Euros 2024 — Day 19

I'll be out watching the game later and wont be able to check in on TW, so better get my comment in now...

Gareth Fucking Southgate... you useless, negative, clueless waste of space... etc.

I'll be out later too Duncan so I'll get mine in. Wtf you doing Bellingham, you're supposed to play a position, stop giving the ball away, it's not all about you...oh you've scored whilst I was in the bogs again.

Duncan, don't mince your words. Tell us what you really think of him!
Wait till you see Saka at left wing back.

Why are England favourites to win this game?

If I may be English for a couple of hours, in my mind not necessarily yours, I need it to get motivated for the watch. With Union Jack glasses on I would say we still have a chance of seeing key players take over and create. Bellingham doesn't get the space he gets in Real's setup and looks more stuck in position and possession.

Gareth is an albatross. Hopefully, going down a goal will not be the catalyst but there is potential for a breakout from Southgate penitentiary.

line up looks more like 4141 to me, although I don't think the formation's necessarily the issue that some folks seem to think it is

I'm feeling kinda neutral about the Swiss anthem.

Jordan Pickford coming in for criticism from the pundits even before a ball has been kicked. Pish.

Good luck England. You're vastly superior to this team, but you'll need the luck anyhow.

😜

Allen -

What the hell were they saying? What has he done wrong all tournament???

Team was leaked again apparently Southgate held a Come to Jesus meeting about leaks. I blame the RS TTA

Jamie, you prepping for your big Bye Berhalter party next week?

The Swiss are much better at making watches than designing football strips.

Mike -

YES! Jesus above since you're on and I've been dying to address this directly with you, looking back...

Why in the world did he play for a draw against Panama? We easily could have won with intelligent subs and playing a 4-4-1 down a man. We were still controlling parts of the game down a man. He put on a defender (pretty sure of that, no?) and clearly in my mind, defender sub or not, played for a draw.

The man HAS to go. I disagree with your comment reply to me the other day about that locker room needing to be blow completely up. I mean that by hair dryer throwing, not necessarily changing players. They are WAY too comfy right now. Turner's interview was disgusting. A shake up is needed.

And, finally, I don't think Jurgen is out of reach. Break the bank to bring him in. They can do it, I believe that.

Well, I did call it last week, wing backs with Saka on the left and Trippier on the right. Everything should feel less stretched. Seemed like a good idea then! But no Palmer. Mind you, I'm still basking in Liz Truss losing her seat. I must have watched that a dozen times last night.

The Yanks will plump for Southgate. No doubt about it. Southgate likes hush puppies and solid mid-west baking.

Palmer has been their best player. Criminal to leave him out!

Lateral pass fest.

Nice to see England actually wearing white shirts, blue shorts & white socks.

Off topic but congrats to any Canadien fans out there. Semi finals of the Copa.

Should have won 6-1 last night! If they actually finish maybe they pull the unthinkable against the Argies?

Pulling for the cousins to the Great White North.

Yeah, Jamie, Klippity would be great. Or throw a truckload of money at Bielsa and pry him away from Uruguay after they lose tonight to Brazil.

I never have an explanation for what Berhalter does during games. He's the best manager in USA history by far, right up until kickoff. His recruiting and lineup/game prep are stellar. But once the game is on, he's wandering around the sideline in that stupid t-shirt with no plan B. His subs are ad-libbed and frequently incomprehensible. And he has no idea how to fire his team up when it's needed.

Time's up.

Mike -

Your last line reaffirms my belief in your opinions.

Sans politics. 😜💙

Foden has been a surprising disappointment this whole tournament. He's probably reading TW at the moment. Now watch him be the match winner.

Our corner and we work it back to Pickford ! Someone will explain how that is down to Southgate !

Jamie, sans politics indeed.

But credit where it's due, half of our likely starting lineup for WC 2026 will be players Berhalter stole from England, Holland and Germany. His recruiting built this team.

I would throw another name into the Yank footy hat. The Yanks need a younger inspired manager with a proven track record. Sin Yong-nam seems a perfect fit for me. Yes he's on the younger side but it as if Bielsa is always whispering in his ear. He would be on the lighter side of wage demands too.

How's that not a hand ball? Did they recruit a CONCACAF ref?

Everyone is playing better but Kane and Foden. Palmer anyone?

Paul -

Is he Beilsa's assistant of something? Not heard of him.

If the USA misses the big name, my choice is Nancy.

Definitely get Sin Yong Nam he's used to intense scrutiny and pressure

Jamie, he's the national team coach of North Korea.

PF has a really weird sense of "humor".

Ah, Jamie, you

He's North Korea's manager Jamie and would take the job for a wheelbarrow of potatoes.

