FA Cup — 5th Round
After their meek departure from the competition at home to Bournemouth, there is no place for Everton in this weekend's 5th Round of the FA Cup, in which seven of the fixtures are set to trial semi-automated offside technology (SAOT) for the first time in domestic English football.
Friday 28 February 2025
20:00 Aston Villa v Cardiff City — ITV 1
Saturday 1 March 2025
12:15 Crystal Palace v Millwall — BBC 1
12:15 Preston North End v Burnley — BBC iPlayer
17:45 Manchester City v Plymouth Argyle — ITV 4
Sunday 2 March 2025
13:45 Newcastle United v Brighton & Hove Albion — ITV 1
16:30 Manchester United v Fulham — BBC 1
Monday 3 March 2025
19:30 Nottingham Forest v Ipswich Town — ITV 4
Semi-automated offside technology
"Video Assistant Referees [VAR] will be active across all eight ties of this season’s Emirates FA Cup 5th round proper.
"This will include in-stadium VAR announcements, where match officials will announce their final decision in relation to reviewed incidents to provide improved clarity and understanding for spectators and viewers.
"The 5th round will also utilise semi-automated offside technology in all seven matches taking place at Premier League stadiums, which is the first time it will be used live in competitive matches in English football.
"The new technology will be introduced in the Emirates FA Cup 5th round, in collaboration with the Premier League and the Professional Game Match Officials Limited [PGMOL], following an extensive testing period that has taken place during the 2024-25 season.
"Following successful live operation in the Emirates FA Cup, the Premier League will look to implement the system later this season.
"Semi-automated offside technology will provide more efficient placement of the virtual offside line, based on optical player tracking, and produce virtual graphics to ensure an enhanced in-stadium and broadcast experience for supporters. The operation of Semi-Automated Offside Technology does not change the accuracy of the decision making but enhances the speed and efficiency of the process."
The only match not being held at a Premier League venue in the upcoming round of the FA Cup is Preston North End, who play Burnley.
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Posted
28/02/2025 at
08:31:04
Not being a great watcher of Champions League footy, where this has been in place for a couple of years now, I assume it improves the efficiency and consistency of decisions?
And 'semi-automated' perhaps because a human still has to decide who makes the critical final touch, and when — the moment at which the offside decision must be made.
I assume the video technology on which they rely is still based on 1/30th of a second full-frame rate? By my estimate, a ball kicked at say 67 mph travels about 1 m in that frame time. Players are potentially moving at about a third of that speed, so 1 foot let's say.
That seems to me still like a significant margin of error. Perhaps the virtual graphics in slo-mo can interpolate more frames to improve the accuracy?
It should be a good thing, you would hope… but PGMOL have managed to make a dog's dinner out of VAR to date…
Posted
28/02/2025 at
09:53:46
Michael (1) When I was younger one question came up quite often——What are the seven things a referee takes on the field with him, today you could make it at least eight things by adding bias, and that is definitely used where VAR is concerned and maybe you could arrogance and contempt.
Posted
28/02/2025 at
15:37:11
So like Rugby, where the spectators can hear the logic behind the decision? That would also make the officials more accountable.
I agree with your last paragraph Michael @1. Nothing will ever be 100%, but football has managed to proper turn the solution into a bigger problem and create suspicion.
I'll watch Villa tonight, wanting them to go through.
Then tomorrow, I'm off the watch a League 1 match not too far away at Plough Lane. AFC Wimbledon v Bromley.
Posted
01/03/2025 at
09:36:06
Danny (3) Good on you Danny let us know what happens there! You know what I mean.
Posted
01/03/2025 at
09:51:57
Im going to watch one of my local sides - Roffey FC.
They play in the Southern Combination Premier and I used to manage and play for their vets.
Im primarily going for the new bar that officially opens today but also to hurl abuse (under my breath) at a certain Ricardo Fernandez, the captain. He is the brother of that tw@t at Manyoo.
Apparantly Bruno turns up at some games. As UTD are at Fulham tomorrow I guess theres a chance hell turn up today…
UTFT
Posted
01/03/2025 at
12:35:47
I will do Dave.
Just watched that challenge by the Millwall keeper on the Palace striker. Looks serious.
Enjoy Mark. Sounds like a good day out.
