himself attitude. It takes a real narcissistic personality disorder and huge resentment to pull it off.
Ian Bennett
462 Posted 14/06/2023 at 19:46:49
There's a need to restart AGMs.

The club decision to stop AGMs is embarrassing, as they couldn't take the facts of the mess they've made of it.

That has to return.

Lev Vellene
463 Posted 14/06/2023 at 19:47:24
Soren #460, Bill wants that to be 49 hours, and enough time after that for a few more bows to the devastated audience, all of whom will beg him to stay, after all!

Or maybe I'm just dead tired of watching this site and the EFC site to get some final confirmation one way or the other... ;D

That comment about it coming one hour before the announcement of next season's fixture list seem ever more likely, if he can only see the "slink away" as the one option left.

Joe McMahon
464 Posted 14/06/2023 at 19:47:43
I keep checking (like all of us) and yes Dame Fat Liberace is still here.
Denis Richardson
465 Posted 14/06/2023 at 19:55:50
Not sure what time zone was being quoted but pretty sure 48 hours has now passed . just tumbleweed rolling across GP at the moment. Anyone seen Kenwright?

Everton events would make a decent Netflix series as no one could make this shit up!

Stan Grace
466 Posted 14/06/2023 at 19:55:59
No news on Kenwright, but just hearing that the Arteta money has been found at Mar O Lago.
Soren Moyer
467 Posted 14/06/2023 at 20:07:41
Lev,
I bet he'll be here when the new season starts! The man is just hanging on no matter what! He will even survive a nuclear blast by the looks of it.
Lev Vellene
468 Posted 14/06/2023 at 20:14:30
It feels like Bill's genome includes both barnacles, limpets, and that guy from school who thought you'd keep the bad guys off him if he stuck to you... ;D
Lev Vellene
469 Posted 14/06/2023 at 20:20:59
Ofc, being an Evertonian, I feel that YouTube's "Aftermath: Population Zero - The world without Humans" is a very fun thing to to watch again. It does take my mind off next season, at least. :D
Trevor Powell
470 Posted 14/06/2023 at 20:49:10
Where is Kenwright's resignation or P45???
Paul Jones
471 Posted 14/06/2023 at 20:58:10
The board is working on Venusian timescales here.

So 2 earth days equates to 486 days on Venus. Don't hold your breath (unless you're living on that planet and you've not got adequate breathing apparatus).

How long is a day on Venus?

A planet's day is the time it takes the planet to rotate or spin once on its axis. Venus rotates much more slowly than Earth does, so a day on Venus is much longer than a day on Earth. A day on Venus lasts for 243 Earth days or 5,832 hours! A day on Earth is 23.943 hours. Venus also rotates backwards compared to the Earth and most of the other planets.

Paul Jones
472 Posted 14/06/2023 at 21:02:08
Venus also rotates backwards compared to the Earth and most of the other planets.

As does Everton compared to other premier league teams. Kenwright truly is a pioneer.

Steve Cotton
473 Posted 14/06/2023 at 21:09:02
Who is preparing club statements?
Who is negotiating player contracts?
Who is negotiating transfers?
Who is running things??

We know who isn't

Winston Williamson
474 Posted 14/06/2023 at 21:10:54
Kenwright is hiding with the Arteta money.

Incidentally, my predictive text changed Kenwright to Me Weights, and Arteta to arrest…make of that what you will…

Ray Jacques
475 Posted 14/06/2023 at 21:13:22
Where is the witch hunt. The board have failed miserably, the decision making on players and contracts is a disgrace. How much wages has been paid and wasted.

They don't even come to the game. They treat the fans like second class citizens.
If I performed like that at work I would be sacked and deservedly so.

Some people need to open their eyes and get in the real world and off their fluffy little cloud.

Joe Corgan
476 Posted 14/06/2023 at 21:34:05
There is no doubt in my mind that there is something in Bill's contact keeping him in place for as long as Moshiri is our owner.

He is clinging on for as long as possible. Possibly until such a time that Moshiri's shareholding is such that he is no longer the majority shareholder.

The writing isn't just on the wall. It's scrawled in 60-ft-high letters and it says 'Kenwright Out!'

Jamie Lenard
477 Posted 14/06/2023 at 22:18:47
He's holding out for a 1000 comments about him on this thread.
Ernie Baywood
478 Posted 14/06/2023 at 22:30:27
Bill's departure is quite a production isn't it?

I fully expect a sympathy-inducing reason being given for the delay in the announcement.

Barry Hesketh
479 Posted 14/06/2023 at 22:49:32
A statement will be made about interim appointments and the future of the Chairman in the next 48 hours.

That doesn't necessarily mean that the Chairman will be resigning or sacked does it?

Friday 16 June 16 09:00 am, Bill Kenwright is proud to have led the club and his ongoing commitment to the club is proven by his willingness to buy out 50% of Farhad Moshiri's shareholding and he looks forward to leading the club into a brighter future.

Paul Norman
480 Posted 14/06/2023 at 22:59:00
No Barry, but it does mean that a statement, any statement, should have been made by now!

Another show of contempt for us, the life-blood of our club, from those narcissistic charlatans (or one in particular) who are shaming all of us.

Ernie Baywood
481 Posted 14/06/2023 at 23:00:28
Barry, no it doesn't.

But I'd be very surprised if the announcement isn't retirement. Commentary on his health. Platitudes about his service to the club. And some kind of life membership or long-term acknowledgement of him.

The only slight curve ball I can imagine is that he might have offered to serve in some kind of interim role while the new board and chair settle in.

Tony Everan
482 Posted 14/06/2023 at 23:21:38
Please, please no interim role for Kenwright. Don’t do it to us. Him leaving is the biggest indicator that the club is changing and moving forward.

Mr Moshiri, don’t be sucked in on this one. Before you know it we will have an upturn in form due to Dyche balancing the squad. Kenwright will then be banking on a softening of criticism enough for him to extend the interim role for the opening of the Stadium.

David Currie
483 Posted 14/06/2023 at 23:31:15
48 Hours

I've combed this town from top to bottom,
I try to get around but my legs are broken.
Every time I miss it cause I ain't got a ticket.
48 hours needs 48 thrills, 48 thrills.
Cheap thrills, and they got thrills.
Kicking for kicks.

Andy Crooks
484 Posted 14/06/2023 at 23:57:38
The shameless fucker is still here. Surely a shot must ring out soon.

Ian Black
485 Posted 15/06/2023 at 06:22:25
So… to summarise the last week:

Our local rivals (in name only) have just bought a 24-year-old, all-action, World Cup-winning midfielder for about the same price as an Onana, prior to the transfer window opening. Have we got any pre-planned, well-thought-out additions to our squad when the window opens? (Spoiler alert: No!)

The club announce that 3 of our 4 board members are leaving the club. Not being sacked, fired, resigned or are leaving for another job. They have left from being disappointed.

The club has said the fate of the remaining board member would be announced within 48 hours...

We have been told that the shiny new stadium will not be ready for the start of the 2024-25 season.

We have been told that we may face some sort of comeuppance in October through the previous actions of our financial activities, which may or may not be quite nasty.

Various players have left our wafer-thin squad (or bloated as Leon Osman seems to think) through either loans or contracts expired.

The transfer window has opened (see spoiler alert).

The fate of our one remaining board member was said, by the club, to be announced within 48 hours. As of writing it is 60 hours+ into the 48-hour self-imposed deadline. It is not clear whether he will be staying or leaving himself through being disappointed.

Honestly, as a fan, I am starting to feel a little disappointed myself.

Colin Glassar
486 Posted 15/06/2023 at 07:38:22
Ian,

Everton have been unable to find a pair of bolt cutters to cut Kenwright's chains (to the radiator) so he will be allowed to stay on for as long as he wants.

We will never get rid of this leech.

Steve Brown
487 Posted 15/06/2023 at 08:02:18
I think they are searching the broom cupboards at Goodison for him.
Martin Mason
488 Posted 15/06/2023 at 08:11:19
I understand now. Bungalow Bill is going to do it all on his own as a one man show. We are just so lucky.
Roger Helm
489 Posted 15/06/2023 at 08:33:30
72 hours into the “next 48 hours”. Can’t Everton do anything right?
Nick Dermott
490 Posted 15/06/2023 at 09:51:56
As good as your summary is, Ian @485, I thought it worth pointing out that we are also being sued by Ancelotti!!
David Peate
491 Posted 15/06/2023 at 11:53:02
William Kenwright – Superstar. A few words from the original show (voiced appropriately by Judas):

Every time I look at you I don't understand
Why you let the things you did get so out of hand.
You'd have managed better if you'd had it planned

Tony Everan
492 Posted 15/06/2023 at 12:33:48
48 hours has been and gone… now Day 3. What's the delay with the announcement? Hit an impasse over the terms of his departure?
Ernie Baywood
493 Posted 15/06/2023 at 12:43:46
Sometimes I wonder whether this club just enjoys taking the piss.

They couldn't be this bad accidentally.

I mean, they chose the timing of the announcement. They chose the 48-hour window. Why do that if there's even a chance that you can't follow up?

Between screw-up and conspiracy... It's usually screw-up. But not when the screw-ups are this consistent.

Si Cooper
494 Posted 15/06/2023 at 13:05:52
“If you think it's all accumulated legally think again, you don't make billions by never doing something below the radar.”

So the likes of Gates, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Jobs and Musk have all dabbled in illegal schemes?

You are surprisingly imprecise for someone others apparently consult, Andy, or is the art of consultancy only appearing to know what's best (or possibly ‘generally' best)?

You're barking up the wrong tree if you think I'm the sort of person who thinks all's fair in love and money-making. I question the morality of loads of stuff that is considered legal, which is (one of the many reasons) why I won't ever be a billionaire (though shouldn't that be a multi-millionaire since we are British?). My dreams of lottery money are empty of settling grudges and full of altruism though.

My only experience of the mega-rich is from interacting with some of Jim Ratcliffe's trusted lieutenants, but the point is that the head honcho did have people he delegated stuff to (that seems to be true for Alan Sugar and Richard Branson from things I've observed or been told) and so I do easily imagine that Kenwright had some things he was trusted with doing in the Kenwright - Moshiri - Usmanov organisation. You, however, insist it's all on Moshiri although you offer no proof.

You say it's only black and white, Andy, but I'm seeing shades of grey.

Kevin Edward
495 Posted 15/06/2023 at 13:11:23
Come on Everton, don’t leave us hanging… how about Friday afternoon? That’s a good ‘Corporate’ spot to send out the news, then we get the weekend to recover.
Barry Hesketh
496 Posted 15/06/2023 at 13:20:37
Paul the Esk speculates that:

There appears to be an agreement between BK & FM going back to 2016 for Moshiri to acquire any or all of BKs shares. The price & FM's willingness/ability to buy may be problematic.

That potential contractual dispute should not stop FM from removing BK from the board.

BK's departure was always going to be more complex than other directors. One factor may be his shareholding (1750 shares) which I assume he will want to dispose of. It's not immediately obvious who the buyer would be & the price will reflect the current difficulties the club faces.

There's a window of 14 days in which to announce on Companies House, new directors/departing directors.

Tony Shelby
497 Posted 15/06/2023 at 13:21:48
Them and Usmanov: following the trail of hidden funds and London property

In March 2022, several Russian oligarchs were placed on sanctions lists with all of their assets frozen by the UK. Uzbek-born Alisher Usmanov, with a (known) minimum net worth of US$19B, was one of them.

This is the story of how Usmanov, 'Putin's favourite oligarch' was caught trying to skip sanctions and continue building his property empire across the UK.

Dale Self
498 Posted 15/06/2023 at 13:23:40
Yes, let's be more dramatic as that bitter old man finds stage left. They are likely working out a distant role allowing him to make an appearance at the stadium opening.

So let's take this opportunity to stick one in the club as the most difficult of actions are taken. It is obvious that these dislocations imply future progress but hey it's still shitty enough to have one last go before Dyche undeniably improves the situation.

Steve Brown
499 Posted 15/06/2023 at 13:38:26
‘Everton’s FFP charge is understood to relate to a tax issue surrounding loans for the club’s new stadium at BMD, Everton are confident they will beat the charge.’

According to Everton Daily.

That is quite narrow.

Brian Williams
500 Posted 15/06/2023 at 13:41:58
Read that Steve, and if true it would seem to disprove the weird and wonderful notion that it all stems from the Dele Alli transfer.

I hope it is regarding the loans because if a bloody accountant can't sort that out and clear us then who can?

Mind you, having said that, it's still a case for "Don't believe everything you read" – until it's proven to be that.

However, it seems strange that the charge is not down to our losses of over £300M against the £105M allowed.

Clive Rogers
501 Posted 15/06/2023 at 13:50:49
Spending on stadiums is supposedly exempt. This is what is covered:

Clubs need to balance football-related expenditure - transfers and wages - with television and ticket income, plus revenues raised by their commercial departments.

Money spent on stadiums, training facilities, youth development or community projects is exempt.

Jon Bentley
502 Posted 15/06/2023 at 13:58:25
If George Downing is going to be chairman of the board, we're going to have some fun:

Everton FC fan tycoon George Downing thrown out of Manchester City Directors Box – Liverpool Echo, 26 March 2020

Brian Williams
503 Posted 15/06/2023 at 14:11:51
Two nil Everton win, away to City? When was that?
Brent Stephens
504 Posted 15/06/2023 at 14:20:41
Jon #502, I imagine George Downing might want to serve as a match-day steward (aka bouncer in this case) in the Directors' Box when he becomes chair and we play our home games against City!
Steve Brown
505 Posted 15/06/2023 at 14:22:25
Brian, yes I was one of those who was convinced about the Dele Alli transfer as I was told that on pretty good authority.

Capex costs are exempt from consideration, therefore, if the issue really is tax write-offs linked to stadium loans, that is a pretty narrow infringement.

Brian Williams
506 Posted 15/06/2023 at 15:11:35
My comment at 503 was made after I'd followed the link the to Red Echo story.

My question still stands. When did we beat Man City or lead them by two goals to nil at their ground?

Or is it just more shite reporting from that rag?

Joe McMahon
507 Posted 15/06/2023 at 15:27:37
Update on twitter by Paul the Esk:

There appears to be an agreement between BK & FM going back to 2016 for Moshiri to acquire any or all of BKs shares. The price & FMs willingness/ability to buy may be problematic.

That potential contractual dispute should not stop FM from removing BK from the board.

He also stated that It seems that Moshiri is too accommodating to Kenwright.

Ian Sephton
508 Posted 15/06/2023 at 15:29:38
Brian 506 - March 2010 I believe. Black & pink kit, Cahill header from Baines cross, Arteta sidefoot from a Rodwell pass.
Lynn Maher
509 Posted 15/06/2023 at 15:35:33
If my doctor ever tells me I only have 48 hours to live, I pray it is an Everton 48 hours!
Barry Hesketh
510 Posted 15/06/2023 at 15:37:19
Three occasions between 2008 and 2010, Everton led two-nil away at Man City, winning all three.

Yakubu and Lescott

Cahill and Arteta

Cahill and Baines

John McFarlane Snr
511 Posted 15/06/2023 at 15:44:15
Hi Brian [506],

I have looked it up on "Everton The Official Complete Record" unfortunately it was printed in 2010 so two of the last entries were:

2007-08. Manchester City 0 Everton 2 (Yakubu, Lescott)

2009-10. Manchester City 0 Everton 2 (Cahill, Arteta)

I'm afraid that my memory is not what it used to be, but I'm sure that someone will be able to help you out.

Trevor Powell
512 Posted 15/06/2023 at 17:21:26
We are well past the 'within 48 hours' deadline for an announcement for the weevil who has brought EFC to its lowest ebb. WHAT IS THE BS KENWRIGHT NEWS?
Alan Bailey
513 Posted 15/06/2023 at 17:55:42
Is there a legal eagle out there?

Under the Articles of Association for Everton FC, is it possible for the Company to be run by two directors, one in Monaco?

Brian Williams
514 Posted 15/06/2023 at 18:00:15
Thanks everyone for the info. The Echo are reporting it as happening recently I believe. Pffffff who knows, or cares!
Brendan McLaughlin
515 Posted 15/06/2023 at 18:27:31
Interesting Joe #507

"That potential contractual dispute should not stop FM from removing BK from the board."

It would appear that Paul the Esk doesn't subscribe to the view, often aired on here, that Blue Bill has some sort of legally binding agreement with Moshiri which means he can't be removed from his role as Chair.

John Burns
516 Posted 15/06/2023 at 18:31:11
Everton always have this warped relationship with time. A two week injury is inevitably six to eight weeks. A 48 hour deadline will be at least a week.
Colin Glassar
517 Posted 15/06/2023 at 18:31:20
BK’s playing the long game. He’s hoping people will start focusing on the new season, transfers, BMD, legal problems, investment etc…. He thinks we are all morons and we will run after the next red meat that’s thrown at us.

Will he be right?

Iain Johnston
518 Posted 15/06/2023 at 18:36:06
I see the FFP hearing is set for October.
Tony Abrahams
519 Posted 15/06/2023 at 18:36:56
Not that it matters because it's only Paul the Esk's personal opinion anyway, but I haven't read anything from him that implies this, Brendan.
Barry Rathbone
520 Posted 15/06/2023 at 19:12:43
If Bill completes the quadruple of all 4 directors flitting does that leave Moshiri left steering the ship?

GULP!!

Stephen Graham
521 Posted 15/06/2023 at 19:15:41
Just saw this: more grist for the mill.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jun/15/everton-fans-urge-farhad-moshiri-to-remove-bill-kenwright-as-chairman

Bill Fairfield
522 Posted 15/06/2023 at 19:25:50
Another typical Everton saga developing with the overdue statement about Kenwright. How much more disrespect can they show the fans. It’s a disgrace.
Brendan McLaughlin
523 Posted 15/06/2023 at 19:27:39
Tony #519,

Assuming Joe has interpreted the tweet correctly, the Esk appears to suggest that there is some sort of agreement dating back several years that Moshiri will buy Blue Bill's remaining shares but there seems to be a problem around the valuation of the shares or Moshiri's ability or willingness to acquire them.

However, this dispute won't prevent Moshiri from dispensing with Blue Bill as Chair.

I'd have thought that, if the Esk thought there was some other agreement between the two also relevant to ensuring Blue Bill remains as Chair, the Esk would have thought it worth mentioning at this juncture but perhaps not.

Admittedly though you are correct in that it is only the Esk's opinion but hopefully it's a slightly more informed opinion than most.

Brendan McLaughlin
524 Posted 15/06/2023 at 19:40:11
Tony #519,

If you follow Stephen's #521 link, the Guardian are reporting much the same story as the Esk.

The point I'm making is that whilst it's mentioned regularly on ToffeeWeb, I've never actually seen any significant source suggest that the "Keep Bill" clause exists.

Kevin Molloy
525 Posted 15/06/2023 at 20:16:24
The fact that Kenwright is having to be prised from the railings of Goodison Park by his fingertips gives the lie to his longstanding malarkey about only hanging around until he could safely pass on ownership to a proper custodian. It is wildly apparent that all the benefit of Bill being Chairman accrues to Bill, and the debit is all on the Club's side.

He is latterly reduced to feeding stories to his various mates in the media about how badly treated he has been by the fans. Hardfaced doesn't do justice to this guy's brass neck. 77, and still not out.

Paul Smith
526 Posted 15/06/2023 at 20:20:05
Stephen, that's a good piece by Andy Hunter. Get a sense the Guardian has nothing against the fan base and just the dodgy owner.
Tony Abrahams
527 Posted 15/06/2023 at 20:22:48
Which is a different point altogether Brendan @524!

Nobody has seen anything which says Usmanov is our real owner, and nobody saw Barrett-Baxendale getting put in a headlock.

Moshiri took over Everton, over seven years ago, and surely part of the deal would have been for him to purchase the rest of Bill Kenwright's shares one day?

That day is hopefully coming, but it would feel a lot better to me if Moshiri also follows Bill Kenwright out the door. I live in hope.

James Flynn
528 Posted 15/06/2023 at 20:38:45
2008 0-2 game. Not a "shock" victory at that point. This is before Mansour took complete control. We still had a better team than City.

Link

2010 0-2 game. City still not 'CITY!!!" yet and we're the well-drilled, veteran-led team.

Link

Neil Copeland
529 Posted 15/06/2023 at 20:49:08
I see Altogether Now have written to the club regarding the missed 48 hour deadline. Sorry, I am not very good at attaching links, it appeared on Facebook a few minutes ago.
Danny O’Neill
530 Posted 15/06/2023 at 20:57:15
Here you go, Neil:

Everton fans urge Farhad Moshiri to remove Bill Kenwright as chairman

The time is surely coming.

Brendan McLaughlin
531 Posted 15/06/2023 at 21:02:18
Tony #527

Not sure I follow the logic.

On Usmanov... there was a close relationship between him and Moshiri before Everton, it was reported that Usmanov had gifted Moshiri his Arsenal shares which enabled him to buy Everton and Usmanov came on board with Moshiri at Everton at least in terms of sponsorship.

So there are some actual facts mixed in with speculation which lead people to the conclusion that Usmanov is really the owner of Everton.

On "headlockgate" no one apparently saw the incident, there was no CCTV and the police weren't notified of the incident...all of which led people to suspect the incident never happened.

On the "Keep Bill as Chair" legal agreement between Blue Bill and Moshiri... cue the sound of the whistling wind and the sight of tumbleweed blowing across Goodison. Nothing!

Have to agree, however, much, much better if both Blue Bill and Moshiri go.

Neil Copeland
532 Posted 15/06/2023 at 21:04:24
Danny, cheers, that’s the one.

Yep, come on Bill, time to move on.

Tony Abrahams
533 Posted 15/06/2023 at 21:56:54
Don’t worry about my logic Brendan, because I had exactly the same problem understanding yours.

David Bromwell
534 Posted 15/06/2023 at 22:14:00
Yet another sorry story from the Club which as far as I know has not been circulated was the sudden and harsh closure of the Girls Academy. Apparently the young girls had no prior notice and were left to find new clubs.

Given that we had until very recently a women Chief Executive Officer, the decision and the way the girls were ditched was doubly disappointing.

Nick Page
535 Posted 15/06/2023 at 22:27:29
As if Kenwright hadn't embarrassed himself enough already. Now this. Never fails to surprise me. A professional football club that got hoodwinked by an absolute chancer who brainwashed an (almost) entire fanbase.

Shame on you.

Tony Dunn
536 Posted 15/06/2023 at 22:31:48
David Currie 48?

Love it, we are the punk team/club, always do the unexpected. Back in the park end with my bullshit detector!

Bill Watson
537 Posted 15/06/2023 at 22:58:12
This 48 hours is turning out like the10 minutes added time v Bournemouth... lasting an eternity,
Dave Abrahams
538 Posted 15/06/2023 at 23:19:14
Bill (537), yes it is taking it’s time but the liars trio are surely now paying the price, with Chairman Bill joining two bigger liars Johnson and Trump all getting dumped around the same time.
Pete Clarke
539 Posted 15/06/2023 at 23:37:24
with every passing torturous minute that the shameless Kenwright lingers at our club I am also beginning to detest Moshiri more and more for his weak and inept leadership in allowing it.
The quicker somebody with brains and organization gets control of the club the better for us all.
Bill Watson
540 Posted 15/06/2023 at 23:38:04
Dave # 538

Kenwright said the boardroom changes had been planned for 6 months but if that was the case surely it would have been a seamless changeover, last Monday. It seems Chairman Bill is lying to the end.

Tony Abrahams
541 Posted 16/06/2023 at 08:03:37
He never took a penny until he sold Everton and made millions, and only then did Chairman Bill, start taking a wage.

I honestly think that the only time Bill Kenwright has ever been genuine and told the truth, was during the interview when he was getting quizzed on going to Kirkby, and being asked about “certain fans” accusing him of sucking the lifeblood out of the club.

”I'm alright, I've got a great seat upstairs” he smugly said, “and I definitely understand this football club.”

I couldn't disagree with those words because, if he didn't understand us, how else would he have known how to appease enough fans, who helped him play his perfect solo game?

Michael Kenrick
542 Posted 16/06/2023 at 09:29:42
Tony @541,

I know you're locked in to a daily rant but I'm not sure Kenwright gets a ‘wage' as such from Everton. I don't think I've seen any indication of this.

I'm sure he's given himself a swath of benefits and privileges in his elevated position, but not a ‘wage', I don't believe…

Yes, the directors' emoluments are recorded as a line item in the Annual Accounts, but I'm sure these are for the executive directors who have done such a great job in running the company…

Nick Page
543 Posted 16/06/2023 at 10:20:20
Michael,

I think he gets £1M per year and all expenses paid. Happy to be wrong on that though but that was my understanding.

Martin Mason
544 Posted 16/06/2023 at 10:29:42
Nick @535,

He never at any time hoodwinked the Everton fanbase, the vast majority of whom understood exactly what was going on or at least more than what you know.

Remember that you did exactly what that hoodwinked fanbase did: exactly nothing. What do you know about how the club has been run in detail? Absolutely nothing.

Nick Page
545 Posted 16/06/2023 at 10:44:05
Martin, carry on living in your Kenwright fantasy world mate. Preferably in the bin.
Barry Hesketh
546 Posted 16/06/2023 at 10:47:05
I agree with Tony above, Bill Kenwright has never really understood this football club of ours and he certainly hasn't understood a large section of the support. His romanticised version of Everton Football Club is a world away from what is needed today.

That framed newspaper from 1994 that he has on his wall, says to me that he sees survival and continued existence as more important than competing in the top league, which is ironic, given the many issues that surround the club today.

Whether Chairman Bill goes or stays, doesn't really bother me as much as the idea that without a CEO in place, Moshiri and Kenwright can make unilateral decisions that could have major impacts on the club for the near and long-term, without any other executives being involved. Perhaps that truly is business as usual and the three directors that left on Monday, had no say in major decision-making?

How is MSP going to react to this state of affairs, will they continue with their proposed plans and investment, I smell another scenario where Chairman Bill has no option but to carry on regardless, but I genuinely hope that I've got that wrong.

Brendan McLaughlin
547 Posted 16/06/2023 at 10:50:44
Michael #542,

Pretty sure you are correct. I think the Articles of Association state that only the Executive Directors are salaried.

Danny O’Neill
548 Posted 16/06/2023 at 11:15:05
I suspect he is negotiating his departure and severance package and selling his shares.

He must know there is no way back.

Moshiri needs to be decisive.

Despite having varying ways of expressing it, we have a fanbase the is predominantly united in wanting the removal of the last part of a failed board.

Dave Abrahams
549 Posted 16/06/2023 at 11:22:06
Bill (540),

Yes, you could be right, Bill, but I hope to God you are wrong.

Joe McMahon
550 Posted 16/06/2023 at 11:36:15
This 48 hours is longer than the extra time City had v Gillingham in 1999.
Tony Abrahams
551 Posted 16/06/2023 at 11:45:03
Interesting Michael, because I keep reading that certain members of the Everton board of directors are paid around £900.000 a year. This just adds more credibility to the people who are upset by the witch hunt, aka mob rule.

It should have happened a long time ago, and yes I have become very boring with my incessant rants against Bill Kenwright, but that's only because I hate what this man has been allowed to do to our club, and I'm not just going on about recent history, I'm more concerned about the longest barren spell in the club's history.

When I was growing up, Everton was all about competing and not surviving, my oldest is 27 and has only known his club for surviving rather than competing, and this has all happened under the tutelage of a man who said we would never get a better owner, or was it salesperson?

He's been an absolutely owner, and look at the clown he sold us to? Chairman Bill has had a ball.

Steve Brown
552 Posted 16/06/2023 at 12:03:48
Paul @ 526,

The nuance that the Guardian has nothing against the fan base only the owner will be entirely lost on many Everton supporters.

This supposedly left-leaning paper has not forensically investigated the owners of Newcastle and Manchester City, for example. In fact, they have not really investigated them at all as they want access to relatively successful clubs.

They are repeatedly targeting a club in a working class city like Liverpool for scrutiny as an easy target. The majority of Everton fans come from Merseyside and are grounded in the region.

Steve Brown
553 Posted 16/06/2023 at 12:05:29
Tony A, the removal of Kenwright will happen.

It's just a question of when now.

Bill Gall
554 Posted 16/06/2023 at 12:08:53
I am beginning to wonder if they meant 48 days and not 48 hours…
Larry O'Hara
555 Posted 16/06/2023 at 12:15:05
Steve (552), very perceptive.
Bill Watson
556 Posted 16/06/2023 at 12:16:02
Steve #552

'Supposedly' is the operative word. The Guardian is a liberal paper which supports the status quo. If anything challenges that, eg, Corbyn, they hide behind the sofa.

Ray Smith
557 Posted 16/06/2023 at 12:16:19
If Kenwright (very unlikely) makes any form of statement in the very near future, his credibility dictates that nobody will or would believe him, even if he was telling the truth!!!

Can somebody explain to me, how the board can democratically trade without an AGM? I know they've done it, but through my naivety, how can this go unchallenged?

I can't see Kenwright leaving, maybe a sideways shunt… but the stench and odour of his presence must make working conditions for Everton's employees unbearable, ducking for cover whenever they see him approaching.

I've said it many time: just go, Bill.

Does anybody have another definition of 48 hours?

I don't post that often through choice, but I find myself constantly looking for news that I know isn't forthcoming!
Joys of being a lifelong Evertonian!

Brian Williams
558 Posted 16/06/2023 at 12:24:06
#544

What do you know about how the club has been run in detail? Absolutely nothing.

Errr, becuase falling foul of the financial rules Premier League clubs are subject to, having an ex-manager take the club to court over financial breach of contract, coming within one game of being relegated twice on the run doesn't mean the clubs been run badly?

For fuck’s sake, even Stevie Wonder could see in detail how badly the club's been run.

Steve Brown
559 Posted 16/06/2023 at 12:24:06
Larry, I am a Guardian reader myself.

But the way they target a club like Everton over Newcastle is really cowardly.

Kevin Naylor
560 Posted 16/06/2023 at 12:45:31
Like the film 48 hours we have the sequel Another 48 hours, this could get into Fast and Furious territory!
Danny O’Neill
561 Posted 16/06/2023 at 12:52:34
Tony,

What you say speaks for generations who remember Everton competing.

Generations who won't accept any less or lower expectation.

My son is 28. As passionate an Evertonian as me, but has seen nothing but mediocracy, a bit of stability and relegation scraps.

In some of the conversations you often wonder who the senior is.

But there's no chance of me giving in.

Martin Mason
562 Posted 16/06/2023 at 13:05:00
Nick @545,

It's nothing to do with Kenwright, it's the sneering attitude that some like you have on other Evertonians. It's a patronising faux superiority that's totally unwarranted.

Andrew Ellams
563 Posted 16/06/2023 at 13:17:48
Martin @544, don't be ridiculous.

Would anybody be even the slightest bit shocked if the Fraud Squad raided the club tomorrow? Something's not right and there's lot more pain to come.

Nick Page
565 Posted 16/06/2023 at 13:46:19
Oooh Martin’s having a bad day isn’t he. Bless him. Must be hard coming to terms with being sooooo wrong for all this time.
Nick Page
567 Posted 16/06/2023 at 14:35:37
Kieran if you want to “estimate” how bad it really is just consider all the people that have been paid hush money to keep schtum. And that's pre Moshiri.

