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The most obvious lesson from the dreadful years of total incompetence that saw successive breaches of P&S rules punished with unprecedented points deductions is that Everton must now learn from past mistakes in terms of getting value for money.

Abdoulaye Doucoure was the most recent in a string of eight players signed for at least £20M during Moshiri's reign who have now all left for nothing, effectively writing off £188M in transfer fees. Michael Keane is set to take that figure over £200M if he also departs this summer. 

"It's not ideal when you're paying for a player and getting no return," comments Leon Osman.

"It's been a difficult 10 years with regards to bringing players in and moving them on for a profit, but that's an awful lot of money to spend on players to see them walk away."

At least Doucoure will be remembered for something, scoring a vital goal that preserved Everton's precarious Premier League status at a critical moment in 2023.

But some others on that list represent shameful waste of the highest order, the likes of Yannick Bolasie who managed only two Premier League goals before he left for nothing after being loaned out four times. 

Although for incomprehensible profligacy in this department, no-one will equal Jean-Philippe Gbamin, who managed just two Premier League starts in an astonishing 4-year Everton 'career' that was spent mostly on the treatment table.

Of course there have been transfer successes since the more chaotic days of Moshiri's ownership. Jake O'Brien and Iliman Ndiaye, both signed last summer for initial fees of under £17M, have proven to be been prudent investments – although both purchases had to be funded by the £50M sale of Belgium international Amadou Onana to Aston Villa.

Leon Osman believes that David Moyes is up to the challenge of rebuilding an Everton squad that will be drastically reduced by a series of departures going into next season, the first at the new stadium.

"This is where we build from. Everton have had so many managers over the years and so many different styles of player who play different systems. David Moyes knows what Everton are.

"A Moyes dressing room is hard, demanding," he said. "Having spoke to a couple of the squad, they love the clarity and what he's asking of them.

"A manager has to ask for that level and he always did that when I played for him. You also look at O'Brien, who has excelled at right-back when people thought he couldn't do it. We need to make sure these people stay on the pitch."

The new recruitment structure is key to providing a much better choice of players for David Moyes to work with going forward. 

"It's time to get behind the new hierarchy and I expect they would lean into Moyes' experience as much as they can. I trust David Moyes more than anyone."

Based on material from BBC Sport


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Steve Brown
1 Posted 21/06/2025 at 09:27:17
The original article at BBC Sports explains why we need a professional leadership structure in place.

We need to increase revenue to spend more on the playing squad, and we can do that by increasing our commercial income. So I'm pleased if that is Kinnear's key selling point.

Kevin Molloy
2 Posted 21/06/2025 at 14:28:11
And what is this, if not the first of many salvos from the Moyes camp to Angus 'two managers' Kinnear to stay in your lane and let the professionals get on with their job.
James Newcombe
3 Posted 21/06/2025 at 15:19:57
It was initially exciting seeing all these signings coming in wasn’t it?! Sigurdsson and Pickford for example.

I guess agents saw us coming with the kind of contracts we were handing out.

Richard Duff
4 Posted 21/06/2025 at 15:26:11
That's a great point, James (3), we were certainly a soft touch for agents who couldn't believe their luck having to “negotiate“ with the utter lemons we had easily spending someone else's money!

At the very least, the new guys will have the right boundaries between roles so that agents will have to convince not 1 but at least 3 of them, and all will be emotionless cold-blooded negotiators.

Martin Berry
5 Posted 21/06/2025 at 15:27:42
It makes you feel comforted by realizing about all the previous mistakes that were made, and the satisfaction that this will never happen again... and it won't.

In TFG we have serious owners who are showing that already with the backroom signings, and that at last we have owners who know what they're doing.

Building from the bottom up with impressive CVs sitting in the important chairs for Everton.

Liam Mogan
6 Posted 21/06/2025 at 15:50:02
Its going to be a big transition moving into the new stadium. Could be difficult.

It'll be a lot easier though if we get some signings to improve us over the next month, get a couple of wins at home and a bit of momentum.

The aim has to be making it a fortress and the next stage of recruitment is huge. We need to get it right.

