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Mansfield Town 0 - 1 Everton U21s

Everton U21s bowed out of EFL Trophy for this season despite beating Mansfield Town of League Two at the One Call Stadium.

Having already lost both matches against Doncaster Rovers and Burton Albion, they sit bottom of  Northern Group H and will not be progressing to the knock-out stages but it provides another opportunity for Seamus Coleman to ramp up his recovery from a serious knee injury sustained last season.  

With a slew of U21 players missing, Paul Tait has been able to call upon other fringe players from the first-team squad to make up the numbers and give them a competitive runout, including Joao Virginia, Lewis Dobbin and Youssef Chermiti. 

It was an even contest in the first half with no goals at the break. There were some decent chances for Metcalfe, Dobbin and Okoronkwo. A quick breakaway near the end saw Dixon set up Barker who skied his shot from 6 yards as neither team seemed to want penalties. 

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From a late Everton throw-in in the last minute, after he was pulled down, Yousseff Chermiti stood up to power home from the spot. Virginia had to make a tremendous save in added time. 

Everton U21s:  Virginia, Coleman (66' Dixon), Astley, John [Y:70'] (73' Barker (88' Heath)), Campbell, Hunt, Dobbin, Djankpata (66' McAllister), Metcalfe, Okoronkwo, Chermiti [Y:73']. 

Subs not Ued: Barrett, Butler, Sherif.

Attendance: 819


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Tony Everan
1 Posted 07/11/2023 at 18:39:26
Coleman and Chermiti to start for the U21s in the EFL Trophy match against Mansfield.
Brent Stephens
2 Posted 07/11/2023 at 19:14:13
Logged on to the EFC website to watch the U21s. Nothing but a frozen picture. Go out and back in and picture is still frozen but a couple of seconds on in the game. I'm logging out and in continuously so watching this game as if it's a silent movie.
Michael Kenrick
3 Posted 07/11/2023 at 20:08:54
I've got a great picture, as always, Brent.

No doubt Dave is struggling — or out drinking with his Red Shite mates!

Brent Stephens
4 Posted 07/11/2023 at 20:17:42
Problem my end possibly Michael. Shut down laptop and fired it up again. All solved.
Peter Gorman
5 Posted 07/11/2023 at 20:49:05
Everton 1 up
Tony Abrahams
6 Posted 07/11/2023 at 21:06:42
Any decent performances?
Brent Stephens
7 Posted 07/11/2023 at 21:31:50
Tony "Any decent performances?".

They all looked very slow on my feed, Tony!

Michael Kenrick
8 Posted 07/11/2023 at 21:42:31
Dazza suggesting my headline is a little premature... but, despite the win, we're bottom of Group H having played all 3 games and with the worst goal difference.

I'm pretty sure it's the top team only that goes through to the knockout Round of 16, so there is no chance in my mind that we can qualify.

Dave Abrahams
9 Posted 08/11/2023 at 10:21:01
Michael (3),

No, I never even bothered, too much hassle and farting about with the Everton website on most occasions, whoever runs the show is like that bleedin' name checker on ToffeeWeb… useless.

I read a report in the Echo (another useless place), they said Chermiti was caught offside on numerous occasions, ran a constant battle with the referee, but the ref relented and awarded the penalty for a foul on Chermiti who sent the goalie the wrong way and stroked the ball home.

Tony Everan
10 Posted 08/11/2023 at 10:53:15

‘The eight winners and eight runners up of the north and south group stages qualify for the round of 32. All other Clubs are eliminated from the Competition.'

But we're done, we can't finish second now.

Michael Kenrick
11 Posted 08/11/2023 at 11:24:50
Ah, thanks for clarifying, Tony. I did wonder if it was 32.

I think we've only got beyond the group stage once in the history of this one. It should be a good test but, if you have to play first-teamers to win, kinda defeats the purpose methinks.

Perhaps David Unsworth was right all along...???

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
12 Posted 08/11/2023 at 12:09:28
Michael, surely this highlights our problem as a club.

The conclusion has to be that our 2nd XI players, the likes of Dobbin, Hunt, John, Okoronkwo and Chermiti, are not good enough to regularly beat "3rd and 4th" division teams – and on here many of us wonder why Dyche does not play them in the Premier League or given them decent game time (last 20).