Getting rid of Kenwright isn't like lancing a boil. The stench of mediocrity pervades every facet of the football club, like some massive tumour sucking the life out of it.

Ken Kneale
568 Posted 16/06/2023 at 14:46:50
Keiran & Nick

The #AllTogetherNow statement sums up your position

“That ‘great board' have left us in a perilous financial position with constant poor decision-making, leaving the club in a dire situation with an FFP court case hanging over our heads. They have brought us zero trophies and two back-to-back relegation battles. Not forgetting in recent times throwing the club's biggest asset, its fans, under a bus with no remorse or apology.”

Meanwhile, in Kenwright's parallel world, he described the outgoing directors as “a great board” when their departures were announced on Monday.

John Keating
569 Posted 16/06/2023 at 14:49:27
We can go back to the lies of Fortress Sporta Fund, King's Dock, Destination Kirkby, the Safety Certificate… Fast-forward to headlock and non-attendance due to supposed threats.

We can look at the characters we've been involved with, Green etc

We can look at our financial situation over the years. From the shoestring budget Moyes operated with to the recent past with Benitez spending his allowed £2 million.

We can look at the joke of a Club we have become with supporters taking the piss out of us every game. Never mind the shit football we've produced — look at the league table??

So with all this staring us straight in the face, no ifs, buts or maybes – I find it quite incredible, beyond reasonable rational belief that anyone, even the most ardent passionate supporters of Kenwright, can still speak up for him?

Yes, we can blame Moshiri for many things but this club was up Shit Creek long before he appeared on the scene.

God only knows what Kenwright has to do before his sycophant acolytes change their tune? I doubt they ever will…

Kieran Kinsella
570 Posted 16/06/2023 at 15:02:02
John 569,

Kenwright has created a cult using the same methods as other cult leaders. Here are the characteristics from a psychology website:

A charismatic leader
He is that.

Ideological purity
He banishes dissenters be they ex-players, Birch, Gregg, media.

Conformity and control
His name is involved in every transfer deal and he employs yes-men.

Us-vs-them mentality
Plucky Little Everton fighting the whole world

Apocalyptic thinking
Goodison will lose its safety certificate, he has to mortgage his house to save the club, he is protecting us from ruin under Johnson, Moshiri etc.

Time and energy
EitC does a lot of good with the unpaid help of thousands of Evertonians, and financial contributions from the same. While all the credit goes to him and Denise Barrett-Baxendale.

Isolation and love-bombing
Hand-picked Fans Forums etc keeping people out of AGMs, not engaging with other fan groups who dissent, just creating this special connection with the chosen few who get a handshake from him or a tour of the ground by his acolyte Sharpy.

He literally is a cult leader and while many have now escaped the brainwashing and smelt the roses there will always be those unfortunates who are irreparably mentally and emotionally ruined and unable to control their own faculties outside of the guidance of their cult leader.

Stephen Vincent
571 Posted 16/06/2023 at 15:12:11
Tony #551,

In 2022 our highest paid director earned £868,000, the Board's total remuneration was £3,050,000. In 2021 the highest paid director earned £2,041,000, the Board in total earned £4,214,000.

I suspect that the top earner was Brands as he left part way through the year ended 30 June 2022.

Larry O'Hara
572 Posted 16/06/2023 at 15:14:46
Kieran (570) — excellent post, spot-on.
Dale Self
573 Posted 16/06/2023 at 15:27:34
Yes, Kieran, that was brutally on point.

On a lighter note, here is some good news for you. I just received a birthday package containing my new Everton scarf. I'm now going into Santa Cruz to get a few looks on my bike ride.

"Up The Fucking Toffees" will be the response to any stuffy quizzical looks I get.

Eric Myles
574 Posted 16/06/2023 at 15:47:56
Kieran #50, no wonder he signs off as Chairman Bill !!!
Bill Gall
575 Posted 16/06/2023 at 15:54:54
Here we go again… constant rants of various cock ups of various misdemeanors of Bill Kenwright. We all realize as supporters the mess he has got the club in since he first became owner, and then chairman, but why has he been allowed to do it? And why did it take the threat of relegation to bring it to the boil?

The problem now is the owner. A burglar will continue breaking in and stealing if the chief of police issues a no-arrest against him, so why has Moshiri persisted with him for so long?

Moshiri is the major problem at Everton as, being major shareholder and owner of the club, he can hire or fire anyone in the club and that includes a Chairman who only holds 1.3% of shares in Everton.

If you feel it helps you ranting and raving over Kenwright, go ahead, but let's get the owner to accept he is the problem in allowing the Chairman, with help from the Board, to ruin the club.

Kieran Kinsella
576 Posted 16/06/2023 at 15:55:17
Eric,

Haha – too true!

Colin Glassar
577 Posted 16/06/2023 at 16:38:25
Has he gone yet?
Kim Vivian
579 Posted 16/06/2023 at 16:45:41
Close of play Friday and with the weekend looming it looks like 48 hrs will become 168 hrs at least. One week less of steps towards better on-field progress and one week closer to the start of the season (and end of the transfer window).

Moshiri needs to get his fucking finger out...

Tony Mace
580 Posted 16/06/2023 at 16:49:20
C'mon Bill.

You're stinking the place out.

Nigel Munford
582 Posted 16/06/2023 at 17:17:32
It’s been a very long 48 hours!!!
Jay Harris
583 Posted 16/06/2023 at 17:24:41
Ole rhinocerous skin is not going to go lightly and whatever condition was put on the sale agreement with Moshiri may be causing a problem.

Apparently they met earlier in the week and Moshiri can't stay in the UK for that long so I assume he has gone back to Monaco and left blagger Bill in situ.

I'm hoping the delay is for MSP to get their ducks in a row and it may be after the end of the accounting year before we get new directors appointed.

I can't bear another minute of that charlatan's reign. Please let it be over soon.

Martin Mason
584 Posted 16/06/2023 at 18:25:34
Keating @569,

Kenwright has no sycophant acolytes unless you would like to prove it? Did you idiots read the fan survey? I'd like to see so-called fans like you gone as well as Kenwright.

We must not criticise other Evertonians with imagined crimes. They are all entitled to their opinions, we need only to try to get them on side.

I would urge the mods on here to ban people for this sneering attitude. You are no better than them believe me.

Nick Page
585 Posted 16/06/2023 at 19:24:41
“ would urge the mods on here to ban people for this sneering attitude. You are no better than them believe me.”

1984 😂

Andy Crooks
586 Posted 16/06/2023 at 19:31:17
Martin, urging the Mods to ban people with whom you disagree is really not like you. I guess you feel as pissed off as all of us.
Brian Williams
588 Posted 16/06/2023 at 19:50:56
We must not criticise other Evertonians with imagined crimes.

This from someone who in the next breath refers to fellow Evertonians on here as idiots.

One fucked-up individual for sure.

(Eds: I readily accept the ban should it be forthcoming).

Danny O’Neill
589 Posted 16/06/2023 at 19:52:24
Frustration, Andy.

I don't want this to turn into another "Benitez" summer, with anxious morning walks. Lack of communication is getting us spun up into a frenzy. Well, it is me.

We sense and almost see a new blue dawn rising. We can feel it. Just do it, because my dogs have got enough to worry about with the hot weather.

Mike Hayes
590 Posted 16/06/2023 at 19:54:56
Kenwright did say that, once he found his billionaire which is obviously Moshiri, he would be stepping down — must be the steps leading to a Weatherspoon's bog! 🤷
Bill Gall
591 Posted 16/06/2023 at 19:58:20
Kim #579,

The transfer window only opened on 14 June and you can only make deals from the domestic leagues until 1 July, when international transfers are allowed. The window will then shut at 11 pm on Friday 1 September.

As per former Everton dealings, we then may see some desperate moves for incoming players. Here is hoping they get a new board and chairman in to get some deals done in the weeks before then.

Dale Self
592 Posted 16/06/2023 at 19:58:35
That comment – roughly "I'm alright with a good seat upstairs" – is really really not sitting well with me.
Kieran Kinsella
593 Posted 16/06/2023 at 20:01:51
Brian @588,

Those that have met him said he's a decent bloke. Maybe communicating via typing versus in-person isn't Martin's forte?

ps: Happy birthday, Dale, hope Okie is treating you well.

Jim Lloyd
595 Posted 16/06/2023 at 20:26:20
I'm thinking that, if Mr Moshiri hadn't got involved, a) he might be a mightily relieved man, and b) it is unlikely that our club could have spent half a billion pounds in the pursuit of success. Nor would we be able to even think of moving from Goodison Park (or redeveloping it).

So to blame Moshiri for all our ills, even before his time here, is a bit silly in my view. I'm sure there are Blues who think I'm silly for holding the views I hold, but facts are indisputable. Kings Dock was disastrous for us, but very nice for a senior manager of North West Water, who found that his dream of having a canal gurgle through the middle of the Pierhead to the Albert Dock, magically come true. If my memory is right, he was also a director at Everton FC.

We, on the other hand, were protected from getting involved with nefarious characters who would have lent EFC our share of the building costs, by that noble chieftain, who still resides at the head of our almost broken club.

There are other actions he fought on our behalf, such as fending off Sheik Mansour.

Inviting us to a "virtually free", world-class stadium in Kirkby (the plans for which were overruled).

Finding a True Blue Father Christmas who fended off the attempt by Paul Gregg to become the Chairman and who sent many millions of £££'s by post to stymie the evil plot. Unfortunately, the Millions of quids were sent to the wrong address.

Apart from these little hiccups, the mighty EFC have been riding the crest of a slump ever since Moyes left.

Now don't get me wrong, I love the man, he played a true Blue in the Liver Birds, so must be a good Boys Pen Veteran,

Now, from my view as an illiterate resident of the fair hamlet of Kirkdale, Mister Kenwright, who reckons he's been in charge when we've had good times (er... when?) has been an absolute disaster for this club.

Mr Moshiri, hand-picked by our Glorious Leader, has put getting on for £¾ Billion and we're seeing a stadium rise on the banks of the Mersey. But my guess is he knows little about the ins and outs of football. He probably wants to take part in the redevelopment of the North End of the Liverpool Waterfront, and us who live up this end welcome any progress, from the Bootle border to the Pier Head, for the first time since the War.

Anyway, I find it appalling that a form of censorship suggested by fellow supporters, akin to those Woke Loonies, who are like the second coming of the Witchfinder General's supporters, truly awful.

Michael Kenrick
596 Posted 16/06/2023 at 20:30:07
Okay, Martin @584,.

"Did you idiots read the fan survey? I'd like to see so-called fans like you gone as well as Kenwright."

We've put up with a lot of crap from you in recent weeks but this crosses the line.

I would urge you not to use this website to call your fellow Evertonians 'idiots' or to suggest they should be 'gone'.

Jim Lloyd
597 Posted 16/06/2023 at 20:34:43
Well said Mike (590) :)
John Keating
598 Posted 16/06/2023 at 20:46:10
Martin 584,

Absolutely disgusted in your reply to "Keating @569".

Although it was directed at me personally I reckon it was one of the most disgraceful replies to any post I've witnessed on ToffeeWeb.

There are a few posters on here who reply using surnames rather than Christian names which I find out of order.
Your posts are sometimes up for serious comment, however, I can't recall anyone ever calling you "Mason".

You should be ashamed of yourself. You know nothing about me or my supporting our Club for over 60 years.

You are totally out of order.

Tony Abrahams
599 Posted 16/06/2023 at 20:52:51
Thanks for that info, Stephen @571. Do you know how many directors this money was shared between, mate?

I got it on very good authority today that Moshiri is also speaking to a consortium that want to buy Everton, lock, stock & barrel.

I have always been of the opinion that he must want to sell, but after hearing this news then, now I'm not so sure.

Jim Lloyd
600 Posted 16/06/2023 at 20:55:32
John, all what you said is valid, and from the heart.

Well said, sir.

Deborah Maria
602 Posted 16/06/2023 at 21:32:15
Martin Mason,

Are you a match-going Evertonian? If so, I very much doubt you would express your opinion out loud at the game.

Brendan McLaughlin
603 Posted 16/06/2023 at 21:33:51
Sorry Kieran #570

Charismatic... falls spectacularly at the first hurdle.

Brendan McLaughlin
604 Posted 16/06/2023 at 21:46:04
Tony #599,

Stephen won't unless he has access to information other than the published accounts. The figure paid to the Directors includes Barrett-Baxendale, Ingles & Brands (at least for part of the year) salaries as full-time employees of the club.

It's not as simple as dividing the figure in the accounts by the number of Directors.

Michael Kenrick
605 Posted 16/06/2023 at 22:08:28
Thanks, Brendan @ 547 & 604,

I think you got that spot on. I don't think it's going to change Tony's rants much, though.

Paul Ferry
606 Posted 16/06/2023 at 22:28:39
I don't care what Mr Mason is like in the flesh because I have not been lucky enough to meet him. All the vast majority have to go on, quite rightly, is what we see on ToffeeWeb.

On that score, the post at 584 – compare with the attitude that is hauled over the coals at 562 – tells us all that we need to know.

Brendan McLaughlin
607 Posted 16/06/2023 at 23:10:11
Tony #533,

See Michael #605.

Seems your logic confuses more than me.

(Apologies, MK)

Don Alexander
608 Posted 16/06/2023 at 23:51:44
Firstly I can only assume that "Mason" (heh-heh) has been afflicted by sunstroke lately, so disdainful is his post @ #584 to very many of us fellow Toffees.

Moving on though, there is to me startling and worrying similarities between Kenwright and Boris Johnson. They both deny 24-carat truth, and they both find enough gormless supporters to sustain their self-projected fantastical and absurd behaviour despite the fact they both still openly spout shite.

That said, even the abhorrent so-called Tory Party have, since Johnson was eventually decreed a serial liar to the enormous personal cost of so very many millions of us, begun to distance themselves from him and his dreadful career.

Meanwhile, Kenwright remains in post and the only informed opinion of him (Mason's aside, I suppose), and that's us, is largely ignored by the world, not least because our profile as a "big" club was dead in the wider world almost immediately Kenwright took over.

Steve Brown
609 Posted 17/06/2023 at 01:53:52
Moving away from the debate about the elusive Kenwright for a moment, in other news the Toffee Lady has been seen round Goodison and she seems to have put on a ton of weight lately.
Kieran Kinsella
610 Posted 17/06/2023 at 01:54:41
Paul Ferry

Obviously, Martin Mason is an odd duck but I was simply pointing out that Brent (who I have never met but seems like a solid bloke) vouched for him and Neil Copeland who I have met and is a solid bloke concurred.

As to Martin trying to silence rival voices, it's funny hearing criticism from you as the self-appointed custodian of ToffeeWeb recently suggesting Ian Edwards, Don and Mark should desist from posting as their comments didn't meet your approval based on your (what was it 50? 60? years) since your vivid memory at Goodison as a 2-year-old apparently gave you some kind of kudos above other posters.

Give it a rest with the know-it-all self-righteous censoring schtick, mate. You're no better or wiser than any other fan.

Bob Parrington
611 Posted 17/06/2023 at 03:04:48
Michael@ #596 - Well put. This is something we should all adhere to but, from time to time, anybody on here can perhaps get overly exasperated with what goes on at Everton. We are passionate supporters.

Thanks for handling it sensitively!

Kim Vivian
612 Posted 17/06/2023 at 06:10:42
Bill, 591,

Yes, I realise the window has only just opened and there is still a fair time to go which is why I bracketed that part of the comment. However, given how long we seem to take to put deals to bed, every second counts as they say.

Gary Brown
613 Posted 17/06/2023 at 06:24:01
Steve Brown - Health and Safety execs stopped her throwing the toffees into the crowd (seriously) so what else can she do but eat ‘em all.
Pete Clarke
614 Posted 17/06/2023 at 06:24:03
Could it possibly be that Kenwright is trying to hoodwink Moshiri in believing that without him at the club (Kenwright) all of the attention and blame will swing over to Moshiri himself and is willing to stay and happily take all of the blame.

This investment is one thing but in reality we do need a complete new set of faces at the top to make better decisions.
Brent Stephens
615 Posted 17/06/2023 at 06:59:30
Kieran #610, thanks for your assessment of me as a "solid bloke". I'd like to agree! - I guess we all see ourselves as "solid blokes" (and blokesses).

I did meet Martin, for the first time, at the most recent Wolves away game, along with Neil who you referred to (also a first meet for me), Mark Murphy (also a first meet) and Danny (a frequent "meet"). Solid blokes, all.

On the basis of one meeting, I have to say, again, that Martin seemed a really nice guy. At the same time, I have to say that Martin can be a tad acerbic in his posts, and would probably acknowledge that.

Martin, all I'd say is you're a lovely fella in person; you might want to just dial it down a wee bit online. And I really hope you take that in the right way, Martin.

A case of two truths being possible at the same time: the Martin I've met (lovely fella), and the Martin online, occasionally.

All together: Two Martin Masons, there's only two Martin Masons...

Steve Brown
617 Posted 17/06/2023 at 07:14:49
Gary, I was actually wondering if they couldn’t locate Bill as he had adopted a cunning disguise!
John Belshaw
618 Posted 17/06/2023 at 07:38:06
Everton's self-imposed deadline for determining Kenwright's future was a typographical error. It should have read:

‘A decision will be made in 4 - 8 months' (or quite possibly years?). Blame the Everton communications office!

Tony Abrahams
619 Posted 17/06/2023 at 07:56:11
You might be right Brendan, although I don't think my logic is confusing Michael, rather than it might be starting to bore and annoy him maybe. (Let us know if it is Michael.)

Who really cares about Moshiri buying Kenwright's shares? Kenwright owns just over 1%, so surely this is an insignificant amount to have any real power moving forward?

The Esk never said “there was or there wasn't” a contract between Kenwright and Moshiri that enables our saviour to stay on as chairman (something you jumped on, as if to say – this was proof there isn't such a contract) but considering what little power Mr Kenwright still has the fact that he has remained does seem very strange imo.

Everton Football Club is a shambles and also a total embarrassment right now. Why get rid of three directors but keep one on saying there will be an update in 48 hours, even though every person who is cynical (but not really cynical) could have predicted nothing would happen (and this is not me trying to be wise after the event).

Why didn't they just wait until everything was in place before getting rid of the whole board, instead of sacking three and leaving the one that most people want out the most to remain?

If the highest paid director was on £870,000, this means that at least three other people were receiving wages, which can be confusing considering how small the Everton board has been. How many paid directors did Everton have in 2022, because there had to be more than the three you mentioned Brendan, otherwise the sums don't add up.

Mark Murphy
620 Posted 17/06/2023 at 08:08:45
Good God - what's he said now??

I've been away a couple of days but I'd just like to say, from a personal point of view, I have different views and opinions to many on here and quite often phrase my thoughts, erm, unwisely. As is possible with others, this is usually dependant on the time of day I post.

Pre yard-arm, I can be reasonable; in the evenings and a few drinks down, I make “errors of judgement” and pick fights. It runs in the family.

What I would like to make abundantly clear is that I am not a Kenwright acolyte, fan or defender. I think he's a fraud and useless in his role as Chairman and should not be anywhere near the posh seats or the boardroom of any football club, let alone ours.

Regarding my learned friend, neighbour and occasional match company, I would add that he is also not a Kenwright fan. He sees some things different to me and we have friendly disagreements about those but he is most certainly not as he comes across in some of his posts.

He just seems, like me at certain times of day, to be a tad more confrontational than he needs to be. He's not the only one though. Brent has it about right in his post earlier.

For my part, I'm going to avoid posting in the evenings. In fact, I'm going to avoid reading in the evenings as sometimes the temptation to respond is too great.

We're all Blues we're just all different.

UTFT

Michael Kenrick
621 Posted 17/06/2023 at 09:03:15
Tony @619,

Perhaps the hardest thing to do in these circumstances is to take a step back (actually… quite a few steps back) and reassess what we really know as fact, then try to dissociate that from the speculation and misinformation that has become accepted folklore about Kenwright and such related issues.

Now I'm no expert on this, and keeping up with every inference and innuendo that has been put forward about what he may or may not have done over the past 20-30 years is simply not possible with any degree of certainty.

But your 'logic' is compelling: Kenwright is Chairman of the Board of Directors. The Directors are paid a vast fortune according to the accounts, Everton having one of the highest-paid boards in the Premier League. It's therefore obvious beyond any doubt that Kenwright is paid handsomely for his role at Everton. Compelling… but just not true as far as can be best established from published information, taking the emotion and the 'Evertonian wisdom' out of the equation for a moment.

I would then revert back to the facts that can be established. For many years while Kenwright was Chairman and there were no executive directors, the Directors' Pay in the accounts was zero. You can check this yourself if you look back through the published accounts. (You're not going to do that, are you, Tony?)

So you're left with a choice: believe the compelling 'logic' that sits fine in your head? Or look for some evidence that would support the facts?

For fear of labouring the point, here's another facet of your 'logic':

Considering what little power Mr Kenwright still has, the fact that he has remained does seem very strange.

Okay, how do you know what little power he has? He is the Chairman of Everton Football Club. He has held that position since 2004 and has apparently wielded that power to considerable effect. Yes, his personal shareholding has declined to insignificance, and shareholding is the ultimate power within Everton, but he is still in the role of Chairman, while the CEO actually runs ran the club, so I would not want to conflate those things.

I think he has remained because Moshiri has not wanted to oust him. I don't think there needs to be a contract or an agreement (although there might well be, but as Brendan says, we just don't know).

This is the problem with spewing forth a bile-filled rant on a virtually daily basis — you have to believe every snippet of what have heard (or thought you heard) and of course it all has to be 'true', or at least accepted as true by most right-thinking Evertonians...

Well, no. That's the problem. None of us have a real grasp on the truth here, which is why no one bothers trying to challenge 95% of what's said. But when you say something that is demonstrably wrong, someone might pop their head over the parapet and point it out to you.

James Marshall
622 Posted 17/06/2023 at 09:32:18
This has been the longest 48 hours of my life.
Michael Kenrick
624 Posted 17/06/2023 at 10:00:49
Alan @513,

Under the Articles of Association for Everton FC, is it possible for the Company to be run by two directors, one in Monaco?

The Articles of Association require that the board consist of a minimum of three directors, so No is the short answer.

But the Company is not actually run by the directors – they just sit on the board. The CEO and the rest of the so-called C-Level mob of executives are supposed to run the company, and confusingly in Everton's case, some of them did sit on the board, but they have manifestly failed to do this properly, and Moshiri has finally seen sense and dispensed with their services.

I don't think there is any requirement for the directors to be or live anywhere specifically, so some can be in London, some in Monaco – although the one you might be thinking of who does live in Monaco is not a director, never has been a director, and I imagine is most unlikely to ever be a director of Everton FC.

I don't know why it has to be this complicated. Seems passing the buck by all members of the 'great board' was an unwritten clause in their Articles of Association.

Stephen Davies
625 Posted 17/06/2023 at 10:17:24
From another Board.

The author used to write for the fan mag When Skies Are Grey.

Probably 12-13 years ago, I worked for an investment bank in London part-owned by the Qataris. As such, the CEO had regular conversations with them about all kinds of projects as you can imagine.

He shouted me into his office one day and showed me an email: headline “Proceed Project Everton” — The Qataris wanted to buy EFC.

He told me the following week he'd spent all day Sunday at BK's place in Little Venice trying to convince him they'd be good owners, but was told that discussions were already too far down the line with Sheik Mansour and it was too late. For those with long memories, I posted on here at the time that we had a contested bid situation.

Nothing ever came of the Qatari approach more than that, no idea why we didn't go back after Mr Green stuck his nose in to block the other deal (which a certain friend of mine was coincidentally also leading on behalf of the Sheik, so I got told a few of the things that happened.…).

Presumably it went no further because Sheik Mansour had been told we were no longer for sale, to him or the Qataris?

This potential purchase of Man Utd now (albeit years afterwards) made me wonder just how many times we can miss out: NTL take stakes in clubs…. and go bust before we can agree, win the dock stadium (after bidder #1 goes bust at the last minute)……& have no finance in place, turn down oil money twice….and Russian war whips our legs away with Usmanov.

It's a fair old saga of what could have been, innit?

Neil Copeland
626 Posted 17/06/2023 at 10:26:25
Kieran @610 and Brent @615, thanks for the compliment. I can also vouch for you both too!

In fact, I don't think anyone I have met through TW has been anything other than a decent bloke, even Martin Mason (just teasing, Martin).

I think Mark at 620 sums it up well, we all do daft things at times. Written word can be interpreted differently to the intended meaning and sometimes the keyboard warrior inside just takes over.

So, Martin, chill out a bit, mate – you are better than that.

Alex Gray
627 Posted 17/06/2023 at 10:26:27
What really irks me about all of this is that there's once again a feeling of frustration. It's not even the fact Bill hasn't gone, it's the dire communication that's plagued this club for years.

Don't make a statement saying 48 hours if you can't meet it. Simply say a decision will be made in due course. It's not what fans want to hear but sometimes these issues can be complex.

It's just another example of a club that can't do the absolute basics. If something has halted it for whatever reason, make an announcement – don't just leave an entire fanbase hanging on.

It's prime Tory tactics. No leadership, leaving everyone in a state of confusion so everyone has a go at each other about what's best, dividing us when in reality the leadership are to blame.

I want Kenwright gone but the day Moshiri finally leaves will be a good day for this club. I honestly have no idea how he has ever made money because the bloke is the most incompetent owner I've ever witnessed. What we need now is leadership that the fans can at least respect, even if we don't agree.

On another note, the longer this get dragged out it's going to affect our summer business which needs to be perfect. Teams are signing targets. Yes, I know the window opens in July but teams are still pre-signing players and the longer we're stuck in Blue Bill's theatrical farewell, the less time we're going to be focusing on the actual squad, the thing that's been neglected for years now.

Does anyone know what's going on with MSP? I guess it's still happening but it's been "imminent" for half a year now…

Raymond Fox
628 Posted 17/06/2023 at 10:28:10
Three things that annoy, are opinions stated as facts, how posters love to row in with the majority view and anyone that doesn't follow the 'party line' are jumped on.
Dave Abrahams
629 Posted 17/06/2023 at 10:32:18
Michael (624)

The short answer, but probably the wrong one, to why Mr Moshiri has never been a director and is not likely to be a director is that Moshiri has always been the messenger acting for Mr Usmanov who has always been the money man behind the purchase of Everton and would have eventually taken over Everton when the time was right. Unfortunately, the war in Ukrania put a stop to that.

Just a thought!

Chris Williams
630 Posted 17/06/2023 at 10:33:26
The Companies Act requires a private Limited Company to have a minimum of one director. That probably trumps the Articles of Association.

Bill is currently last man standing.

Brendan McLaughlin
631 Posted 17/06/2023 at 10:47:22
Tony #619

I don't think anyone would ever consider you boring but judging by Michael's #621 post you may cross the annoying threshold occasionally but most of us do that.

On the point of the "Keep Bill" clause I wasn't jumping on anything merely pointing that The Guardian and the Esk were the first "sources" to imply there is no impediment to Moshiri getting rid of Blue Bill.

Surely that's a positive, Tony?

ps: I haven't addressed any of your other points as Michael #621 seems to have answered them much better than I could.

Mark Murphy
632 Posted 17/06/2023 at 10:49:05
John Keating?

Are you the JK I used to know from the old NTAS?

If so how the devil are you?

If not, hello anyway! 👍

Martin Farrington
633 Posted 17/06/2023 at 11:01:07
Chris #630. Can you assist?

1) What if Bill refuses to cooperate and go?

2) How can we get rid of him if he is the only one left? It's impossible not to breach the law. Sacking him leaves no one.
Does our Accountancy Genius need to employ another person to give them the title of Vice Chairman in order to hoof St Billy of Blue?

3) If our greatest-ever chairman keels over and disappears up in a puff of blue smoke. what happens?

Presumably we return to the Premier League / High Court naughty step that we've made our own?

Thanks in advance for any sanity in your reply.

Brian Harrison
634 Posted 17/06/2023 at 11:08:24
Martin 633,

According to all the press reports, Kenwright wanted to resign when the other board members resigned but Moshiri asked him not to. So I don't think we have to worry about him not wanting to leave.

Probably Moshiri realised that, if Kenwright walked when the other board members resigned, he would be left without a director which is against the rules.

Also everybody on the thread about summer transfers mentioning who we might sign but, without Kenwright, we don't have a director to negotiate with potential signings.

Tony Abrahams
635 Posted 17/06/2023 at 11:08:32
Fair enough, Michael, but most of my rants are about Kenwright not being good enough for Everton, and have usually been centered around this absolute fact, and also why he wouldn't or won't relinquish this terrible association with Everton, rather than what money he has made, out of being a clever, lying, manipulative, nepotistic bastard!!

I don't like the fact he's made a lot of money out of Everton Football Club for one reason only, because I believe he has not only held us back as a football club, but he has also taken us that far backwards, that we have become an insignificance to anyone but Evertonians.

If you think Brendan is insinuating that we don't know, Michael, with regards wether there is a contract between Moshiri and Kenwright, you have read his post @531, totally different to me mate.

I think Brendan is leaning towards there not being a contract, and he might also be correct, but either way I just want both Moshiri and Kenwright, gone.

I found it strange that Brendan brought what the esk said, about Moshiri having an agreement to buy Kenwright's remaining shares in place, to probably mean there is no such contract in place, especially whilst Bill Kenwright is the only director left.

The last man standing, so to speak, and the more I think about the clubs actions this week, the more incredibly embarrassed, bemused, and sick I feel, with what I can only describe as absolute amateurism.

Maybe I am cynical, but anyone who believes the only reason Kenwright has stayed on is to help Moshiri, definitely thinks a lot differently than me.

Alex Gray
636 Posted 17/06/2023 at 11:29:18
Fresh reports (from The Guardian again) that the MSP buy out is not happening until the future of Kenwright is decided.

Everton stuck in limbo as boardroom turmoil stalls Dyche’s rebuilding plan

Tony Abrahams
637 Posted 17/06/2023 at 11:30:21
I've surprised both of us, Michael, and just typed in Everton's board of directors.

The Russians left in 2021, and Brands left in December 2021, so although they might still be on the club's books for tax purposes, they should not have still been receiving money in 2022, although this might not be the case with Brands, because he never left the club until the end of the previous year.

This just left a list of Moshiri, Kenwright, Barrett-Baxendale, Ingles and Sharp. Moshiri is not a director; it is said that Kenwright, receives nothing, and I've also read that Sharp, doesn't receive any money for his position (which I find hard to believe – simply because very few people do anything for nothing, especially whilst undoing a fantastic legacy for standing behind his boss, who is paying him nothing for saying nowt!) So that just leaves Barrett-Braxendale and Ingles, who should have received money.

Maths was my strongest subject at school, and although I haven't got all the facts, £890 thousand definitely goes into over £3 million, a lot more than twice. What else am I missing? No wonder there are rumours about the club's hearing in October being over tax.

Brendan McLaughlin
638 Posted 17/06/2023 at 11:38:39
Tony #635

"I found it strange that Brendan brought what the esk said, about Moshiri having an agreement to buy Kenwright's remaining shares in place, to probably mean there is no such contract in place, especially whilst Bill Kenwright is the only director left."