Nick Riddle
7 Posted 21/06/2025 at 15:52:18
The BBC article that inspired this post identifies the eight players that make up the £188 million in transfer fees.

I'm not going to list them, but there's one obvious omission that makes the final total significantly higher. Gylfi Sigurðsson, signed for £40M in 2017, left for nothing in 2022.

Paul Kossoff
8 Posted 21/06/2025 at 16:49:06
Another hatchet job by the BBC on Everton, and the Sky media get, Osman, having another go.

He would be collecting glasses if it wasn't for Everton. Everything that comes out of his mouth regarding Everton should be positive. We don't need ex-players sticking the boot in. Just wait for Calvert-Lewin to put his tuppenceworth in if he goes, handbags at dawn me thinks.

Eddie Dunn
9 Posted 21/06/2025 at 17:04:27
Most players that sign for a big fee, sign because they are already players that either have huge potential or are already quality players.

That they are worth nothing merely reflects that, after 5 years or so, most are worth a lot less.

Liam Mogan
10 Posted 21/06/2025 at 17:13:35
I agree, Eddie. Not one of the players in the article were 'let go for free' in reality. That suggests we could have got fees for them.

There were just not good enough or injuries ruined their chances. They were actually not worth a transfer fee and we did not want to keep them.

Ed Prytherch
11 Posted 21/06/2025 at 17:58:19
Do we really know who was in charge of negotiating player transactions?

It appears that Koeman's overwhelming desire for Gylfi caused us to pay so much for him and at the same time Kenwright's desire to bring back the prodigal son Rooney resulted in paying a huge wage by Everton standards.

The kicker was that they both played in the same position. Moshiri wanted Sam so badly that he bought Tosun and Walcott for him, both at inflated prices, but who the hell wanted Gbamin?

With so many fingers in the pie, there was no point in hiring Marcel Brands as other people went around him.

The TFG structure looks much better.

Barry Williams
12 Posted 21/06/2025 at 18:36:59
Ed Prytherch - 11

Gbamin - I think he was a Silva signing.

Yes, loads of money wasted - but really unlucky with injuries to Bolasie, Gbamin and Mina was forever in and out of the team injured - and what happened to Sigurdsson was borderline criminal - he was proven innocent I believe - or never charged!

Tosun was another - forever injured.

Andrew James
13 Posted 21/06/2025 at 20:02:23
#Barry @11

Wasn't he a Brands signing in reality when Gana left for PSG?

But things started looking weird when Delph was also bought to play in the same position. Delph didn't fit the profile of the direction we were going in under Silva with Bernard, Gylfi, Richie and Walcott forming a front four. Unless it was to over-compensate for the recently crocked Gomes?

Eddie Palin
14 Posted 21/06/2025 at 20:38:42
I don't know why you would want to attack Ossie, Paul. He is just giving his opinion.

I must admit, I think he makes a lot of sense — just my opinion.

Jack Convery
15 Posted 21/06/2025 at 20:46:06
Kevin @2.

If you are right, then our new structure, already has a split in it.

I hope you are wrong. Singing from the same hymn sheet is imperative.

Barry Williams
16 Posted 21/06/2025 at 20:56:28
Andrew James

That I could not answer mate, but the signings did start getting all a bit weird around this period. Very haphazard.

But I am pretty sure that Silva was the manager at the time, or whatever title he was given!

Mike Gaynes
17 Posted 21/06/2025 at 21:02:52
Jack, don't bite on that hook too deep. Kevin has had a hard one for Kinnear since before he actually got off the train from Leeds. Doesn't like anything he has said or done from the moment his butt hit the office chair, and not much of it is based on fact, just feelings and speculation.

Those negative waves will keep coming.

Phil Roberts
18 Posted 21/06/2025 at 21:26:27
Gbamin is a tough one for me. He was Gana's replacement and I think came with a decent pedigree.

Got badly injured in the first couple of games, then injured again before he could return and simply he lost whatever he had when we signed him. I think slagging him off as a bad signing is unfair as we do not know how good/bad he was because of a series of injuries for the first time in his career.

Ed Prytherch
19 Posted 21/06/2025 at 21:39:40
Phil,

Maybe I got it wrong but I thought that he was ungrateful for everything that Everton had done for him and that he did not want to play. His contract was terminated at his request.