Paul # 15 I cannot work out which comment I agree with more - tactics or Truss. Both 100% correct. Saka was a big baby when placed at LB but should be playing on the left or at least stay very wide on the right to create space

🙄

Here I was thinking you knew your shit and suggested some up and coming assistant under a mad scientist genius.

Switzerland -

"England, you want the ball? Go ahead... have it... no big deal. We'll counter."

More width Robert and more space in the middle which is really benefitting Mainoo. Getting the ball forward; giving up possession without too much worry. Mainoo player of the half there. Saka and Trippier getting really high up the wings. All set up for a Kane header or Mainoo run.

Robert did you know that Truss's hubby is an Evertonian from Allerton. No wonder she did all that extra marital.

Jamie, my man, 😂😂😂, Bielsa's assistant!

#southgate4desperatecrapyankfooty

Half time of the snooze fest anyway.

Walking football walking football, bores the shit out of me to be honest.

Jamie @ 10 Shearer & co. constantly criticise JP for going long. Perhaps if anyone would show for the ball it would be different.

Came home from work early to watch this garbage. Absolutely atrocious tactics by eeyore. Southgate out!!

If this is classed as good football then give me Dycheball any day.

I can't get my head around why every player has to stop the ball dead in slow motion before passing sideways and backwards all the time.

What happened to the days when players actually ran and did things with some urgency and gusto?

Early on, sending Trippier deep on the left in possession created some risk that the Swiss could not convert. That looks like it gives Bellinho and Mainoo some attacks on the right and overall space for Rice and Foden to find each other in midfield.

Southgate going for pens?

I didn't know that Paul. Poor fellow - on so many levels. I might cheer myself up with the pork markets speech later. 😅

Agree that Mainoo is good.

Kane desperately needs either of Gordon or Bowen to run in behind.

Quite what the commentators think Foden and doing so well completely beats me. Both shocking. Terrible movement when we have the ball. Get Palmer on.

Swiss very disciplined making life very difficult, but I expect one of England's more talented individuals to find a way to prize them open

Bellingham and Mainoo on the left behind Trippier if that matters.

It looked like Foden might find some forward passes up to the 20-25min mark. I had some distractions and it looked like a 3rd place match when I returned.

Just get Saka to start doing keeps up in front of Xhaka so he will lose his rag and get sent off. Bring on Shaw and Palmer

How does Ian Darke confuse a close up of Konza as being Stines?

Southgate is trying to bore the opposition to death.

Why do the England players always looks surprised when the ball is passed to them? No fluidity at all to their game.

Need to get Cole Palmer on and maybe Toney or Watkins.

That Embolo is a monster. Mystified that he has such a mediocre scoring record at club level.

Kieran, Ian Darke reminds me of my Uncle Ned. Delightful fellow, but chronically befuddled.

Mike, I think Embolo is one of those players who are more suited to international football.

Erm subs gozzy-eyed capitalist twat???? Swiss bringing two on. Palmer or Gordon please. I simply cannot understand anyone who thought that first half was a snooze-fest. I, for one, found it rather interesting in terms of tactics etc.

Thank God Vargas is going off.

I can't bear Darke/Donovan KK/MG.

#southgate4yankfooty

I've heard Ian Darke is a closet Blue. And when he called the American games with Steve McMannamon (Sp? Lord that name!) they were brilliant.

What a load of rubbish. Going to do a spot of gardening.

Hi Neil! How ya been?

Yeah, I remember his goals at the WC and thinking we should snap this guy up. He definitely scares defenders.

Jamie #52, they were certainly entertaining. Ian would mis-identify the goalscorers and Stevie would correct him. But they weren't exactly founts of football insight.

Do any of you Yanks know what time Brasil/Uruguay kicks off? Ta.

#southgate4yankfooty

Mike/Neil

His goals really take your breath away they call them embolisms

Yeah PF, 8pm your time on Fox Sports 1.

Can't wait.

Pauly -

9 p.m.

Coverage starts at 8. KO at 9

Really good one, Kieran. Well above the usual standard of your puns!

Cheers MG/JC!

Ffs ball hits player on head player drops as if from a snipers bullet. All thats wrong with the game these days.

Got to get Toney, Watkins, or Bowen on.

Not giving their defenders anything to think about.

Kieran, lol

Mike, good thanks and hope you are too.

Oh my God

Get in and fuck off Southgate

embolism 1-0

Speak of the devil

My lung hurts

Yeah, Kieran, that one pulled the lungs out of England.

Walker grabbed him with both hands and Embolo just powered through.

Stones…….again.

And now - now - he turns to Palmer.

Was that Trippier who let the ball go through his legs?

