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Updated  Everton were said to be favourites to land Jaden Philogene from Hull City, with the clubs reportedly agreeing a fee in the region of £16m, but the Blues are refusing to engage in a bidding war.

The clubs were reportedly in talks but they were complicated when Aston Villa entered the mix and it now appears that, after telling Everton that Goodison Park was his preferred destination, the winger has his heart set on Ipswich Town after all.

After his agent performed a bizarre Peter Odemwingie-style stunt last week by turning up in Barcelona hoping to force through a deal with the Spanish giants (Barcelona claimed not to know who he was), Philogene looked set to move to Portman Road in a double move along with Jacob Reeves.

The newly-promoted Tractor Boys had reportedly struck a £35m deal with Hull for the pair, despite the player apparently wanting to join Everton.

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Following suggestions from the Daily Mail and TeamTalk that Philogene had told the Toffees as much, the likes of Paul Joyce in The Times and Alan Myers of Sky Sports reported that Everton had submitted a formal bid to Hull and that he could end up on Merseyside after all.

That now appears unlikely, with many of the same outlets claiming that Philogene wants the Ipswich move after all and The Athletic say he is set to undergo a medical ahead of a £15m transfer that includes a further £5m in add-ons.

Kevin Thelwell is said to value Philogene at around £15m and was reluctant to go higher than that, hence subsequent reports that he could switch his attention to Watford winger Yaser Asprilla for a similar price.


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Paul Hewitt
1 Posted 08/07/2024 at 20:24:19
Apparently he's going to Ipswich.
Les Moorcroft
2 Posted 08/07/2024 at 20:28:06
If they have agreed a price, why switch their attention?
Gavin Johnson
3 Posted 08/07/2024 at 20:47:45
I really hope this is true after we missed out on Minteh, but there's been contrary reports coming from the north-east, that it will be Ipswich, and Everton haven't made an offer.

I think Alan Myers has also said that no concrete offer has been made.

I would imagine we are skint until we sell someone.

Michael Lynch
4 Posted 08/07/2024 at 21:36:05
Yaser Asprilla looks brilliant on his YouTube video (yes, I know, who doesn't). He has an absolute wand of a left foot, and fantastic vision for a pass.

Only 20, but decent strength and balance on the ball. Squad player maybe, but worth having.

Derek Knox
6 Posted 08/07/2024 at 21:49:24
I would imagine that Everton was a more attractive destination than Ipswich, I mean in terms of where they are likely to finish at the end of the season.

Michael @ 4, I have read too that Asprilla may be the better option, but again we are hampered by finances at present, and our relationship with Watford… "I guess that's why they call it (us) the Blues" :-)

Robert Tressell
7 Posted 08/07/2024 at 21:50:41
The rumoured interest in Asprilla started in January, who only has a year left on his contract. Longer term replacement for Harrison possibly.

I suspect that we might get priced out of the move for Philogene – by Ipswich FFS who have already spent £20M on Omari Hutchison.

Tom Bowers
8 Posted 08/07/2024 at 22:41:55
YouTube videos can be very misleading.

Easy to pick out a special moment and we have seen that in so many players who flop later – especially when they come to Everton.

Anyone remember a fantastic goal by Micky Walsh seen on the box (before YouTube) then he flopped at Everton?

Ben King
9 Posted 08/07/2024 at 23:07:33
Derek #6,

What's the problem with our relationship with Watford?

I know they were upset we took Silva but we sorted compensation and have subsequently dealt with them twice more (Richarlison and Doucouré)…. what's the issue you allude to?

David McMullen
10 Posted 08/07/2024 at 23:27:26
I don't believe any of these until the player is tweeted by the club or one of its minions.
Lester Yip
11 Posted 09/07/2024 at 00:12:37
I can see we're doing some smart business now.

But it seems we're still playing safe by buying locally from lower divisions where prices are already inflated. I would love to see us unearthing gems from overseas lower leagues.

Mike Gaynes
12 Posted 09/07/2024 at 00:27:59
Robert #7,

Ipswich doesn't deserve the FFS. Two straight promotions deserves respect. They're the real thing.