I didn't.

I was referencing the fact that the Esk had apparently stated there was no impediment to Moshiri getting rid of Blue Bill. I even copied and pasted the statement I was referring to. I never at any point mentioned the proposed purchase of Blue Bills shares by Moshiri as being in any way significant.

Tony Abrahams
639 Posted 17/06/2023 at 11:49:42
I don't always read you this way Brendan. I read you differently sometimes mate, and although you view it as a positive, I never viewed it like this when you first wrote it.

Maybe if I spoke with you verbally we would get on really well, but I sometimes see your little snippets as adding nothing whatsoever, although I'm sure some people might put me wise, and say you often speak a lot of sense.

Bill Kenwright, has had his time, and so as Moshiri. One kept us stable (I'm being kind) whilst going backwards as a football club, imo, whilst the other has got the ball rolling on the dream of a fantastic new stadium (better than any trophy hey Bill) but has helped to take every single ounce of professionalism out of our club.

One of the first things I learned as a child, was to only annoy the people who annoyed me Brendan, so this probably explains quite a few of my posts, mate👍💙

ps: With it being reported that Kenwright was leaving, I assumed that what you wrote had already been dealt with, Brendan. Sorry, mate.

Michael Kenrick
640 Posted 17/06/2023 at 11:51:15
Thanks for the heads-up. Alex @636, I added the link.

Some good stuff in there... maybe:

"Moshiri can remove Kenwright as chairman whenever he wishes, irrespective of the 77-year-old holding 1,750 shares in the club, but has so far failed to do so."

Otherwise, pretty much a rehash of all we already know. In other words, another day rolls by…

Chris Williams
642 Posted 17/06/2023 at 11:56:52
Martin, much of this debate is speculation. Certain things we can take as fact, like the Companies Act.

So another fact is that the Chairman is answerable to the Shareholders. The Shareholders can remove the Chairman. Just go through the process, and do it. It happens daily, especially where it's not a quoted company.

Back to speculation. If he's not been removed, and he's not resigned, there must be a reason. Any removal and the announcement of any new interim directors could be simultaneous.

That may be because of the sale and valuation of Bill's shares. It may be to do with the wording of any announcement made, or Bill's “legacy”.

It may be to do with an NDA.

It may be that he's angry and pissed off, or trying to make Moshiri sweat.

Who knows… but it is possibly holding up the appointment of new directors, who may be reluctant with an existing Chairman in place.

It may even be to do with an existing agreement with Bill about his status.

But the longer this goes on, with no resolution, the more damaging it can become.

Michael Kenrick
643 Posted 17/06/2023 at 11:57:41
Dave @629,

I think I've read that about Usmanov before. In fact, I think it's been posted before… actually, quite a few times.

I've been reading there's a newly defined internet rule (perhaps just for ToffeeWeb): If enough people repeat the same unproven speculation enough times, it eventually becomes established fact.

Tony Abrahams
644 Posted 17/06/2023 at 11:57:54
If what Andy Hunter writes in The Guardian is true, then it seems that someone of significance has put MSP wise to William Kenwright, aka Chairman Bill — or maybe they have just been reading ToffeeWeb!!
Will Mabon
645 Posted 17/06/2023 at 12:02:19
Chris,

You forgot one option - Moshiri may still want Kenwright there. :-O

Danny O’Neill
647 Posted 17/06/2023 at 12:10:50
Nothing illiterate about that, Jim @595.

Very well written and you get your points, that I mostly would concur with, very well.

We get a range of views and opinions on here about the one thing we all agree with. Sometimes it gets a bit passionate, occasionally, we may go a bit too far.

The written word is sometimes very different from the spoken. It's easy to boil over and hit send as opposed to having a face-to-face conversation. Some are good/bad at getting their opinion across in writing. Some are good/bad at getting their opinion across in talking. We are all supporters of Everton. No one is better, no one is worse.

On Martin, fast becoming the star of this thread, Brent sums it up. I met Marton at a couple of away matches last season, and he's a good person and passionate Evertonian.

Meanwhile it's day 3 in the Big Everton Brother House after the 48-hour deadline. Nothing, not even a communicative update.

Bill Watson
648 Posted 17/06/2023 at 12:26:46
Chris #642,

Yes, the shareholders in a company can pass a motion of no confidence in a chairman/woman but in Everton's case this is irrelevant because i) we don't have AGMs and ii) Moshiri holds over 90% of the shares.

The Everton shareholders are completely powerless. The only person who can remove Kenwright is Moshiri.

Nick Page
649 Posted 17/06/2023 at 12:27:20
Stalin said that, Michael. Or was it Bill Kenwright? Hmm…need to brush up on my dictators.

Meanwhile the transfer window is open and clubs are doing business.

Meanwhile at Everton FC, Kenwright is still trying his best to ruin this football club for personal gain. Have some decency for once and just fuck off.

Mike Hayes
650 Posted 17/06/2023 at 12:29:28
Kenwright offered his resignation knowing full well that if the other 3 left he'd still be able to cling on knowing the board needs a director.

He couldn't direct anyone to a notice board – slimy snake-oil salesman waits until the rest go so he knows he has to stay. 🤡😡

Brian Harrison
651 Posted 17/06/2023 at 12:37:32
Chris 642,

Absolutely spot on about the alternatives that Moshiri has, as I said in an earlier post maybe the fact that Kenwright is the only director also gives Moshiri a problem.

As I said a few days ago, while Moshiri is the major shareholder, nothing at this club will change.

Paul Ferry
652 Posted 17/06/2023 at 12:37:43
Great stuff, Kieran:

“It's funny hearing criticism from you as the self-appointed custodian of ToffeeWeb recently suggesting Ian Edwards, Don and Mark should desist from posting as their comments didn't meet your approval based on your (what was it 50? 60? years) since your vivid memory at Goodison as a 2-year-old apparently gave you some kind of kudos above other posters.”

Do show me chapter and verse where I say these three should "desist" from posting. I should be flattered, I suppose, being called a "custodian" if that's what you manage to squeeze out of my post. Still, I'd rather be that than an organiser of Dr Who or is it Star Trek conventions!

Christine Foster
653 Posted 17/06/2023 at 12:44:03
They say patience is a virtue, well every Evertonian must be so virtuous by now, we must all be going to heaven.

My take is thus: I have said before that the two men are cut from the same cloth, but I actually think they have each other's back.

Consider Kenwright’s vitriol with fans and the fact he has stymied as much as he can; any communication links to the fan base, when he does, it's to blame or condemn. Moshiri appears to hold the fans in the same regards, as trying to blame managerial changes on the fans etc.

I think the delay may well be an attempt to include Kenwright as well as Moshiri in some capacity, hence the time for negotiating with MSP who don't seem to want to play ball.

One has to ask why, if Moshiri knew this was coming, why there are no interim appointments in place as CEO or Finance Director (w ho is driving the bus?)

I think the Articles of Association could easily be sorted with interim until MSP have a green light.

So.. incompetence or someone pulling a last-minute fast one to try to stay involved? I am starting to believe the latter…

Michael Kenrick
654 Posted 17/06/2023 at 12:45:07
Tony @

What else am I missing?

You seem to be missing the possibility that it's not quite as simple as dividing one number by another and concluding that, yes, Bill is getting loads.

For example, you say Brands left in December 2021, and I think it's probably safe to assume that his was the highest salary, listed at £2.041M (per year?) in the 2021 accounts.

Now the thing about the accounts is the Financial Year actually run from July to June, and I think it's safe to speculate that therefore roughly one-half of Brands's final year salary would appear on the Everton books for FY 2021-22.

So let's take the Directors Emoluments, £3.050M and subtract ½ of his salary of £2.041M before we do the division:

£3.050M – (£2.041M / 2) = £2.0295M

Now divide that number by the highest director's salary in 2021-22, £868k and it goes in 2.3 times. Does that help?

(Remember, it's 'Emoluments' not salaries. Emoluments are money or other forms of payment which a person receives for doing work. So unless you are working for the auditor and can see exactly how these numbers are made up, you haven’t got a Scooby.

But I feel sure, thanks to Brendan's input, that Bill isn't getting any wage or salary.

You're right, it's now getting annoying. Any chance we can finally please just drop this???

Chris Williams
655 Posted 17/06/2023 at 12:58:50
Will,

You’re quite right, about that.

There were only ever a couple of reasons for Kenwright’s continued tenure.

Moshiri wanted him there

Moshiri couldn’t get rid of him for whatever reason

I doubt the former is the case currently, Will, so the answer is the latter perhaps, or some of the other possibilities mentioned, or a combination.

And down the rabbit hole we go again.

I think we need to think on that the Financial year is approaching rapidly, plus the window is also open.

The accounts need to be pristine and above reproach, and the budget for the window must be similar

Anthony Hawkins
656 Posted 17/06/2023 at 13:05:42
I think the absence of directors at the game is to do with pending departures and the security reason was a smoke screen to hide the impending deal, which they weren’t sure when it would complete.
Tony Abrahams
657 Posted 17/06/2023 at 13:17:18
Just as I was starting to get educated, you want to drop it Michael!

Thanks for the advice

Mike Hayes
658 Posted 17/06/2023 at 13:27:58
According to a Twitter post the slime ball is suppose to be stepping down 🤷
Dan Brierley
659 Posted 17/06/2023 at 13:51:18
Michael, you nail it in your post in 643. Confirmation bias doesn't even have to based on the truth anymore.

Bill Kenwright is played out as a pantomime villain on this page, which is kind of ironic given how he made his money.

All of these 'truths' which have built up over the years (Kings Dock, Arteta money, takes a huge salary, takes expenses, made 5000% profit on selling his shares, sold Rooney, sold the training ground, train set etc.) have become concrete facts. There are some people I have spoken to who genuinely believe Kenwright is trying to get a statue of himself at Bramley-Moore Dock.

One of the biggest failures of this board (in my opinion) is listening to our fans too much. Protests for the sacking of Martinez, Koeman, and Silva were all acted upon, resulting in the unbalanced squads that have plagued us for years. The club (rightly) wanted to bring in Pereira after Benitez, but more protests influenced the board to bring in Frank Lampard instead.

I hope whoever comes in will be brave enough to have some stability, even in the face of fan pressure. Arsenal is a good example: it wasn't that long ago there were protests against the board and Arteta.

Dave Abrahams
660 Posted 17/06/2023 at 14:02:06
Dan (659),

Yes getting to the truth of some things is hard to do sometimes.

I'd like some definite proof on two things:

(1) That Kenwright was ever a genuine Everton supporter growing up;

(2) How much money he paid for his share of buying into Everton, that's if he ever paid anything?

Bill Gall
661 Posted 17/06/2023 at 14:12:22
Kim 612

Sorry, I was not trying to criticize your posting. I was just trying to say that, knowing the way Everton operate, we will be trying to get in a player we needed from the beginning of the transfer window in the last hour of the transfer window.

Dale Self
662 Posted 17/06/2023 at 14:21:53
On information bias: Ash-Solomon effect is when you believe lies expressed by those around you. Confirmation bias is when you only select information that is conducive to held beliefs. I think we have a mix of those two effects.

The Ash-Solomon experiment is where a shorter line is shown with a larger line and subjects are observed to express what is exhibited by those around them. I think Cass Sunstein is credited with confirmation bias in his book on 21st century info environments

Will Mabon
663 Posted 17/06/2023 at 14:31:52
"Confirmation bias is when you only select information that is conducive to held beliefs."

So you believe in confirmation bias, Dale. That's confirmation bias.

Dale Self
664 Posted 17/06/2023 at 14:35:30
I can only confirm that a concept called confirmation bias exists and is described as above. I keep my own belief system free from such impurities Will.
Dan Brierley
665 Posted 17/06/2023 at 14:46:25
Dave 660, that is an interesting one. What exactly are you expecting? Some kind of detailed dossier showing Bill Kenwright's history as an Everton fan? Ticket stubs? Photos? Witness testimonies?

For the second point, I'm not sure Bill Kenwright, Farhad Moshiri (or any other business owner) paid anything from their own personal wealth. People own companies or shell companies that are used for these types of business transactions.

It is the same when companies or shares are sold. They don't just pay a cheque into people's personal bank accounts. As mentioned above, people just throw out a statement such as 'Kenwright made £80 million from selling his shares', which becomes true in people's minds. Hence the vociferous hatred. In reality, he may not even have seen a penny from that transaction.

Will Mabon
666 Posted 17/06/2023 at 14:54:28
Then you must be prepared to admit that your belief system may be impure, Dale.
Paul Ferry
667 Posted 17/06/2023 at 15:14:17
Dan (Brierley): 659.

Which of the following is not in your opinion a fact?

Kenwright and his misldeading/amateur handling of Kings dock?

The Arteta money was not reinvested on much needed players or anything else that benefitted the club?

Kenwright made a massive profit on selling his shares?

The sale of Rooney was sanctioned for "much needed" money (I believe Rooney on this - that he wanted to stay for one more season - by the way)?

The training ground was sold, wasn't it?

Salary? Expenses? Well salary is a bone of contention on this thread right now, and the balance seems to suggest that he does not take one. Expenses? Well, do you think Kenwright pays his own travel to the match - when he goes, for one?

You conveniently left a few things out Dan, like the alleged refusal to entertain Mansour because, in your words Dan, he wanted to keep hold of his "train set" (there is more to support that on this thread); "I mortgaged the house"; the Kirkby travesty; the they always ask what would Everton do lie; the attack on fans; and so on and so on.

Far worse for this club Dan are people who offer some sort of smokescreen for Kenwright and who offer some sort of defence or justification of someone, Kenwright, who has on more than one occasion acted against the best interests of the club, so that the. narcissistic "he" keeps his grubby hands on the reins.

The real sickness at them heart of this club is not the fans (as you and one or two others suggest on here) but the common denominator, the one common denominator, who has been in the boardroom since 1989, and presided and directed over the worst years in our history. Kenwright the narcissist who has done more damage to this club than anyone since Heysel and who was a member of the board who so destructively failed to take on board the new commercial and financial imperatives of the Premier League era.

Peter Gorman
668 Posted 17/06/2023 at 15:19:58
Dave A, Michael and friends,

My hot-take on whether or not Usmanov 'owns' or has 'influence' at Everton is that it is almost improbable that he doesn't.

I don't have to know much other than how oligarchs have been proven to operate and then balance the probabilities.

Is it likely that Usmanov moved money into his confidante's name in order to obfuscate it's ownership, as oligarchs routinely do with friends and family, partly but not exclusively to avoid sanctions.

Or did he feel rather generous to his accountant and give him enough money to eventually buy and sell enough shares in Arsenal to be wealthy enough to 'own' Everton.

Hard to prove isn't it, especially as the entire purpose of such activity is to be as obscure as possible, and doubtless the money is very much in Moshiri's name (which is the entire effing point). But little breadcrumbs like USM finch farm etc. suggest that the alternative possibility is hardly some fringe loon theory.

Oh to be trying to decipher the accounts as part of due diligence!

Paul Ferry
669 Posted 17/06/2023 at 15:20:45
"In reality, he may not even have seen a penny from that transaction [selling his shares]".

Did you really just post that Dan?

So, what? Kenwright sold his shares for nothing? Kenwright pumped more money into Everton than he got for selling his shares?

Can you provide a single scrap of evidence/feasible speculation to make us think that Kenwright got nothing from selling his shares.

You do, after all, mention false truth in your post.

Martin Mason
670 Posted 17/06/2023 at 15:25:04
Not really sure what I’ve said out of line.

Dave Abrahams
671 Posted 17/06/2023 at 15:45:14
Dan (665),

First of all, you didn't get tickets when you paid your entrance fee into the Boys Pen, the place where Kenwright said he watched Everton from as a boy.

It's strange that he details how his Uncle Cyril used to take him to Anfield on the crossbar of his bike to watch Liverpool after being passed up the Kop to where Cyril stood but gives no details of how he got Goodison to watch Everton or who took him there and who he watched Everton with — and Everton were his favourite club!!

As for the details of his shares, how he bought them is a bit of a mystery and as for no money being passed on buying them, surely now after 6 years, the money he received for selling them must be on record in his bank details — along with the second lot of shares he sold at large profit.

I mean, you do believe he sold them — or is that another myth that poor Bill has to put up with?

Dale Self
672 Posted 17/06/2023 at 15:47:27
Will 666, you devil, while I accept your proposition that I must be prepared to admit that my belief system is impure, I reject the notion outright. ;)
Nick Page
673 Posted 17/06/2023 at 15:52:02
Bill Kenwright isn't an Evertonian… Fact.

Bill Kenwright is an actor… Fact.

Bill Kenwright used Everton as a stage… Fact.

Bill Kenwright made lots of money from selling his shares… Fact. or

Everton and its fans (the actual club) got nothing back from this arrangement… Another fact.

Facts, facts, facts. Fact.

Danny O’Neill
674 Posted 17/06/2023 at 16:02:50
Dan Brierly,

I'm one who doesn't care how much Bill Kenwright has been or not been paid.

I don't know if he is hanging on to get a good sevrerance deal or not. I don't actually care.

I don't know if he is just being kept in place until the new board is put in place. I hope that is the case and we get an announcement shortly.

But what I do believe is that he has been in place in one form or another since 1989. The longest steady decline in our history of being able to realistically compete. On the pitch and off it

He has been the consistent influence in the transition from being Champions to plucky little Everton.

Given the big Evertonian he is, he was compliant in turning on his own and falsely accusing them. That won't be forgiven by those who turn up every single match, home, away and watching from distance.

No going back now. No return.

I consider myself a big Evertonian. They mean everything to me aside from my family. If I was in his shoes, I'd have gone years ago and gladly sat amongst the supporters again as he once did, in his own words. The time for change should have been when Moshiri took over. Thanks, Bill, here is the clock, thank you and goodbye.

He cannot remain and the owner needs to act. Then we move forward.

Dale Self
675 Posted 17/06/2023 at 16:09:24
As Peter 668 stated and others alluded our exercise of pointing fingers in different directions is a feature not a bug of Everton's present management practices.

We could tear down each other's theories for lack of proof but, with these clowns, it is more productive to speculate in as careful a way as you can until you get bored and leap to a conclusion. They could have cleared up or at least obscurely addressed any of the questions if it was in their interest.

Damn. I wish i had used the FACT format Nick just whipped out.

Will Mabon
676 Posted 17/06/2023 at 16:25:16
Dale - haha! (672).

It does though, show the nonsense of certain attempts at supposedly advancing understanding (whilst it's actually used mostly as a put-down).

Brendan McLaughlin
677 Posted 17/06/2023 at 16:26:13
No Dale #675

Pagerism is frowned upon on this forum.

Michael Kenrick
Editorial Team
678 Posted 17/06/2023 at 16:34:03
Martin @670,

Not really sure what I’ve said out of line.

Martin, please look post #596, which includes portions of your post @584. These are the things you’ve said that are unacceptable.

John Keating @597 also has some views on your post.

Derek Thomas
679 Posted 17/06/2023 at 17:13:51
Ray Smith @ 557;

Q) "Can somebody explain to me, how the board can democratically trade without an AGM? I know they've done it, but through my naivety, how can this go unchallenged?"

A) Because, with one guy holding 94(?)% - it isn't a Democracy.

Bill will go when he's made to go - and not before.

We can maybe assume he's effectively gone now, but until the new guy is 'In', and is seen to be In, we, the Munchkins, can't sing our song and / or have a body to dance around... which is what we think (hope) we need to crack on towards the Bright New Jerusalem.

Michael Kenrick
680 Posted 17/06/2023 at 17:24:08
Peter @668,

I don't think I'd disagree with any of what you have written there to charcterize the probable relationship with Usmanov.

The distinction I think I was trying to draw was the point where speculation and supposition become accepted as fact. Rejection of it as being a fact, and wanting to revert instead to it being recognized and acknowledged as speculation, is not quite the same as calling it "some fringe loon theory".

It's speculation; it could quite possibly be true; but it's not evidenced fact.

Whereas this thorny one Dan raises @665 about Kenwright's shares is a bit more nuanced.

Everton shares were certainly issued to and held by or in the name of William Kenwright MBE. His holding has been listed in the Annual Reports. His name appears in various forms on the list of Shareholders submitted to Companies House.

Those shares had a value, which was widley published at the time they were reportedly purchased by Moshiri. (Strictly, as you rightly say, by his shell company, Blue Horizon Investments Limited.)

Did the proceeds go to Kenwright? Of course we cannot know this for sure but it is not such an outrageous inference to make.

Did money go back to entities that lent him money to buy the shares originally? Again, we cannot possibly know.

But the shorthand is that Kenwright sold the shares and that Kenwright benefited from the proceeds. The figure I have estimated so far, conservatively, is £40M. I don't think £80M is realistic, but it could be more than £40M.

I think on balance you'd have a much harder time trying to show that he did not profit from the sale of the shares that he definitely held. But a good one to throw out there as an example of just what it is we do know and what we do not know. (At risk of doing a Dick Cheney, so I'll stop now!)

Mark Taylor
681 Posted 17/06/2023 at 17:24:53
Are there actually any people on here at all who think it's a good idea for Kenwright to continue? We might differ in our interpretations of his activities but surely not in the conclusion to draw?

Martin (or should that be Mason?) appears to be being cited as a potential 'sycophant'. I don't personally know anyone on here but my impression is from his posts generally, he has as little time for Kenwright as the rest of us but regards the owner as even more culpable (correct me if I'm wrong, Martin).

It is our laughing stock position that is making us all angry and it is but a short step to starting to get angry with each other – something I imagine might please Kenwright. Let not our passion about this get too much in the way.

I think recent events suggest we as fans do have influence but we do not have control, and certainly not over what happens next. We'll just have to wait and see, however frustrating – and potentially damaging – the wait becomes...

Dale Self
682 Posted 17/06/2023 at 17:27:57
Brendan 677 that was so good it took me a couple of seconds.

Will (various unending) if only we had a drunk TW simulator we could get somewhere on our philosophical differences. In print it always runs the risk of getting edgy since it goes to beliefs and identity. Always up for a ponder though or just a good line will do as well.

Tony McNulty
683 Posted 17/06/2023 at 17:42:42
Mark (681),

I can think of one reason.

Given that he presumably was at the heart of the discussions about our finances, he might just be needed to help defend us against accusations of financial impropriety or whatever.

Will Mabon
684 Posted 17/06/2023 at 18:08:10
Dale,

That wasn't aimed at you or TW, but whoever coined the concept of cognitive bias.

Btw, if you think 3 posts is "unending", stick around and you'll see infinity.

Nick Page
685 Posted 17/06/2023 at 18:25:49
Dale - all facts, lol.

*Rustles paper*

Brendan McLaughlin
686 Posted 17/06/2023 at 20:07:44
Tony #639,

I was actually taught when growing up to ignore people who annoy you... I don't ignore you. As for your "annoy people who annoy you"... you rarely if ever annoy me.

I don't always… often… ever agree with you but feck we've all got mates, family members like that.

I haven't been to Goodison in a long time... back in the Moyes days actually. I'd like to see the Grand Old Lady one more time and our magnificent, awe-inspiring new home at Bramley-Moore Dock when finished, as something of a bucket list that I've still got time to enjoy. So maybe one day we'll meet and chat.

But feck, I'm only down the road and me and Andy Crooks haven't even managed a meet-up yet!

Tony Abrahams
687 Posted 17/06/2023 at 21:16:05
Brendan,

I'm hopefully going on holiday early in the season, so if you want to get to see Goodison one more time before she closes her doors, then I will be able to tell you by next weekend, if you want to arrange a weekend in Liverpool with our mate Andy C.

If I go away, there should be two tickets available, so I'll check the fixtures and let you and Andy (who I haven't asked yet) know, if they are available. It will be in August, so let's see what happens this week.🤞

Brent Stephens
688 Posted 17/06/2023 at 21:20:20
Tony #687 - well done, Tony.

And that's why the Abrahams duo, pere et fils, are two of the best on here.

Neil Copeland
689 Posted 17/06/2023 at 21:44:54
Tony #687, nice one
Dale Self
691 Posted 17/06/2023 at 21:58:45
Will, you know we always end up on that carousel. Let's learn from Tony and Brendan and just enjoy the ride.

It's good to have challenging disagreements in good faith. It's also good to have entertaining bad faith back and forth as long as it is in good humour.

Brendan McLaughlin
692 Posted 17/06/2023 at 22:01:15
Thank you, Tony #687,

That's a very heart-warming, thoughtful and generous offer.

Me and Andy Crooks meeting for the first time & travelling together to Goodison.

There's a sitcom in there somewhere!

Neil Copeland
693 Posted 17/06/2023 at 22:04:23
Brendan, if you and Andy do come over, we will have to arrange to meet up with some of the others.
Brendan McLaughlin
694 Posted 17/06/2023 at 22:12:15
Also Tony #687,

Can't help thinking you'll be getting a text from Andy reading "For fuck's sake, Tony... alright for you... you'll be on holiday"

Took me a second post to come back with a wisecrack... I am genuinely touched and unusually stuck for words.

Tony Abrahams
695 Posted 17/06/2023 at 22:27:29
No sitcom with Andy, Brendan, just a pleasure watching him smiling whilst taking in something a lot of us just take for granted. He surely must have got a gist of just how bad it's been for us matchgoing Toffees,because we have had to sit through a lot of unadulterated shite for a long time now, which is something he witnessed the last time he was over for the Fulham game.

It looks like the game will be against Wolves on the last weekend of August. This might mean it's going to be on a Bank Holiday weekend so I've just got to hopefully book a holiday now and give you both a bit of time to get sorted on what is normally a very busy weekend in Liverpool.

Maybe you and Andy could also get tickets for Creamfields, and bring a tent, which might be cheaper than trying to get a hotel! (Kevin & Perry springs to mind) but let's see what happens in the next few days first!

Lev Vellene
696 Posted 17/06/2023 at 22:30:13
Hmm, and still nothing after 48hours + another 48 hours... ;D
Tony Abrahams
697 Posted 17/06/2023 at 22:35:12
The rumour I've been hearing since yesterday, Lee, is that Moshiri hasn't got the money to buy Kenwright's shares!! 🤦‍♂️

Aaarrrgghhh... fucken aaaaarrrrgggh!!

Geoff Lambert
698 Posted 17/06/2023 at 22:37:23
Bloody hell, Tony, time for a whipround.
Lev Vellene
699 Posted 17/06/2023 at 22:39:30
It's involuntarily funny, though! Since the Three resigned, and the One was somehow begged to sit still for just a little while more, time seems to have just stopped...

48 hours?

Hmm, 96 by now... ;D

Mike Gaynes
700 Posted 17/06/2023 at 23:06:21
Tony, I hope your holiday isn't for late September early October. I'm coming over and would love to see you and your dad.
Andy Crooks
701 Posted 17/06/2023 at 23:08:41
Just saw this. Brendan.

Due to Tony's typical generosity, I've got to say I'm up for making this sitcom happen. I can see us at Belfast International with the new robots bringing us our £11 glasses of wine.

Time before last, I was right in the middle of a hen party and could have done with some backup. "Granny there's a wee Everton man here!!!"

Brilliant gesture from you, Tony. Brendan, would love you to be with a fellow Belfast man at the Harlech Castle, meeting the best people in the world before we walk to the game. Let's do it!

Peter Gorman
702 Posted 17/06/2023 at 23:09:33
Tony - are you joking?

How can Moshiri not have the money to buy out the meagre percentage left of Kenwright's stake?

I mean, Moshiri hasn't been sanctioned (yet), just his mate Usmanov. And Usmanov's nephew, Sarvar Ismailov, who for some reason once held "commercial positions" and a place on the board at Everton.

Was that Moshiri helping out a mucker by giving the lad some work experience or was it somebody else keeping an eye on his investment?

Moshiri is a stakeholder in USM (apparently) so maybe it is all fine and dandy. But that'd make Usmanov a very atypical oligarch indeed. All we've got is the hunch.

Brian Wilkinson
703 Posted 17/06/2023 at 00:16:21
Surely MSP would be able to stump up the money, and buy Bill's shares, if indeed Moshiri cannot.

What is worrying for me is Moshiri is asking Bill to stick around until a replacement can come in as Chairman, meaning there is a possibility Bill could have a say in the matter of choosing.

Me personally, I think it is a case of with 3 board members already leaving, Bill had to remain through legal issues, until we get a few board members into place.

You can picture Bill saying to the other three, we all need to resign, Bill knowing that at least one has to remain, pushes the other three under the bus, knowing full well, until we get someone in place, Moshiri will ask Bill to stay short term.

I have said it many times over the years on here, Bill is one slippery guy, he has played the other three board members, and Moshiri like a fiddle. He will go, possibly go early next week, but he is going on his terms and will have one last hoorah and press speech ready.

Michael Penley
704 Posted 18/06/2023 at 00:32:24
Martin:

"Are there actually any people on here at all who think it's a good idea for Kenwright to continue?"

I just enjoy the drama. Whoever is to be the new scapegoat, I can't think it will be as much entertainment as it is now.

Bill Gall
705 Posted 18/06/2023 at 02:09:30
Why would Moshiri, with 94% of the shares, want to buy Kenwright's 1.3% of the shares?
Steve Brown
706 Posted 18/06/2023 at 05:15:27
Bill @ 705, that is a good point.

Moshiri doesn't need to buy Kenwright's shares to remove him from the board. I can only surmise that Kenwright is insisting on divesting the shares as part of any mutual agreement linked to his exit as chairman.

Brendan McLaughlin
707 Posted 18/06/2023 at 06:03:35
Sounds good, Andy #701;

You keep mistaking me for a Belfast man but I'm from Derry, well Derry and Donegal now that I'm retired.

I'm chilling in Donegal this weekend but will be back in Derry later today. I still have an email address for you so I'll be in touch.

Alan J Thompson
708 Posted 18/06/2023 at 06:59:07
I can only think the delay in Bill's farewell party is that pay day is every other Friday, or there are now several other parties interested in taking over Everton while the one we thought were about to are having second thoughts as they've had access to the books.

"Only 5% interest, you're not kidding!".

Kim Vivian
709 Posted 18/06/2023 at 07:49:48
I don't get all these comments linking shares to directorships.

Simply, you don't have to be a shareholder to be a director, and you don't have to be a director to be a shareholder. 1.7% is a meaningless shareholding other than its fiscal worth to the holder and carries no weight regarding the decisions of a 97% stakeholder.

Granted, a Ltd company does have to have at least one sitting director and a company secretary (who can't be the same person) but surely it is not beyond the wit of Moshiri to leap this particular hurdle – even if the Toffee Lady was made a temporary director.

Or even himself…!

Bob Parrington
710 Posted 18/06/2023 at 08:03:34
Currently, I'm reading a Lee Childs book "61 Hours". Now I understand how Billy's 48 hours is so long.
Bob Parrington
711 Posted 18/06/2023 at 08:11:31
Maybe a fans Go Fund Me would be a solution! Ho Ha! If only?
Dan Brierley
712 Posted 18/06/2023 at 10:10:13
Paul and others,

I've already said he may have sold the shares for £200M, or could have been for a £1 nominal sum. I am not sure why you are asking me to provide evidence, I've already said I don't know.