Oh look our left back is suddenly fit

Paul -

Exactly. Really poor coaches make subs AFTER they go down. As you English say, does my head in!

Proactive! Your team was like stale bread! Southgate out.

When you're playing not to lose rather than playing to win you're bound to come unstuck sooner or later.

England making their subs with the same precision as they have executed their attacks.

Did he really take Mainoo off?

Shaw, Palmer, and who else?

Get in!

Saka WOW

HOLY SHIT WHAT A SHOT!

He probably brought Shaw on so he can counter if anyone criticizes him for brining an unfit player

What a goal

Moment of genius

Subs made all the difference! 😂

Brilliant goal and brilliant from Rice continuing his run taking two defenders with him.

Southgate “I knew beforehand Saka would score that goal”

The gozzy Tory twat is a lucky man.

Jamie lol

Southgate "Like I said, us English have a habit of being a little bit arrogant. Switzerland woke us up with that goal and we thought, 'Fuck, they're all right. Better up our game.'"

What's the counter to Tory Twat? Labour Loser? Curious.

Our three hard boiled eggs in Dyche's gaff with Worthington E party cans and take away curries x12 will be shaking their heads in disbelief: "Gareth you plonker too many attacking palyers"; 'yer fookin wazzack Gareth, get some defenders on".

Pathetic shot by Eze, pulled wide of near post. Bloody Southgate again !

Eze, Palmer, Shaw all making a big difference but should have come on 15/20 minutes earlier.

Jamie: northern labour scum - labour miner scum - Guardian reader, Corbynite

Paul, is that a party 7 they are having?

Lefty c**t, Jamie.

Scum seems awfully harsh. More so than "twat".

And what's wrong with miners???

Don't like it. And I'd about bet I'd not be on their side were I to live over there.

It's still a case of waiting to see what happens rather than making something happen.
It just doesn't make sense with the players Southgate has at his disposal.

Colin -

Well that's defo over the top.

Kane needs to be hooked for either Watkins or Toney.
He's been pedestrian, and caught on his heels numerous times.

So do I keep my promise to take my teenage nephew to the gym or sit on my ass for 30 more minutes of bad football? Existential question.

Brian, agreed, he's too slow.

Depends Mike.
Are you a glutton for punishment?

x20 Neil mate.

Miners strike Jamie 1984-85. Home counties tory shitbags all think that Labour votes are up north, eat hovis, love walking on cobbles, sticking ferrets down their trousers, racing whippets, scoffing pot noodles and frozen food.

In fact, those folks are the reform voters. Labour more likely to be North London's polished finest, organic food, cheese shops, boulangeries, fine wines that they sniff and shake in their glasses forever, The Guardian, like Salman Rushdies books, have art exhibition companion book fetish, ride bikes, walks on the heath, pate, sea bass

There are still a few Labour voters left up north like Brian Bevin Boy Williams.

Oh we can call them cts as well Jamie.

I'm off with my Mrs. to celebrate our 28th Anniversary. Will finish watching in the car.

Everyone enjoy and have a good day.

Jamie, congratulations! Enjoy your day together.

Those Swiss subs are very defensive and thank God he has gone off.

Congratulations Jamie and the divine Mrs C. Have a great day.

He's moving through the Swiss defense with Eze.

Does Southgate ever intend to win games in normal time? Rice, Stones and Kane are constantly slowing down the game.

No tv watching whilst driving, Jamie.

Toney should be on for second half. Expert penalty taker if required and will actually move about faster than Kane's walking football pace.

Aaaaand another thing, despite his overhead kick goal Bellingham, the global superstar, has been a peripheral figure throughout the tournament I'm afraid.

Hate Shaquiri that fucker better not score

Toney as a specialist penalty taker sub?

Didn't we do that versus Italy?

Kane takes Southgate out and injures himself. Job done! 🤣

Shaquiri coming on. Crap. We need both Kane and Toney for pens Brian, though Harold is looking a little shaky.

But will Toney be happy with 11 minutes.

Brilliant commentary: "there's a chance here for someone to grab some glory"

Fucking Shaq

Palmer, Saka, Bellingham, Toney, Shaw on pens?

Won't need that many if Pickford saves them.

Shearer hates Pickford.

Shearer's a c**t

All the BBC pundits hate Pickford.

They're all cunts.

Playing for pens since the equaliser. Just shithouse tactics.

Playing for pens all tournament, kunal

Lol.

Boss hair on that cool Swiss coach; why doesn't Southgate look like him?

Picky saves

Maybe that will shut Shearer up

Not a beep from fecking Shearer tho!

Just about deserved that; hate this fecking song. Pure class from the Swiss gaffer and Xhaka.