Mike Corcoran
13 Posted 09/07/2024 at 01:54:16
Phylogene looks amazing, yeah YouTube and all that… but.
Frank Wolfe
14 Posted 09/07/2024 at 04:13:06
Mike [12],

Agreed. Ipswich also have a top manager in Kieran McKenna.

Peter Gorman
15 Posted 09/07/2024 at 07:17:49
I disagree and Ipswich do deserve a FFS if they have more financial clout than us, as I think Robert was bemoaning, though that is all our problem.

But totally agree that they are a side to watch and have a manager we should maybe covet.

I reckon they'll repeat the story of their last top-flight adventure and qualify for Europe before getting relegated the following season.

Sam Hoare
16 Posted 09/07/2024 at 07:18:00
I'd be happy with either Philogene of Asprilla. Philogene is arguably the slightly better player currently but Asprilla who's two years younger maybe has more potential. Both good players.

I'm curious and worried that we don't seem to be chasing a right-back currently. Does Dyche intend to start Young or Coleman or Patterson there? Neither seem ideal as first pick and I would have thought it a priority position to re-inforce.

Robert Tressell
17 Posted 09/07/2024 at 07:37:03
That's right, Peter - the FFS was about Ipswich's apparent spending power compared to us. If they get Hutchison, Philogene and Greaves in this window, they'll have a net spend we can only dream of.

In fact, their net spend over the past few years is about €30M compared to us at break-even. Obviously that's a bit skewed but illustrates just how heavy our cost-cutting has been since Moshiri pulled the plug in 2020.

Tony Abrahams
18 Posted 09/07/2024 at 07:47:13
With the present rules around PSR, then it's a good job Moshiri did pull the plug, Robert.

The mismanagement of Everton Football Club has been truly horrific; you only have to look at the the club's overall wage bill to realise that Moshiri chose an unsustainable path.

Hopefully we have already hit the floor and have already begun to slowly bounce back again with a well thought-out plan that is going to be guided by total professionalism.

Steve Shave
19 Posted 09/07/2024 at 08:04:32
I'm a Suffolk lad (now living in Dorset) so have followed Ipswich's rise under McKenna closely. This guy is the real deal, he was very closely monitored for the Utd job and I actually think he will get it when Ten Hag get's the boot this season.

They are well backed financially with a solid fan base in the fastest growing town in England. The football has been electric at times, especially given his squad quality compared to their competitors.

In order for them to keep McKenna from Utd and Brighton they have obviously promised him a proper run at the PL with some financial backing.

I hope they do well, I don't want McKenna at Utd as I think he will get them back to where they feel they belong, he is a Utd fan and has worked in the backroom there previously.

As for Philogene, he looks very promising but as Sam the man said, i'd be really happy with either him or Asprilla, both of whom i believe have what it takes. I'm leaning a little towards Asprilla as Philogene clearly has a twat of an agent, hopefully that is not an extension of his own self importance.

Danny O’Neill
20 Posted 09/07/2024 at 08:36:10
That's interesting insight and knowledge, Steve.

I spent a lot of time in Dorset at Blandford.

It will be interesting to see how long Manchester United stick with Ten Hag. I wanted him for Everton at the time. Coming from Ajax, he's probably more used to dealing with and developing young players as opposed to big egos. And he could have brought Pienaar with him to Finch Farm!

It will also be interesting to see how the Dutch guy gets on following in Klopp's shoes. It is a bit like those who tried to replace Ferguson at United. I wonder if Klopp is waiting for the German national position? That would free up Nagelsman, who is a talented young coach.

I think Sean Dyche is probably one of the safest at the moment, but football never ceases to amaze. He done a great job keeping the team focussed when the circus was going on around them. He's got my respect. He was the only voice of the club most of the time.

Ben King
21 Posted 09/07/2024 at 10:01:56
Danny #20,

Agree: Dyche has done an incredible job, all things considered.

Michael Lynch
22 Posted 09/07/2024 at 10:24:29
BBC saying we've agreed to sign Philogene from Hull.
Steve Brown
23 Posted 09/07/2024 at 10:30:21
Ipswich have made excellent progress and have a good manager, but any player wanting to establish himself in the Premier League would not choose them over Everton.

Despite their progress, I think they will do brilliantly to survive their first season after promotion.

