Sean Dyche has full backing of current ownership despite fan discontent

It's exactly what they would say, irrespective of what might or might not be going on in what used to be the smoke-filled rooms.

Dyche is always going to "be in charge for the foreseeable future" … until one day, all of a sudden, he is in charge no longer. That's just the way it always works. So really, we are none the wiser.

Michael, of course you're right, it means nothing, if and when results don't go our way or someone tips their hand..

The press know he is a dead man walking, never mind the fans, foreseeable future... that could be a day, a week, a month or a year, or the next bad result..

TFG aren't going to say anything until they want to. Not sure what's that meant to do Alan, make the fans happier or angrier? Make Dyche feel more secure until the next result? For whose benefit was that made public! To quell speculation? Not a chance.. TFG are merely keeping their powder dry..

Or perhaps you just mean that the person (or persons) who will do the deed at some point have a distinct advantage in terms of foresight?

He's walking away from Everton probably just in time to enjoy his first Christmas in quite a few years away from football so he can afford to be content with Everton's manager at the moment.

I can't see how sacking Dyche is even on Moshiri's radar at this late stage. As Paul #4 suggests Moshiri is done throwing money at this.

I'm sure we'll see Dyche "on the grass" come January

Don't just go and appoint a Hollywood manager who ispast his sell-by date. Care and consideration needs to be taken into account when appointing a new manager when the time comes.

When it all boils down to it under Moshiri we've appointed too many bad managers in his tenure. Only Carlo and arguably Silva given more time and backing have been worth a mention given the funds Moshiri has thrown in.

He'd have to pay him off out of his own pocket, before the takeover is complete. He's not going to lose any more money?

Dyche is clearly not getting anything remotely near the best from the squad, has also clearly no idea as to how to do so. Shuffling the same players into different locations on the pitch, deck chairs on the Titanic. We face all the top sides in December, so how can we change the tactics and personnel to upset the apple cart?

Clearly, the full-back situation is poor on both sides, at the moment neither is effective going forward or overlapping. Patterson or Dixon (even Coleman) may be better options, even off the bench.

Crossing a ball to Calvert-Lewin or Beto by either full-back is appalling and one of the reasons we cannot create decent goal-scoring chances for any forward (we only have one on the pitch usually).

Doucoure should be dropped to the bench, we need a creative player in the middle to open the game up. Gueye or Mangala are defensive players incapable of passing or shooting, Armstrong or Ndiaye in the middle...?

Without service to the centre-forward, we are dead in the water... neither Harrison nor McNeil have any pace or ability to go past a full-back and we have nothing to replace either as wide men.

Lindstrøm can cross but he is at best a substitute, leaving McNeil wide on the left. Too many gaps... tactically and quality wise leaves the latest version of the Stracq and Calvert-Lewin who has all but given up on chasing his own shadow and pointless punts.

Broja? Chermiti? Without service, both will struggle. We need raiders who can cross, or a creative midfielder.

I need to go back to sleep... 3:45 am and I am lying in the dark writing about bloody Everton! I don't know who is worse, the team or me for my support... Hang on, they win. Night all.

It is a failure of the Premier League now that only a few teams are actually playing to win; possibly 50% are playing only to stay up. Is it sustainable as a spectacle?

I'll have a tenner charity bet with you that within a fortnight of the new owners, he's gone.

TFG will have a man lined up already; if they haven't, then they are as bad as Kenwright and his cronies.

It is to be yet another season of diminished ambition and low expectations. No wonder the atmosphere at Goodison was lacking on Saturday. It's draining for all concerned.

If only Calvert-Lewin's flicked deflection had found the net in the first half... we might have grown in confidence. We need a bit of luck.

It's just that looking at the risks, keeping him with no compensation is perhaps on the same level as changing him out?

Certainly not compared to what we would lose if he takes us down — which is looking more likely game by game.

My guess is only a few more weeks of Dyche remain.

His shortcomings of team selection, tactics and game management are becoming too constant now and it seems he has lost the majority of supporters and some of the players too so we need to act quickly and decisively.

My only concern is that TFG are being told what club insiders have to say and we know how they stick together but the current situation is unsustainable so I think action may be forced on them.

So if TFG did have intentions of changing managers on arrival, Alan Myers wouldn't know.

However... Dave #12, I'll take that bet. I predict they will want to assess the managerial situation themselves on arrival, and that'll be a significantly longer process.

But just in case I'm wrong, what's your chosen charity?

Christine #10, I remember that post and agree that it won't happen. But just out of curiosity, what made you think that either our current or incoming owners would have had the slightest interest in Moyes? And what made you think Moyes would have had the slightest interest in coming in as an interim manager under a lame-duck owner, especially when he could be replaced on the Friedkins' arrival?

Nothing to see here. We continue to wait for the sale to complete. I wonder how many December games will have gone by before it happens?