Up to now, I have only seen people quoting figures say 'I heard off someone in the know', or quoting newspapers that suggest figures come from 'sources close to the deal'.

There are several simple reasons to dislike Kenwright and want him gone (in my case, the two seasons of relegation battles and piss poor recruitment). But those suggesting they have unique insight into the club (Moshiri is Bill's puppet or Usmanov is pulling the strings) is absolutely cringeworthy.

It reminds me of several people I know, that just constantly spout shite down the pub about things they clearly have no idea what they are talking about. They just seem to enjoy projecting this illusion that they are 'in the know'.

Coincidentally, they also believe they know how to run the pub better than the owner, with no other qualification beyond the fact "I've drank here all my life!"

Tony Abrahams
713 Posted 18/06/2023 at 10:27:16
That's exactly my thoughts on the whole scenario now, Kim. If I was involved, I'd just let Kenwright keep his shares, and totally banish him from everything until I restored the AGMs, and invited him to sit in the audience with the rest of the minority shareholders.

I just can't see this being true, simply because most rumours aren't, and as Peter G said, surely Moshiri would be able to find the money, if this was the case? But something is obviously holding up proceedings, and it's making a lot of Evertonians both impatient and very angry.

I'm quite calm myself because I didn't expect anything else, because my own view has always been that I expected Bill Kenwright to be very demoralizing until the very end.

Tony Abrahams
714 Posted 18/06/2023 at 10:30:56
I’ve just spoke to Andy, Brendan, so try and get in touch with him mate, because the tickets are there for you no matter if I go away or I don’t now, but I’m certain the flights won’t be cheap, so try and get in touch with him when you read this post.
Phil Greenough
715 Posted 18/06/2023 at 10:47:58
Nice one, Tony and Andy. True Blues. 👏👏
Mark Taylor
716 Posted 18/06/2023 at 10:53:07
Tony @683,

Yes, that thought occurred to me also, especially given Ingles was fired or resigned. I would have thought you would need someone who knows where the bodies are buried.

I don't know Ingles or his capabilities (or lack of them) but it would be a lamentable, albeit understandable, reason to keep Bill on. Or maybe he's just still got the pics of Moshiri in bed with a goat…

I know this sounds negative, and of course new directors are not responsible for the sins of the past, but given the near disintegration of our club to laughing-stock status, maybe the position of Director of the club is something few would fight to have. At least not until they are the new owners with a mandate and resources to clean things up and make a fresh start.

Brian Harrison
717 Posted 18/06/2023 at 11:09:02
Nearly a week since the majority of the board resigned, and yet still nothing from Moshiri. The club released a statement saying they would make an announcement in 48 hours; that deadline has been and gone and still nothing from Moshiri.

Just highlights his incompetence and lack of leadership, and we now appear to be in a state where nobody knows what happens next.

We are told MSP won't or can't proceed until Kenwright's shares are sold. I don't understand why somebody owning 1,750 shares could possibly be delaying any involvement from MSP. Also wouldn't this have been discussed between MSP and Moshiri before we got to this stage?

We are led to believe from press reports that MSP are looking to buy 25% of the club, which we are told will help Moshiri finance the completion of the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock. Yet only months ago he told us he can afford to complete the stadium without any investment.

He told us and presumably Sean Dyche we would sign a striker in the January transfer window… surprise, surprise, it never happened.

So when is this liar going to come out and tell the fans what does he intend to do going forward? Under his watch, we have survived relegation in successive seasons, yet nothing from the owner.

We are under investigation over our alleged overspend and the decision on what penalties we may face will be concluded by an independent commission. And all the ramifications that could come from that decision, yet nothing from our owner.

Has Sean Dyche been given any indication as to what his budget is for transfers, and who will conduct those negotiations with those players and clubs?

Despite looking like all the protests are finally coming to fruition, until this owner is removed, I don't see any respite from our problems while this man is in charge.

Kevin Molloy
718 Posted 18/06/2023 at 11:27:03
This has got to be one of the weirdest arrangements around.

We have a chap who has sunk a billion pounds into Everton, but who clearly can't stand the place, not having been to a home match in years. I've seen footage of him at games previously, he doesn't even like football.

And we have the Chairman, who is powerless, but who doesn't want to shift, and nobody knows why Moshiri doesn't just give him the push. It doesn't all make sense, cos we've never been levelled with.

We can't see the full picture, we are being kept deliberately in the dark. I mean, what other guy buys a footy club, but lets the previous owner carry on as Chairman? It's a total farce, and we can all see how dysfunctional it is.

For some reason, Moshiri won't sack Kenwright, perhaps cos he fears Bill will give something away to the fans about what's really going on in a kamikaze interview with the Echo, who knows?

I can't believe though that the MSP thing is being held up by Kenwright; hopefully, there is some other minor delay with MSP coming on board but that, once that happens, that's the trigger for Bill to fall on his sword.

But then I read this morning that 'an insider' says "Get rid of Kenwright and you leave Dyche vulnerable"… so the old boy is still spinning even at this late stage.

Jim Lloyd
719 Posted 18/06/2023 at 11:37:04
Good post, Dan (712).
Tony Abrahams
720 Posted 18/06/2023 at 11:44:45
You spell it out so well, Kevin. We are deliberately getting kept in the dark, but an insider is saying the removal of Bill Kenwright, will leave Sean Dyche vulnerable.

Incredible statement really when almost everyone can see that our club is already in a very vulnerable position, and if things don't change soon, it will possibly lead to an absolute catastrophic position.

I thought Dan's post summed up Bill Kenwright sitting in his local boozer, Jim. He doesn't know much about footy, but he's allegedly been an Evertonian all his life.

Sorry Michael, I only came back onto this thread because Brendan acted in a very mature manner, but I'm going back to silence now, mate, I promise!

Thunder only happens when it's raining and players only love you when they are playing… Brian W below - you know how it is Brian, demoralizing until the very end, unfortunately, mate.

Brian Williams
721 Posted 18/06/2023 at 11:47:09
Tony #720.

For "insider" read Daily Mirror making shit up!

Jim Lloyd
722 Posted 18/06/2023 at 11:53:15
Kenwright in a boozer! Good grief Tony! He'd probably get his booze in a Toff London club, where he can spin all his lies down there!

You're spot on about him not knowing much about football. But he is an expert at spinning yarns and making millions of £££'s

Jim Lloyd
723 Posted 18/06/2023 at 12:01:10
Just thinking about Kenwright still in post... if he is?

I know nothing about all the legalities of businesses but I can only see two reasons for Kenwright still being there:

1) So Everton as a business can still function properly; or the other, dreadful, scenario 2) is that he stays on as our beloved Chairman!!

Maybe there's a 3rd scenario where he stays on while all the negotiations on any takeover or investment are taking place.

Whatever the situation is, I hope he's gone sooner rather than later... a lot sooner!

Brian Wilkinson
724 Posted 18/06/2023 at 12:09:18
Bill has very powerful friends in the media side, you only have to look at the stories over the past, where stories have appeared from nowhere, all deflecting the blame away from the Chairman, the latest being Dyche's job in danger, if Bill leaves. Even Simon Jordan is up his backside.

Where did the headlock leak come from? Even now, we are being called a mob rule for wanting change, yet our neighbours across the park were getting praised to high heavens for demanding change. The only difference being one was loyal fans doing a terrific job and fans matter praises, while ourselves are labelled as mob rule.

Expect more stories to come out of the press, blaming the owner, the fans, while poor Bill will get very sympathetic press coverage.

Paul Ferry
725 Posted 18/06/2023 at 12:19:13
Good post Dan (712), but you don't convince at all on the one quid for shares stuff – we are talking about narcissistic Kenwright, Dan, who always, always, puts himself first ahead of the club.

I agree about this:

"But those suggesting they have unique insight into the club (Moshiri is Bill's puppet or Usmanov is pulling the strings) is absolutely cringeworthy".

Although I would probably not use "cringeworthy".

Kieran (Kinsella), I'm still waiting to hear back from you about the direct quotes about your word "desist". Sadly, this seems to be a pattern with you.

Peter Mills
726 Posted 18/06/2023 at 12:35:30
Neil#693, agreed, and I owe you a pint!
Kevin Molloy
727 Posted 18/06/2023 at 12:43:11
Thanks, Tony, not long now, one last heave...
Tony Abrahams
728 Posted 18/06/2023 at 12:45:46
If Neil is anything like Brian Williams, that will have turned into at least half a dozen pints (double that for bottles of Desperados) by the time August comes, Peter!
Steve Brown
729 Posted 18/06/2023 at 13:03:43
My wife, who has zero interest in football, keeps asking me if Kenny Wright has left yet.
Andrew Ellams
730 Posted 18/06/2023 at 13:18:27
Former manager and long-time Chairman, Ken Wright has left Chorley to make way for new ownership.

Maybe the media has their stories mixed up???

Jack Convery
731 Posted 18/06/2023 at 13:29:56
Dr: Well Mr Convery, I'm sure you will remember me telling you last week, that the treatment was working and you should be clear of narcissisticus terroritis by now. However' I'm sorry to say but the infestation is running even deeper than we originally thought and a much stronger course of a new anti-narcissisticus serum is now needed. So do not despair, I'm almost confident that this time the treatment will work and you will soon feel yourself again.

Dr: Now to see to the others, Halligan, Self, Glassar, Abrahams, Ferry et al, it's a bloody fandemic. Nurse how much of that new stronger anti-narcissisticus serum do we have?

Brian Wilkinson
732 Posted 18/06/2023 at 13:35:06
Not sure how to add links here but most will have been on YouTube to watch clips.

I suggest those that can and know how to search on TouTube, type in "The Liver Birds S03 E12 Liverpool or Everton", and watch that clip about our most loyal Evertonian.

Apologies, it's been removed off YouTube, but if you type the above in Google search, the video comes up there, you only have to type in "The Liver Birds Liverpool or Everton" and the video will come up in search results.

Mark Ryan
733 Posted 18/06/2023 at 14:28:55
Do you think any of the other Premier League Chairman have called Kenwright and asked him "So what are Everton going to do in this situation, Bill?"
Jim Lloyd
734 Posted 18/06/2023 at 14:38:49
Yes, Brian, he looked a creepy sod even then!

Just been having a word with my next door neighbour.
Now, the topic has not been about the weather, it's about "What's happening... hasn't the bastard gone yet!"

He's more demanding than me, and want's to know what this club is doing and, equally importantly, what role is our (I assume he still is our Chairman!) Chairman playing, during this interregnum between the dismal, dark days of the past; and the bright new future that awaits us... hopefully.

I've got more patience than my neighbour, I'll be able to tell when he's packed his bags and gone, when I see a puff of nice grey smoke coming from the ground and bells chiming from the Gwladys Street church.

Barry McNally
735 Posted 18/06/2023 at 14:39:34
Matt Traynor
736 Posted 18/06/2023 at 16:04:31
Looping back to when Bill Kenwright et al first "saved" Everton, I thought the debt at the time (c. £7-8m) jumped to around £23m, leading many to speculate that we were a leveraged buyout, albeit not on the scale of Man Utd and the Glazers.

Another first for Everton, Kim Jong Bill deserves that statue!

Pete Clarke
737 Posted 18/06/2023 at 16:14:54
What did we do to deserve this double-headed monster that has a grip on us?

Who would have thought that after winning the League and European Cup-Winners Cup all those years ago, we would end up like this? I'm not blaming Heysel, although that didn't help, but seriously, what the fuck did we do to deserve this??

We had a great model of a football club. A young manager who had done the hard yards and had us ready to take over the world with a brilliant team. We all know how it went from there but to end up where we are is just not right.

I have always been one who was against being taken over by some rich foreign bastard but right now I wish we had got some ruthless fucker like Abramovich who would have given us a few trophies before we became a mess.

God, I hate Moshiri almost as much as Kenwright.

Brian Wilkinson
739 Posted 18/06/2023 at 17:11:11
Cheers, Barry,

Worth a click on that link what Barry put on.

Brian Wilkinson
740 Posted 18/06/2023 at 20:16:00
I just do not understand the 'Bill saved us, when Johnson sold up' – he left with Everton still in the Black, and a trophy in the cabinet, and a new Park End stand.

Not a failed Everton safety certificate to get us to go to Kirkby, or a training ground sold off, then rented back, with our star youngster Rooney sold within a couple of seasons.

Clive Rogers
741 Posted 18/06/2023 at 20:33:08
Brian, 740, correct.

To be fair to Johnson, what happened was his main food business got into serious trouble and was going bust. He had to sell EFC to save it.

Whatever people think Kenwright saved us from, it couldn't possibly have been worse than what we got, Kenwright.

Bill Gall
742 Posted 18/06/2023 at 20:44:32
The only reason that Bill Kenwright will be holding onto his shares is they have lost the value they had from the time he first sold shares to Moshiri, and that is because of the mess the pair of them have made of Everton FC.
Clive Rogers
743 Posted 18/06/2023 at 20:49:27
Moshiri and Kenwright have turned Everton into a club that established good players don't want to come to.
Brendan McLaughlin
744 Posted 18/06/2023 at 22:11:07
Sorry Clive #743,

That's crap... players follow the money. Who is in charge of the club is about as important as what's the nightlife like for the WAGS?

Laurie Hartley
745 Posted 18/06/2023 at 23:22:56
I am just hoping that this week we have news of a new ownership structure, a new chairman and board, some funds for Dyche to buy two or three players, and the departure of 2 or 3 players on high wages that are not contributing.

When I think about that wish list I realise that I am probably hoping for more than any other fan of a premier league club. It’s a big ask but the reality seems to be that that is what we need to give us a future.

We live in hope.

Tony Abrahams
746 Posted 19/06/2023 at 07:42:00
There is a difference between players and good players, though, Brendan.
Dan Brierley
747 Posted 19/06/2023 at 07:55:52
I see there is still a lot of selective memory.

The league finishes before and after Kenwright took over speak for themselves. He stated very clearly his ambition as chairman: find someone who will fund a new stadium.

I remember at that time, our club was lauded throughout the football world as the best run in the country, based on our spend vs points. The results since Moshiri came in and started getting involved in football matters, bringing in DoF people, also speak for themselves.

Brian Wilkinson
748 Posted 19/06/2023 at 08:03:01
Pickford was asked which player did he fear the most, to which he said, it was a toss up between Keane and Holgate.

The old ones are the best.

Jim Lloyd
749 Posted 19/06/2023 at 08:30:32
We can all suffer from selective memory at times, Dan.

I seem to remember we were offered a world class stadium in a world famous waterfront for £20 million and the best run club in the country refused it.

Colin Glassar
750 Posted 19/06/2023 at 09:08:18
I know it's healthy, and distracting, to have debates about transfers, BMD, possible investments, best XI of all time, trips down memory lane, who's the most loyal fan, the fixture list, general trivia etc…..

But the elephant in the room remains. Until that elephant is removed, all of the above are moot points of discussion. We will continue on this merry-go-round until we are, literally, blue in the face.

It's now clear, to me at least, that there is no real will to change at the top. The three stooges were sacrificed to dampen down the calls for change.

Moshiri and Kenwright are hoping we move on from them being under the microscope and I'm worried as the days pass, and nothing happens, this will become more likely.

I hope I'm wrong.

Mark Ryan
751 Posted 19/06/2023 at 09:43:31
I suspect you are right Colin G, we might just simply sleepwalk into the new season with Waldorf & Statler still in charge and simply have talk of there being new investment on the horizon or about to arrive.
Colin Glassar
752 Posted 19/06/2023 at 09:59:24
That's my worst-case scenario, Mark. Slowly but surely this will fade from people's thoughts… or at least get put on the back burner.
Dan Brierley
753 Posted 19/06/2023 at 10:07:32
And thankfully they did Jim, as we now have a stadium being built that doesn't rely on reverse mortgages that would saddle our club with debt for years to come.
Kim Vivian
754 Posted 19/06/2023 at 10:09:06
Is this thread going to hit 1,000 posts before we get any news? 48 hours turns into 7 days.

It's like trying to get a GP appointment – Getting really painful this now, the boil needs lancing.

Rob Halligan
755 Posted 19/06/2023 at 10:35:57
Kim…

It's funny you should say that, because I rang our doctors this morning at 8:15 to try and get an appointment, and was told could I get in for 9am, a mere 45 minutes later. Keep the faith, Kenwright will be gone very soon.

Ok, maybe not keep the faith, but hopefully Kenwright will be gone soon. 🤞🤞🤞

Derek Taylor
756 Posted 19/06/2023 at 10:53:54
Under Moshiri, Everton have become a joke – both on the field and off it.

I read that no less than seven of the retained squad have experienced relegation and have little doubt that the re-enforcements identified will bring that figure up to a full team!

Unless the 'right people' complete a takeover 'ere long, the journey south (relegation) will be completed before the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock becomes our home and a noose around what is left of a bankrupt Everton.

'Be patient' they tell us at every juncture – but just see where our tolerance of Grandad Bill has brought us to… Chaos! – with the final chapter still to be writ!

Brian Williams
757 Posted 19/06/2023 at 11:29:25
Now I've always thought of Andros Townsend as an articulate, intelligent fella.

Just read his thoughts on Barrett-Baxendale and Kenwright…
I think he's been duped!

Steve Brown
758 Posted 19/06/2023 at 11:31:17
Dan,

Therefore we were better to pass up our preferred bidder status for Kings Dock and suffer 23 years of financial and commercial stagnation?

There are two issues with that:

1) Paul Gregg offered to fully fund Everton's required commitment to stadium costs provided Kenwright relinquished his role as chairman;

2) The financial basis for construction of the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock not even being confirmed yet.

It might prove more onerous than any arrangements that would have needed to be put in place to advance with the Kings Dock stadium.

I get that you want a more reflective discussion on relative culpability between Moshiri and Kenwright, but let's keep it commercially sensible.


Barry Hesketh
759 Posted 19/06/2023 at 11:44:40
Brian @757,

I mostly enjoyed Andros's co-commentating during the World Cup; however, when a certain Liverpool player played a routine pass down the line to Saka against minnow opposition last Friday, and Townsend claimed it to be wold class – I thought to myself another former player / pundit who has chosen to toe the party line and follow the money.

Brian Williams
760 Posted 19/06/2023 at 11:50:34
Barry. My thoughts exactly.
Alan J Thompson
761 Posted 19/06/2023 at 12:11:02
Steve (#758);

I can't swear to it but I thought Paul Gregg suggested a reverse mortgage rather than him funding it.

Danny Baily
762 Posted 19/06/2023 at 12:12:47
Steve, regarding you first point, is there any evidence for that?
Andrew Ellams
763 Posted 19/06/2023 at 12:25:42
Barry @ 759.

There was definitely an instruction to push the performance of one particular player on Friday night. The half-time analysis was spent almost entirely discussing him.

Tony Abrahams
764 Posted 19/06/2023 at 13:49:09
Dan@747, Everton got loads of credit for punching above their weight, and even got a new nickname, which was light years away from the school of science, but it was Wenger’s- Arsenal, who had the lowest net spend, with that man’s genius allowing his club to remain very competitive, whilst they were building their new stadium.

They were obviously helped enormously by playing in the champions league, but not really on the playing side, because I’m pretty certain Wenger’s net-spend was one of the very lowest for many seasons?

I do hope the new stadium doesn’t saddle a lot of debt onto Everton, but I’m not convinced this is going to be the case. I just hope I’m wrong for obvious reasons.

I do agree with you about our directors of football, Dan, because they have all been an unmitigated disaster imo, but when someone would sooner have a new ground than win trophies, then surely this ambition is a long way away, from the average football fan?

Tony Mace
765 Posted 19/06/2023 at 15:18:30
Bill

You’ve overstayed your welcome

Off you pop - self proclaimed “worlds greatest Evertonian”

Disgrace the way you have treated the lifeblood of this club.

Mark Ryan
766 Posted 19/06/2023 at 19:07:15
He's clearly not leaving.

Can we hear from MSP please. What's your plan? Moshiri, what's your plan? Just give us an idea.

I'm resigned to Kenwright staying as Chairman and he won't know what's happening. He couldn't run a bath, let alone a football club, so MSP and Moshiri, let us know your plan for the club, please.

Colin Glassar
767 Posted 19/06/2023 at 19:18:53
Mark,

Kenwright is basically de facto Chairman, CEO, COO, CFO and chief scout. He is the board and he's not going anywhere fast.

This is an embarrassing, shameful episode in our long history. Maybe it's time to call in the receivers and take the club away from Moshiri and his flunky.

Mark Ryan
768 Posted 19/06/2023 at 19:59:44
I agree, Colin. It looks like it's you and me at the moment. Everyone else is sat back waiting to light a cigar for the moment he goes.

They'll have a long wait. He's not going anywhere. I just want MSP to say this is our plan or Moshiri to say this is my plan and this is where Kenwright sits in all of this.

I'm not impatient; I can simply see that he is staying.

Tony Abrahams
769 Posted 19/06/2023 at 20:22:20
It's definitely embarrassing, Colin, and it's surely got to be a lot more annoying than my daily rant.

It's sickening. The good name of Everton Football Club, has been diminishing with the help of an alleged truly great Evertonian for years, but to tell everyone there would be an announcement in 48 hours, and then have nothing but silence for the next 168 hours, is totally demoralizing, but I suppose that's nothing compared to how long it's been since we genuinely competed like the Everton of yesteryear.

I didn't expect any kind of announcement in the next 48 hrs, once it wasn't me - stayed, but it was the other three - left, but waiting for news to come out of the silent circus, is definitely starting to wind people up.

How many times has Moshiri spoken in 2023? I heard him say he would buy us a striker (he didn't) and I heard him embarrassingly say that it wasn't his decision to sack Lampard, after we lost at West Ham (he was sacked) and I'm not sure if he even spoke after headlockgate?

We have survived relegation twice by the skin of our teeth and it looks like we are only going to be preparing for another season by playing amongst the dead men. It has now reached the same type of soul-destroying levels, similar to when a lot of people used to say: be careful what you wish for.

Roger Helm
770 Posted 19/06/2023 at 21:15:22
So essentially nothing has changed - a cosmetic dumping of the non-contributing board members, with the Chuckle Brothers still in charge.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by anything that happens in our club these days.

Dan Brierley
771 Posted 19/06/2023 at 21:20:35
Let's imagine that people got what they wanted, and Kenwright was removed without any confirmation from the new investors on exactly how critical subjects like the new stadium will be managed.

This would not be in our interests, you need people in the club to manage the operations. Show some patience, This idea that one man leaving is suddenly going to result in everything immediately changing is very wide of the mark.

I'd suggest it will be years before any effect of a management change is actually seen on the pitch. There seems to be a lot more financial cleanup before cheque books open again.

I've said it already, the biggest failure of this board was appointing Frank Lampard because the fans wanted it. Shocking appointment.

Danny O’Neill
772 Posted 19/06/2023 at 21:21:38
The lack of communication and action is absolutely shameful and shocking.

He can't stay. It's as simple as that. Why prolong it and the frustration and simmering anger of the supporters, who will quickly turn and are doing after the sense of relief on the last day?

Surely even Moshiri can't be that naive or Kenwright that blatantly arrogant?

I think a few will answer that one for me, so I know what's coming!

I don't know what is going on behind the scenes, but every day is delaying what could be investment that could help us compete again.

Not wanted, not needed. Just go. Or be had gone with.

Act and be decisive.

Danny O’Neill
773 Posted 19/06/2023 at 21:35:53
Yes, Dan, it will take years to undo 36 years of steady decline with a few spikes. We all know that.

The removal of one man who has been front and centre of that won't change it overnight is a logical statement. Rome wasn't built in a day, as they say.

But it will remove the toxic relationship that has developed between board and the now vast majority of the support base. It will change the mood.

The relationship is not just fractured. It isn't even broken. It has been severed. Lying and turning on the people who keep you in a job and executive position. Shameful and unforgivable.

I'm generally positive when it comes to matchday. It's about the team.

But when I hear very loyal Evertonians threatening to down tools until he is gone, that speaks volumes. The club is in dangerous waters with its supporters right now, but the silence remains loud and the indecision alarming.

We unified twice in the last two seasons behind that team. We are pretty unified about our feelings about the Chairman. A failed Chairman. Not good enough for our club or to take us where we want to be.

We've used 4 of our 9 lives under his guidance and stewardship.

Time to go. Time for change. As much change is a risk, it can't be much worse than what he has overseen.

We start again in a few weeks. Behind the manager and the team. But it has to be without this Chairman or the air could be toxic blue.

Tony Abrahams
774 Posted 19/06/2023 at 21:42:33
Show some patience! I think it's our middle name, Dan!

Why get rid of the other three and say there was going to be an announcement in 48 hours? Surely it would have been more normal and much better practice to get rid of everyone at the same time?

I agree with you about one man leaving and suddenly everything will change is probably going to be wide of the mark because this nepotism and total ineptitude that has ran right throughout our club for years is highly unlikely to just disappear overnight.

If you can learn from history, both Peter Swales and Doug Ellis hung around for way too long; this is my biggest worry for Everton right now, especially with our financial worries.

Hopefully my fear is short-lived and we can bring in sensible people who are also full of professionalism but asking people to be patient after the way we have failed to prepare for the last two seasons is genuinely very hard to comprehend imo, Dan.

Andy Crooks
775 Posted 19/06/2023 at 21:49:54
Dan @ 771,

Appointing Lampard was only a "shocking appointment", with the gift of hindsight. Went badly wrong in the end but did you actually predict that with confidence?

"Shocking"? No it wasn't

Dan Brierley
776 Posted 19/06/2023 at 21:55:41
The point I was trying to make is that you need someone to come in to manage things before you get rid of people.

Indeed it might appease fans if Kenwright is finally removed. But I don't think we'll be happy if in two weeks suddenly players, stadium contractors and staff aren't being paid as there is no-one there to manage the club.

Ken Kneale
777 Posted 19/06/2023 at 21:56:53
Dan - Tony and Danny sum it up. We have been far too patient with Kenwright and his unending untruths.

He has overseen the standing and reputation of the club on and off the pitch tumble exponentially under his watch and, in an attempt to cling on, turned on the club's saviours.

Throughout not one word of regret or apology. The man has had his day.

Tony Abrahams
778 Posted 19/06/2023 at 22:06:48
Very true Andy, but something that was absolutely shocking was how long our board waited to sack Lampard.

"It's not my decision," said Moshiri. (No wonder some people say he's only our alleged owner!) This is what he actually said to one reporter when being quizzed underneath the city of London stadium, right after the game.

With so much to speculate on, then I often genuinely think that Usmanov might have appointed Benitez to try and get Bill Kenwright to resign but Bill is still standing right until the end of his very demoralizing tenure.

My rant for today is over – I'm actually sorry I started, but the life is getting dragged out of me very quickly right now. I love football but, since we beat Bournemouth, I've watched the last 30 minutes of West Ham beating Fiorentina but I haven't watched a single second of any other game. Thank god it's the summer.

Ian Pilkington
779 Posted 19/06/2023 at 22:07:08
We know the deluded, lying charlatan has a planet-sized ego, but how on earth can even he kid himself that he can survive this?

Every minute he hangs on delays Dyche making plans for the new season.

He is a total disgrace and Moshiri is little better for not firing him off with the other three useless buffoons last Monday.

Danny O’Neill
780 Posted 19/06/2023 at 22:19:57
I don't necessarily disagree with you, Dan, on the one-man thing and I'll always respect different views.

We do need people lined up. I think they are, we have had reported names from reputable sources.

But we need to act and be decisive. We should have already done so. The season is weeks away.

I hope they are negotiating, but it should have been done by now.

As Tony said, we were told 48 hours. Nothing, not even an update.

Joe Corgan
781 Posted 19/06/2023 at 22:45:42
Oh to be a fly on the wall inside the corridors of Goodison Park and the Liver Building right now.

It's not only us fans patiently waiting for an update which was promised to come days ago, it's the club staff. I'm sure the PR, communications and marketing departments are frustrated too.

Of course, they know we should have had an update on Wednesday. They haven't forgotten. And I'm sure they also know the club looks very foolish right now.

What I find incredible is that we've had absolute silence. Not even a holding response once the 48-hour deadline expired. Even a one-liner along the lines of "The club is still working to finalise the make-up of the new board. An update will be provided in due course." would have sufficed.

Soren Moyer
782 Posted 19/06/2023 at 23:29:32
Club's statement: "There will be an update about the chairman's situation in the next 48 hours".

Whereas it should have been: "There will be an update about the chairman's situation in the next 48 hours. Honestly". Lol.

Joke of a club!

Kieran Kinsella
783 Posted 20/06/2023 at 00:30:25
Soren,

On Venus, one day lasts 5,000 hours. Did the club ever say the deadline was based on two Earth days?

Bill Watson
784 Posted 20/06/2023 at 00:56:35
Tony #778,

Those of us who had the misfortune to go to Bournemouth (fortunately I only went to the Premier League game) knew Lampard's time was up.

That he wasn't dismissed until about 7 weeks later was negligence in the extreme and almost got us relegated.

The club is run in a totally shambolic manner and the 48 hours debacle is just the latest example.

Dave Long
785 Posted 20/06/2023 at 02:23:16
This needs sorting fast. He's probably trying to sabotage our chances for next season. Dyche will be off at this rate. Who wants to be associated with this shambles? Get gone.
Eric Myles
786 Posted 20/06/2023 at 07:30:42
Alan #761, I understood that, after Kenwright's refusal to step aside, that's when Gregg said he would only fund it through a reverse mortgage.

Up until then, Kenwright had fully expected Gregg to fund the stadium, hence the "ringfenced" money. He just didn't know Gregg planned to oust him.

Kim Vivian
787 Posted 20/06/2023 at 07:30:52
I have a question...

We know about the resignations from the board by 3 directors – but does anyone know if they actually still work for the club, the business?

It's not like a managerial sacking where the out going person/people are 'handed their cards' and sent on their way, but a board resignation still suggests a continuance with the club. For example, we have heard that DBB has been highly instrumental in progressing the stadium development with Colin Chong. Is she still involved in that or could she be in an ongoing role somehow?

Just sitting here peering into my cup of tea and thinking about things Everton when these thoughts came into my head.

Colin Glassar
788 Posted 20/06/2023 at 07:35:48
I’ve been thinking the same, Kim. It wouldn’t surprise me if they are still at the club waiting until the natives calm down. It’s such a shambolic situation that anything and everything is possible.
Danny O’Neill
789 Posted 20/06/2023 at 07:47:50
Who knows Kim.

This is the fundamental issue with the non-communication from the club.

What do we know?

The three board members were relieved of their duties.

Bill Kenwright is still Chairman. Possibly running the club on his own at board level.

Your parallel to a Manager leaving. Normally a replacement is lined up or a caretaker put in place until one is found.

Do we have a caretaker board operating in the background? Or is Bill playing with his Everton Hornby train set and chess board in his office?

Who knows. We don't know because apart from the vague 48 hour state that feels like it's turned in 48 days, there has been nothing at such a critical time for the club.

We want to go into this season with optimism after the trauma of the past two.

The silence is deafening.

Michael Kenrick
790 Posted 20/06/2023 at 07:53:37
That's a really interesting question, Kim – and the way I read the announcement – they have stepped down from their roles as directors on the board.