Ultimately, his agent may influence Philogene towards Ipswich, and the Hull Chairman said that they are in pole position (not Everton). But, if I was a player and my agent advised me to choose a newly promoted side over an established Premier League side, I would sack him.

Sam Hoare
24 Posted 09/07/2024 at 10:31:45
Sounds like this could well be happening now. BBC and the Bobble saying we're close to reaching a deal with Hull and are the player's preferred destination.

Could be a great signing for around £16M; he works hard and has genuine pace and flare to beat a man and open up space which is something we lacked last season.

Only 22 so lots of room to improve and has the work rate to make it in a Dyche team. Fingers crossed.

Steve Brown
25 Posted 09/07/2024 at 10:35:37
Ben @ 21,

I am amazed that anyone would claim that Dyche did anything other than a fantastic job last season.

Two separate points deductions, limited investment in the squad, having to front the club's response to massive off-the-field challenges given the board had disappeared — no manager to my mind has faced such a challenging set of circumstances.

Dave Abrahams
26 Posted 09/07/2024 at 10:57:01
Imagine Everton being run with Moshiri's money and a proper sensible boardroom behind them, we'd be like Ipswich or Brighton as Tony (18) and Mike (12) allude to.

What a waste Moshiri's money has been under the boardroom run by Billy Boy and his hand-picked cronies, we can only dream of where we would be now!

Paul Hewitt
27 Posted 09/07/2024 at 11:04:11
He's at Finch Farm.
Brian Williams
28 Posted 09/07/2024 at 11:12:29
Nicholas Ryan
29 Posted 09/07/2024 at 11:21:20
The lad is saying Everton is his preferred destination. I think it is very easy to undervalue the importance of a player wanting to come.
Brian Williams
30 Posted 09/07/2024 at 11:26:14
That's if you can believe that particular report, Nicholas.
Sam Hoare
31 Posted 09/07/2024 at 11:29:44
From what I can gather from relatively reliable sources, Everton is his preferred destination and we were close to agreeing a deal with Hull but Ipswich have now upped their bid.

If Everton match that bid then he will likely come to us. It depends on whether we can agree a deal with Hull. Could go either way but I'm sure there are other wingers we are considering too (like Asprilla potentially).

Phillip Warrington
32 Posted 09/07/2024 at 11:47:01
I just read the BBC Football website who say we have signed him for £16M: Everton reach agreement to sign Hull winger Philogene

I'm starting to get excited by the signings so far… for the first time in a long time. I think for the club in its current position, these players will be good buys, and finally players who are young and hungry.

Jack Convery
33 Posted 09/07/2024 at 12:28:12
Take with a pinch of salt what the Hull Chairman and Philogene's agent say.

That pathetic stunt they pulled at Barcelona was laughable. Barca said they didn't even know who Philogene was and told his agent to sling his hook. They wanted to take photos outside Barca to convince others Barca wanted him.

I trust the BBC report as I doubt Phil McNulty would allow such a report if it wasn't true.

Annika Herbert
34 Posted 09/07/2024 at 12:37:11
Mike @ 12,

They will also be the real deal when they are relegated at the end of the next season.

Michael Lynch
35 Posted 09/07/2024 at 12:53:04
His knob of an agent has posted a pic of himself at Finch Farm. He does love a wind-up.

I think Philogene's agent and Asprilla's agent should play Rock, Paper, Scissors outside the Winslow to see who gets to sign for Everton.

Sam Hoare
36 Posted 09/07/2024 at 12:56:49
David Ornstein (very reliable) now reporting that he's very close to joining Ipswich with a medical booked for £18m. Maybe that felt a touch expensive for Everton or maybe we will match it at the last moment. Other options, I'm sure.

Contrasting reports from usually reliable sources may indicate that his agent is playing games and trying to drive up the prices!

Steve Brown
37 Posted 09/07/2024 at 13:02:41
Not going to lose sleep if he goes to Ipswich.

He must think the Championship is his long-term spiritual home.

Paul Hewitt
38 Posted 09/07/2024 at 13:56:49
Villa now apparently in the mix for the player. Looks like his agent is playing silly games.

I'd walk away now. Must be other players available.

John Raftery
39 Posted 09/07/2024 at 14:36:35
I am pleased to read we are not entering a bidding war.
Thelwell has a valuation and is sticking to it. Good.