Why would he? He will shorty be history and a new manager will quite rightly be the decision of the new owners, TFG.

TFG will surely be monitoring performance and have a view on Dyche but, at this stage, no more than a view; no say whatsoever until they become the new owners.
Thus we are in short-term limbo, only to be resolved when ehe new owners are in place.

Their Roma ownership suggests, if they don't like what they see, then they will act quickly and decisively.

Buying a Premier League club, with a brand new stadium, they will not want to sit on their hands and watch Dyche take us to the edge of the abyss.

Claire House Children's Hospice on the Wirral.

Yours mate?

Everton Football Club right now are very much that gif with the dog in a room that's on fire, drinking coffee saying "everything is fine".

They seem to continually pour scorn on any dissent from fans. Continually backing the manager saying everything is okay. It's embarrassing.

While Dyche is a talking disaster. After he arrived once he got familiar with the problems at the club, and for a lot of last season, he handled things well and was often the only person speaking from the club. Now he's flipped. Stick some underpants on your head and two pencils up your nose, Dyche, and go 'wibble'.

Stand Up 2 Cancer will do for me. Thanks.

I'll honour that.

Since WW2, Everton have only won silverware when an ex-Everton player has been the manager. Lee Carsley anyone?

Dyche was sacked by Burnley 15 April 2022. They had won just 4 games, and were relegated.

Klopp never played for Liverpool, can we please move into the 21st Century.

Now correct me if I'm wrong (frequently), and it only reflects my humble opinion, but does this reveal:

(a) Dyche has complete disregard for the much-feared December fixture list and our potential descent to the bottom of the table;

(b) Dyche knows he'll be out of a job before then;

(c) Dyche believes he can do it all – just as long as it benefits him?

Either way, not a great look in the current circumstances. And not one to generate renewed support from a fearful fanbase.

He would be a good signing if we really want to develop younger players.

We broke loose from "that way of thinking" when Joe Royle left nearly 30 years ago, Mate. We have endured the darkest period of our entire history since.

Why on earth have we abandoned the only thing that has ever worked for us in favour of the only thing that never has?

Results will determine whether or not he stays, and while we are drawing games, we certainly aren't winning any.

To be fair, we don't look like we've got a goal in us, let alone a win. Does anyone, Myers included, believe the Friedkins will put up with this nonsense he's currently subjecting us to, no thought not.

As soon as they're in, he's history, and it won't be a day too soon.

I do agree with Paul T, that Carsley would be good for player development though. Not sure if he would be interested. I thought Coventry may have approached him after they were crazy to sack Mark Robbins.

Not long now, won't make his 2 year anniversary.

Dyche-Ball will become Sarri-Ball...I just hope it's better.

Everton may find more space going forward against upper half table opposition. Dyche likes to play with defence in mind. It is difficult to play against teams who think something the same. The defence outnumbered the attack in both cases.

The issue I've got with him is he's made me not care about the club. I'm past caring and wasting my time being bothered anymore and that's something I can't forgive. I'm fed up watching predictable shite being served up, week-in & week-out.

His substitutions are roughly at the same time every game (around the 70th minute) and it's like for like. No formation changes.

His after match press conference are predictable. Blame everyone else apart from himself. He seems to have lost the dressing room. He's definitely lost the crowd. He's a dinosaur. Get Out Of My Club!!!

‘Everton may find more space going forward against upper half table opposition'

That may well be true, Jerome, but I'll bet the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool are absolutely crapping themselves given the potency of our attack currently. Seriously though, I think you could be right, I don't think December will be quite as bad as people think, bizarrely.

Christine @10,

Your comments around wide men are interesting. Personally, I don't see the point in playing wide men at all given the lack of pace and the lack of full-back overlap we produce with the players we have.

Personally, I would pack the midfield with Gana, Mangala and Garner (when available, I've really missed Garner) and then mix things up with Ndiaye (or McNeil) behind Calvert-Lewin (until Broja or Chermiti are available) and Beto, playing as a front two.

Be more adventurous, try something different, but it's pointless really, Dyche wouldn't try something like that.

I'd assume the ownership change will have happened before the Chelsea game. Whether TFG bring a new guy in to have Chelsea and Man City as his first two games time will tell. Personally, I don't see Dyche being in charge for the Forest game.

I may be totally wrong but it's a tough call making a change during the Xmas period; but if you don't, that's a lot of games wasted if you're going to make a change anyways. Also, Forest and Bournemouth should be games we're getting points from. Albeit there is a mini break after Bournemouth with the FA Cup Third Round.

We'll see – December will be interesting!

Dyche is the antithesis of attacking football, he plays wide men who are used as auxiliary full-backs, his full-backs never overlap, that's his choice for his team to play that way.

As I commented the other day, when Brentford attacked when down to 10 men, they still managed to get 4 of their players in our box, yet apart from the last 15 minutes we very rarely managed to get 3 of our players in their box.