Posted
01/03/2025 at
12:45:57
That challenge was horrendous. Wtf was the keeper thinking.
Mateta is lucky ge didn't lose an eye.
The more replays you see the more horrific it
looks.
Posted
01/03/2025 at
13:26:41
Posted
01/03/2025 at
13:54:20
Awful Brian. And a guy next to me suggested he didn't catch him in the head. I'm not sure what he was watching.
Posted
01/03/2025 at
13:54:40
Awful Brian. And a guy next to me suggested he didn't catch him in the head. I'm not sure what he was watching.
Posted
01/03/2025 at
15:15:23
Watched PNE v. Burnley, thought Deepdale would have been full but only a disappointing 17,000. Perhaps Preston fans are fed up of years of mediocrity.
Posted
01/03/2025 at
15:24:54
Allen, I blame Moyes for lowering expectations 1998 to 2002
Posted
01/03/2025 at
17:43:54
Cunha of Wolves, sent off for a punch, a kick and a head butt all on the same Bournemouth player. Could face a lengthy ban for it, and will definitely miss the game against us next week.
Posted
01/03/2025 at
18:09:51
Has anyone seen the Cunha sending off for Wolves against Bournemouth? He punched, kicked and then head butted the same Bournemouth player in a moment of absolute madness.
He will surely face a lengthy ban for it, and will definitely miss the game against us next week.
Posted
01/03/2025 at
18:15:16
Great to see Cunha missing next Saturday night, he totally lost the plot, kicked the player on the ground and then head butted him and wouldn't leave the field, and that's his second time this season, so could get an extended ban, which will definitely cost Wolves, a headless chicken.
Posted
01/03/2025 at
20:06:13
Thanks, Rob, I was just going to ask that very question re Cunha.
Good news (for us anyway)!
Posted
01/03/2025 at
20:31:48
Apart from seeing that challenge on the Palace player just before I headed off, and seeing City seal it when I got back, I didn't really follow much of the FA Cup today. I'll catch it later on Match of the Day.
As previously mentioned, I made the relatively short trip to Plough Lane to watch AFC Wimbledon v Bromley in League 2.
A really enjoyable experience in a tidy stadium in the south London sun. Wish I'd taken my sunglasses. Honest football for those who are fed up with the hype of the Premier League.
The Bromley supporters were barking mad and didn't stop from start to finish. Great to see, as they are supporting their local team, when there are many options available in London.
When they scored, it was bedlam as half the stand rushed down the steps to he front to meet the players, who had run to the supporters. The security people were struggling and I thought a couple of players were going to end up in the first row!
Seriously, I'd recommend it to anyone if you can't get to see Everton, or like today, we're not playing.
For Dave. I've spoken to Tony. The boy played very well and you can be proud of him. He can grow into that position with game time and seems very settled in amongst the players and squad.
Posted
01/03/2025 at
22:34:08
Yeah, good news about Cuhna not being available next week.
And given he was being touted as going to any number of the moneyed clubs that Sky loves, I am sure there are a number of DOFs and Managers thinking, well maybe not.
Wolves in financial stuck now with £60m+ probably not coming their way and a bit of nutter playing No9
Posted
02/03/2025 at
11:56:31
Danny (17), Yes Danny a lot to be said for watching lower grade football and ten out of ten to the supporters who followed their local team instead of teams in the premier league, they really are genuine supporters.
Ill speak to Tony later when he comes thanks for support there as well, see you soon Danny hopefully.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
13:48:10
Is it compulsory now for the kick off to be played straight back to the keeper??
Posted
02/03/2025 at
15:24:01
Would maybe have been soft but how was that not a pen for Brighton there?
The Newcastle player clearly kicked the Brighton lad who was in the air??
Posted
02/03/2025 at
15:28:11
I knew that was a red card if the ref saw it! Absolute stupidity by Gordon!
Misses the “cup” final, the daft twat!
Posted
02/03/2025 at
15:29:32
Gordon most definitely is a moron
Posted
02/03/2025 at
15:46:06
Why does any new posts on this thread not show up on the main menu?