It was a pity the club did not adopt that approach when chasing Sigurdsson, a player arguably worth £20M. We ended up paying £45M after the selling club kept raising the price.

Jay Harris
40 Posted 09/07/2024 at 14:39:36
Different stories everywhere.

Form – Ormstein has the most credibility (unfortunately) so unless we pull a rabbit out of the hat and/or Villa invoke their option by 10 July, it looks like he is going to the Tractor Boys.

Sean Kearns
41 Posted 09/07/2024 at 14:51:28
Oh but spending £32M on Bolasie was easy!!! 🙄 …

This lad looks great I hope we get him… someone with a bit of the X-Factor is what we need. Dare I say a Maverick…

I can't wait to get a glimpse of Ndiaye in pre-season.

Paul Hewitt
42 Posted 09/07/2024 at 14:53:21
Looks to me like Ipswich are paying a bigger agents fee.
Pat Kelly
43 Posted 09/07/2024 at 14:54:28
Spurs have just signed him.
Colin Glassar
44 Posted 09/07/2024 at 14:56:06
Surprise, surprise, not. If we believed all the transfer gossip/lies over the years we could name at least three world class starting XIs beginning with Shilton and Riquelme all the way through to Fernandes, Shaquiri, Maddison to Zirkee and Embolo.

As the old saying goes, “Until I see him with an Everton….”

Professional bullshitters like Myers, Wyness, Romano, Bobble etc…should be avoided at all costs. It is fun though and this kid will be off next summer after Ipswich are relegated.

Michael Lynch
46 Posted 09/07/2024 at 15:15:38
Asprilla is miles better anyway, and his agent isn't a prick.

Well, actually I've no idea who his agent is, but he can't be as big a prick as Philogene's.

Andy Crooks
47 Posted 09/07/2024 at 15:17:36
We can't enter a bidding war. We are not "refusing".

We are in the market for promising players hoping to strike lucky. Or for players no one else wants.

Michael Lynch
48 Posted 09/07/2024 at 15:22:12
Ugh, just noticed that Arsenal are considering Asprilla as a back-up to Saka.

We'll end up with Bolasie on loan, won't we?

Brian Temple
49 Posted 09/07/2024 at 15:22:24
I live in Ipswich and the local rag isn't playing up him coming to town.

In fact, many of the Tractor Boys don't think he's going to sign for them and will come to us instead.

Soren Moyer
50 Posted 09/07/2024 at 15:35:51
Who said BBC doesn't report shite!?

They just changed it to "Ipswich agree deal for Hull's Philogene".

Les Moorcroft
51 Posted 09/07/2024 at 15:45:17
If true that he has been making his mind up, and his agent was at Finch Farm, and a price was agreed.

Well sign or fuck off. Move on.

Jack Convery
52 Posted 09/07/2024 at 15:55:42
Soren - It was me. Oh the shame! McNulty's Dept have let me down and him a De La Salle lad just like me – Semper Fidelis.

Anyway it looks like he's got an R Sole for an Agent and Thelwell has called his bluff. Villa have also put a spoke in the wheels for whatever reason.

So bye-bye Philogene and Hello whoever. We still have Ashley Young don't forget.

Danny O’Neill
53 Posted 09/07/2024 at 16:01:17
Totally agree, Andy.

Stand our ground.

Brian Williams
54 Posted 09/07/2024 at 16:18:14
Now doesn't this farcical merry-go-round just prove that you can't believe a word you read on t'internet?

Having said that, some ToffeeWebbers will still go berszykwkak over something some spotty 17-year-old has posted on Goodison News! ;-)

David West
55 Posted 09/07/2024 at 16:38:00
I'm supportive of Thelwell and the club standing their ground.

A player has a value to us and, just because another club wants them, doesn't increase their value to us.

Ipswich are looking to boost their sqaud and may need to pay over the odds and bigger wages to attract players but that's how you end up paying £25M for Bolasie or £27M Klaassen and, if it doesn't work out, you are stuck with an overpriced player.

Move on, if he'd rather go to Ipswich then more fool him.

Tony McNulty
56 Posted 09/07/2024 at 16:44:11
My window cleaner is a Watford season ticket holder.