Since their board positions are distinct from their everyday jobs with Everton FC, and there has been nothing about them resigning or being sacked (other than such assumptions by desperate Evertonians), it would be natural to think that Barrett-Baxendale and Ingles just carry on as company executives, and Sharp does whatever it was he was doing.

The last time I checked, which was a couple of days ago, they were all still listed as 'Our People' on the Everton Website…

But not any longer! Their profiles and job descriptions have all gone!!! (Except for Chairman Bill of course, who still remains.) So I think we can safely say they have left their roles as executives as well.

Phew!!!

Kim Vivian
791 Posted 20/06/2023 at 08:25:38
Thanks, Michael - very interesting. I wasn't aware of those official details.

I think it would be fair to say that not everything that DBB and Ingles have done (I can't say about Sharp because I don't know what he does, or did, apart from playing football) has been bad.

Clearly as directors, as officers of the Company, they have been found wanting but I wouldn't have been surprised if they continued in their executive roles. However, as you point out that would seem not to be the case. So it appears that things are happening although the announcements are being kept pretty low key.

I do not include Kenwright in the above because he has been, for the most part, just bad. I'm sure he did some good stuff somewhere along the line but broadly speaking his influence has led inexorably to the decline of the business. That is clear as day and really he should have been the first to fall on his sword.

I wonder who is now doing the day-to-day work of those other two (three)?

God forbid it is Kenwright.

Eddie Dunn
792 Posted 20/06/2023 at 08:29:06
We have become used to a lack of communication, especially in the last few years. During the season, it is the weekly pre-match presser that usually gives us team news but during the close season the silence is always deafening.

It illustrates that our board and Chairman do not feel any compulsion to keep us informed on anything. The stadium updates have been used strategically in an attempt to placate us at regular intervals.

The owner is even worse. Firstly using that sycophant and brown-noser Jim White (TalkShite) as a conduit and then granting the royal interview with the bloke from the Fans Advisory Board ("We will get a striker"). It all demonstrates just what an unstructured organism Everton FC has become.

Now we wait for the news. The club is in turmoil. Until the ownership and Chairmanship are sorted, who in their right minds is going to come and play for us?

The summer window is open and pre-season will start in a few weeks. Dyche needs his squad in time to integrate new faces. The clock is ticking.

We should all be relaxing, forgetting the stresses of that shitshow of a season but this summer doesn't even have the titillation of compiling likely targets for our preferred players... we are way behind every other team in the Premier League.

At this rate we will be scrabbling around for more Maupays.

David Peate
793 Posted 20/06/2023 at 09:21:18
According to Wikipedia, chairman Kenwright is an Honorary Professor of the University of West London. However, he has never professed his inadequacies.
Brian Harrison
794 Posted 20/06/2023 at 09:40:01
I have said on numerous occasions that Moshiri is an even bigger problem than Kenwright, he and Usmanov have been in charge of this club for 6 years and, despite throwing hundreds of millions into the club, we are in a worse position now than when they took over.

It is remarkable that a board can resign and yet the owner makes no comment. That says to me he couldn't give a toss about our fans, he will continue to run this club till his boss gets back some of his losses and that will only happen after the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock is complete.

So it looks to me as though we will have him in charge for at least another 18 months to 2 years.

I doubt MSP will have any impact on how Moshiri will run this club, yes they may have 2 men on the board but while Moshiri is in charge of the purse strings their input will be negligible. We will still have a dysfunctional club run by someone who has overseen 2 consecutive years of relegation, and with him in charge I don't see things improving. The only person I have any faith in is Sean Dyche and he must be shaking his head at how this once great club is operating.

Roger Helm
795 Posted 20/06/2023 at 10:08:57
I agree Brian, everything started to go wrong (I mean even wronger) when Moshiri appeared. Not only is he careless and seemingly uninterested, he knows nothing about football. Even worse, he thinks he knows something about football and wants to have his say.

Just Everton's luck; when we finally get a billionaire, he turns out to be Mr Bean!

Kim Vivian
796 Posted 20/06/2023 at 10:41:15
Brian - assuming MSP do successfully acquire a 25% shareholding, that will give them the power of veto over Moshiri's decisions whether or not they have seats on the board.

I'm unsure whether the two mooted directors are a part of MSP (I think one is and one maybe isn't) but having those seats will by definition give them influence over the direction of the club, so although a "minority" shareholding, a powerful position nevertheless.

25% would be the minimum they would be looking at as shareholder with their potential involvement. Over 24.9% is the point at which the veto becomes usable.

Jerome Shields
797 Posted 20/06/2023 at 10:43:05
Moshiri has supported the present regime at Everton from the start, both financially and publically.

Whilst three Directors have resigned, two were always expendable. Both Barrett-Baxendale and Sharp were obviously out of their depth and were very dependent on Kenwright's patronage, which he withdrew.

Ingles had to take the heat for the financial woes, especially the slip-up that resulted in Everton being referred to an independent commission. It will be interesting to see what his serverence package was.

As for Kenwright, the 48-hour press release appears to have a been a bluff to appease the leaving directors, because he has not gone. There are reports of interim officers upgrades to the board to cover mandatory requirements but Kenwright seems to be going to maintain his position. No change then since in truth it was always a Board of one anyway, as far as objectives were concerned.

So why is Kenwright being kept on?

He does have shares, but Moshiri I can still replace him on the board. Apparently there is an agreement for Moshiri to buy his shares since his entry into the club.

Is there a shareholders agreement?

Is Kenwright, Moshiri's proxy on the board? With the appointment of an in-house director and two MPS directors, this would still leave Moshiri in control.

But the MSP loan appears to be to the stadium company, so it could be that board representation is related to the stadium company, not Everton FC.

Anyway, it is not going to be straight-forward, since Moshiri's priorities are related to the control of his investment, not the development of the team, which is full of knots anyway, both on and off the field.

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
798 Posted 20/06/2023 at 11:44:06
I am glad I am not alone – but Moshiri is the problem.

Yes, many of you may think we were awful in the Kenwright/Moyes era because we were just the Best of the Rest with regular European football, no relegation worries after 2006, but never challenging for the title. But give me that any day over the crisis we are in now.

And it all started going downhill when Moshiri came in.

Dave Abrahams
799 Posted 20/06/2023 at 11:46:37
Brian (794),

Contrast what the owner hasn't said to what the previous owner and current chairman has said, trying to tell us that the board has worked tirelessly to help the club despite not appearing at Goodison since Dyche became manager, using lies to justify their absence.

This ‘brilliant’ Evertonian has seen the decline of ‘the club he loves above all else' since he became the owner and is still clinging on although a sizeable number of fans want him gone.

I think that the people who have put nearly a billion pounds into the club are entitled to try and get some of it back. I hope they make a good profit because it should mean that Everton FC are eventually making progress. After all Kenwright made millions out of the club without, possibly, putting anything in.

Alex Gray
800 Posted 20/06/2023 at 12:07:49
I can only speak for myself but I've always found Moshiri to be a big part of the problem. The issue is as fans it's a lot easier to influence change on the board than it is the owner.

You only have to look at Man Utd with the Glazers and how long Newcastle had to protest to get rid of Ashley.

The reality is that, whilst the board going is exactly what we asked for, I was naïve in thinking replacements would have already been lined up but I can just envisage our glorious leader on his yacht in Monaco thinking that's his job done for the summer, he's appeased the plebs.

Out of curiosity, if nothing changes now the board have gone, what's the plan of action? Do we sit and just accept things or protest for the next 10 years?

It's early days and I could very well be proven wrong but this is how I see the summer being played out:

1) Kenwright eventually leaves, but only when fan tension boils over and more banners are seen outside Goodison so the rags can say how awful Everton fans are.

2) The new board and MSP buyout happens at the very end of the window and is announced as the big signing on the summer.

3) We make very few signings as "who would want to come to Everton where the atmosphere is so toxic" is spewed all over TalkSport.

4) We're left with an even weaker squad than last season with Onana sold late in the window and it's down to us "toxic fans" to get behind the team to save Everton from almost certain doom.

Apologies for what might come across as a pessimistic, insane rant but I just don't see any sign of change? Last season for me was a season of utter anxiety, from results on the pitch to every news article pushing points deductions.

My expectations this summer aren't to see us spend £200 million and buy a new squad. My expectations are pretty low; when an announcement is meant to be made in 48 hours, make it! The only time we seem to get any form of communication is when the fanbase is up in arms.

It's just tiring when the only thing I expect from the cub is disappointment.

Stan Grace
801 Posted 20/06/2023 at 12:34:21
Phil #798,

"We were just the Best of the Rest with regular European football."

According to EFC Statto, we qualified for Europe 4 times (2005, 2007, 2008, 2009) in 11 years of Moyes.

Not exactly "regular" for the 7th highest spending manager in that period.

Tony Abrahams
802 Posted 20/06/2023 at 13:44:45
We never even got to one quarter-final during any of those years in which we qualified for Europe, either. It's a matter of opinion, but our record in cup competitions has been an absolute disgrace since we last won the FA Cup in 1995.

I think we were involved in four semi-finals under Moyes, and two under Martinez, but at least we never had to worry about relegation? Wow. (Since Klopp went to those bastards, he has been in four European finals.)

I have always expected Everton to compete so, on that basis, Bill Kenwright has always been our biggest problem, imo, but this Moshiri, who was Kenwright's choice, has also proved himself to be out of his depth and totally inadequate.

Moshiri and Kenwright, are like a pair of ostriches – but even I'm shaking my head and smiling at the audacity of Chairman Bill. He might not be welcome by many at Goodison, but he made sure he put his picture back on his dead timeline, above the ticket office on Goodison Road, just to let everyone know that Bill Kenwrightisn't sleeping with the fishes, just yet. Un-fucking-believable! 😢

Joe McMahon
803 Posted 20/06/2023 at 15:24:47
Looks like Blue Boy is staying until he pops his cloggs. The biggest stain on the entire history of the club. The word 'selfish' doesn't go anywhere near covering it all.
Mark Ryan
804 Posted 20/06/2023 at 15:30:14
Can you imagine Sky Sports News if Man City or Chelsea had binned off their CEO and other board members and they had nothing to report?

There would be huge questions asked in the House but, because it's Everton, there is silence. They would be so curious as to what was going on if it was Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal but, because it's us, they could not give a shit.

How far we have fallen in the public's interest?

Pete Clarke
805 Posted 20/06/2023 at 16:24:47
Mark,

We have become irrelevant to almost everyone outside of our club. 1995 and the Dogs of War was an eternity ago and we are now just another club with very little to offer other than a great support.

The way things are going with Kenwright and Moshiri it could easily be ripping the hope out of that great support we have and there will be very little to go to the games for. How long do we just accept this shit?

We need both of these dickheads gone ASAP and need some kind of action to get things moving. The only focus towards us at the moment is the Stadium so we need to get something going down there with some banners to get the attention of the press which may then force these absolute morons into action.

We have definitely been too passive in the past and they are riding on this. They can just hide from criticism but the stadium is not something they want bad press on. Time to get nasty I think and degrade these bastards for all the damage they have done and continue to do.

Eric Myles
806 Posted 20/06/2023 at 16:52:08
I can't believe that some fans are giving Kenwright a free pass because of Moshiri.

It's because of Kenwright that we had to find a Moshiri and Kenwright even lauds that as an achievement: "I found you a billionaire, like I said I would."

So, if Moshiri is such a bad thing, it's because Kenwright got us into this shit!

Eric Myles
807 Posted 20/06/2023 at 16:57:40
Danny #753, WHOOSH!!

Someone needs to invent a sarcasm font!

Eric Myles
808 Posted 20/06/2023 at 17:10:04
Kim #796,

"Brian - assuming MSP do successfully acquire a 25% shareholding, that will give them the power of veto over Moshiri's decisions whether or not they have seats on the board."

Where do you get this from?

Mike Hayes
809 Posted 20/06/2023 at 17:10:22
Peter Clarke ,

The silence from the Club is deafening - several players gone - 3 Board members gone - the main dickhead is still there somewhere and Moshiri is nowhere to be seen.

No news on the MSP takeover/investment - no news on any players being sold - no news on any players coming in (if they are mad enough?)

There are a few snippets on the stadium - nothing saying the money is there. Plenty of speculation on players we are supposedly going for – daily rag bullshit as every season.

I think the bastards have not only degraded themselves but the fanbase themselves with Headlockgate – pity the gutter press and the Red Shite-loving Sky don't investigate that instead of we may have breached the Premier Leagues Rules for one (Man City).

I definitely blame Kenwright but Moshiri is as culpable letting the moron (and himself) waste his £750M on crap. 🤷

Mike Hayes
810 Posted 20/06/2023 at 17:15:19
Eric Myles,

Kenwright wasn't looking for investment or a billionaire 24/7, he was looking for a mug – that's why all others were fobbed off as he wanted to remain in charge. What better than a fool with lots of money and no real interest in football?

Eric Myles
811 Posted 20/06/2023 at 17:21:14
Mike #810, so you agree, it's Kenwright's fault we're in the shit we're in!
Steve Brown
812 Posted 20/06/2023 at 17:24:15
Next season won't start with Kenwright as Chairman.

He will just stay long enough to paralyse decision-making this summer and screw-up pre-season planning. Because, that is how he rolls and always has done.

Every step of his career at Everton has been dictated by his own control-needs, vanity and ego. He genuinely thinks he is fundamental to the club and irreplaceable.

Steve Brown
813 Posted 20/06/2023 at 17:30:55
If the club announced the departures of the CEO, CFO, NED and confirmed an update on the Chairman in the 48 hours, it signifies that minority investment agreement is in place and new directors are lined up.

The club might be incompetent but it is not totally stupid.

Tony Everan
814 Posted 20/06/2023 at 18:05:59
Nobody knows what the heck is going on, silence at the moment is definitely not golden for us fans.

My guess is that Kenwright is bitter and wounded. He's now digging his heels in and playing hardball. He's probably got enough information for the authorities to cause Moshiri (and the club itself) all sorts of problems.

What's making me think it is the 48 hours statement. After that, nothing, just a blank. The fact that there is no easy, rational explanation forthcoming makes me think there is bad blood behind the scenes. Stuff that you can't explain to the press or supporters.

If something like this is going on, then Kenwright should be ashamed of himself. He's made millions out of the club and now should leave without causing more damage.

Just please go, and let the club move on to a new chapter.

Jay Harris
815 Posted 20/06/2023 at 18:16:50
Tony,

You are right but that man has no shame.

I believe (and hope) that the new board excluding Kenwright will be announced after 30 June so the new directors cannot be accountable for this fiscal year.

Allen Rodgers
816 Posted 20/06/2023 at 18:22:52
Repeating myself no doubt, but Kenwright has got something on Moshiri. No other explanation. Kenwright's small shareholding is a red herring.
Joe McMahon
817 Posted 20/06/2023 at 18:26:49
Tony,

And we all remember when many applauded him (why, I've no idea) when his rather large face appeared on the big screen.

Kim Vivian
818 Posted 20/06/2023 at 18:46:21
Eric - 808.

That's company law. "More than 25%: a shareholder with this minority shareholding can block special resolutions, eg, adopting new articles of association." etc etc.

My post was in reply to Brian saying that because he is holding the purse strings, Moshiri will still be running the club or words to that effect. That shareholding issue would not override board policy and of course Moshiri is not a director in any event.

Dale Self
819 Posted 20/06/2023 at 18:49:42
Tony 814 and Allen 816, intriguing speculation. I'm thinking there is something there.

MSP could solve it but Moshiri would be in a worse position to get it done. Bill knows this and is showing some teeth. Let's hope they get kicked in.

Andy Crooks
820 Posted 20/06/2023 at 19:07:32
I suspect and fear that Kenwright is riding out this storm. He is behaving exactly as a fantasist would. Being chairman of Everton is the very heart of his existance. It will take a stronger man than Moshiri to remove him.

His removal alone is not enough, he should be held accountable. It will not hurt him, though, he is cut from the same cloth as Trump and Johnson. Shame is not part of the fantasist's world.

Gary Brown
821 Posted 20/06/2023 at 19:13:25
Rumours gathering that Kenwright has agreement to stay for 12-18 months to finish the stadium. Some further rumours about MSP deal stalling too.

Just Twitter and forums of course, but the ongoing delays certainly lend credence.

Christine Foster
822 Posted 20/06/2023 at 19:50:14
When you lose a senior management team, the remaining incumbent is there because the owner either needs someone to do the short term holding the fort until a deal is thrashed out, or the new potential owners are unhappy.

Kenwright doesn't hold the cards, Moshiri does, but I believe a deal had been done with MSP and the board let go, keeping Kenwright on the ground to do the final nuts and bolts.

I suspect MSP wanted Kenwright gone but Moshiri's ear has been bent by Kenwright and the fear of the impending independent commission, with no directors or Chairman who can argue the case to them, it leaves the club exposed.

Moshiri needs someone to argue the case for the club – not an empty boardroom. MSP want him gone. Moshiri doesn't; not about friendship, it's about protecting interests.

As I said before, cut from the same cloth, it's about the money, it's about Moshiri trying to convince MSP to keep him until the independent commission sits. That lunch with Levy is costing us far more than Dele Alli will…

Barry Hesketh
823 Posted 20/06/2023 at 20:05:40
Given the deafening silence in the last week or so, it's sounding more and more like the three people who left last Monday took Moshiri by surprise?

If Bill does stay on, I think any investment may well fail to materialise and we could be looking at another period of financial tight-rope walking and instability.

Of course, that's all conjecture on my part, but in the absence of any news, it's inevitable that the vacuum is filled with wild speculation. What we do know is that Mr Chairman has form for this sort of thing, so nothing should surprise us.

Dale Self
824 Posted 20/06/2023 at 20:12:51
I believe it is about Bill regaining some stature lost in the way this played out. The problem is likely that he believes he is entitled to stay in some reputable capacity until the stadium opens.

MSP do not share this perspective and so we are back to Moshiri the compromised man who lacks the mettle for this kind of action. MSP will continue to turn the screw if they do not want Bill around. Anytime MSP stalls the commission starts making noise again. Moshiri needs to find a graduate student versed in game theory so he can figure this out.

Christine Foster
825 Posted 20/06/2023 at 20:15:22
Of course, according to The Times, the breach relates to a tax issue concerning the loans for the stadium build. If that is the case, then I cannot see the need to keep Kenwright in place as tax is a financial minefield best left to specialists who know what they are doing.

Which poses the circular question, why is Kenwright still here?

Nick Page
826 Posted 20/06/2023 at 20:40:59
Imagine if Kenwright is actually staying on to “finish the stadium”. Hahahahahahaha

It gets worse every day.

This man/parasite lives in London and runs a theatre company. Colin Chong was running the stadium development.

I think we need more protests to get rid of this despicable bastard. It was never really about Denise et al, they were just Kenwright stooges. His behaviour is beyond reprehensible. No football club has ever had to put up with this before.

Nick Page
827 Posted 20/06/2023 at 20:45:44
Kenwright in all his glory:

https://twitter.com/BlightyOld/status/1671127153755271168?s=20

Ernie Baywood
828 Posted 20/06/2023 at 21:05:26
Christine, it's the million-dollar question... Why is Kenwright still here?

When 48 hours became 72 and then 96, I just laughed at what a joke this club is to set its own deadline and then miss it.

But at this point, it isn't just a missed deadline. There's clearly more to it.

What that 'more' is... well that's anyone's guess. Is Bill hardballing over his share price? Wants something in his honour? Or is he fighting to stay?

All will be revealed within 48 hours... Or two weeks... Or a few months.

Tony Abrahams
829 Posted 20/06/2023 at 21:21:23
This thread has started reminding me of One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, but instead of medication, it's speculation time!

Although George McKane will kill me for comparing Chairman Bill to Randall McMurphy but, because it's getting near the end, we just need our new chief, to put a pillow over his head and end his very long and sad association with Everton Football Club.

I tried to google that, Nick, but I ended up getting an article from 2007, with Bill Kenwright, saying he loves cup competitions.😢

Finn Taylor
830 Posted 20/06/2023 at 21:26:48
I see on Twitter there is a claim Chairman Bill is staying...
Stephen Davies
831 Posted 20/06/2023 at 21:31:01
Finn.
I think that's a Windup
George Freeman
832 Posted 20/06/2023 at 22:24:44
Just for your information. At this time all four are still showing as active directors on Companies House records.

If the gang of three did actually resign on Monday 12 June as reported Everton FC have until Sunday 25 June to notify Companies House. This is a legal requirement for retiring directors from a Limited Company in the UK.

Oliver Molloy
833 Posted 20/06/2023 at 22:40:31
As much as I am in the "please go" corner, until a new chairman or new board is in place, Kenwright will stay and that makes sense to me!
Colin Glassar
834 Posted 20/06/2023 at 22:58:35
For how long, Oliver? Until he decides to leave? Until Moshiri grows a pair? Until he departs this mortal coil?

You do realise that, until Moshiri makes a decision and names a new board and chairman, we are a rudderless ship heading straight to the rocks?

Spot on, Nick. Now is not the time to let up on the pressure campaign.

Simon Harrison
835 Posted 20/06/2023 at 23:32:51
HI Michael [790] and all those asking IF DBB and GI have left the club.

As Michael has pointed out, the website has been updated that they are no longer 'Our people'.

I can confirm as given from an in-the-know (insider) third party, that our former CEO and Strategy and Finance Director no longer represent EFC in any capacity, following a VERY handsome pay off to each.

As for Graeme Sharp, it appears even inside sources have no inkling as to what has befallen our Sharpy, after his resignation.

Lastly, before anyone starts thinking that Mr Kenwright is going to depart EFC in the 'immediate', I suggest that they familiarise themselves with the recently amended (15 February 2023) Memorandum and Articles of Association for EFC;

See here;

EFC M&MA

Just click on the link dated 15 February, and then when the PDF fails to open click on the upper centre RHS 'Open on desktop' and it will open.

Needless to say, as last man standing, Barnacle Bill appears even more impervious to dismissal, even though Mr Moshiri owns 94.1% of the club, he needs 95% (not difficult to attain, agreed) to call a meeting of the shareholders, to wit, contains a 30-day delay to call, and finalise, and even then it can be delayed...

So, unless our much beloved Chairman, and self proclaimed 'greatest blue ever'! (some call after reading many people's posts on here) starts to cooperate with any plan in motion (If indeed he isn't, and if indeed there is a plan) ere' long, then this could be a much lengthier wait.

Also note, that the sale of shares has been amended in early February, so that now, any shareholder, can refuse to sell their shares.

NB Moshiri now CANNOT make a Compulsory Acquisition of Shares, as he is no longer trying to take over the company, as he now has control of the company...

See here;

Compulsory Aquisition of shares

In other words, EFC (Moshiri) but represented by Kenwright, is now bound by Company Law (The Companies Act 2006 and earlier) to maintain Bill's position, until new directors are appointed. The fly in the ointment being, that Kenwright is the sole Director of EFC and as such, is legally, the only person able to appoint (legally via The Companies Act 2006) new directors...?

Oh what a tangled web has been weaved?

In essence, allowing Barrett-Baxendale and Ingles to resign, without appointing their replacements first, has given Bill the keys to the kingdom. If he is unwilling to go, then it will have to be via the EGM (Extraordinary General Meeting) route, which is a minimum of 30 days, but can be obfuscated to be longer… NB see the Company M&AA, as it can be delayed for various reasons.

All-in-all, unless Messers Moshiri and Kenwright can come to some amicable, peaceful, and very likely very expensive compromise, Mr Kenwright has the club over a barrel.

Good wishes all, and I wish it wasn't so...

ps: I forgot to ask, if there are any EFC shareholders on TW? If so, have you been contacted regarding any upcoming meeting at all? It would be interesting and enlightening to know.

Dale Self
836 Posted 20/06/2023 at 23:44:27
Good stuff, Simon, thanks. I'm wondering if Bill played himself into this position or if Moshiri was aware of the resignations and their implication?
Simon Harrison
837 Posted 20/06/2023 at 00:11:17
Hi Dale,

Well as George Freeman pointed out a few posts above; the club have until midnight Monday 26 June to notify Companies House re the resignations of the 3 Amigos. Else the Club face fines and potential operational sanctions from Companies House

I personally, have the opinion that not all is as it seemed at the time of the resignations:

i) I believe Bill got the handsome severance deals for the three other directors organised, as he'd sign them off; and got them to resign before Moshiri, MSP and the other players (Andy Bell and George Downing) were ready. Yet, Moshiri couldn't have stopped the resignations even if he wanted to, as he isn't on the board. So Bill, as the remaining Director accepted said resignations.

iI) Bill probably, only my opinion mind, then asked to speak to Moshiri, but said he'd decide what he was doing in 48 hours (hence the club presser, which had Bill written large all over it). As most have said to appease the masses, and shift the focus onto Moshiri.

iii) Once Bill had spoken to Moshiri and explained what I had posted above, in #835, he probably tried to 'strongarm' Moshiri, but knew that Moshiri would have to speak to MSP etc. Hence the 48 hours.

iv) I think Moshiri has spoken with the MSP group first, and explained what happened. Whilst communicating with Uncle Alisher what has transpired. To which Usmanov has probably said "Sit tight, and don't give in to Bill, just let MSP try and sort it out... Don't get anymore financially involved, save your money!"

v) That is why it is where we are now.

The danger isn't that the takeover might not happen; it is to my thinking, the delay to the process which is damaging the potential that MSP etc could help out in the transfer window, and the wider commercial, and short- to medium-term interests for the club.

As Paul the Esk has just written about, delays always cost, and I think that this is what Bill is counting on, that he doesn't have to do anything, other than sit there, whilst all the others have to do the wheeling and dealing.

The cost of delay By Paul the Esk.

Pete Clarke
838 Posted 20/06/2023 at 00:13:05
Somebody made a decision to get rid of the other three board members because they would not have resigned together just like that.

This would surely not have happened without some replacements being lined up, so maybe Moshiri asked them all to resign but Bill is standing firm with a threat or two aimed at Moshiri.

Or maybe it was Bill who told the others to resign because our owner hasn't got the guts to take Bill on and he's just sat there like us hoping something happens.

What a nightmare of a football club we all follow! What a poisonous bastard Kenwright is!

Have MSP got their foot in the door yet to have any kind of say? Are they just waiting for Bill to fall before installing their own board?

I've never wanted to see the back of someone since Thatcher was in power.

Colin Glassar
839 Posted 21/06/2023 at 00:22:05
I knew it, I knew it. Thanks, Simon.

Kenwright's got Moshiri right where he wants him. He'll walk away, eventually, far richer once Muggins takes the knee and bows to his demands.

This is like Wikileaks, the Panama papers, the Pentagon Papers, Watergate, Partygate etc…. all rolled into one. Bill Kenwright is one evil bastard.

Simon Harrison
840 Posted 21/06/2023 at 00:24:47
Pete [838]

Ask yourself (and anyone else the same) the question;

If Barrett-Baxendale, Ingles and the Sharp resign prematurely from a possible planned timetable for a replacement board, qui bono, who benefits (the most?)

Answers on a postcard:

i) Kenwright (The sole incumbent Director)?

ii) Moshiri (The majority shareholder, but not a Director)?

iii) MSP (The minority investor, with a guaranteed two seats on the new board)?

iv) AN Other?

Simon Harrison
841 Posted 21/06/2023 at 00:34:26
Colin, to my mind, Bill has always been motivated by power, control and money.

Currently, he is the most powerful man at EFC. He currently controls how the majority shareholder and potential minority investors are going to have to act. Both of which means he is potentially going to make a large pile of money!

Tick, tick, tick. He's not evil per se, it is just the way he's wired.

A typical narcassist and control freak pattern of behaviour; and remember, Colin, in his mind he's doing this for the betterment of the club he 'loves'. (Read 'controls and runs', and has many hundreds of his acolytes working there for him!)

Brian Denton
842 Posted 21/06/2023 at 01:16:46
Simon (840) it's 'cui bono', not 'qui bono'.
Pete Clarke
843 Posted 21/06/2023 at 02:14:03
Well, there's too many unanswered questions and their silence is infuriating to a point that, if we don't make some noise and show our true feelings at this abhorrent leadership, then we will be stuck with these dickheads as we sink into the Championship.

It's pre-season and very difficult but something has to happen down there to get a response.

Hire a ferry for the day and make the protests from there for all to see. Pay one of the workers to allow some lads in to the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock and get some Banners up because doing nothing is not an option.

Getting nasty with these fuckers is long overdue and we can't let Kenwright beat a whole fan base (assuming there's no pro Kenwright fans left, that is).
Jack Convery
844 Posted 21/06/2023 at 03:40:56
This needs to end and end soon. Civil war within the club, what's next, bodies buried under the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock!

Get the FSA into Goodison Park now and sort this out before it's too late – which it may already be. People with lust for money and power… don't you just loathe them. Just FUck Off and give us our club back NOW!

Bob Parrington
845 Posted 21/06/2023 at 03:49:23
The selection of chairperson is a board decision. Bill cannot self appoint, that is, unless he is the only director. So, if MSP buy in and have 2 directors appointed (courtesy of Kenwright allowing this), without special guarantees for Bill to remain as chairman, the new board can vote him out? For those "legals" on here, is this correct?

So, Bill does hold all the cards.

So, tactically, once again Moshiri has shot himself in the foot and handed the company law power to Kenwright alone. So, as some have mentioned on here already, he is likely holding out for a large settlement.

He might think he is a True Blue but he is more a mercenary than this.

Kim Vivian
846 Posted 21/06/2023 at 07:42:06
Bob - does this help...(Kenwright should have a read!)

"The primary responsibilities of board directors to shareholders relate to their fiduciary duties, including the duty of care, duty of loyalty and duty of obedience. These duties require board directors to place the best interests of the company ahead of their own.

They must make decisions for the company and act in a manner that an ordinary, prudent person would. The duty of obedience requires boards to ensure that the company remains in compliance with all laws and regulations.

Another responsibility that the board directors have to shareholders is to compose and maintain a diverse, independent and highly competent board. Sound decision-making only comes from a wide variety of perspectives. Shareholders are entitled to know that the board overseeing the company's operations is well-qualified and up to the task."

Doesn't sound like Kenwright, does it?

For more, check out:
What Are the Board of Directors' Responsibilities to Their Shareholders?

Tony Abrahams
847 Posted 21/06/2023 at 07:48:40
A weekend in London, demonstrating outside the theatre Bill Kenwright purchased with money he made out of Everton, would not be a bad place to start.
Danny O’Neill
848 Posted 21/06/2023 at 08:02:27
Just say when, Tony.
Kim Vivian
849 Posted 21/06/2023 at 08:10:43
It really is becoming farcical, this club situation. It's a good job Sean Dyche is the man he is because he will need every ounce of his steely backbone to weather all this shite and keep his players motivated. With the clock ticking, his job just gets harder and harder.

I guess he may actually know more than seems to be in the public domain but, with the ineptitude on show from his employers, I wouldn't knock him for just packing his bags and fucking off. Many would have by now.

Mark Ryan
850 Posted 21/06/2023 at 08:19:15
It is beginning to sound fairly ominous for us as a football club moving forward.

There is no dialogue from MSP, Moshiri or Kenwright. We've not been party to any recent news reports or seen any info on any news platforms and there is an apparent silence along the corridors within Goodison Park.

Throw us a bone, Everton, anything will do. A scrap of information would be gratefully received.