Liam Mogan
20 Posted 21/06/2025 at 21:42:57
Gbamin was on big wages wasn't he and the club quite happy to cancel his contact given PSR issues? That's what I remember?

I think he knew he was nowhere near the level anymore.

Les Callan
21 Posted 21/06/2025 at 22:33:33
Eddie @14. I agree with you.
Mark Murphy
22 Posted 21/06/2025 at 23:03:40
Sorry, late to this as I've been playing cricket.

Paul K - what's that about? I can't see anything wrong with what Ossie has said?

“Sky media get”?

He's our defender in that nest of vipers. Tells it how it is but I've never thought he dissed us.

Brendan McLaughlin
23 Posted 21/06/2025 at 23:07:51
"Sorry, late to this as I've been playing cricket."

Seriously... WTF?

Mark Murphy
24 Posted 21/06/2025 at 23:09:14
“Seriously”?
Mark Murphy
25 Posted 21/06/2025 at 23:11:20
I’m 66 mate - I can only play football in cool temperatures, ie, winter.
Mark Murphy
26 Posted 21/06/2025 at 23:20:15
And unlike you I’m not hard enough for hurling.
Brendan McLaughlin
27 Posted 21/06/2025 at 23:31:20
Ha ha Mark #24 through to 26...FFS!

The only hurling I do now at my age is down the toilet.

Wasn't having a go... just a not funny quip.

To be fair, I have previous.

Mark Murphy
28 Posted 21/06/2025 at 23:39:31
No probs, Brendan. I find it amusing how people diss cricket. I've spent more time in A&E due to being hit by a cricket ball than ever in 50 years playing footie!

Stopped playing cricket at 18 to shag myself around Spain and rediscovered it 10 years ago only to find I'm like a sextuagenarian Jimmy Anderson and actually still fucking decent and picking up awards.

I'd love to bowl an over at Rob Halligan! I'd make him fucking dance and duck!

Love it, but I miss eleven-a-side footy.

Paul Kernot
29 Posted 21/06/2025 at 00:04:14
Martin #5.

Yeah, and we're still here in the Premier League. Had we been relegated, and we came damn close on more than one occasion, there'd have been no TFG, the council would have been correct that the stadium likely wouldn't have been finished – not by us at least. Let's start there and build from now as Ossie says.

On another note, my recollection is that we paid closer to $50M for Siggi.

Kevin Molloy
30 Posted 22/06/2025 at 01:14:47
it's not negativity for negativity's sake, Mike, I was made up when the Friedkins took over from the du Ponts. They are obviously intelligent corporate financiers, and have, like Farhad, picked Everton up for a relative bargain.

But I think their knowledge of what it takes to cut it in the Premier League so far is sadly lacking. They've thought:

"Great, now what do we do? We know next to nothing about the Premier League, we need a safe pair of hands to guide Everton back to the top end of the table. Let's get that chap from Leeds who's been in the Championship for the last decade. He can then make a host of appointments who all will owe their loyalty to him, and he can build up a little powerbase."

And here we are. With a new flatter structure he seems to have pulled from nowhere, and we are all going 'Wow, amazing!'

Matt Traynor
31 Posted 22/06/2025 at 03:03:21
I've listened to Leon Osman plenty of times as a pundit, he's always been very positive about the club and his time there. As pundits go, there's far, far worse on the airwaves.

Moshiri's time can be described as chaotic. Top to bottom. He deserves credit for two things, getting the stadium underway and getting out of the club. He nearly managed to screw that up with the dalliance with 777 Partners.

That period around Koeman was something else though. Spending money like crazy and a lot of it on unadulterated shite. Yes, there was bad luck with injuries but we signed some real tripe for big money when no-one else seemed to be chasing them.

Mike Gaynes
32 Posted 22/06/2025 at 03:03:30
Ah, Kev, come on. You predicted he'd get on the wrong side of the fan base. Why? Your "gut vibe" and you don't like the way he talks, like his saying that he wants to make Evertonians proud. Called it a "slippery statement." (Can't figure that one out.)

And you rag on Friedkin for hiring him, again for no specific reason except what you imagine Friedkin was thinking.