He told me three months ago that Asprilla was in the Richarlison class.

Soren Moyer
57 Posted 09/07/2024 at 16:45:34
You're forgiven, matey 😁.
Stu Darlington
58 Posted 09/07/2024 at 17:04:02
Same old “Will he, won't he?” crap that we get every year from the media at transfer window time. Everton are quite right not getting involved in a pissing contest, we've lost too many over the years.

Not knocking Ipswich's achievements but, if this lad thinks their long-term prospects in the Premier League are better than ours, then he obviously hasn't got much up top.

Move on. Next Please!!

Colin Glassar
59 Posted 09/07/2024 at 17:19:30
Never heard of him before yesterday so I'm not too bothered.

Maybe we will get Riquelme this time.

Jonathan Tasker
60 Posted 09/07/2024 at 17:25:08
I live in Hull. He's a teriffic player.

What does it say about Everton that a player of his potential prefers Ipswich? We used to be Big 5.

Piero Bohoslawec
61 Posted 09/07/2024 at 17:34:56
I rate Philogene and think he would be a great signing for us but not sure we can afford to get into bidding wars.

I see Ipswich are also chasing the young Man City striker Liam Delap, who was having an excellent timeon loan at Hull last season until injury ended his spell there.

He is the sort of player I'd love us to secure and bed in as a potential replacement for Calvert-Lewin if he were to leave on a free next year.

Si Pulford
62 Posted 09/07/2024 at 17:35:43

He may have the promise of more minutes at Ipswich than Dyche will allow him here. Which would say the player is interested in playing and developing.

It could also be a bigger signing-on fee or wages, which would say he's greedy… lol

Bottom line is we don't know the player's motivation but just because a player chooses another club isn't always a bad reflection on us.

Kieran Kinsella
63 Posted 09/07/2024 at 17:37:01

Maybe he really likes being on the Eastern Coast. Maybe he is also thinking he might be an automatic starter for Ipswich versus competing for a spot at Everton?

Either way, as The Extreme song goes, "Mr Philogene if you don't like what you see here, get the funk out!"

Billy Shears
64 Posted 09/07/2024 at 17:45:23
This lad and his agent keep fucking us around it would seem?

Let him go to Ipswich. When they go down, he just may see the error of his ways!

Kudos to Thelwell – keep looking for bargains.

David West
65 Posted 09/07/2024 at 18:45:47
My masseuse, who is a Besiktas season ticket holder, told me Cenk Tosun is good enough to play for Real Madrid and £100k a week is cheap for the Turkish Haaland.
Jay Harris
66 Posted 09/07/2024 at 18:50:44
TBH, I am more concerned that we haven't pursued any right-backs yet.

Midfield can wait until and if Onana goes. There appear to be a number of tricky wingers available but we want players who want to play for the shirt not the money.

John Graham
67 Posted 09/07/2024 at 19:00:29
No worries, there are quite a few options who we can take a chance on in the lower leagues and abroad.

We need to make our own valuation of players and stick to it.
Asprilla also looks a good prospect and he's 2 years younger.

As long as we have a plan on the type of players we want that's all that matters. It's always a gamble.

Mike Gaynes
68 Posted 09/07/2024 at 19:03:05
Hey guys, check out what's making the rounds today. Photos taken 17 years ago for a charity calendar. Young budding superstar Messi holding and bathing a baby.

The infant's name: Lamine Yamal.


Ian Bennett
69 Posted 09/07/2024 at 19:27:33
Sky Sports News understands the player favours a move to Ipswich.

If that's the case, then walk away. Anyone who favours ipswich over Everton clearly has no ambition.

Derek Knox
70 Posted 09/07/2024 at 19:35:56
I quite fancy this Asprilla lad, (not literally, but metaphorically) but there has been little mention of any interest from us. Possibly good news, but this is Everton and although positive changes are happening behind the scenes, we can hope and pray, we get the right players in.