Brian Harrison
851 Posted 21/06/2023 at 09:29:31
Harry Truman, a former President of the US, had a sign made saying "The Buck Stops hHere" and the sign was put front and centre on his desk.

A great pity that those in power at Goodison don't have a similar sign. But I suppose in reality they have got our money in season ticket sales for the coming season, without us knowing what league we would be playing in or what players we would be watching.

I can’t think of another business where the customers show such loyalty for so little in return. So maybe we shouldn't be surprised by the silence after all, because we have shown that, whatever the circumstances, we will pay up.

The problem is that I, like most season ticket holders, will pay up irrespective of what league we are in, so I suppose we are architects of our own downfall.

Also, let’s be very clear that Moshiri has kept Kenwright as Chairman all this time and at any point he could have removed him, and he chose not too. Now, because Moshiri is so inept, he has to keep Kenwright on board as I understand its illegal to have a business without at least one director.

Ernie Baywood
852 Posted 21/06/2023 at 09:57:34
Kim,

Dyche joined this club just as we were selling Gordon and not buying a striker. The appointment was timed so that he wasn't in any way culpable and maybe even could serve as an excuse for not signing anyone.

He's not the lone good egg in this story. He's a man who got offered a lot of money, took it, and did what he needed to do. He certainly didn't use his obvious leverage at that time.

Kim Vivian
853 Posted 21/06/2023 at 10:16:00
Ernie - yes, I have to concede he is getting paid handsomely to swim in the shit that he's up to his neck in but surely no way can he have envisaged the scenario now facing the club. Jeez knows what he may have been told, promised or otherwise.

I don't quite get your 'excuse for not signing anyone' comment, but aside from that, I'm sure his thoughts at that time would have been - if he could avoid he drop (plan A) - considerably more optimistic than they probably are now.

Jerome Shields
854 Posted 21/06/2023 at 10:16:28
A obvious question to ask: Does Moshiri know anyone else who runs a club and is prepared replace Kenwright and deal with the Independent Commission?

Another obvious question; Would Moshiri know what such a person has to do in the carrying out of their duties?

The answers to these two questions explain a lot.

Kevin Molloy
855 Posted 21/06/2023 at 11:09:20
Lots of pressure now on Bill. Time for a signing, methinks. Their silly brains can't be happy and sad at the same time.
Laurie Hartley
856 Posted 21/06/2023 at 12:26:05
Jerome # 854 - Arsene Wenger ticks a few of your boxes.
Mark Taylor
857 Posted 21/06/2023 at 12:38:10
Simon @835,

Thanks for your very specific and informative post. It is enlightening in every sense of the word.

Enough has been said about this farce but all I want is my club to cease being a laughing stock...

Dennis Stevens
858 Posted 21/06/2023 at 13:13:52
It's all grimly unpleasant & concerning. I'm now wondering whether this situation is only going to reach resolution in court, at some point?
Tony Abrahams
859 Posted 21/06/2023 at 13:26:07
I said many months ago that I had heard that there was a very strong possibility that Everton would be sold at the end of the season. I have just been speaking to the person who told me and he said that Moshiri is supposedly still speaking to this other party.

I was and am still getting told that this other party are allegedly not interested in investing in Everton but want to own the football club outright.

I'd have thought it was a no-brainer for Moshiri if this is actually true but the same person also told me that he was getting told D-day was supposed to be last night, so hopefully we have not got long to wait now…🤞

Jerome Shields
860 Posted 21/06/2023 at 13:36:07
Laurie #856,

Would Arsene Wenger be prepared to work for Moshiri?

Arsene Wenger could work for a lot of top well-run clubs if he wanted to.

Kim Vivian
861 Posted 21/06/2023 at 13:43:05
This club paralysis (or evident paralysis) is really starting to bother me now. I am genuinely starting to fear for the future of our club. The only glimmer of optimism remains so long as progress continues to be made on the stadium.

Somebody, somewhere, fucking say something!!

Barry Rathbone
862 Posted 21/06/2023 at 13:47:06
Tony @859,

Did your mole have any idea of the wealth of the interested party?

Have they the requisite loot as per Mansour and Newcastle to restore our historical greatness or just a newer version of mediocrity a la Kenwright and utter disaster via Moshiri?

Dennis Stevens
863 Posted 21/06/2023 at 13:49:23
Barry, knowing Everton, our prospective new owner was probably expecting to conclude the deal as soon as he resurfaced from his brief submarine trip!
Jim Lloyd
864 Posted 21/06/2023 at 13:54:51
Thanks, Simon, for such a well-researched post and it indicates maybe why nothing is coming out of the club.

If this situation that Simon has put forward is correct, it speaks volumes about Kenwright.

There's no one at the helm but the Chairman and he has the good running of our club in his hands... God help us!

Jim Lloyd
865 Posted 21/06/2023 at 13:56:32
Dennis !!! :) Just our luck eh!
Tony Abrahams
866 Posted 21/06/2023 at 14:00:39
I don't think they are in the big league, Barry, but not many are. Man City, Newcastle, Chelsea and soon Man Utd, are going to be light years away from everyone else financially, which explains how much damage Kenwright has inflicted upon Everton over many years.


Barry Hesketh
867 Posted 21/06/2023 at 14:26:24
Tony @866
It's probably that bed-sit guy again, I heard he won a few bob on a scratchcard just prior to Christmas and has been harassing the board ever since, perhaps he hired the head locker?
Dale Self
868 Posted 21/06/2023 at 14:29:50
Hi Simon 837 and follow ups, thanks for going out on a limb with that. I find that to be fairly unassailable, Bill is that kind of guy.
Ian Pilkington
869 Posted 21/06/2023 at 14:32:16
Tony @866

I sincerely hope your mole is correct. It would explain the delay in the demise of Kenwright, who surely cannot survive in any capacity with the rest of the board gone.

Man City's previous owner, Shinawatra, was a billionaire but not in the mega wealthy league. However, after a little over a year as owner he did facilitate the sale of the club to Skeikh Mansour.

This may give us some hope that something similar could happen to us with the new stadium getting nearer to completion.

Jim Lloyd
870 Posted 21/06/2023 at 14:35:16
I'd be content if we got bought out, or someone who invested in EFC who knew what they were doing, could run a club properly and who communicated with us, the supporters. That they had a proper plan of action and hired the best people they could afford, who knew their roles in the club and brought in the best players they could afford.

At the minute, this reminds me of what happened to the Playhouse when Kenwright was in charge.

Kim Vivian
871 Posted 21/06/2023 at 14:43:36
Just asking - but referencing the resignations and there having been no filing of such at Companies House yet, does that not technically mean that the resignations haven't officially happened yet?

Formal paperwork may have been completed but, until it is ratified (or whatever the correct word may be) by Companies House, surely Simon's 3 amigos still all retain the responsibilities of their directorships.

Not sure what difference it makes but these formalities crossed my mind. I would add that, to the best of my knowledge, a director who has resigned is not immediately absolved of all or any misdemeanours incurred by the Ltd Company which is of course an independent entity by virtue of being Ltd.

Maybe bodies are still being buried.

Danny O’Neill
872 Posted 21/06/2023 at 14:47:59
Oh, they are communicating with me now, as I am sure they are with other official members.

Email offering ticket and hotel deals for the 23/24 season received. I shouldn't knock the marketing effort too much as it's something I've criticised it in the past. But the timing!

I guess it's a start! There is life in some of the corridors of Goodison Park.

Lynn Maher
873 Posted 21/06/2023 at 14:50:09
On a lighter note. On this day 15 years, we got married at Goodison Park and also had our reception there. What a fantastic day it was.

Unfortunately for my husband, he forgot this date today.
The burning question is, who will now last longer, him or Bill?

Ian Horan
874 Posted 21/06/2023 at 14:53:05
There is a Chairman and CEO of high standing already available!!!

Step forward, Christian Purlow. Premier League and former Aston Villa and Liverpool CEO. Track record good.

Danny O’Neill
875 Posted 21/06/2023 at 14:53:57
Give him the benefit of the doubt, Lynn. These are worrying times. Waking up at ungodly hours reaching for the Smart Phone, even though we only checked it before going to sleep.

Dogs thinking they're going out at 4am and me shouting at them to give me an hour.

Jim Lloyd
876 Posted 21/06/2023 at 14:54:30
Those resignations may not have been published yet, Kim.

Good second point, Kim: "responsible during the events being investigated".

James Flynn
877 Posted 21/06/2023 at 14:55:34
I don't see why Moshiri can't simply fire him and let the chips fall.

"I own 94% of the shares and you own 1%. And you have me over a barrel?"

I just don't buy it. Maybe a lawsuit. Okay.

But I'M stuck because you own 1% of the shares? I'm not buying that, whatever law is quoted.

Cut Kenwright loose and let him sue.

Allen Rodgers
878 Posted 21/06/2023 at 15:01:04
Danny those match ticket / hotel deals come from sportsbreak.com rather than the club itself. They are very poor value too.
Finn Taylor
879 Posted 21/06/2023 at 15:11:20
Jim @870 - What happened to the Playhouse when Chairman Bill was involved?
Lynn Maher
880 Posted 21/06/2023 at 15:12:08
Danny, I am that person! I’m awake before the birds nowadays. I seem to have spent the last two seasons telling everyone to keep the faith, when so many doubted. The local cats look fed up when they see me glaring at them, as they slink home at daybreak.
Len Hawkins
881 Posted 21/06/2023 at 15:21:59
Lynn #873

Was Kenwright begging you teary eyed to be your Matron of Honour.
Obviously you would have told him there isn't one iota of Honour in your big fat bloated body you Clegg you.
And just as a final nail in his ginormous coffin I hope Jenny and Judge John Deed clear off together and leave him to cry over photo's of Dave Hickson.

David Currie
882 Posted 21/06/2023 at 15:36:02
Lynn 873,
Bill all day long!!
Unless your man can redeem himself with lots of Flowers and dinner at a nice restaurant!
Lynn Maher
883 Posted 21/06/2023 at 15:41:08
David @882. He did ask would I like a McDonalds !
Jay Harris
884 Posted 21/06/2023 at 15:50:42
As far as memory serves me and it doesnt much these days our Articles of association require 3 directors at all times so assuming MSP have 2 representatives on the board which would have to happen before the paperwork was submitted for the 3 departing incumbents that would still leave Kenwright on the board unless we promote say Thelwell to the board or the new investors come up with more than 2.

Nurse, nurse .

Dennis Stevens
885 Posted 21/06/2023 at 15:54:01
Perhaps Moshiri will join the Board, if only in the interim, so as to help move things forward & complete the long overdue clear out of the old Board..
Mark Murphy
886 Posted 21/06/2023 at 16:18:53
I am currently out of Everton until the 12th of August and for the sake of my sanity will not be contactable. For any urgent matters in my absence please contact someone else.
UTFT!
Jim Lloyd
887 Posted 21/06/2023 at 16:32:24
Finn
, It went bust mate.
Kim Vivian
888 Posted 21/06/2023 at 16:47:26
Jay – yes. It's a quandary, isn't iT?

Which is what got me to thinking (my disjointed ramble @871) that officially we may actually still have 4 directors as per the AoA requirement, the out goings not being gone until paperwork submitted, and accepted. If you get what I mean...!

I mean, like, who actually told us about the resignations?

Brian Williams
889 Posted 21/06/2023 at 17:11:05
'Nother week we'll reach that light at the end of the tunnel.
Jim Lloyd
890 Posted 21/06/2023 at 17:12:39
Jay, do we have two MSP members on the board??

I'd have thought there'd have to be a shareholder meeting or something like it. Must admit, I haven't got a clue about choosing board members, or even if the last three are still responsible for what's gone on in the past.

It's frightening to think that Kenwright alone is Captain of the good ship Everton FC!

Tony Abrahams
892 Posted 21/06/2023 at 17:33:49
I couldn’t find that information when I googled Bill Kenwright, Liverpool playhouse Jim, but I found some other articles from the past. For a quiet and shy man, (Bill’s own words) he’s spoke more shite, than twenty men on a drink and drug-fueled three day bender.
Geoff Lambert
893 Posted 21/06/2023 at 17:51:59
Another 48 hours it's groundhog day again.
Jay Harris
894 Posted 21/06/2023 at 17:53:36
Jim, so far it is only the gang of four registered at Companies House but, once their resignations are submitted, which I assume they have, we have 30 days to register any new directors to make up a minimum of three that is required.

I don't know the position with MSP but you have to assume that the other three resigned because there were incoming, at least I hope so.

Finn Taylor
895 Posted 21/06/2023 at 17:56:56
Well now am looking at past articles from Chairman Bill and, oh, there are many gems in there... this one stood out:

He added: “I went to a psychotherapist for a couple of years regarding my love life. It was after my divorce and he said he'd never come across a man with such an affinity for the past."

Jim Lloyd
896 Posted 21/06/2023 at 18:34:03
Thanks Jay. Well, it doesn't look good to me, because they have resigned, So I'd assume they couldn't play any part in the Goodison boardroom. Mind you, with Kenwright still as Chairman (I guess) anything could happen.

About MSP, I hope so too mate. But this feller buggered up the King's Dock, I'm just praying he doesn't bugger up the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock. I think that, if he isn't the man to cut the ribbon, he'd do anything he could to screw things up.

Tony, a lad in work was a stagehand at the Playhouse, when Kenwright was running the place. I'll tell you what he told me when we meet up at the Harlech.

Finn, too true – I remember Moshiri say to him, "We don't want to live in a museum." Kenwright! He's like the Phantom of the Opera!

Tony Abrahams
897 Posted 21/06/2023 at 18:43:17
Once Kenwright leaves Everton for good Jim, I genuinely don’t want to hear anything about the man ever again.

Reading some of the articles from yesteryear is enough, I just wish Washington Irving, would have put Kenwright asleep, instead of us allowing the bastard to put us asleep instead.

Jim Lloyd
898 Posted 21/06/2023 at 19:11:13
Totally agree, Tony! I suppose it's nightmare time and he's sticking on like a limpet.

Yeh, if Kenwright was Rip Van Kenwright it would be a dream; but while he's still clinging on, it's a nightmare.

Andy Crooks
899 Posted 21/06/2023 at 19:31:10
Kenwright's desk sign read "The Buck Starts Here",

One always has an image of someone they know about but have never met. I see Kenwright as the Spitting Image puppet of Kenneth Baker. A slug leaving a nasty trail.

Bobby Mallon
900 Posted 21/06/2023 at 19:46:15
Just don't go the home games until he fucks off.

The ground has been full for years but we are still in financial trouble. The game-going fan should protest heavily at every game till he is gone.

They've destroyed this club, him and Moshiri. The fans are the true lifeblood. He would rather see the club relegated than fuck off…

Geoff Lambert
901 Posted 21/06/2023 at 20:04:47
48 hours, the big fat liar – he's holding out for a few dollars more, the joker.

There will be lots of angry men on ToffeeWeb. How I wish I could go back to the future and stop him taking control.

The usual suspects are still hanging in there like a bad smell. There are lots of rumours on the social network but it's all misery.

There will be blood soon, I tell you. It's a wonderful life supporting Everton at this moment in time.

Geoff Lambert
902 Posted 21/06/2023 at 20:06:43
Got to laugh.

Keep the faith, Blues – we will still be supporting the club when they are long gone.

Christine Foster
903 Posted 21/06/2023 at 20:22:21
Andy, no, no, you read that wrong, it says "The Buck stays here!"

In the absence of any information from the club about anything, all we are left with is speculation which is a thankless exercise in self harm for the club. (what does the Communications dept actually do? Must be the easiest money to be had in football)

Make no mistake this is a deliberate dictact of the owner and chairman and their total and utter contempt for the fans. This well worn Kenwright strategy now embraced by the owner, (who has bought into the chairman's rethoric about abusive fans) its responsible for the anger, the abuse and the condemnation of supporters. Supporters of a team despite the club. I've said as such for years, perhaps people understand why I have long felt this way.

We are in one of the most important transfer window in the clubs history. We have released players but so far not brought a single new face in. Not even a new tea lady.

Whatever the result of the independent commission findings we deserve it. In all my years of support, I have never witnessed such disgraceful dereliction of duty, a monument of self interest.

Back to the transfer window, you know, that period of time when clubs compete for the signature of players, I ask you, when did this club actually win any race for a signature against other clubs? Are we so used to seeing what's left at the bottom of the barrel on deadline day? Has it reached the point where we cannot sign a free player or loan because of wages yet? Our 1st team squad or subs bench will never see two keepers as subs again, let alone 5 subs, we may not even have that.

Speculation, frustration and anger, is the result of a culture of self interest that sticks two fingers up at the fans.

Michael Kenrick
904 Posted 21/06/2023 at 20:32:58
Kim @888,

"Officially we may actually still have 4 directors as per the AoA requirement, the outgoings not being gone until paperwork submitted, and accepted."

I really don't think that's how it works, Kim.

I got the impression that Companies House is a bit like the Land Registry. It's their job to record the information and make it publically available – which is quite remarkable in these days of conspiracy theorists telling us all sorts of nonsense about who's really in charge and what they are going to do with our money and our hard-won freedom… but I digress.

We moved into our new house and it was definitely ours on the day we closed the deal. We didn't have to wait a month or so until we saw our names on the Title – although it kinda removed any lingering doubts we might have had that we had really done it…

Kim Vivian
905 Posted 21/06/2023 at 20:49:12
Yes, I think you're right, Michael, I was speculating.

Interestingly I have just been reading about directors with shareholdings and it is, or can be, quite convoluted. It is not unusual to make the roles of directors and shareholders conditional on each other. This means that if a director resigns or has their appointment terminated, then they are automatically obliged to transfer their shares as well (generally to the continuing shareholders, or back to the company itself). Similarly, if a director sells their shares, then they would be forced to resign as a director of the company.

We don't know what our Articles of Association say in this regard but it could be relevant to the timeline we are experiencing.

Simon Harrison
906 Posted 21/06/2023 at 21:28:56
Hi Brian at [842]

Many thanks for the correction; I've never studied Latin and always assumed that Qui Bono was spelt as it sounded (not Cui to my ear?) Anyway, after reading your post, it brought to mind that famous Latin sketch from Monty Pythons' 'The Life of Brian'.

I've included a link for a few minutes of humour;

Romans go home!

Roger Helm
907 Posted 21/06/2023 at 21:30:18
Is this the longest ever ToffeeWeb thread?
Danny O’Neill
908 Posted 21/06/2023 at 21:34:53
No Roger. A year or so ago, and I can't remember which one, but we got to a monumental 1878 posts and beyond.

I think it was Benitez related.

John McFarlane Snr
909 Posted 21/06/2023 at 22:12:36
Hi Bobby [900],

I'm a little perplexed, you open your post by saying "Just don't go to the home games until he goes away" or words to that effect. Then, further into your post, you say "The game going fans, should protest heavily at every game till he's gone".

If the situation is not resolved by the first game of the season, I intend to do what I have done since 1948 and that is to attend whenever I have the opportunity to do so, which as a season ticket holder is 19 League home games, and possible cup fixtures, or any friendly games that may be arranged.

If I'm going to miss a game, it will be due to illness or the work of the 'Grim Reaper', I'm not the sort to cut off my nose to spite my face.

Like most fans, I am really disappointed with the way the club has been allowed to fall so far from the elite position we once occupied but, if God spares me, I will be sitting in the Park End encouraging the team, which I consider is what supporters are supposed to do.

John McFarlane Snr
913 Posted 21/06/2023 at 22:19:06
Hi all, apologies for the multiple posts. I claim innocence.
Brendan McLaughlin
914 Posted 21/06/2023 at 22:20:21
John #909, 910, 911 & 912…

Got the feeling that "perplexed" is something of an understatement.

Danny O’Neill
915 Posted 21/06/2023 at 22:29:43
I double tap occasionally, John Senior.

I draw lines with Everton.

Dismay at how the club has been managed and been allowed to decline over decades.

And I will be vocal about that as much as anyone, but in my own words. We all phrase it in a different way.

But come matchday, I only care about one thing. The team and Everton winning.

And don't forget, you're going to Bramley-Moore Dock.

Paul Birmingham
916 Posted 21/06/2023 at 22:44:14
Tony, hopefully, deliverance, and the new beginning for Everton is very soon. Let's hope so.

I'd like to think there's a legitimate business reason for the week-and-a-half delay in the removal of Kenwright from Everton FC but the silence from the club sadly suggests that nothing much has changed.

The new season will be here very soon and the passion of the supporters will never change for Everton FC but the club, must act decisively as a 3rd season on the slopes of the volcano will be very difficult to survive.

UTFTs!

John McFarlane Snr
917 Posted 21/06/2023 at 23:30:32
Hi Danny [915],

Like many fans, I thought that the claim of ''It will be in operation for the 2024-25 season'' meant the beginning of the season, but the latest information I read, was that it would be available midway through that season; if it's done properly it should be opened on the first day of the 2025-26 season.

A big disappointment to me, to use a cricketing term I will be '85 not out' on 15 July and I am booked in for an eye operation on that day. Hopefully I won't follow in William Shakespeare's footsteps, born and died on the same date.

Paul Ferry
918 Posted 21/06/2023 at 23:52:06
Actually, John [917], you will be fine and no need to worry!

We do not know the date of Shakespeare's birth. The link to 23 April is roast beef, England, and St George's Day. It is deeply unlikely that he was baptised when he was three days old on 26 April 1564 as he was not a notably sickly child.

Hope the operation goes well.

Don Alexander
919 Posted 22/06/2023 at 02:19:46
Moshiri has been forced to announce to the world that he, on account of his and Kenwright's buffoonery ever since he, Usmanov's muppet, is now spread-eagled over a barrel willing to accommodate any input that won't shatter his, erm, "being" forever.

Kenwright on the other hand is well used to being repeatedly bummed senseless in his pursuit of personal gain, and he's willingly accommodated it regardless of the damage to his persona – and he's now fabulously well-off as a result, regardless of the huge demise of our club.

Moshiri is bad news – Kenwright is poison.

Bob Parrington
920 Posted 22/06/2023 at 03:15:14
Kim@856 - Thanks. I understand these behavioural rules but, as the sole director, I am sure he will feel safe to be looking after his own interests.

Looks like we might reach the 1,000 posts on here. I see John 'senior' is doing his best to help. Ha! Ha!

Larry O'Hara
921 Posted 22/06/2023 at 05:15:51
Michael (904), having used Companies House over the years a few times, I can tell you it isn't always up to date regarding information:

1. Some Directors can get away with not being truthful about their details;

2. Even when changes are notified, there is often a delay before they appear.

There is, on the bright side, a free service whereby if you create a (free) account you can be notified instantly of changes that do take place become public. But always use Companies House Beta (which is free) rather than rip-off sites simulating Companies House, who seek to charge you for free information.

Colin Glassar
922 Posted 22/06/2023 at 06:44:21
Has he gone yet?
Darryl Ritchie
923 Posted 22/06/2023 at 06:52:26
Not yet, Colin… and I'm beginning to believe that he ain't gonna, either.
Colin Glassar
924 Posted 22/06/2023 at 07:54:44
I can see the “directors” box being empty at the start of the season. Another perfect example of Moshiri’s ruinous reign and BK’s malignant presence.

Ladies and gentlemen, forget your transfers, BMD dreams, hope of minimum professionalism into Everton etc…. While Wallace and Grommet are still with us our headlong flight into oblivion will continue unchecked.

Michael Kenrick
925 Posted 22/06/2023 at 08:33:02
Thanks for the insights, Larry @921.

The system inherently has to rely on the honesty and timeliness of those required to submit information about their companies… people like, er… Kenwright and Barrett-Baxendale.

Hmmm… some pithy truism about foxes guarding the henhouse comes to mind!!!

Jerome Shields
926 Posted 22/06/2023 at 08:40:30
I have always had the impression that there have been two camps trying to run Everton: Moshiri & Co and Kenwright & Co.

At times, they have been working against each other. Moshiri & Co's acceptance of Kenwright and their reliance on him can only be explained by some type of agreement between the two parties at the outset of the initial takeover. This was hinted at by Keith Harris, a Director of Everton prior to the takeover.

The arrangement suited both Moshiri & Co and Kenwright & Co. Moshiri has been fully supportive financially and publically. The agenda of Moshiri & Co seems to have been to be at arm's length from the running of the club, but to introduce funds on a conditional basis.

The agenda of Kenwright & Co is to preserve their positions and maintain the status quo. Whilst Moshiri could be a mouthpiece for other parties and dependent on their patronage, Kenwright is a mouthpiece for himself and dishes out his own patronage.

Kenwright has been determined to be central to all things Everton and has always been. The directors that left were under his patronage and he withdrew it. It appears that this decision, though in the offing, was prompted by Kenwright without proper consultation with Moshiri, hence the void we now have.

This could be because, as Simon says @837, Kenwright has agreed the terms of their departure and presented it as a fait accompli to Moshiri, maintaining his patronage position. IMO, it strengthens Kenwright's position, leaving Moshiri no choice but to maintain Kenwright in his position. But it has often been the case that Moshiri had been fully supportive of Kenwright's actions, confounding any attempts at logical explanation.

In the meantime, Everton continues to suffer from the Moshiro & Co and Kenwright & Co relationship and the outcome of the inept management of the club, where the team is a second thought.

David Peate
927 Posted 22/06/2023 at 08:48:42
John Mc senior,

Remember in the 1940s when a highlight of cricket was 1,000 runs in June. I am adding this little contribution towards getting 1,000 posts on this thread in the current June.

Jerome Shields
928 Posted 22/06/2023 at 08:59:40
I can't see Kenwright not having some type of self-serving agenda in the present situation.
Danny O’Neill
929 Posted 22/06/2023 at 09:11:28
“The one thing for sure is that board and those fans, that’s over. Because they really tried to throw those fans under the bus and deflect from the fact they’d been so incompetent”

Ian Wright after the Southampton debacle just hours before the match.

Independent, non Everton perspective. The cat is out of the bag.

No way back. Decide and act.

Brian Harrison
930 Posted 22/06/2023 at 10:01:20
The club is in a mess and solely of its own making. how or when it resolves this mess, I have no idea.

Seems that neither the owner nor the Chairman want to communicate with the fans over what plans are in place to help move this club forward. When a club is in this much mess, it doesn't augur well for the coming season.

I know Sean Dyche has said that he hopes the differences can be reconciled, but I don't see that happening. Players will soon be back at Finch Farm to start pre-season training, and you have to ask: Who is Dyche talking to about possible new signings and plans for players in the last year of their contracts?

Seems Iwobi, with only a year left on his contract, is talking about Champions League football, which suggests he is looking for a move away. Rumours that Gray could be on his way out, and it seems, if given a choice, Branthwaite would rather stay at PSV.

All this needs sorting but, with what's going on, it's hard to see who would be in control of this situation. While our fanbase has proved time and again they back our team through thick and thin, I think, if this toxic situation isn't resolved and quickly, that support could quickly turn and find that they won't put up with this any longer.

I fear that, while the protests have mainly been kept before games, those demonstrations will move inside the ground.

Mark Ryan
931 Posted 22/06/2023 at 10:07:00
I feel genuinely saddened when I can see fans on a variety of forums getting involved in excited discussions about who we are being linked to and asking themselves the questions "Will he come to us?" or "Can we afford him?"

Somehow, they haven't grasped the appalling mess this club is in. I cannot see any business being done before the season opens… zero.

Brian Williams
932 Posted 22/06/2023 at 10:26:02
I remember one summer running to the ice cream van to buy a whopper but he had none so I had a choc ice instead.
Mark Ryan
933 Posted 22/06/2023 at 10:37:30
I think this Summer Brian you'll catch up with the van only to find the Choc Ices are all gone and you'll have to put up with a Mini Milk.
Martin Farrington
934 Posted 22/06/2023 at 11:05:02
Mark @ 931

I hate to think you are correct but I do believe you may be.

We have 4 (or is it 6) loan signing places available. We will be lucky to fill them. Then there are the frees.

But this owner and board have implemented the strategy of waiting for the scraps left before making any move hours before the deadline is up.

I stopped watching or reading links many seasons ago because it's bluster. Smoke and no mirrors. Almost all made up. Leaked (I have no doubt) by our beloved (still) chairman.

I remember at the start of when that dreadful man took his place as owner. Several people I knew, knew him from the theatre world.

He had two shows running and one in the wings. He was flat broke. They warned me that he was superb at portraying the illusion of dreams becoming reality. Of which none ever did.

When Everton secured the services of the occasional fantastic player, it emerged certain other assurances were made re other signings that were coming (allegedly). Nothing ever happened.

This was a repeated process but became all washed out. Too many knew the ruse Moshiri then came into Kenwright's sights. The rest is as we know.

I believe we have gone full circle with that disastrous pairing. A never-never land of empty promises and fake blaming.

Kenwright has done more harm to this club since its inception, including any Everton hater (RNS).

Dave Cook
935 Posted 22/06/2023 at 11:33:18
Martin @ 934,

I do believe it's 4 loans max of which only 2 can be from other Premier League teams.

Eric Myles
936 Posted 22/06/2023 at 11:57:28
Jim #896,"

Tony, a lad in work was a stagehand at the Playhouse, when Kenwright was running the place. I'll tell you what he told me when we meet up at the Harlech."

I used to drink in the Richmond with Billy M, Richard, Bobby (?) and Will so I probably heard the same stories.

Saved the Playhouse, my arse!

Pete Clarke
937 Posted 22/06/2023 at 11:59:09
This is absolute madness.

Somehow through silence and ignorance, these idiots are still in a position to make further and possibly more fateful decisions on who we sign, who we let go, etc.

All past protests will mean absolutely zilch if Kenwright remains in place. Moshiri himself has to go at some point but no way can we allow the Fat Controller to make any more decisions unless it's the one that matters to us all.

Sean Dyche will have the perfect excuse for failure and once again it will be the manager's head to fall once we are in trouble and we'll end up with Duncan Ferguson as manager by Christmas.

Will we soon see the FAB in another carefully planned interview with Moshiri where he promises to fix important issues at the club as we move into the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock (and the Championship?).

I hated that last interview where he promised us a striker because it was so false. Any proper interview would and should have been met with questions like “Why the fuck don't you sack Bill Kenwright?” or “Why have you allowed Bill Kenwright to rob you and Everton supporters?”

These pricks won't give us a response so we need to take some action to get one.

Danny. You are not far from Little Venice. Can't you go and throw some old haggled eggs at his door?

Finn Taylor
938 Posted 22/06/2023 at 13:21:05
Mark @933.

Mini-milk? We should be so lucky. You'll get a used lolly stick and be told to make that last!

Clive Rogers
939 Posted 22/06/2023 at 13:21:45
Colin @992 & Darryl @923,

I am beginning to believe that Kenwright definitely has Moshiri stitched up with a contract saying he has to remain chairman. Look how quickly Moshiri has sacked all the managers.

Mark Ryan
940 Posted 22/06/2023 at 13:30:49
Finn, not even an Ice Pop? Ha, ha!
Jim Lloyd
941 Posted 22/06/2023 at 13:59:06
Eric :)

The lad in work was a stagehand (well a general shifter!) and built like a brick er...latrine! A great lad and I think if he'd have got hold of the world's greatest Evertonian, he's have throttled him...from the feet up!

ps "saved the Playhouse...my arse" seems a very appropriate phrase!