Despite him saying he had seen no evidence that Ndaiye could play the No 10 role, he moved him into that position when Brentford went down to 10 men, but Brentford stayed compact so Ndaiye wouldn't find the space as he would when it's 11 vs 11.

Playing out wide, teams know he is a threat, so they double up and, with our manager refusing to allow his fullbacks to overlap, then he has to beat both defenders before trying to create something.

The reason we lack goals is simple: we don't commit enough players going forward, so even if Ndaiye or Lindstrom get free of their markers, they have only one or two players in the opponent's box.

Dyche won't change his style and, with a tough run of fixtures coming up and being only 3 points ahead of Palace who are next to bottom, our league position could look a whole lot worse come 1 January 2025.

Are you sure you got the date the 16th correct, if so that date is two days after the Arsenal game, not the derby.

Bad as our football and tactics have been, here is a statistic over recent times.

When we have three games coming up in a week, we have an unusual occurrence.

Towards the end of last season, we had three games in a week, two at home, one away, we won all three beating Forest 2-0, Red shite 2-0 and Brentford 1-0.

Then just after the first points deductions we had to play three games in a week, again Forest kicked off our first win away 1-0, followed by Newcastle 3-0 win at home, followed by a chelsea win 2 nil at home

Both the above featured two home games that week.

Now there will be other occasions where we may have got done over, but weird that on those two occasions when we really expected to pick up far less points, we came away with 9 points on both instances.

I wanted to do this for Danny, because even when we have been at our lowest as supporters, Danny always manages to pick us up with a positive, that’s for you Danny mate, let’s see if the weird 3 games in a week strikes again for us with surprising results.

Speaking to BBC Sport, following a single-goal defeat at home to Southampton, he [Dyche] added: "We have been very unfortunate with injuries. We are stretched. The players are giving me everything. I've mentioned it for a number of months now - it's down to the chairman and the board to make those decisions." (26 September 2020)

Burnley's winless start, following a 3-0 reverse to Frank Lampard's Chelsea at Turf Moor, has them stuck at the bottom of the table after their opening six games but manager Sean Dyche said there is no question of his team panicking.

"I don't panic in general, to be honest, I'm not that sort of fella," he said. "I don't think panicking will change anything. I think structure, organisation and hard work, that may change things." (31 October 2020)

Burnley v Brighton 0-0
Burnley boss Sean Dyche was happy his team were able to avoid defeat, although he conceded that they need to start winning games if they are to avoid relegation. "I thought the mentality was right and we looked more like ourselves with our defensive shape and urgency," Dyche said.

"We know we have to create better chances, but it's a base to build on. We're never a million miles away but we need to get on the right side of margins and it needs to happen quickly." (6 November 2020)

Burnley 1-0 Crystal Palace

"Nick made a good save in the first half but that one at the end was brilliant. But he is a top keeper," said Dyche, who was relieved at finally claiming three points. "We were showing signs. That's three clean sheets in the last five games and tonight we altered how we were operating in the attacking third," he added. "We created two or three golden chances, we take one and it gets a bit nervy because we hadn't found that first win so to get that one done will do us the world of good". (23 November 2020)

Burnley 1-1 Everton
"We created some good chances and look like an effective unit. I thought you saw a reaction from the group to try and get a result. (5 December 2020)

Dyche will be well aware Clarets need to address their away form if they are to be the ones remaining in the top flight, having not won on the road in the competition since May.

The good news is that Dyche's Burnley side ended up in 17th place, having won 10 matches, and with a total of 39 points, 11 points clear of 3rd from bottom side Fulham.

Thanks for spotting my... erm... deliberate error. You're quite right. It is the 16th, between Arsenal and Chelsea.

Question is whether he is good enough, though!

I've lost interest in the club – there's only so much shite you can watch – especially when it's served up every game!

He is, however, as far as possible from the image most Evertonians cherish of a young, up-and-coming manager. He would not be a popular hire among the fans -- not that he or Friedkin would care.

You would have to repair the wood rot or the house would internally fall down. in footballing terms, fall into the Championship. You eradicate the problem ASAP.

Dyche is way short of what we'd like but he's doing what he's always done with clubs with hardly any even quite good players at his disposal (Burnley aside for a season or two – they reached Europe after all).

The prospective new owner/s will see survival this season as the necessity. The next month or two may give cause for re-assessment by us and them.

In the meantime all the players turning up to, erm, "train", will like Dyche continue on their way to a £million net for this (and A N Other) hopeless (literally) season.

Anyone know who solely inserted this decades-long ineptitude in the first place, utterly ruining our status across the football-playing planet in his process?

Clue: It ain't Dyche, Benitez, Lampard, Silva, Allardyce, Unsworth, Ferguson, Ancelotti, Martinez, Koeman, Moyes, Smith, Royle, or Walker.