Mike G, any chance Messi could come and bathe a few of our squad ? :-)

Bill Gall
71 Posted 09/07/2024 at 19:42:49
He may have stood out in the championship last season but a jump up into the premier league is no walk in the park and there are other potential players that have moved up 1or2 divisions and failed.
We had a squad that finished mid table excluding the points deduction. and yes we need upgrades, but there must be better than potentials for the same asking price.
Paul Ferry
72 Posted 09/07/2024 at 19:47:05
Paul Hewitt 27: He's at Finch Farm.
Gordon White
73 Posted 09/07/2024 at 19:50:02
Should want to play for us for the right reasons. The more you read about this, the more it sounds like a saga. If he wants Ipswich, good luck to him, and them. Incidentally, it will be interesting to see how these newly promoted teams manage PSR.
We need to walk away if it becomes a contrived bidding war. There's other fish in the sea.
Mike Hayes
74 Posted 09/07/2024 at 19:57:00
Must be desperate for championship football 🥳
Dave Abrahams
75 Posted 09/07/2024 at 20:05:33
Jack (52), I had a few debates with Phil when he worked for the Echo, won a couple as well!

I didn’t know you and him went to De La Salle, when did you go there, I went from 1952-57, a bit before your time there maybe. The one in Carr Lane East was opened in about 1954 my third year there.

Christy Ring
76 Posted 09/07/2024 at 20:39:27
I think his agent is playing mind games, if he prefers Ipswich, it's definitely not a football decision, just walk away. Why not make an offer for Greenwood, especially if Calvert-Lewin isn't interested in a new contract, and an upgrade on Broja.
Tommy Carter
77 Posted 09/07/2024 at 21:32:59
Could well be that Ipswich will put him on a deal with a release clause etc and he sees his next move as a stepping stone towards a transfer to a champions league club. If that’s the case and that’s his ambition then having a set release clause will make that process work very much in his favour.

Just a guess as I cannot think of any other real reason as to why he would favour a move there ahead of Everton

Shane Corcoran
78 Posted 09/07/2024 at 22:08:00
Why not make a move for Greenwood, Christy?

I can think of one reason…

Justin Doone
79 Posted 09/07/2024 at 22:37:13
Money, prestige, game time, respect for a manager, club and style of play all play a part in decisions, in roughly that order.

I completely understand why Ipswich could be a preferred destination.

But it's nice to be linked to these young, athletic, creative attacking players. I just don't believe it.

I don't think we will get another forward in unless one leaves. A 6ft plus freeby probably the exception.

Gavin Johnson
80 Posted 09/07/2024 at 22:41:03
Ipswich's owners have huge wealth and have more money than Friedkin and Moshiri combined.

I don't think they will be relegated next season, and as much as I hate to say it, I'm not overly surprised he's seemingly picked them over us.

Dan Parker
81 Posted 09/07/2024 at 23:14:27
Well done, Everton. It's a shame we miss out on the promising player but we refused to spend silly money.

Sign the player, you sign the agent. Don't need the crap that comes with it. Next.

Laurie Hartley
82 Posted 09/07/2024 at 23:23:11
I was really hoping we would sign this player – he has the lot for a winger. Exactly what we need.
Sean Kearns
83 Posted 10/07/2024 at 03:33:28
Philogene is not my lover… He’s just a boy who said that I am the one!
Jim Bennings
84 Posted 10/07/2024 at 06:28:52
I haven't seen much of Philogene or Asprilla if I'm honest.

All I would ask though is are they fast, can they run?

Because we've already got wide players on either side that have zero pace and don't need another one with that same limitation.

Steve Shave
85 Posted 10/07/2024 at 07:07:06
Jim, they are both electric.

I am now leaning more to Asprilla because of the agent and this Philogene story stinks of him not having the right people around him.

I agree, we need someone who can come off the bench and make a difference with their pace until they can cement a place in the team.

Eric Myles
86 Posted 10/07/2024 at 10:00:45
Dave #75,

I was at De La Salle, 1975-77.

You didn't have a maths teacher by the name of William Butler in your day did you?

Dave Abrahams
87 Posted 10/07/2024 at 10:20:10
Eric (86),

Yes, I rember Mr Butler very well – a real character, an Irishman, a good teacher. I enjoyed Maths so always looked forward to his lessons.

He had a saying he used often: “Tell the truth and shame the devil” which was good advice as well. I don't think you can go wrong in telling the truth.

If I'm not mistaken, he lived over the water on the Wirral.