Jay Harris
942 Posted 22/06/2023 at 14:12:32
I see Begovic has declared that the management of the club is abysmal.

Apparently he said that he was very excited to join Everton which he believed was a top club until he got inside the club and saw how it was being managed by those upstairs.

Nothing we don't already know but it is unusual for the players to break ranks and shows how the players feel about the leadership or lack of it.

Jim Lloyd
943 Posted 22/06/2023 at 14:15:12
Pete, I understand and agree with your frustration, anger, despair and the feling of helpnessless. we're up here and their down there!

I don't see how we can do anything without a CEO and Cashier/Accountant. seem to me, until Moshiri resolves the situation, especially with Kenwright, we're up shit creek without a paddle.

Jay, yep, he confirms our suspicions and how bad must it be for a member of the playing staff telling the world what it's like. I wish he'd have stayed. I think he's a decent goalie.

Paul Kossoff
944 Posted 22/06/2023 at 14:30:24
Time to roll the next scripted bullshit in. How long has it been since the big change at Everton? Ten days. All we have had is some shite about a take over by MSP which is actually a high-Interest loan which won't even put a dent in our debts.

Nothing since. What was that game a while ago? Where is Waldo, well we have our new version now, where is Bullshit Bill. What have we had from the club recently? Fuck-all! Getting sick of the silence now.

John McFarlane Snr
945 Posted 22/06/2023 at 14:36:00
Hi David, [927] I think that you have "Dialed the wrong number", my sporting interest in the 1940s was [and still is] football in general and Everton in particular. However, I was familiar with the names of Don Bradman, Denis Compton, and Len Hutton.

I also recall when gentlemen and players entered the playing field from different gates. This fixture was discontinued in 1962, because the difference between amateurs and professionals was abolished.

Regarding the possibility of this thread rising to 1,000 postings, this is highly likely to occur, it appears that the same people are saying the same things. I have my own views of the mess the club is in, but as they have all been dealt with, I'll give them a miss.

Stan Grace
946 Posted 22/06/2023 at 14:40:25
Just to push this thread to the magic 1,000 can I make a suggestion to this?

"Me and Andy Crooks meeting for the first time & travelling together to Goodison. There's a sitcom in there somewhere!"

Called 'Brendandy Blues'?

I'll get my sports bra.

Tony Abrahams
947 Posted 22/06/2023 at 15:05:35
The offer still stands for that ticket, Brendan, so just let me know if you're thinking of coming, mate

There's no way this thread would have got anywhere near a thousand posts if the delay in delaying the inevitable hadn't took so long. It's not over yet? I know

Alex Gray
948 Posted 22/06/2023 at 15:05:44
It's actually going to hit the 1,000 mark isn't it?

I'm utterly amazed there's been no reporting about this whole situation.

Eddie Dunn
949 Posted 22/06/2023 at 15:13:33
Jay,

I read today that Onana has changed his mind and now wants away... Do the players know something we don't?

Paul Hewitt
950 Posted 22/06/2023 at 15:17:53
See Begovic said he couldn't believe how badly the club was run at board level.
Barry Hesketh
951 Posted 22/06/2023 at 15:34:43
I've just read that the players return to training on 6 July, a fortnight today. If things aren't a great deal clearer by then, we're in for a troubling summer and difficult season ahead.

It's hardly going to be a bowl of cherries whatever transpires and whenever it's announced.

Paul Kossoff
952 Posted 22/06/2023 at 15:44:04
Mark,

True, but when these bunch of incompetent twats have finally buried this club, who will be left to resurrect it?

We, the true supporters. Even if we get thrown out to the non-leagues, I'll still be an Evertonian.

Mark Ryan
953 Posted 22/06/2023 at 15:47:41
I'm just so hacked off, Paul.
David Peate
954 Posted 22/06/2023 at 16:49:05
John Mc Snr (944),

Yes, and there were ‘gentlemen' in football in those days too. I am reminded of Peter Kippax who came to Liverpool from Burnley (I think). He was an unpaid amateur. I believe that there were others as well.

Jim Lloyd
955 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:09:28
I'm no use at organising anything; but if there was a march of supporters up to the Holy Trinity statue, then I'd be up for that. I know that Kenwright is in London (I think!) and Moshiri, well probably out of the country, but this situation is not likely to do Everton Football Club any good at all.

I've no doubt there's lots of good people working for the club in the offices at Goodison Park and the Liver Building and they have all done and are doing a great job in unsettling circumstances for themselves.

I just don't see anything happening that is good for this club. There is no communication and I don't see how our club can function without a board. I certainly don't think the remnants of the Board, ie Kenwright, gives a tinkers toss about the supporters. Whaty does he call himself Chairman Bill? Well, that's not the name I give him.

Rob Halligan
956 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:11:48
According to the red echo, it sounds like this saga with MSP could finally be coming to a positive conclusion, with two of their members being offered seats on the board, and Kenwright finally getting the boot…………

MSP Sports Capital focus on Everton deal as major investment sees big changes

I've also heard that Andy Bell and George Downing will be stumping up money to complete the stadium, as well as a few quid towards transfers, and possibly additional board members.

Dave Abrahams
957 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:23:49
David (952), Peter Kippax is one of my earlier memories about football although I never saw him, he played in the 1946 FA cup final for Burnley c Charlton, he had appeared in the semi final v Liverpool and that most probably was the reason they signed although they had Billy Liddell in his position so I doubt he played many games for them.

George Rob was another famous amateur football who represent Great Britain many times, he played for Spurs for many years before signing professional forms, he played in the England team versus Hungary at Wembley in 1953, although I think he was a professional by then.

I think the reason they were amateurs was that they came from ‘well-heeled' families!

Colin Glassar
958 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:33:36
Here’s hoping and praying, Rob.
Dale Self
959 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:40:18
Well in Rob, thanks for that!
Bill Gall
960 Posted 22/06/2023 at 17:55:42
The number of players leaving and none coming in… it is going to be difficult in getting two 5-a-side teams in training sessions.

I don't think the negotiating team on player transactions look at the start of the transfer window opening, they look at what time it ends.

Jim Lloyd
961 Posted 22/06/2023 at 18:06:15
Well, that's great news Rob. I think I can forget about a march up to Goodison (hopefully!). I hope it's true and that Kenwright is finally getting the noble order of the boot.

Even better news with successful Evertonians getting involved. I read in the Echo that the 3 musketeers resigned from the Board last week... it seems like last month!

Ian Pilkington
962 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:10:24
I was reading the MSP report on the Echo website 20 minutes ago… just looked again to check if there was an update and it has vanished!

Has the Echo been warned off?

Jay Harris
963 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:18:39
Just looked at it again, Ian. It's still there although I wouldn't put anything past the smoke and mirrors man.
Ian Pilkington
964 Posted 22/06/2023 at 19:44:07
Jay, yes it’s back on, but it was definitely missing, clearly a blip…panic over.
Colin Glassar
965 Posted 22/06/2023 at 20:05:02
Just read the Echo piece. I hope these MSP are legit but I did see Saudi and Bahrain mentioned alongside Maclaren and F1. Does that mean we will be part of some weird consortium?
Soren Moyer
966 Posted 22/06/2023 at 20:17:10
According to a few news outlets, he is holding out for a £7M pay off! When that's sorted, he will piss off.
John Chambers
967 Posted 22/06/2023 at 20:26:45
Colin #965. Perhaps we could have a fleet of McLarens to take us all to the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock!
Marc Hints
968 Posted 22/06/2023 at 20:35:56
Looks like Kenwright is staying as chairman according to the Telegraph and various on Twitter.
John Kavanagh
969 Posted 22/06/2023 at 21:37:34
Marc,

The news I've been dreading ever since the 48 hours announcement. It was clear to some of us that Chairman Bill was throwing the three stooges under the proverbial bus in order to get three even more pliable replacements in place before launching the new improved Chairman Bill before August.

With Chairman Bill still in charge we will end up with £100k+ a week replacements who can't even stand up let alone kick a ball. If this is true Levy and every other club chairman will be laughing their heads off and they won't be needing any nitrous oxide.

Marc Hints
970 Posted 22/06/2023 at 21:42:39
John,

I know I'm still scrolling through Twitter hoping there is no truth in it, but as you say the 48 hours passed with no answer to future of Kenwright so we can only assume he is fighting for his role or as Twitter is saying Moshiri wants him to stay.

MSP collapse will be next, oh the joy of being an Everton fan hey.

Bobby Mallon
971 Posted 22/06/2023 at 22:03:09
If Kenwright is staying, then the fans should make it unbearable for him to come to Goodison Park.
Paul Birmingham
972 Posted 22/06/2023 at 22:21:56
Let's hope so Rob.

It can't arrive soon, enough, every day in limbo, is dragging the preseason preparations back.

Well, if that day is soon, Evertonians will be able to celebrate hopefully a new dawn.

We've been here too long to know all matters Everton have generally never been clear and easy but to run the club with a proper Chairman and board will be a start.

Hopefully Colin, it will be a “clean-cut” takeover...

Definitely something to cheer.

Jim Lloyd
973 Posted 22/06/2023 at 22:22:30
What it might mean (if this all comes off!) is we might get some decent sponsorships, eg McLaren.
Paul Birmingham
974 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:10:09

Lets hope so, Jim.
Laurie Hartley
975 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:13:35
I hope you are right, Rob H because “A house divided against itself cannot stand”. Everton Football Club desperately needs a new board made up of a combination of business savvy, and football savvy people.

Hopefully, messrs Thelwell and Dyche have a plan of what they wish to achieve in the upcoming transfer window. Regardless of how good that plan might be, it will be meaningless unless there is someone in authority to run the rule over it and rubber stamp the expenditure.

Time for appointing a new board and chairman is dwindling. Time is now of the essence.

Ian Pilkington
976 Posted 22/06/2023 at 23:54:16
The Telegraph report by Merseyside Football Correspondent Chris Bascombe - rarely a reliable source and a confirmed
Red - is largely about Tom Davies and the exodus of players.

He suggests that Moshiri wants to retain
Kenwright in some capacity but I cannot believe that MSP will agree.

The Echo actually reporting that the MSP deal is nearing conclusion with Kenwright’s departure imminent is far more believable.

Pete Clarke
977 Posted 23/06/2023 at 02:22:36
I’m not sure who the priests are nowadays at St Anthony’s but I know in the old days they were mostly Everton supporters. Some would only baptize kids if they were blue !
Anyway, can we not ask if any of them would like to carry out an Exorcism at Goodison to finally rid us of the evil that’s been haunting and terrorizing us for donkeys years ?
Bob Parrington
978 Posted 23/06/2023 at 04:13:20
We're so close to the finishing line, gays and gals.

Yeah Rob H, I read that about MSP being close but hasn't this been reported in the Echo.. Echo.. Echo several times in the past months.

Just trying to not get my hopes up too much! and, of course, helping to reach the 1,000.

Colin Glassar
979 Posted 23/06/2023 at 06:18:29
Kenwright Out!!!

That's me, not some official announcement.

Martin Farrington
980 Posted 23/06/2023 at 07:13:59
Of course The Two Idiots and MSP could all be on their holidays, caring not a jot about panicking Evertonians.
Tony Abrahams
981 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:08:55
And I knew if I had my chance
that I could make those people dance
and maybe they’d be happy for a while!
Come on Kenwright drive your Chevy to the Liver building and resign🙏

Seriously though this is the man who got his picture out the canal, and put it back on his iconic timeline - THE TIMELINE THAT MAN FORGOT - except for the deluded bastard who must have thought he was talking to the fans of another club - when he uttered his embarrassing epitaph.

Sam Hoare
982 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:10:54
The Esk reporting this morning that MSP have successfully raised £160m. If true (he rarely gets things wrongs) this is great news and means they should be in a position to put members on the board and complete next stage of stadium financing.

Lots to be worked out still (Will Kenwright leave or be kept to ‘help transition’?!) but a step forwards to some clarity and a (hopefully) better run Everton in the near future.

Stephen Davies
983 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:15:56
MSP in for $165m..
https://twitter.com/theesk/status/1672129905700532227?t=T_0wZSKr4gtRQ8SlCNidYg&s=19
Marc Hints
984 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:19:08
BREAKING NEWS MSP have raised $165 million for MSP Everton Investors
https://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1981541/000156761923006380/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml
Stephen Davies
985 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:27:17
13 investors involved in the Partnership
Laurie Hartley
986 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:30:06
That 165m is US Dollars according to Marc's link - is 130m sterling. Still - better than a poke in the eye with a blunt stick.
Kim Vivian
987 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:31:05
Well that looks pretty damn definitive.

Held breath - exhaling slowly now.

Mike Hayes
988 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:32:25
Good news on MSP let’s hope it’s a new board and new start getting rid of the cancer at the club! According to the count it’s 940 posts but reading the posts we are at 985 🤷
Jim Lloyd
989 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:49:16
Where do you get the info, Stephen? Is it just on twitter or did you find this out from another news outlet
Jim Lloyd
990 Posted 23/06/2023 at 08:55:50
Paul (974)Well, they invest in McClaren (I think!) and are in with some Sheik or other, so who knows. If not, I wonder if Hafnia are still going :)
Alex Gray
991 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:01:12
Msp (or msp efc investors lp as theyre called on the paperwork) have uploaded the paperwork on the us government website. $165mil or £130mil is the figure and looks to be happening soon.

Reported by the esk and he has a link to the documents.

Alex Gray
992 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:01:50
Oops bit late to the party! Got a bit too excited there!
Marc Hints
993 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:06:55
Stephen is correct 13 investors are invloved
Greg Nelli
994 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:15:22
In before "Where's the MSP money?"'

Am I doing it right?

Finn Taylor
995 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:25:04
£130 million? Not even going to touch the sides that.
Marc Hints
996 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:29:26
Don't get to excited although it is a step in the right direction

It's not a complete solution though. Estimated £220m of further funding required to complete stadium; this investment won't alter our P&S issues nor significantly alter our transfer business

Barry Hesketh
997 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:38:28
The Premier League club has been in exclusive talks with MSP Capital over plans to take a stake in the Blues, which would see owner Farhad Moshiri dilute his 94% stake, but still retain overall control.

The vehicle, MSP EFC Investors, involves 13 partners, although MSP is expected to manage the investment on their behalf, it has been reported.

The cash will be invested in the club, towards the build of its new stadium, and also transfer funds ahead of the new 2023-24 Premier League season.

News of the investment could also herald movement on the boardroom reshuffle at Everton.

Investor raises £130m in bid to take a stake in Everton FC

Any investment should be welcomed no matter how small it might appear, if these guys are as serious and professional as Mike Gaynes seems to believe they are, it is a small step in the right direction, not a magic bullet that will solve the club's issues overnight.

It might be painful in the short-term for us as fans, but surely we couldn't limp on from one crisis to another without changing something, and having fresh faces in the boardroom is something to welcome, they may even prove to be better at managing what is a difficult club in difficult times. We'll find out in the fullness of time of course, but there's little point in moaning about what we could have won, be thankful that we managed to survive in the top league, and that we are just attractive enough to gain inward investment.


Jim Lloyd
998 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:41:05
MSP EFC Investors, LP Notice of Exempt Offering (Form D)

United States Securities and Exchanger Commission.

The web page goes on to say the two major Managers are Mr Moorad and Mr Najafi. and a whole load of other legal stuff!
Anyway, its dated 21st of June (summer Solstice so a (hopeful sign!)
It's on the internet under the heading MSP EFC investors.

Laurie Hartley
999 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:41:06
Well I suppose those 13 investors reckon we are worth a punt.
Finn Taylor
1000 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:44:30
13 Investors... it feels like that episode of Only Fools and Horses 'The Chain Gang' del (moshiri) running round like a headless chicken to get a consortium together for a load of diamonds...
Stan Grace
1001 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:46:58
Congratulations Finn! Does he get a prize, moderators?
Jim Lloyd
1002 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:47:00
Barry, I agree,if this comes off, we might well be on the first step up the ladder to becoming a decent well run football club again. Whatever the Investigation comes up with, we'll just have to take in our stride. But it looks our stadium will be completed, we will have a new set of Board members and hopefully sharehiolders meetings again, and hopefully we'll be getting rid of that Chairman who has overseen the near demise of a great club!
Marc Hints
1003 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:48:36
Well Said Barry
Brent Stephens
1004 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:52:57
Finn #1000 I'm thinking more of the chandelier episode of Only Fools and Horses - the man loosening the final bolt at the moment is our Bill.
Alex Gray
1005 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:56:03
Considering the state we're in any sign of progress is welcomed. Even if that is someone on the board who's prepared to take a bit of accountability.

In all honesty if we got a bit of communication letting us know we're in for a bumpy ride but there's a plan in place I can take that. Whatever happens moving forwards we just need to ensure that lessons are starting to be learned.

We managed under Moyes with little to no money so it is possible to get out of this mess and reach stability but that starts from the top.

Finn Taylor
1006 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:58:08
Stan @ 1001 - a ToffeeWeb mug and pin badge would be great. :)

Brent @ 1004 continuing the Fools and Horses theme... is Bill = Slater?

Danny O’Neill
1007 Posted 23/06/2023 at 09:58:56
Tony, a person who once told supporters to their face they had betrayed the club.

The times are changing.

Good or bad. Certain or uncertain. Better or worse?

It doesn't matter. We need change.

It won't happen overnight. I don't think anyone expects that. But we need a change of strategy and direction.

Shane Corcoran
1008 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:01:33
Moshiri has convinced him to stay. Just how he’d write it
Jim Lloyd
1009 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:03:05
Well said Alex. Wherever we have to start from, if we get a decent Board, who know what they're doing, have faith in the Club's shareholders and supporters, it'll be a good start. I look at Wrexham and what a decent boardroom have done for them.
Joe Corgan
1010 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:03:08
Bill Stays. Chong is interim CEO.

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/3550045/club-statement

Pete Clarke
1011 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:03:32
Typical Everton. Why did it have to be 13 investors and not 12 or 14 ?

Finn Taylor
1012 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:03:53
I was thinking before... at what point did I feel cynical about the workings of the club... you know, when I thought, oh god, that's amateurish!

The thing that jumped out at me, was in 1996, when Newcastle signed Shearer and it came out that we had put a bid in for him as well. Which at the time, felt totally cynical. No way could we afford him - we weren't at the top table anymore. And so why did someone at the club feel the need to say we had bid for him? Never understood that. Of course, maybe we did bid, but as we failed to sign him, why mention it?

David Peate
1013 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:04:30
With Compo, Cleggy and Foggy gone, this only leaves Billy and he is still hiding in the greenwood.
Bill Fairfield
1014 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:05:31
Moshiri completely ga ga. Chairman Bill to carry on making us the biggest joke in the Premier League.
Finn Taylor
1015 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:06:50
Have just read the statement on the club site... oh well... can't say am suprised...

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose!

Jim Lloyd
1016 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:08:49
Well, that's put the cat among the pigeons! Is he going to be an absent Chairman because of all the nasty supporters out to get him?
Joe McMahon
1017 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:09:53
Soren, the update was there is no update. Just sick of it. Decades of an embarrassing shambles if a club, and still they clapped him!

Not one trophy under his watch (of many years), means that Everton are irrelevant.

Alan McGuffog
1018 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:11:53
Hurrah hurrah yet more good times on the horizon.
Alan McGuffog
1019 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:11:53
Hurrah hurrah yet more good times on the horizon.
Finn Taylor
1020 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:16:06
I wonder what's happened to the mooted Andy Bell and George Downing joining the board???
Marc Hints
1021 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:18:38
Statement from Everton:

Kenwright will stay as Chairman
Colin Chong will be interim CEO
James Maryniak will be chief Finance Officer
John Spellman / Farhad will be non exec Directors

Brent Stephens
1022 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:20:49
Finn, note Chong is interim.
Finn Taylor
1023 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:22:35
Brent - yes, I did notice that. Jam tomorrow it is!
Kim Vivian
1024 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:24:02
Fucks sake - if Kenwright remains, the place will be freaking toxic won't it? Can't these people see that? Or don't they give a toss?

And £130m - that's about one Mbappe isn't it?

Kunal Desai
1025 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:25:56
Really poor this. Doesn't bode well at all for the coming season. Upheavel will continue and the protests must now ramp up more than ever. This cannot be accepted by our fanbase
Nick Page
1026 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:26:23
Protests.

Now.

This fucking cancerous bastard just won’t go until he’s finished us off.

Andrew Ellams
1027 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:27:30
Goodnight Vienna
Pete Clarke
1028 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:28:44
Just when you can’t hate anybody worse than BK then our owner takes the mantle.
What an absolute tool of a man Moshiri is.
Did I call him a man then ? Fkin weak lucky millionaire bastard.

BK is beating us boys. What’s the next move ?

Paul Smith
1029 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:31:02
Thank fuck I’m in a field at Glastonbury. Dyche is here as well probably escaping the news.
Simon Ditchfield
1030 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:37:29
However unpalatable this news is is, and its no surprise. There needs to be someone with knowledge of where the Skeletons are.
Kevin Naylor
1031 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:37:45
Classic 'well theres some good news and some awful news'.
Dave Abrahams
1032 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:37:54
I hope this interim phase is very short and sees the end of Kenwright, it’s very hard to see him still here, I don’t want to imagine what the club and team will be like next season if he is still at the club,surely he will gone, can’t describe how depressing this news is.
Joe McMahon
1033 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:38:29
I'm done here, so in a nut shell Kenwright stays until he dies. How weak is Moshiri, there are no words!
Brian Williams
1034 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:42:32
Reading between the lines all those positions are "temporary." I think once MSP are officially onboard things will change. Here's hoping that at least having "somebody" in the seats will allow us to buy some players, and that MIGHT have been why the decisions that have been made were taken.

Certainly not got the news we wanted.............yet!

Pete Clarke
1035 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:44:44
Have MSP not done their due diligence as to why BK has not had any success WHATSOEVER at Everton in his time with us ? Have they not looked at the number of managers and board members we have had ? Worse still, have they not thought just for one second that their investment could be shrouded in a toxic atmosphere and there’s a reason fat face has not sat in the directors box for months ?

We are beyond a joke and the pain of being an Evertonian is almost too much.

Why should I be wishing ill health on BK just because some tosser can’t make a simple a long overdue decision to sack the prick ?
Finn Taylor
1036 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:45:16
It has occurred to me that these positions may have been filled for legal/business reasons, for now?

Does anyone/can anyone shed any light on this?

Ian Bennett
1037 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:49:06
ha typical Everton - get rid of a board and end up in a worse position. This is Everton in a nutshell over the last 25 years, with Bill Kenwright involved in all of it.

What next - Everton are pleased to announce the signings of Tom Davies & Cenk Tosun?

Perhaps Brett Angell as fan liaison officer? Ken Dodd as finance director? Stevie Wonder as Chief Scout?

What an absolute shit show.

Mike Doyle
1038 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:51:27
Paul #1029] Apparently Sean Dyche is also at Glastonbury this weekend. If you spot him in the queue for the 1 toilet on site can you try and get a comment from him?
Ian Hollingworth
1039 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:52:18
Why are we surprised
The man is so deluded he thinks that throwing the other three under the bus would be enough for us fools.
The club remains as-is under his useless leadership
He simply has to go, they cannot be allowed to get away with this.
Clive Rogers
1040 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:53:52
Dave, 1032, the statement says “ I wanted Bill to remain as our Chairman during this important period of transition for the Club”. I take that to mean he’s there until after the new ground move or longer. He’s got Moshiri over a barrel somehow.
Tony Everan
1041 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:57:13
A nuclear Armageddon, a direct hit by a monster asteroid, the sun expanding into it’s red giant phase, all at the same time. It would make no difference, William Kenwright would still somehow remain as chairman of EFC.

Why won’t he let the club move on from it’s darkest period under his chairmanship? I despair.

Phil Sammon
1042 Posted 23/06/2023 at 10:59:59
Moshiri is like Sideshow Bob stepping on rakes. Genuinely can’t believe this one. Getting rid of BK would relieve so much vitriol around the club. Why would he not just do it?
Peter Hodgson
1043 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:00:58
The Echo is reporting that; Bill Kenwright is to remain chairman of Everton FC as the club continues to progress through a period of transition.

Majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri will join the board as a non-executive director as part of a raft of changes that follow the departure of three directors last week.

Colin Chong, who is currently overseeing the development of the club’s new waterfront stadium, will also join the board alongside current director of finance James Maryniak and John Spellman, a chartered accountant and Everton supporter.

On Kenwright remaining chairman, Moshiri said: “I wanted Bill to remain as our chairman during this important period of transition for the club and I am delighted that he has accepted my request to do so. Bill’s knowledge and vast experience will be crucial for us as we look to reset, deliver on external investment and position Everton for a successful future.”

The changes follow the departures from the board of chief executive Denise Barrett-Baxendale, finance officer Grant Ingles and non-executive director Graeme Sharp. Those exits sparked a whirl of speculation as they set in motion of summer of vast change at Everton as investment talks continue with US group MSP Sports Capital in a deal designed to support the completion of the new stadium.

On Friday morning Everton announced the latest step in what it has described as a period of transition at the top of the club.

Chong, currently the chief stadium development officer, has been appointed as interim chief executive and as a director. Maryniak will take charge of all finance matters as interim chief finance officer. Moshiri and Spellman, described by the club as a “successful businessman”, will join the board as non-executive directors.

Moshiri said: “In John, we have an experienced finance professional who has held chief executive and senior finance roles for international firms and I welcome him to the club. In Colin and James, we have two experienced senior club professionals who have agreed to take on enhanced roles on an interim basis, and who we know can and will deliver immediately.”

Somebody tell me that this is a joke, please!

Larry O'Hara
1044 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:01:55
Read the club statement: just awful. Moshiri hasnt got a clue. When will this farce end?
Daniel A Johnson
1045 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:03:53
I honestly think fat bloaty face is there in name only. He's nothing but a blagger now and hopefully his influence will be minimal.
Alex Gray
1046 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:13:42
So our glorious leader not only keeps Kenwright but his answer is to put himself on the board.

We’re an utter joke.

Ian Pilkington
1047 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:15:05
I am apoplectic with rage.
Jack Convery
1048 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:16:03
Jack Convery
1049 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:16:03
Posted this on another thread but better here.

Mirror reporting and quoting Moshiri per Kenwright staying on ( for now ? ).
48 hours becomes 48 weeks / months / years / decades !!

That's it ENOUGH IS ENOUGH with this basket case of a so called Premier League Football Club. If Phoenix Nights had a football XI, Potter and Rayvon would have run it better. Sod off Kenwright and Moshiri. Just how much can you two idiots ( toned down believe me ), put the fans through. Just go and go now PLEASE !!!

If I was Dyche, when Glastonbury ends, I would ask to clean up the mess left behind as it will be a lot easier than what he faces on his return to Grinch Farm.

So, so disgusted with this news. It's totally pathetic and unfortunately par for the course these dark, dark days.

Kenwright / Moshiri OUT !!

Barry Hesketh
1051 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:21:58
For the sake of my own sanity, I have to believe that the make-up of this new board is very short-term and that it won't last beyond the start of the season, however, MSP - if they are interested in more than a minor stake in the club - may believe that there are too many potholes in the road for them to become too involved too soon and that those that got us into such a perilous position will have to remain in place to be the public face for any possible sanctions that may be coming the club's way.

If Moshiri's new board thinks it can ride out the storm and remain in place until the new stadium is completed, they might find that many fans will not be willing to support such a situation and this will add to the discontent, rather than quelling it.

Going for a lie-down now, as it doesn't surprise me that Chairman Bill has somehow managed to cling onto his mates train-set.

Lynn Maher
1052 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:22:43
On official Everton website. He is staying'!!!!!!!!!!!! Really hoped it was a misprint.
Dave Abrahams
1053 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:26:23
Clive 1040), Clive I didn’t like the word ‘ reset’ in that statement but I’m hoping that Kenwright is only here until MSP SportsCapital join the club, every second he is still here spoils what enjoyment there is in being an Evertonian.
Jack Convery
1054 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:28:11
I also note the BBC in their report still repeating the death threats investigated by police nonsense. How about the FACT, the Police reported that they had received no reports, about death threats to EFC board members.

Ray Jacques
1055 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:28:16
If we could go back 65 million years to when the meteorite hit in the Gulf of Mexico and wiped out the dinosaurs only the Fatbillousaurus would survive the apocalypse.

I despair, the owner is a clown. People must have something very dodgy on him that they threaten to leak.

Anthony A Hughes
1056 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:30:27
This is like something out of the X-Files. Smoke, mirrors, lies, misconceptions, shady characters in the background,

Kenwright will be revealed to be some sort of Alien Overlord here to take over the world only he fucked up and stopped at Everton.

The Truth is Out There.

Brian Williams
1057 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:32:14
Dave#1053.
Dave, strange you say that about the word "reset" as that actually gave me some hope.
Generally a reset constitutes big changes, both in how things are done, personnel, and direction.

Mind you, this is Everton!

Alex Gray
1058 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:33:33
So what’s the plan now?
Nicholas Ryan
1059 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:35:55
Look at the 'Club Announcement' on the official website. Think it couldn't get worse? It just did.
Kevin Naylor
1060 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:36:35
Apparently took 13 partners to get £130m together, a cup of tea in this age of multi-billionaire owned football clubs.
Eddie Dunn
1061 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:38:03
Absolutely gutted to read the news on the BBC webpage.

It illustrates that the idiot Moshiri has not a jot

of sense and that Kenwright is desperate to hang on to his trainset.

Hopefully it will be a temporary measure but Moshiri joining the board brings nothing to the table.

So the three other board members have been sacrificed and these two clowns think that they can plod on despite all of the awful mess that they have overseen.

How can we recruit any player worth his salt. Unless there is rapid movement from new investors and new board members jump in very soon, we are dead in the water.

Jack Convery
1062 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:38:49
I reckon Lyndon is sitting in front of his keyboard, with jaw dropped, unable to type anything due to the chaos of emotions going through his mind right now. However when it comes it will be worth it.
Rick Tarleton
1063 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:39:32
This morning's announcement is incredible.

Does Kenwright actually know what a laughing stock he is?

Does he know how despised he is amongst the fan base?

Does he realise what harm he is doing to the club he professes to love?

He doesn't care a jot, so long as he can be the Chairman.
Unbelievable.

Pete Clarke
1064 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:41:22
There's a very very dark reason for him being kept on. One that needs to be investigated. Moshiri is terrified and bluffing once again to cover his ever-increasing weaknesses.

If we accept this, even in short form, we will, just like David Moyes, have accepted Bill's way of mediocrity and he wins the war.

We wait for what seemed like an everlasting 48 hours for some great news and then we get horrible news. Moshiri is Bill's puppet.

I'm raging inside and hope deep down that some of you fans back there can get it across to the media, the new investors and soft arse Moshiri, how disgusted and betrayed you all feel by this decision to leave this cancerous person at the club in any form.

Where is the statement from our new investors, by the way?
Anthony Flack
1065 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:45:17
Kenwright knows he is despised etc.

I reckon he's deluding himself that he is rising above the noisy rabble and doing what is best for Everton.

Only of course he is doing the opposite and not helping Everton at all.

Truly bad news.