The whole idea of this competition is surely to give experience to the players in the progression to the 1st XI.

Alan J Thompson
13 Posted 08/11/2023 at 12:21:44
Phil (#12);

I won't disagree with you about the merits and advantages of this competition but some youngsters might show a bit more in a higher standard when surrounded by better players, certainly better than two keepers on the bench waiting for some extraordinary circumstances to allow them on the pitch.

On Saturday, some noted the lack of midfielders on the 1st X1 bench and while I've not seen them, isn't there at least one in U2's who shows some energy as a defensive midfielder?

Tony Everan
14 Posted 08/11/2023 at 13:46:09
Paul Tait. "It's golden for our lads to be spending time with Seamus, seeing how he prepares and seeing how committed he is. It's been unbelievable to have him with us.”

Must be close to being ready for the first team? Wonder if he'll be given the nod for Palace.

Jay Harris
15 Posted 08/11/2023 at 13:54:06
On the game itself, I thought McKenzie Hunt played well as did Metcalfe but Oronokwo was disappointing.

Seamus is obviously still getting back to match fitness and I think Dobbin was okay with Chermiti showing more endeavour.

Absolutely nailed on penalty, Dave, and well taken by Chermiti.

Michael Kenrick
16 Posted 08/11/2023 at 14:06:48
Yes, Phil @12, agreed, it shows up our long-term problem that, even when we had the money, the players we bought in or brought through have just not had the required talent.

Or they haven't been coached properly.

And rarely when they do have the talent and arguably have been coached properly (at PSV, for example), they may not be long for this parish.

It's really very depressing if you think about it for any length of time.

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
17 Posted 09/11/2023 at 13:32:29
I thought a bit about the "let's win a trophy".

Sadly, too late as some are over 21 on 1/1/24 so can't qualify.

But we could have put out a team
Virginia (over age)
Patterson, Branthwaite, U21 player, U21 player
Onana, Garner, Onyango, U21 player
Chermiti, Dobbin,

But as we are also allowed 3 over age players, then that could have been Takowski, Mykolenko and McNeill rather than those playing in the U21. We might have had a chance of winning the trophy and a day out at Wembley.

Robert Tressell
18 Posted 09/11/2023 at 14:07:29
Since their 777 takeover Genoa have recruited heavily for their youth set up.

If it all goes through I expect we will follow suit.

That will inevitably mean a handful of more exotic teenagers from Eastern Europe, Scandinavia, France, Portugal etc in each age group. It will probably also mean taking players from other UK academies and clubs in Scotland etc.

This means multiple small fees for 16- and 17-year-olds rather than more chunky fees for players like Chermiti who are already in the first team reckoning.

We've done a bit of that, already with the likes of Okoronkwo but I expect we'll notice a definite increase.

Should increase the amount of talent in the youth set up (not looking hugely promising right now) albeit as ever the acid test is whether we can get them into the first team over time.

Dave Abrahams
19 Posted 09/11/2023 at 14:37:22
Michael (16),

Paul Tait has been coaching at Everton Academy, in one form or another, for 17 years, head of the U18s from 2016 before being elevated to the U21s last season.

He is there to help the progress of the young players on and off the field, 34 players have appeared in the first team during that time; sounds okay… don't know what it amounts to when all the appearance times are broken down.

I know when I have watched the U18s and U21s during his time as coach there, I have mostly been bored stiff. I think it has long been the time for the coaches at Finch Farm Academy to be reviewed.

Kieran Kinsella
20 Posted 09/11/2023 at 15:41:53

Talking of PSV, Marcel Brands today claiming he'd sorted a deal to switch Rodriguez for the now RS player whose father has been kidnapped but Rafa put a stop to it. Not sure how the financials would have worked but hey we got Demerai Gray!

Robert Tressell
21 Posted 09/11/2023 at 17:14:48
Kieran, as I think you're alluding to - the key bit Brands is leaving out of that story is that we didn't have the £20 to £30m necessary to make the Diaz deal happen.
Kieran Kinsella
22 Posted 09/11/2023 at 17:21:45

Exactly my thought. I think Brands is trying to take pot shots at Rafa but given our FFP investigation had we done the deal presumably it would have made things worse. Plus I'd imagine Diaz is on higher wages than Demerai was.

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