Posted
02/03/2025 at
15:47:06
It was a straight red for Gordon, so can be appealed, but I doubt very much it would be successful.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
15:48:29
And there we go again - kick off straight back to the keeper! I keep getting stick from other fans saying its only us do that but from what Ive seen on MOTD its most teams now.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
15:50:36
Rob, it was a straight red because he “punched” him in the head. Mightve been a bit of a girly punch but it was a punch nonetheless.
The soft tit!
Clare Balding would kick the shite out of him!
Posted
02/03/2025 at
15:54:00
Mark, have you seen the new 8 second rule for goalkeepers? A goalie has to release the ball within 8 seconds of getting it, otherwise the other team get a corner.
Loads saying Jordan Pickford is the only one who falls to the floor after catching a ball, so he will get punished for that. Every goalkeeper on planet earth falls to the floor when catching a ball, so why pick on JP?
Posted
02/03/2025 at
15:54:47
Its a shame we missed out on Davey Weir. Some of these “unknown” Brighton players look very decent on the ball.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
15:55:28
Yes Mark, straight red for violent conduct!
Posted
02/03/2025 at
16:02:36
To be fair Rob, the article I saw on that had accompanying photos of Martinez of Villa and the Arsenal keeper whos name, due to altzeimers or some shit, I cant remember.
JP certainly plays it but all teams do when it suits them.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
16:04:38
Raya!
I meant the HYS on the BBC, Mark. A lot of fans of other teams specifically picking on JP.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
16:10:14
Course they are, Rob. And the vast majority of them would love him to be their goalie.
With the possible exception of Paul “Hewey” Hewitt… 🤪
Posted
02/03/2025 at
16:14:04
A great concept Rob, or just another thing that suits the most talented squads?
You used to be able to counteract skill, with sheer hard work and physicality but that went out of the window, especially with these talented players knowing how to play the referee, so there are no levellers, anymore, imo.
You can just imagine the timekeeping on this one, depending on the teams, and why they have chosen 8 seconds is probably the hardest thing to fathom, when you actually stop and think about this new law.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
16:14:31
Get in……Danny Welbeck 2-1 for Brighton.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
16:14:54
Yes. Get out Geordies.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
16:15:35
Quality finish from Welbeck.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
16:15:42
Tony, I've read that the 6-second rule is still in force, but it's never applied.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
16:15:43
Yes
Posted
02/03/2025 at
16:24:11
Maggots are fucking gutted.
Cunts
Posted
02/03/2025 at
16:25:04
Rob, I read today that referees didnt like the 6 second rule because they were required to give an indirect free kick which was deemed to be too severe a punishment, so were reluctant to use the rule.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
16:27:29
Crazy, Ray. A bit like not giving a penalty for a shirt pull, despite it being a foul anywhere else on the pitch!
Posted
02/03/2025 at
16:38:51
Christ! 50 years since one of my earliest disappointments watching the Blues!
FA cup quarter final at home to Fulham.
I feel VERY old 👴🏻
Posted
02/03/2025 at
17:09:28
This United - Fulham game has nowhere near the skills of the Skunks - Brighton game.
United are very poor to watch these days.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
17:14:44
Alex Iwobi has played a couple of quality passes today.
Denigrated by many, I thought he was a decent player, who came through an initial difficult 12 months. Wish we still had him.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
17:17:14
Get in…….Fulham 1-0.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
17:18:26
Classic chant by the Fulham fans…………”Bruno Fernandes, he looks like a rat” 😂😂😂😂
Posted
02/03/2025 at
17:20:29
Fine set piece goal Fulham. Love seeing those miserable red faces at Old Trafford.
Is THAT what they're saying, Rob? I couldn't make it out. That's hilarious.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
17:26:32
Think Fernandes heard it as well, Mike, as he seemed to be laughing at it. He wasnt laughing thirty seconds later! 🤣🤣🤣
Posted
02/03/2025 at
17:38:04
You must have heard a lot of great chants over the years, Rob.
Sadly, US sports fans have zero knack for that kind of thing. Or singing either.
Amazing statistic. Man U have not led at HT in 21 straight games.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
17:55:27
Dont think thats right, Mike, they led us 2-0 at half time this season. Unless you mean home and away. Sure that game against us was less than 21 games ago for them though.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
18:00:27
Fuck! 😡😡
Posted
02/03/2025 at
18:05:24
Ah, shit, the rat is smiling now.