Its coming home

Southgate saved by his young lions.

They shouldn't let the lads in the green training tops on the pitch to join the celebrations. Losers. Couldn't even get a minute on the pitch. Losers.

Yes Paul, and if they somehow manage to win it, they all get a medal.

Only the Auntie can turn a Euro match into the kopite show!

Disgraceful Les, England should have to nominate the 11 lads who get medals.

I don't think England would beat Spain, from what I've seen so far

Good to see the soap opera keep going.

Shaw coming on as soon as it went 0-1 was favourite part.

Is that Tosun on the Turkish bench?

Dennis, based upon performances so far, absolutely. At some point though I think they may just put in a stellar performance and, if they get that far, a final against Spain may prove to be perfect timing.

I want England v France final.

Traditional Sam Allardyce type fare: 0-0, no shots on goal, no subs used, decided on penalties after a replay on a rainy night in Stoke on Trent.

Turkiye look bang average here, though they are missing a few including the lad with the nazi salute who bagged two last match. Holland look fairly calm, collected, and cool here. I expect them to win.

I also expect England to beat the clog-wearing "we first grew turnips" cyclists and then to lose 1-0 on penalties to France in the final.

Paul # 104, we were getting on so well and then you have a go at cheese shops. Unforgivable. It's edam cheek.

Ha ha Robert, that was a roll call of honour for me. I'm that Labour fella in exile! I am 100% cheesy!

I'll be surprised if we are playing Holland.

Brilliant Turkey goal!

Where was the keeper, dearie me

Where was the keeper? But what a cross from the wonderkid. Absolutely brilliant. As I predicted, Turkey will win this 2-1.

Neil, all the keeper did was try to raise his arm for offside even though Dumfries pointlessly ran to the goal line to play on 3 unmarked Turks.

This isn't a great Dutch team other than Gakpo. The bling bling gold medallion wearing pink SUV duo of Depay and Bergwyn are hugely overrated.

Pink SUV ha ha like it!

Shearer is like a teenage girl with a crush on 'Trent'. He wets his pants every time he touches the ball. Most pundits will only give grudging praise to Pickford. Shearer hates him, it is clear. I think the Geordie — Mackem thing has a lot to do with it.

The media love-in with 'Trent' is sickening. You would think he won the tie single-handed if you listen to them!

I also had a bet with my Mate with a Turkey 2-1 win,Paul.

At least we agree on something!

I'd prefer the Dutch plodders in the semi final to these Turks.

Is this American woman real or an AI-generated robot?

Kieran, you're right. This Dutch team are a pale shadow of the great masters of yore.

Hahahahahahaha, Billy.

Me, too, CG. England would beat Koeman's even more dour than Southgate's Dutch but not Arda Guler.

Are they the new blow-up dolls now Colin. I'm out of touch. Sould I get an AI-generated female bot next time I go to Divine Pleasures?

Do we have Ozzies in our squad, Colin?

If we play Turkey, Paul, it will be Gallipoli all over.

Do the female bots come with batteries?

Mine came with a foot pump, Neil.

Neil, they still need some work, mine is a dead ringer for a cyberman.

This has to be a record for own goals and goals by central defenders in one tournament.

Colin, ha ha, that's why I was asking as mine did too. Trouble is I overflated her and that was that.

Mine is flat as a pancake, Neil. Need a new model.

I wouldn't want to be a Dutchman in Berlin if they win this game.

140 I got it right!

I heard that you really like BIG BIG BIG women Neil. That's what Rob Halligan told me. So you must have been going for the overflated buxon bigger than big Hattie Jaques model. Just try to space out your pumps next time and don't press as tightly mate despite the excitement.

Our Tosun has come on.

Actually I took her to the local garage in the early hours to use the tyre air thing and got it stuck.

Dick van Dijk can do one...

Not in the same league as Branthwaite...

Great 2nd half.

The Turks feeling deflated.

Cracking second half.

Ottomans out; Orangemen move on.

If I was Dutch, I'd get on me bike and get out of Berlin pronto!

Didn't we beat the Swiss on penalties in the Nations League then lose to Holland in the final?

Weird after watching these sacked Everton managers in the Euros now it's sacked Leeds managers in Copa America (Marsch, Bielsa)

Ironic, Kieran.

Surprised to see Brazil go out scoreless. I didn't pick this one.

What an awful game Brazil v Uruguay. Stuffed with everything that is wrong with footy. Went to penalties, of course, and the filthiest/dirtiest of two filthy/dirty teams won.

What has happened to Brazil? 6th place in World Cup qualifying. Neymar has been shite for a couple of years. Imagine the great Brazil teams including players from Fulham and Villa.