Kangaroo Court

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I am and have been an Evertonian since I was taken to Goodison to see my very first professional game of football after moving up to Liverpool for my job. Everton played Manchester United and I was hooked. I had never seen such an atmosphere, so many people, so much noise and passion in all my 33 years on this earth. Along with all my family, we have been totally hooked on Everton ever since. 

But recently, the game – and those who control the game – has turned rotten, just like our government and so many of those who control our services, overcome by greed and corruption. 

Over these last weeks and months, I have been watching most of the time two types of programs on YouTube, most of the “ToffeeWeb” sites and “A Kind of Bias” sites, hardly able to comprehend the amount of blind corruption that these privileged people are part of.

Regarding the content of most of the ToffeeWeb sites the presenters spend so much time putting the facts of why the Premier League are punishing Everton (and soon to be Nottingham Forest as well) but not putting over to their public the real reason and the truth of why these trumped-up charges have and are continuing to be aimed at both Everton and Forest.

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It has nothing to do with the rules they continually keep making up as they go along; it is all to do with the fact that, if Everton beat relegation this season and also get new owners, we will be moving into our new stadium with its increased capacity and increased revenues.

Everton, along with Forest and their new owners with their increased spending power, will become serious contenders to break into that lucrative closed shop which is wholly occupied by the Top 6 clubs. This is why this takeover business is lingering on and on and why they keep changing the rules and moving the goalposts, and all the time putting more worry and stress on the clubs — and more so on the fans. 

The fans should make donations and form an association and seek legal advice about claiming damages against the Premier League for the unnecessary stress and worry that they have had placed on them. The personal lives of many fans have been affected and they are suffering genuine distress and trauma caused by the instigators of this totally unnecessary situation. 


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Michael Kenrick
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1 Posted 21/02/2024 at 12:23:48
I'm trying to get on your wavelength here, Peter, but I'm struggling with a couple of things in that third paragraph: you say there's "ToffeeWeb" sites and "A Kind of Bias" sites on YouTube.

I thought there was only one ToffeeWeb but there must be other sites like us, so I guess that's what you mean: we're all guilty of misleading you about the rules and missing the real issue?

I did try a search for "A Kind of Bias" on YouTube and could not see much that seemed to jive — although talking about jive, there's a rather Racey video about "Some Girls" — but that can't be what you're on about.

Got any better examples? Thanks!

Jack Convery
2 Posted 21/02/2024 at 16:10:36
The fact we are still waiting is proof enough that the Corrupt Premier League are taking the piss out of Everton and its supporters. They have known for a while now what their self-picked "Independent" commission of appeal decided. So why the delay? Are they waiting for a day to bury bad news? A day when other more important things are happening in the UK or the World?

Whatever, they have ruined football with their Sky Sports and the evil Sly Six. Personally, I now wish they would sod off and leave the rest of us to get back and watch real football. 3 pm on a Saturday and midweek games played at a decent time, so fans are not forced to stay in hotels or to get on a coach or train to get home as the sun is rising.

I may be a dreamer… but I'm not the only one.

John Raftery
3 Posted 21/02/2024 at 17:26:13
Why the delay? We're probably talking about billable hours here for the lawyers. First draft, amendments, second draft, amendments, final draft approval; it all takes time…

Why hurry when the paymasters, the Premier League, have indicated they expect the decision to be made by the end of February? The task always expands to fill the time available.

John Keating
4 Posted 21/02/2024 at 17:38:21
Spot on, John. Get those billable hours and expense accounts in.

However, it would not surprise me if we get an announcement tomorrow. They might want teams at the bottom to get their games out of the way, thinking it may give someone an advantage.

Luton playing tonight clears the midweek games. I hate to say this but I would love a Liverpool win, big style tonight.

Barry Rathbone
5 Posted 21/02/2024 at 17:59:33
I thought the 'real reason' was we broke the rules but maybe we didn't.

Lord, please stop these mad musings.

Philip Bunting
6 Posted 21/02/2024 at 18:32:50
And yet... Jim Radcliff states Man Utd should be getting taxpayers' cash for a new Old Trafford... yes, that's right.

Never mind Everton stretching themselves to the balls and getting penalised by PSR for borrowing money to pay for the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock.

You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't.

Geoff Cadman
7 Posted 21/02/2024 at 19:04:32
Philip #6,

What Everton paid in interest on loans last year to finance the new stadium, would cover the rental West Ham pay for the London Stadium for years.

I don't know if they contributed to the conversion costs, probably not as all maintenance is included in the price. How could the original commission rule the loans were for day-to-day running costs of the club?

Danny O’Neill
8 Posted 21/02/2024 at 19:18:41
There will always be Everton, Peter.

We're playing Brighton at the weekend. That is my immediate focus.

Sean Kelly
9 Posted 21/02/2024 at 19:35:01
Since West Ham and Man City got near freebies, how can that be a level playing field to the rest of the teams in the Premier League?

Whoever allowed the Premier League to deem our interest payments as running costs needs outing.

Michael Lynch
10 Posted 22/02/2024 at 10:06:45
If anyone wants to know the Premier League's priorities, I suggest they have a look at their Twitter account. Take the first post – "Where is your club in the table?" - and look at the replies. I struggled to find a fan of any club other than Liverpool, Chelsea and Man U replying, and I struggled to find a comment from anyone in England.

The Premier League cares about "the Product" and the "Customers". The Product is the corporate brands like the three just mentioned, and the Customers are the hundreds of millions of consumers around the world who buy into the Premier League entertainment package.

The Premier League is not run for the majority of the clubs, nor is it run for the fans who go to the games, nor is it run for the local TV fan – by which I mean fans who live in England and have grown up supporting the same club that their fathers and grandfathers supported.

The international Everton fans on this site are an anomaly – strange and exotic creatures who haven't picked a club simply in the hope of glory, who suffer when they could have chosen glory, and I tip my hat to them. But the Premier League is run for the glory clubs and their worldwide glory-hunters,

Ernie Baywood
11 Posted 23/02/2024 at 18:53:55
Sean, the people who deemed the interest payments to be running costs were the Everton leadership.

They took out a loan that specifically said it was for running the club and not for the stadium. It was written on the terms of the loan.

They then said before the Commission that even if they could have capitalised the interest against the stadium that they wouldn't have done so.

I recall reading that they may have since treated it differently (retrospectively), which I'm hoping is going to make a difference when the Premier League finally decide the rest of us should know what they know.

Eric Myles
12 Posted 26/02/2024 at 15:35:11
Geoff #7, "How could the original commission rule the loans were for day-to-day running costs of the club?"

Ehhh, well, it could be that it's because that's exactly what the conditions of the loan document said they were for?

Oh, I see Ernie at #11 has already pointed that out.

Eric Myles
13 Posted 26/02/2024 at 15:43:13
Sean #9 "Whoever allowed the Premier League to deem our interest payments as running costs needs outing."

From what I recall, Moshiri was providing INTEREST FREE loans to the Club for the stadium.

So there were no interest payment to be offset against stadium costs and loans taken out were stated to be for day-to-day running costs.


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