If that ain't negative for negative's sake, I don't know what is.

I think most folks will wait and see how he and his hires do their jobs, but you've already decided.

Steve Brown
33 Posted 22/06/2025 at 04:58:41
A net profit of £85.5M on players transfers over the last 4 seasons. Even Burnley have a net spend of £43 million over the same period.

Goodness know how we have managed to stay in the Premier League.

Mike Gaynes
34 Posted 22/06/2025 at 05:17:12
Matt #31, Moshiri didn't just get the stadium underway. He got it done. And it's gorgeous.

Moshiri deserves full credit for hiring Dan Meis, Colin Chong and Laing O'Rourke, and for getting the financing over the line when everything went to hell.

He may have been the worst club owner imaginable, but he built something inspirational that Evertonians will be able to cherish for generations to come, and he rates full honours for it.

Danny O'Neill
35 Posted 22/06/2025 at 06:20:12
Hurling down the toilet, balls and shagging. Overshare!!!

I think Leon has always been reasonable about Everton and his words in this interview are just honest, in my opinion. Stating what a lot of us have done. When it sounds like he's been critical in the past, he is airing frustration, like we all do.

My only disappointment with Leon is that he didn't move into coaching.

Steve Brown
36 Posted 22/06/2025 at 07:23:21
This is a good watch - nice lad.

How This White Lotus Star Became An Everton Fan

Can't believe Ped missed Dolph Lundgren and Michael B Jordan from his list of Evertonians.

Peter Moore
37 Posted 22/06/2025 at 09:16:30
I think Moshiri, through his kinship with the likes of Kia Joorachabin, thought he had an 'in' to stars of the imminent future. But they just played him as a fool. Hopefully TFG, and the men they trust to act on their behalf, are far more professional and capable.

Due to TFG's experience with Roma, they are not as green as Moshiri (though he was closely aligned with Usmanov of course, so who the main decision maker of those two was is open to question).

I suspect the murky situation with Usmanov is why the Premier League were so keen to relegate us with the exceptional points deductions. How good all that shite is now in the past.

What a massive summer this is. If Karma shines on our amazing base of passionate support, we should all be smiling on 1 September.

Edward Rogers
38 Posted 22/06/2025 at 09:42:27
Paul Kossoff @8 & others,

Why does nearly every thread have to have a 'dig' at Calvert-Lewin?

I have never heard him utter a bad word against Everton... not ever. Not even when he was booed off for having the temerity to get injured trying to score a goal. I would love nothing more than for him to make everyone eat their words next season, preferably with us.

Ian Bennett
39 Posted 22/06/2025 at 09:50:29
Agree Peter. Look at the squad Moshiri inherited, and look at it after.

The guy was a joke. Thank god he got the stadium done.

Si Cooper
40 Posted 22/06/2025 at 10:17:05
Short memories on display.

Most of these signings were more like even bet gambles than the dead cert losers people are now able to moan about.
The aim was obviously to spend big and hope the players had enough quality to bounce us into contention for European football. You can't really judge those who then suffered major debilitating injury.

Mark, you gave up cricket at 18 to shag around Spain and returned to the game at 60? So many questions…. Was it a solid 42 years of shagging in Spain?…. Do the senoritas have a particular aversion to cricket or cricketers?

Raymond Fox
41 Posted 22/06/2025 at 10:34:02
Peter @ 37, Moshiri employed 'experts' to find the players, he only signed the cheques.

I think we have a better chance of signing the right players with Moyes as manager but we will still be shopping in the next best category of players. The top of the league teams get first choice.

It's going to be tough, I want to be optimistic but I have reservations.

Brian Harrison
42 Posted 22/06/2025 at 10:59:19
Whether it was Ossie's comments or the BBC article, which I haven't read, they are both correct. The money we have lost on players allowed to walk out the door for nothing has been criminal, and even more so when you think that, had we sold any of those allowed to walk for free, we might not have transgressed the P&S rules.

We definitely need a structure which doesn't allow players to run down their contracts and leave for free, Calvert-Lewin a prime case; when he refused the deal that was put in front of him, we should have sold him.