Michael Lynch
88 Posted 10/07/2024 at 10:59:14
If anyone wants to check out Asprilla, Colombia are playing Uruguay in the Copa America semi-finals at 1am tomorrow morning. He's likely to be on the bench, but did come on as a sub for a certain James Rodriguez in one of the group games, so you never know.

Assuming Colombia reach the final, he won't be available until after next Monday, so I'm guessing that any transfer activity will also wait til then.

Ian Wilkins
89 Posted 10/07/2024 at 12:15:43
Ipswich apparently increasing their offer, Villa matching, Palace getting involved.

Agent is a right troublesome twerp, and it says something of the player when choosing to be advised by the likes.

Give this a wide berth and move on. Interesting as the player looks, there are other options.

Derek Knox
90 Posted 10/07/2024 at 12:47:23
Dave @87, good story mate, which I find amazing.

“Tell the truth and shame the devil.”

So he knew Kenwright all those years ago, and no-one listened apart from yourself, and a few others?

Ray Roche
91 Posted 10/07/2024 at 12:49:35
Ian, where did you read that Ipswich have increased their bid?

I can't find anything new on this transfer.

Joe Ainsworth
92 Posted 10/07/2024 at 12:56:37
Christy Ring (76).

Sign that scumbag Greenwood????!!! You're talking through your surname, mate.

Andrew Ellams
93 Posted 10/07/2024 at 13:08:36
A lot of negativity to what Ipswich are all about on here but there's a good chance they could emulate a lot of what Brighton have done since they came back to the Premier League.
Jack Convery
94 Posted 10/07/2024 at 13:15:21
Dave Abrahams. I was at De La Salle in the 70s. Bro Alban was Headmaster. It's called Dixons Croxteth Academy now. A Voluntary Aided School. There's a FB page under De La Salle, apparently.

On this Philogene transfer. It's about time teams from the EPL were banned from adding conditions for players they sell. I understand why teams from lower leagues need these conditions but why EPL teams. Villa have really put a spoke in the wheels of Hull, by insisting that any club offering money must beat what they, Villa are prepared to put on the table.

As for this guys agent, give him a swerve big style.

James Hughes
95 Posted 10/07/2024 at 13:38:17
Joe @92,

So I take it you don't believe in forgiveness, I understand it is in the bible, but not read it for a good few years. Or that people make mistakes and accept them and grow as humans.

Or that a teenager tipped as the next big thing was under pressure and couldn't handle it. Maybe his teenage partner also couldn't handle it either and that is why she withdrew charges.

But no forget rehabilation of offenders and condemn the lad for the rest of his life. It's not that simple. I won't say too much but I have been on the receiving end.

Paul Hewitt
96 Posted 10/07/2024 at 13:45:37
Crystal Palace are now favourites.

Whoever signs this lad are in for a heap of trouble. If I was him, I'd be looking for a new agent.

Dave Abrahams
97 Posted 10/07/2024 at 14:06:05
Jack (94) I remember Brother Alban he was the geography, history and religious teacher as my form master, he was known as Jock, behind his back, to us kids, he was from Glasgow.

About this transfer, it’s had a lot of beginnings but no ending, don’t even know if I really want Everton to sign him——-some agents are no better than pimps being honest.

Mike Dolan
98 Posted 10/07/2024 at 14:06:29
Philogene looks to be an excellent player I just hope his decision making in the game is better than his judgement in choosing an agent.

Even if we do get him we still hopefully stay in the market for that kid from Watford.

Ian Wilkins
99 Posted 10/07/2024 at 14:35:49
Ray @91, multiple sources reporting that Ipswich and Everton had initial offers agreed, including BBC, Ipswich subsequently increased their offer.

Agree have to take some of reports with pinch of salt, but this was reported numerous times. Agent and club trying to promote a bidding war it seems.

Eric Myles
100 Posted 10/07/2024 at 14:40:32
Dave #87, that's amazing that we had the same maths teacher 20 years apart, but he was an institution at DLS having taught a few of the teachers that were there in my time.

And he wouldn't be called Mr. Butler, it was always "Uncle Paddy", a character like you say but he wouldn't be allowed to teach in this day and age.

Jack #94, Brother Alban was headmaster when I was there too, so you must remember "Uncle Paddy" also?

I was one of his "pets" as I'd transferred in with a couple of others to do A levels so got special treatment!