Rob, the stat was right. Their game with us December 1 was the last time they led. They played 9 more games in December, 7 in January, all comps.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
18:31:48
ET at OT
Posted
02/03/2025 at
18:46:12
Phone home
Posted
02/03/2025 at
18:47:48
I still think we shouldve taken Willian on a free. Cracking player!
Posted
02/03/2025 at
18:53:04
He is, Mark
Posted
02/03/2025 at
19:13:57
United should let Onana take a pen, hopefully it would work out as well as it did for us v Fulham
Posted
02/03/2025 at
19:21:42
Buh bye, United! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Posted
02/03/2025 at
19:22:59
Hahaha……get in!
Posted
02/03/2025 at
19:26:11
Well in Leno! Kinda shit pens the ones he saved but who cares?
Good day all around with Skunks and Manure knocked out.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
19:29:47
Thirty years ago, I remember getting to our hotel before the Man Utd FA Cup Final, and Fulham were having a fund raising dinner to commemorate playing in the FA Cup Final 20 years earlier against West Ham, because they were absolutely skint.
I remember sweetening up their directors, and they let me pick up the replica FA Cup they had on display, but they weren't ready for me and I ran out the dinner and straight into the other room full of Evertonians, with the cup above my head! 😂
Funny that, you can imagine the pandemonium when I was suddenly mobbed and the cup was robbed off me.😂😭
Great memories, I can't believe it's nearly 50 years, since I watched my first FA Cup Final and Taylor won the cup for The Hammers. I hope Fulham go one better for Marco Silva, who I've always thought could have been a very good Everton manager if he had had a better DOF than Marcel Brands.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
19:39:33
Micah Richards on BBC: “All of the big teams are out.”
Lol – plucky little City, eh!
Posted
02/03/2025 at
19:50:00
The best thing that's happened today was that I remembered that I never have to put up with Dycheball ever again.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
19:58:37
Kieran, exactly. Not only is it dismissive of Forrest European Cup winners (twice) and Villa European Cup winners, but try telling that to the many fulham fans making a long trip back on a Sunday night. Sick to my back teeth of TV pundits earning big money on easy street.
Carragher referred to AFCON as not a major competition, because he's wetting his pants at thought of losing Saint Salah for a few weeks.
Posted
02/03/2025 at
21:06:24
I notice this from the original post...
'Following successful live operation in the Emirates FA Cup, the Premier League will look to implement the system later this season.'
The Premier League should only bring this new offside technology in at the start of a season, not in the middle. Otherwise, the PL are asking for trouble.
Posted
03/03/2025 at
08:41:31
Youre right Ian, you shouldnt be changing the rules in the middle of the season. Unless, of course, it favours the Sky Six.
FIFA, UEFA etc. have bent/changed the rules in the past but solely to favour the club they thought would bring in more tv revenue.
Posted
03/03/2025 at
22:47:52
Six of the last eight in the FA Cup quarter finals are in the top ten of the Premier League. The exceptions are Palace who are 12th and Preston from the Championship. Without checking previous years, that feels like the norm.
Posted
05/03/2025 at
19:54:41
Is this a good place to type come on Paris clobber the shite
Posted
05/03/2025 at
20:06:12
Any place is a good place for that Paul.
Posted
05/03/2025 at
20:08:38
Posted
05/03/2025 at
21:36:48
Says comments are closed MK
Posted
05/03/2025 at
21:37:44
The shite have been so spawny and PSG could/should have had a penalty.
Posted
05/03/2025 at
21:47:08
Ah feck off you satanic spawn.
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1 Posted 28/02/2025 at 08:31:04
And 'semi-automated' perhaps because a human still has to decide who makes the critical final touch, and when — the moment at which the offside decision must be made.
I assume the video technology on which they rely is still based on 1/30th of a second full-frame rate? By my estimate, a ball kicked at say 67 mph travels about 1 m in that frame time. Players are potentially moving at about a third of that speed, so 1 foot let's say.
That seems to me still like a significant margin of error. Perhaps the virtual graphics in slo-mo can interpolate more frames to improve the accuracy?
It should be a good thing, you would hope… but PGMOL have managed to make a dog's dinner out of VAR to date…