Mind, I accept that players these days hold all the cards. When nearing their final 2 years, they can stay put and advise their agent to get the best signing-on fee from another club.

Though where Calvert-Lewin might have a big problem is his injury record; while clubs may save a bit on transfer fees, they will have to consider how few games he has played in the last couple of seasons.

Laurie Hartley
43 Posted 22/06/2025 at 12:19:53
Mike # 32 - everything you said about Moshiri is correct in my opinion.
Kev Johnson
44 Posted 22/06/2025 at 12:24:24
Hmm, I'm not sure about all this. I feel an article coming on...
Si Cooper
45 Posted 22/06/2025 at 14:06:07
Brian (42), when most of these signings were made P&S rules were pretty much an empty threat.
The pandemic, sanctions against Usmanov and pressure for proper regulation from the Government came at just the wrong time for us.
Frank Wolfe
46 Posted 23/06/2025 at 06:08:10
Great link, Steve (36). Top lad. Love his enthusiasm.
Mark Murphy
47 Posted 23/06/2025 at 09:22:56
Ha ha ha - Simon, or as they say in Spain, ja ja ja...

No, after a couple of years I was shagged out and stupidly married a Danish rep in 1986 (it lasted 18 months - they don't do monogamy, the Danes...) and then I grew up. I was back in UK by 1998, properly married this time with 3 kids on the way.

I just didn't get back into cricket until my Vets footy manager suggested I try cricket again. Probably due to my alarming deterioration of pace at left back...

On Moshiri - A+ for the stadium. D- for the footballing side. Dyche, Allardyce and especially Benitez are stains on our history.

Kevin Molloy
48 Posted 23/06/2025 at 10:38:22
Brian,

Yes, he'd have been better off accepting the contract we put in front of him months ago, but he got greedy. So sad, never mind, off he jolly well pops.

Danny O'Neill
49 Posted 23/06/2025 at 11:54:30
Mark, I can't match your Spanish and Danish encounters.

Not the same, but as well as my rubbish marriage proposal, the day she went for routine injections (living in Cyprus at the time), I got a phone call asking her to meet outside work.

She broke the news that we were expecting.

Well, in my usual unorthodox style with women, the first thought and words that came out of my head?

"But you only went for injections. How did that happen?".

She walked off. I was in the sin bin.

I agree with you on Moshiri Mark. We've said it time and time over. He was naive and gave his money to the wrong people. Apart from the stadium. He delivered on that.

These new owners will be totally different. I don't think there will be much sentiment involved. They've got their foothold in the English Premier League and are probably aiming high. Well, I hope they are, because I am.

Not to the upper stand of the South Stand. That looks steeper than some of the ski slopes I navigate.

Colin Crooks
50 Posted 24/06/2025 at 10:21:37
Edward @38,

He is very likely to be gone soon. Then it won't matter.

Ryan Holroyd
51 Posted 24/06/2025 at 10:37:10
I'm not a Calvert-Lewin hater, like some, but I'm sick of hearing about him.

One more week and then it'll all be over.

Danny O'Neill
52 Posted 24/06/2025 at 10:59:11
Ryan, it's being discussed, because it is probably going to be a decision that determines whether we bring in another striker or not.

I won't be disappointed if he stays. I probably won't be if he moves on and will wish him well.

As you say, we'll know by the weekend. Next Monday at the latest.

Mark Murphy
53 Posted 24/06/2025 at 11:01:18
Personally I hope Calvert-Lewin stays.

I think he's a very good footballer and I'd rather we spent the money on other areas – especially right wing.

Brian Williams
54 Posted 24/06/2025 at 11:37:42
Hear hear Mark.
Ryan Holroyd
55 Posted 24/06/2025 at 13:26:56
I'm bored of him Danny.

He's clearly leaving and I for one can't wait.

I'm sick of hearing about him. Hardly plays, terrible finisher in the whole

And before Colin Crooks pipes up, I couldn't care less about his off-field activities by the way.

I do care he can't hit a cow's arse with a banjo most of the time.

Jeff Spiers
56 Posted 28/06/2025 at 19:08:03
Paul. We could have done with Leon. At least he would have put a shift in. A lot more than what we've seen over the years.

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