John Pendleton
101 Posted 10/07/2024 at 14:50:54
Sean Kearns #83

Worry not, your valuable contribution to these comments did not go completely unnoticed.


Martin Farrington
102 Posted 10/07/2024 at 15:04:30
His agent has used us as leverage.
Dont believe the hype
Mark Ryan
103 Posted 10/07/2024 at 15:31:54
Piss poor from Villas Director of Football to let him go just a year ago and now they want him back. All very odd
Gaute Lie
104 Posted 10/07/2024 at 15:43:11
Dont know anything bout this player.
However I'm glad and proud if the club finally stops wasting money on players that are of unknown quality.

If hes worth it we will probably pay. Otherwise leave him. We don't need fringe players just in for the buck. We need young Colemans, Cahills and Artetas. Nothing else.

Paul Hewitt
105 Posted 10/07/2024 at 15:54:17
I'd love to see all the clubs bidding for this lad to walk away, leave him at Hull. The lad and his grabbing agent would deserve it.
Dave Cashen
106 Posted 10/07/2024 at 15:57:36
The kid needs to find himself a decent agent
Andrew Keatley
107 Posted 10/07/2024 at 15:57:47
Mark (103) - It's more a business decision than anything else.

If Villa consider that Philogene is currently worth more than the price that Hull are asking then they might exercise their option, even if they don't view him as someone they need in their squad at present. They may even decide to buy him back and then loan him out to a Premier League rival this season, in the hope that another good season sees him double his value in 12 months. An underwhelming season probably sees him at least hold his current value. So it would probably be shrewd of Villa to exercise the option, as long as the asking price does not exceed what they consider his value to be.

Emery has done a very good job at Villa, but they are lucky to have had a bumper crop of youngsters that they have cashed in on. I suspect that in a few years Villa might look back at the likes of Aaron (and his brother Jacob if he leaves too) Ramsey, Carney Chukwuemeka, Tim Iroegbunam, Cameron Archer, Finn Azaz, Omari Kellyman and Jaden Philogene and wonder if they cashed in too soon on most of them.

Dale Self
108 Posted 10/07/2024 at 16:36:36
Sean 83, but this kid is not our son.
Pete Gunby
109 Posted 10/07/2024 at 18:10:49
Still laughing Sean 83
Si Cooper
110 Posted 12/07/2024 at 01:56:20
So has he signed for anyone yet? Are we now all waiting for Colombia to conclude their business against Argentina on Monday morning so Asprilla can take part in this particular merry-go-round?

I'm bored and I want the club to conclude more transfer business to prove it's not just a husk waiting for a tiny earth tremor to start it crumbling to just a pile of dust.

James Marshall
111 Posted 12/07/2024 at 09:37:26
Reports this morning say Philogene is away in pre-season with Hull, and that no bids have been accepted, and also that we're still in for him, and that he allegedly prefers Everton over other clubs.

That said, money talks and, if Ipswich come up with a bigger bid… well, we all know what happens next.

Michael Lynch
112 Posted 12/07/2024 at 20:03:09
Sounds like hes going back to Villa.

They sold him for £5m and are buying him back for £18m. They will get 30% knocked off because off a sell-on clause, so a net fee of around £13m. for a player they had under contract a year ago.

£8m down the drain. Dickheads.

Paul Hewitt
113 Posted 12/07/2024 at 20:08:53
Strange move for the lad. He's never a starter in that team. Going to spend most of the time on the bench.

His agent has probably told him Villa is the best choice.

Billy Shears
114 Posted 12/07/2024 at 20:35:49
Time to swerve this one methinks... stick with the Watford lad, sounds like a decent player!

I mentioned Greenwood as a possible transfer a month back... still a controversial one with some Blues, sadly!

Still wish we'd go for Dolan at Blackburn... we still need a pacy wide man on the right.

Colin Glassar
115 Posted 13/07/2024 at 09:06:39
So what's happening with this lad and the other 40 odd players we've been linked to?

C'mon Everton, we want to be excited again. Friedkin, where are you?

Laurie Hartley
116 Posted 13/07/2024 at 09:25:17
He's re-signed for Villa, Colin.

I am very disappointed about this one. A cracking footballer that lad.

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