Alex Gray
1066 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:45:49
On the plus side, and its very hard for me to say that right now, the focus better be for the fat cranks to bring some players in and fast.

If we don’t improve the squad I won’t be going the match.

Paul Hewitt
1067 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:46:25
Relax Bill won't be here come start of the season.
Ernie Baywood
1068 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:48:17
It's absolutely time for protest now.

The new leadership is just the same lot. A couple of promotions, Moshiri himself and Bill's knowledge and vast experience remains.

What is this guy doing?

It was incredible that we stayed up last season given we looked every bit a relegation club. Now we're going to start the season with 'sack the board' as our motto.

Brendan McLaughlin
1069 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:48:33
Bungalow Bill gets an extension...who'd a thunk it?
Kim Vivian
1070 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:51:55
Has anyone on here got an ear to the ground with the new BBC Verified outfit so they can verify or otherwise the death threat allegations they are reporting.
Tom Bowers
1071 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:53:39
Moshiri refers to the transition period. What the hell is he talking about. We have been in it for 20 years.

It's time to get rid of all of them and get new ownership like Newcastle did with Ashley.

Get ready for another season like we have been getting.

Ernie Baywood
1072 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:54:03
Paul, the release didn't say he's been asked to stay on as an interim chair... It says he's been asked to stay on.

The mention of transition is presumably the transition referenced previously... New stadium, external investment.

Will Mabon
1073 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:54:17
Holy Jumping Jack shee-it! Yet also unsurprising.

The Coronation Street of football.

Raymond Fox
1074 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:55:20
Kenwright staying as chairman!

I find that amazing, what does Moshiri think will happen now!
If it's very short term, and he will leave when the season gets started it might make some sense, but long term that's asking for trouble.

Paul Tran
1075 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:55:55
Narcissist populists always hate and disparage their people, despite what they say in public.

You can hear Kenwright's voice dictating that official statement, can't you?

The plot gets ever thicker and more interesting.

Wonder who's leaking this stuff to the Guardian? They'll be falling out of a window soon, I'm sure!

Barry Hesketh
1076 Posted 23/06/2023 at 11:58:15
Whilst searching for the last time that Bill was kept on in order to ease the transition of the club in 2016, I found this:

Everton can benefit from Farhad Moshiri's business savvy
2 Mar 2016 Liverpool Echo
By Bill Gleeson

“My guess is a new stadium has moved from being a very unlikely prospect to very likely," Tom Cannon

Farhad Moshiri, the Iranian who this week became Everton's biggest shareholder, brings a wealth of top-level international business experience to Goodison Park. It's the sort of business savvy that could help improve the on-and-off field fortunes of the club.

It hasn't worn very well has it?

Gary Brown
1077 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:00:39
Paul Tran - no idea what Kenwright has to do with populism, what populism has to do with narcissism, and what your any of that political bollocks has to do with football. Give your head a wobble you obsessive. #SackTheBoardEspeciallyBill
Paul Hughes
1078 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:02:13
What a shambles. I can just about see that Moshiri wants someone who knows the club to hold his hand, pending the MSP negotiations. But he needs to define the "transition period" and make sure that Kenwright is in an advisory capacity only.
I'm not hopeful that Moshiri will do so, though
Kevin Molloy
1079 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:02:42
we are going to have to suck it up. We can't do a 'hicks and Gillette' and go to war, he's building a billion pound stadium on the river. that's the positive, plus the fact we are still in the top league (unbelievably). We are in the hands of a complete idiot. But what do you do, we can just hope he builds his stadium and then clears off. But we haven't got many cards to play, we've got to stay up for one more year, and got to get the stadium built.
Barry Hesketh
1080 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:06:01
Dyche in the middle of a field in Glastonbury, has just seen the news on his phone, he believes he has two choices, go after his vendor for issuing him bad meds, or goes looking for a new vendor in order to get stronger ones.
Alex Gray
1081 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:13:41
Speaking emotionally but whilst the stadium is obviously vital for us we need a football team. The thought of seeing Maupay upfront with Dom injured and Kenwright in charge is utterly depressing.
Kevin Naylor
1082 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:13:47
This thread going to be the first 2000+ one.
Chris Leyland
1083 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:16:12
Kim 1073 - I’ve submitted a complaint to the BBC about their article asking them whether they had Merseyside police for an update before publishing. I also asked why they hadn’t printed for balance that the police had stated that no offences had been reported to them and why the article doesn’t further state that no one had been arrested, no charges had been made against any individual and Everton had provided no evidence whatsoever to substantiate their claims.
Bill Watson
1084 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:16:37
I give up.
I've called the men in white coats to take me away!
Tony Everan
1085 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:23:10
This is a massive problem that Moshiri has created for himself. The club will be at odds with the vast majority of its fans with this decision.

We needed unity above all else. Now at the first signs of frustration there is going to be all hell let loose. I don’t understand why Moshiri is courting this inevitable maelstrom of vehement protest.

Has he not got the foresight of what this decision is going to do to the club? It’s going to tear the club apart and cause huge disruption and distress to all the playing and backroom staff.

Results will suffer and the club will be plunged into yet another existential relegation fight.

Just one question, why?

Mick O'Malley
1086 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:23:39
Season after season of absolute mediocrity and things are going to stay the same, honestly this is taking the piss, surely Kenwright can’t still be in situ when the new season kicks off, depressing news if he is, Kenwright OUT
Mike Hayes
1087 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:24:26
That cancer is like an unflushable turd at your new girfriends parents house - looks like it’ll be leaving feet first - fingers crossed it never turns up at Goodison or BMD fucking leach 😡😡😡😡
Barry Hesketh
1088 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:25:54
Moshiri confirmed he wants Kenwright to stay in his role during a period of transition as Everton brace for MSP Sports Capital to invest in the club. And former Crystal Palace chairman Jordan reckons that Kenwright, who has served on the Goodison board since 1989, will depart in the near future.

Speaking on talkSPORT, he said: “I have mixed emotions about the whole thing. If the board are going to go and the people below Bill are going to go - they're in as a team, they should go out as a team.

I don't believe the reaction Bill has gotten over the years has been fair and just. There are different caveats to it and people tell different versions of different events about different decisions at different times Bill has made that may have hampered the opportunity Everton have got.

“They are fourth from bottom, Bill was the chairman and that board of directors are culpable for some of the decisions that were made. I do maintain the view that Moshiri is the ultimate decision-maker and if anyone has got any ire then it should be at him if ire is the emotion people are feeling.

“If I was Bill, I wouldn't want to be there anymore. I would think I've done my very best, if it's not what you're happy with then it's time for me to step away. Clearly, Bill feels something different.

I don't think he will be there long. I don't think he will last long and Bill will be chairman of the football club for a variety of reasons. He's getting older, he has some challenges with health and who needs this? If people believe because he's got an opinion on what happens at Everton and that his opinion stops Moshiri from making the decisions then I just think they're deluded. If they want to be angry, if that's what they think they're entitled to be, it should be at the owner.

“Not that I want to see anyone getting abused, having been an owner and don’t think it's necessarily in the best interest of anybody hounding people out of football clubs - especially the guys writing the cheques.”

The truth is that both Bill and Moshiri have always worked in tandem, throughout Moshiri's tenure, and the fact that the owner will become a member of the board, puts him firmly in public view, which is one of the reasons that I hold out hope that this transition period will be very short-term.

Danny O’Neill
1089 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:28:53
The blind leading the blind.

Unbelievable.

I only hope this is temporary.

No way back. Are they purposely trying to antagonise an already angry support base? Are they deliberately trying to poke the bear?

I don't have a lot to add. Just bewildered at the delusion between two men.

"His knowledge and vast experience will be crucial".

How to alienate an already abandoned support base. At least there is one thing they are good at.

Meanwhile, tickets not yet on sale.

Danny O’Neill
1090 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:28:53
The blind leading the blind.

Unbelievable.

I only hope this is temporary.

No way back. Are they purposely trying to antagonise an already angry support base? Are they deliberately trying to poke the bear?

I don't have a lot to add. Just bewildered at the delusion between two men.

"His knowledge and vast experience will be crucial".

How to alienate an already abandoned support base. At least there is one thing they are good at.

Meanwhile, tickets not yet on sale.

Danny O’Neill
1091 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:28:53
The blind leading the blind.

Unbelievable.

I only hope this is temporary.

No way back. Are they purposely trying to antagonise an already angry support base? Are they deliberately trying to poke the bear?

I don't have a lot to add. Just bewildered at the delusion between two men.

"His knowledge and vast experience will be crucial".

How to alienate an already abandoned support base. At least there is one thing they are good at.

Meanwhile, tickets not yet on sale.

Kim Vivian
1092 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:29:38
Chris 1085 - It will be interesting to see if you get a reply and/or any update or edit is made to the article. I'm surprised Phil McNulty isn't a bit more vocal about it tbh. He seems conspicuously to skirt around the edge of that particular story.
Andrew Ellams
1093 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:30:48
So we have a Chairman and co member of the board who won't be anywhere near the ground when the new season starts
Dan Nulty
1094 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:34:08
I actually feel embarrassed for Bill, does he think that if we are 'fortunate' enough to have a midtable season he will get a good send off? If where there was a need to fall on your sword it was now.
Andrew Cunningham
1095 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:34:35
What if Dyche decides “ fuck this iam off”.
Jack Convery
1096 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:34:56
I posted it before and I'm doing it again. Boycott he preseason friendlies and the game against Sporting, if BK is still Chairman when they come around. It's an easy way to show everybody what we Evertonians have had anough and want these two clowns nowhere near EFC.
Brent Stephens
1097 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:43:10
Andrew "So we have a Chairman and co member of the board who won't be anywhere near the ground when the new season starts".

Andrew, I see your concern, though the board's role is in part setting the broad strategic direction for the club (senior managers below implementing strategy), so they only need to meet occasionally to review / tweak that strategic direction. And some board members can, occasionally, participate virtually. Matters of urgency likewise could involve virtual participation by some board members if necessary.

I think I'd be less concerned about logistics like that and more concerned about who's participating, their personal agenda and influence, and the substantive decisions being made.

Jay Harris
1098 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:46:18
Just woke up to this news in Florida.I am devastated even if this is only temporary it is going to hinder Thelwell and Dyche and I’m pretty sure Dumb and dumber have no plan as we lurch from crisis to crisis.
I just hope and pray that the MSO deal goes through and that this is only a temporary situation but I fear that this is Moshiris counter to MSP having 2 board members so he keeps control.

Aaaaaarrrrgggghhh.

Peter Gorman
1099 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:48:15
Moshiri is as bad as any imbecile prince of old, and Kenwright is his fawning snake of a vizier.

With these two, Dyche has to work miracles on the pitch.

Barry Hesketh
1100 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:49:56
The accounting period ends on the 30th June, therefore, I'd expect at least one outgoing player before that deadline, I wouldn't expect any incoming players until July 1st at the earliest. Perhaps, we've only got a week to tolerate the new board, however, a week is a long time in politics and an Everton week could equal an eternity, given how long 48 hours has proven to be.

Dave Cook
1101 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:51:26
I'm hoping this means everyone here will be boycotting Financing these idiots since they only understand money. Obviously too late for Season Tickets but boycotting regular tickets, kits and merchandise?
Karl Masters
1102 Posted 23/06/2023 at 12:51:47
Do good, capable and well informed on all things EFC Board members grow on trees? No, they don’t.

There was always going to a transition period while Moshiri sorts out a new Board, and for people to be complaining about a man who has poured £500m plus into our Club, taking time to protect his investment and the future of our club is frankly embarrassing.

The lynch mob mentality has made many of you a laughing stock amongst other fanbase, and we all know it hasn’t been good enough, but to make proper, effective change is not a quick process.

Alex Gray
1104 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:01:42
Sorry Karl but that’s utter rubbish. To say a statement will be made in 48 hours to then turn into a week and a half is amateur. To come out and say we’re signing a striker without a guarantee is amateur. To spend 500 million, go through numerous managers a season and go backwards is amateur. For the board to release a statement making up headlocks with no police report is downright evil.

That’s why we’re a laughing stock not because fans want change because they care about the club. This lynch mob garbage is an easy slur thrown about by idiots. Peaceful protests outside the ground is nothing new and when we have an owner or board that has ZERO communication with the fans it’s been the only option to show how they feel.

You’re correct saying change doesn’t come quickly but it’s been groundhog day for two years now and without the so called lynch mob there wouldn’t be any change at all. End of.

Steve Brown
1105 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:02:23
The new board will be as welcome at Goodison as the last board.

Moshiri obviously thinks that announcing the MSP investment will offset the news that Kenwright remains in place.

He is wrong.

Mike Hayes
1106 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:04:58
Well said Alex Gray 💙💙
Karl Masters
1107 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:07:57
Alex Gray, not going to argue with you as you’re entitled to your opinion, but none of us know what is going on behind the scenes.

Change is clearly happening, but it will take time and having come this far, patience will be a virtue and give us a better chance of getting a Board capable of running the club better than before.

Steve Brown
1108 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:11:35
I despise supporters who insult their own fans.

Andy Peers
1109 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:12:45
Alex Gray..hit nail on head.

Karl Masters.. Change will never happen with Kenwright still on board

Will Mabon
1110 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:13:02
Karl,

it's rather forlorn to praise Moshiri's business acumen for perhaps one recent act of what he might believe to be caution, on the back of years of rather questionable management.

I wouldn't say he poured £500M into the club; he mostly poured it through the club into the drain.

It's about time he took a functioning interest in his investment. At least visiting England again is a start.

Barry Hesketh
1111 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:15:09
Karl @1104
It's bad enough that the fans have had to enjoy consecutive relegation battles, something that has never happened before to Everton, it's bad enough that even though we survived, it was the worst performing Everton side - with a points total that previously relegated Everton sides had bettered - that we've had the privilege to watch in our entire history.

That's the footballing side of things, but the financial mess is purely and simply down to the owner and the board and I believe that is what has caused the most consternation amongst the fan-base, because that financial mess will hamstring us for a few more seasons and many feel that those that caused the mess should pay for it by losing their privileged positions. Obviously, removing the owner is a fruitless endeavor, if he wants to hang on, or cannot find a suitable buyer.

Anybody can point to Moshiri's 'investment' and claim he has put his money where his mouth is, however, what is the result of that investment? has it improved the club? has it made us more competitive? the answer is no on all counts. Remember a great deal of his 'spending' will at some point come out of the club's coffers, directly or indirectly.

An expensive shiny new stadium will be of no use to the club, if we continue to struggle out on the pitch and as soon as Moshiri can recoup his investment, he will be off to other ventures and we as supporters will have to accept whatever is in place when he does.

Nobody has been more embarrassing for the club and its supporters than Moshiri, and his pal Bill who it appears is a vital cog in Moshiri's spluttering machine, which is strange because many thought that Bill was nothing more than a figure-head at Everton.

Paul Ferry
1112 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:15:56
Karl Masters, can you provide us with link/links (your grammar is somewhat confusing: "amongst other fanbase") to support your claim that we are "a laughing stock amongst other fanbase"?

I think that you might need a fair few to make your point credible.

I've been in Limehouse for a few weeks now and I can say that not one fan of another club (whether London, Manchester, even "them") thinks that we are in your words "a laughing stock". Unlike you, they get it, our state of affairs is down to the board; the "laughing stock" is Kenwright and it is Moshiri.

Your "high horse" haughtiness is a root cause of what we have become and it will get us nowhere and is, in fact, the sort of attitude behind Moshiri's, quite frankly in the circumstances, provocative move. Does Moshiri want to make things worse?

Meanwhile, be a good lad Karl and let us have those links or any evidence you have that we are "a laughing stock amongst other fanbase"?

Clive Rogers
1113 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:16:10
Moshiri has obviously spent a week or so trying to get Kenwright to stand down, but he has refused. Now instead of one idiot on the board, we now have two. Disaster.
Alex Gray
1114 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:16:14
It’s all good saying you don’t want to argue Karl but maybe don’t call fans a lynch mob then. I’d call that argumentative language.
Will Mabon
1115 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:17:58
Alex, sorry to duplicate: I typed my reply over a period and hadn't seen yours.

Karl, I think what's manifested in recent years gives a pretty good expression of the quality of activity behind the scenes.

Christopher Timmins
1116 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:19:00
This is not going to end well. Moshiri is just as big a problem as Kenwright!
Ray Jacques
1117 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:35:41
Karl, do you mean he has put Usmanov's money into EFC.
Strange how the funds have dried up since the Russkies were sanctioned.

I fear there has been skullduggery, dodgy dealings, clandestine payments, and all manner of underhand financial fudges done on behalf of the once good ship Everton.

Kenwright knows this and is holding Moshiri to ransom ' fuck me off and I go to the press'.

I really fear for the future with these idiots about.

Dale Self
1118 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:39:02
It looks bad in the moment but Moshiri has largely folded here. Either this is a short term appeasement knowing MSP will not tolerate it going forward or Bill truly has something that Moshiri cannot afford to let surface. That Moshiri is avoiding England is not a confident look

It is disappointing to see ostensible leaders meltdown but we needed a revolution not reform as Colin has said. We have two capable operators in Dyche and Thelwell who won’t bail. They know if they come through the new owners will likely stay in their offices and read reports leaving them to direct football matters without interference.

The dyspeptic duo are done. They can make it painful but it is their final act. We just make it through this ugliness and we have renewed the club.

Barry Hesketh
1119 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:47:20
A fifty-one year old man has been approached by stewards at Glastonbury, it is claimed that the gravelly voiced man was shouting 'give us an E' and with concerns about the use of illegal drugs at the festival, the stewards believed that they had little alternative than to question the man.

A spokesman said that there was a misunderstanding as the man was only chanting a well known Everton football song and the stewards had apologised for any inconvenience and embarrassment that had been caused.

Duncan McDine
1120 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:48:06
The two people responsible for this shit-show are going nowhere it seems. If Everton keep trending in the wrong direction (and we have no reason to expect otherwise), then relegation will be unavoidable. Personal stubbornness and selfishness from those at the very top.
Simon Harrison
1121 Posted 23/06/2023 at 13:55:42
***BREAKING NEWS***

Simon Harrison is shocked and genuinely disgusted at the myopic vision for EFC by the majority shareholder!

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Unless Mr. Kenwright (BK) has some information that can be used to allow the Police, or any Financial authorities to prosecute Mr. Moshiri (FW), then I am genuinely at a loss as to what BK actually brings to the board?

Surely since BK joined the club in 1986, his invitation to the board in 1989 and his Chairmanship since 2004; what body of evidence can BK show to anyone, never mind the majority shareholder, FW, any form of success or any form of genuine attempts to push Everton back to the top table?

To my mind, I can't recall, read or think of anything that BK has done in his 37 year association with the club? Can anybody help me out here?

Surely FW can see that BK's non-attendance since 4.1.23 at the Southampton game, whereby he was also meant to accompany the three main players from MSP who were in attendance that day, makes his continued position on the board completely untenable?

I have an empty, sick feeling in the pit of my stomach now.

I genuinely cannot reason, for business and footballing reasons that is, why BK has not been voted out of the club?

I'm struggling here...

Please bear with me on this one, I'm just trying to break this one down as logically as I can.

Paul the Esk on June 16th Tweeted that "As suggested earlier this week,

"James Maryniak (current Director of Finance) is stepping up to the board, in an interim role as CFO. Good guy"

This prior to any announcement what was happening re the Board; so Paul must have some knowledge from within regards certain executive dealings.

The Esk also linked a thread from a Stephen Leary (@MrEverton1878) which I relate to very strongly, so here it is.

Vented feelings!

On his (The Esk's twitter) account, on the 22/6/23, Paul also outlined the standard way to remove Bill; but I'd disagree, as a Company's AM&M dictate how company rules (NB not company law) function. Anyhoo, moving on.

We now have todays EFC 'Breaking News' piece, which I apologise for now by reposting but commented on at various points;

""Further to the announcement on Monday 12 June, Everton Football Club today provides an update on the Board and management roles. [SH Not withstanding the fact that they stated an announcement would be made by Wednesday 14th June; and no explanation of the delay either? So still a sort of Fans are like mushroom attitude then? Keep them in the dark, and feed them 5h1t from time to time, or just throw them under buses?]

Everton is pleased to announce the appointment of Colin Chong as interim Chief Executive Officer and Director. Colin is currently the Chief Stadium Development Officer and has been focused on the delivery of the transformational new Everton Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock. [SH So, will Colin still be devoting his time 24/7 to the stadium build, and just report at the monthly Director's meetings; or, will he have to be involved more at the Board level, which in essence would dilute the excellent job that he has been doing on the stadium so far (The actual stadium construction, in my eyes, is the ONLY positive of FWs tenure so far. Though, even then it has been like a financial millstone round our necks!)]

In addition, he has been responsible for the operational management of the Club's business headquarters at the Royal Liver Building. [SH Does that mean Colin has been responsible or James has been responsible; clear as mud, and in truth, so what, it doesn't appear to be much to shout about, unless it is meant that when the Liver Building was partially sold off, that Colin now has to look after the tenants as well?] James Maryniak, currently Director of Finance, will take charge of all finance matters as interim Chief Finance Officer. [SH I wonder if James is going to be thrown to the wolves at the time of the independent commission on Oct 25th now that Ingles has gone? I'm sure James will be more than aware of just what has been going on, as he was DoF under Alexander (Sasha) Ryazantsev, and Grant Ingles. If anyone should know where the skeletons are, surely James does? Cue handsome severance payoff and resignation, following the outcome of the review...maybe?]

Everton is also pleased to announce the proposed addition of two Non-Executive Directors to the Board, subject to normal Premier League approvals. [SHI can only hope that the PL refuse FWs application for the NED position, due to failing the fit and proper person test! (I can dream can't I!?) Our majority shareholder Mr Farhad Moshiri will join the Board alongside Mr John Spellman, an experienced Chartered Accountant, successful businessman and Evertonian. [SH Well a quick look on Comanies House and it would appear he specialises in Offshore Businesses John Spellman, which is kind of funny when it would appear that we need football savvy, we have an off-shore pencil and rubber specialist? So, we have BK as Chair, a construction specialist as CEO, fortunately we have a finance guy working with finance BUT, look at the financial situation at the club whilst he's been here; and potentially FW our 'beloved' (sic!) majority shareholder who is always good to his word, if and when he deigns to say something, and an off-shore accountancy specialist? What a perfect board composition for an EPL Football club with limited funds and up against the P&S rule ropes?]

Providing an update on the Chairman’s position, Mr Moshiri said: “I wanted Bill to remain as our Chairman [SH Just one question FW, "Why?"] during this important period of transition [SH Please could you translate that into a known period, or a known set of milestones, or even a target point we have to reach please?] for the Club and I am delighted [SH Really!!! So FW, you just don't realsie how toxic BK is to the fanbase at the club, nor have you any idea how deep his tentacles run within the club administration? You FW might have put your money where your mouth is, but you need to take that wallet of your eyes!]that he has accepted my request to do so. Bill’s knowledge and vast experience will be crucial for us as we look to reset [SH sic! Please provide any evidence of stated knowledge and experience please FW, that can be demonstratably be of benefit to the club going forward, other than BK to spout, "We tried that, and it didn't work, in fact it made things worse..."], deliver on external investment and position Everton for a successful future. [SH Just a quick question here then FW. If that is the case, then just what had BK and the various board compositions, since your arrival, actually been tasked with doing then? Other than the obvious one, which was to enrich themselves at every opportunity at your expense? Remember the second largest board renumeration, for the worst return on payment! I'm sure though, with your creative accountancy skills FW, you could make it look better than it patently was.]

“In John, we have an experienced finance professional who has held Chief Executive and senior finance roles for international firms and I welcome him to the Club." [SH Read for international Companies, Off-shore companies, which when I have time later tonight, I'll look in to. Also, haven't we also got a majority shareholder with exactly the same skill set, who also wants to become a NED?]

“In Colin and James, we have two experienced senior Club professionals who have agreed to take on enhanced roles on an interim basis, and who we know can and will deliver immediately.” [SH OK, so what does interim mean? I presume until MSP and their 13 associates (not a very auspicious number 13 is it?) take up their alloted two board seats? It just somehow doesn't 'feel' very good does this arrangement at all, to me at least. Although, the good thing is, now, with having Colin and James on the board, any vote of no confidence in BK should, if FW has picked his men correctly, go thru and BK will cease to have any association with EFC (if that is possible?) Last question here, if MSP get their two board seats, does that mean Colin and James will stand down, as it were, and it will revert to a triumverate with BK and two MSP seats? If so, I think the club would need to baten down the hatches...]

I genuinely cannot believe the business and operational naivety that FW is has just displayed with this announcement. Basically, he is saying to the fans, "I know best, and I don't care just how you will feel about BK staying, even after the last 14 months of increasing animosity (but no death threats) to the man and his last incarnation of the EFC board.

Touching on the MSP investment, I presume, that the £100m previously mentioned will be for the next tranche of stadium costs; and the extra £30m who knows? Put towards correcting the tax errors in the last annual report, to try and appease the P&S review?

Personally, unless there is a hidden slush fund, I can't see Thelwell and Dyche having much to spend, unless they can generate cash from player sales. However, if the ludicrously low fee we got for Nkounkou is anything to go by, don't hold your breath ladies and gentlemen. Let's hope the £28m for Kean hasn't been earmarked to plug any financial breaches?

Mind you, if you employ Monkeys to run the show, there'll only be interested in peanuts!

Sorry this was so long, I just feel completely abused and dejected because of the way the club I love is run.

Mark Ryan
1122 Posted 23/06/2023 at 14:02:05
So will Kenwright be showing the new board members where they sit in Goodison or will he remain absent because of the imminent threat against him or in fact will the imminent danger of death now transfer to the new board members and so they will have to stay away
It will be interesting. Perhaps he will wear a disguise and confuse us all. What a feckin shambles !!!
Tony Abrahams
1123 Posted 23/06/2023 at 14:08:34
The only thing making me feel better is that there is no way 13 Americans would invest in Everton, if they knew Usmanov was involved, or if Kenwright genuinely had anything on Moshiri.
Kevin Molloy
1124 Posted 23/06/2023 at 14:12:53
it's hopeless for us to try and make sense of why Moshiri is acting as he is. We can't see the full picture, we can't even see half the picture. Moshiri and Kenwright obviously had some medium term. strategy for what they wanted to happen and how they were going to get there, but we've never been let in on any of that, other than talk about 'the Everton family'. I suspect it just comes down to this, at this point in time their interests align. they know there are new investors coming on board, who willl soon start asking awkward questions and wanting to go in a particular direction. Moshiri may feel that in Bill he has a natural ally, someone who will defend the previous administration, and make sure he's kept informed of what MSP get up to.
One thing I am sure of (and this is a real sickener). When MSP do come on board, in their opening statement the first thing they will do is pay tribute to Kenwright. And so be tainted by association. Something along the lines of 'and I'd just like to pay tribute to both the Owner and the Chairman who have worked tirelessly to bla Bla bla'
Marc Hints
1125 Posted 23/06/2023 at 14:14:42
And then you see Newcastle splash the cash, 70 million Euros for a very good Italian player

God its depressing being an Everton fan

wander how much are war chest is 5 million?

Mike Hayes
1126 Posted 23/06/2023 at 14:16:31
Sky Sport will be showing Everton news on Kenshite staying on to further stink the place out 🤷 the unflushable turd 💩
Barry Hesketh
1127 Posted 23/06/2023 at 14:20:05
Simon @1123
I think you may have the wrong man with regards to John Spellman as according to the Echo:

Mr Spellman will sit on the board as a non-executive director - the same title that Moshiri will now hold and one that Graeme Sharp had before his exit earlier this month. An Everton supporter, he is a chartered accountant with decades of experience working in the energy sector - both in the Canadian oil and gas industry and in UK energy supply. He has held roles including chief executive and finance director and has previously sought to help underperforming companies work on exploiting untapped potential. According to the Everton website, which now features a short profile of him, he “has a consistent track record of recovering and developing companies, as well as initiating and delivering complex transactions and creative fundraising in diverse and difficult situations.” He has previously worked with Moshiri at board level.

As for your abbreviations they are confusing, FW = Moshiri? SH = Simon Harrison? The link to "Vented Feelings" doesn't work, perhaps due to the account holder having restricted access to public viewing. I look forward to your more considered post later in the day.

Bill Gall
1128 Posted 23/06/2023 at 14:27:16
What is the saying " out of the fat into the fire " this announcement is just not what we would like to read or hear.

We as Supporters of Everton FC. just want to see the club on a stable footing that in any healthy organization starts at the 'TOP' and that was where the changes should have been made.

No disrespect to the new board members,but it seems they are in the same position as the previous board members, with the same outlook of, your comments are respected but you do what I tell you.

There are lots of Blues supporters that have outside problems, mine is a wife with an incurable disease, but we are still that ingrained in the Everton culture that watching an Everton team play well gives us happiness and excitement and that was being destroyed by non playing personnel, mainly from the people that matter in an organization the ones at the top.

We were expecting that after the 48hrs announcement that something shady was happening, and it did. I was hoping that we may have got some good news soon, but that has not happened.
We just have to hope that the new investors come in and are able to make positive influence in the club as the new board are still facing the old problems.


Will Mabon
1129 Posted 23/06/2023 at 14:28:21
Those suggesting that Kenwright may carry the threat of revealing possible skeletons... I kinda don't think he'd be that suicidal.

Mark - I can't wait to see how the hell Kenwright PR spins his way back into his seat at Goodison. Now that will be a hot potato. I'd suspect a protecting/supporting DBB angle, now resolved by her leaving.

Simon Harrison
1130 Posted 23/06/2023 at 14:34:22
Barry [1129], thanks for your post, it is appreciated, I'll double check on John Spellman.

Just have, my apologies to all, I was incorrect, wrong man.

Here is the Linkedin Profile for 'our' John Spellman;

EFC John Spellman

As for the abbreviations; SH = Simon Harrison, and FW is for Farhad Moshiri, but, in my current state of mind, put as indelicately as I feel i.e. F**kWit. Though to be fair, he might well be a very nice man, I just think his involvement with EFC demonstrates his unkind moniker, albeit in abbreviated form, as above.

As for the vented feelings link, again I apologise, I've just tried it myself, but if you go to the Esk's twitter page, https://twitter.com/theesk the thread is readable from there dated 16th June, about two pages down.

And yes, hopefully, when I've relaxed a little more, I'll think more, and type less, but with more accuracy and less grist.

Thanks again Barry, and good wishes to one and all.

Soren Moyer
1131 Posted 23/06/2023 at 18:32:11
As I said 10 days ago on another thread, he won't leave freely. He should be dragged out somehow!
Laurie Hartley
1132 Posted 23/06/2023 at 23:21:09
Perhaps the owner needs Bill Kenwright on the board until the findings of the independent review are released and dealt with.
Anthony Murphy
1133 Posted 23/06/2023 at 23:31:56
Long thread this - longest ever on TW? Tony Marsh to reappear for post 1878?
Brendan McLaughlin
1134 Posted 23/06/2023 at 23:46:35
Anthony #1133

No...some distance to go in fact. The longest thread hit 1878 plus posts and centered around the appointment of Rafa B.

The Iberian, hospitality worker who's carrying around a few holiday pounds to be politically correct.


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