Everton 1 - 2 Liverpool
Everton looked to really Liverpool in the first-ever Merseyside derby at Hill Dickinson Stadium today in a clash of huge significance in the race for Europe after Everton slipping down to 10th in the Premier League table after other results this weekend.
But it played out much as so many derbies before... the pre-match hype that we could beat them thrown back in our faces yet again by poor mistakes and a failure to take some half-decent chances.
Regent Road is packed to the walls with Blues welcoming the team coach in a blaze of blue flares amidst the wonderful spring sunshine on this hugely auspicious day for Everton and the Hill Dickinson Stadium.
Everton are without Jack Grealish but Charly Alcaraz finally returns to the bench after his myster injury, while Liverpool say they are missing at least half-a-dozen first-team players.
David Moyes sticks with the same team that drew 2-2 at fellow European-chasers Brentford last weekend.
First Half
Everton kicked off with Dewsbury-Hall's up and under conceding possession straight away. Most of the early play was down the Everton left, with the Blues getting the first free-kick Garner's delivery headed out meekly by Tarkowski.
Some great work from Beto got the crowd going, Ndiaye trying to benefit, but Garner crossing in, and Beto a great header, saved well by Marmite. Beto was played in well by McNeil but slipped as he tried to pivot his giant frame.
Liverpool got the first corner, headed away very well at the near post by Beto. Gaan had his feet swept away from under him by Gravenberch but no yellow... no surprise.
A brilliant ball forward to Dewsbury-Hall saw the Everton player shoved to the ground by Roberston -- no penalty... no surprise.
At least when Gana went down rather easily, a free-kick was given, Dewsbury-Hall, firing in a great delivery but Marm passed it behind for a corner only the offical flagged for offside and
Beto got away from Konate and had just to get it on target but his effort was utterly abysmal. What an absolute joke he can be! McNeil was next to wiggle through but the sting was taken out of his shot, and Liverpool came forward to win another corner. It was a good delivery, but Pickford watched it all the way.
Everton were standing off a little in midfield, Gakpo given space to unleash a shot that Tarkowski had to defelct behind for another Liverpool corner, Pickford palming it behind. From the other side Branthwaite masterfully headed it clear.
A poor foul by Van Dijk from behind taking out Gana caused great anger, especially to Pickford, who was stupidly booked for his troubles -- no surprise.
More fruity Red Shite tackles drew ire when Szoboszlai went after Garner. The free-kick was reworked and McNeil curled in a good cross for Tarkowski. who was pushed as he headed it.. but no fould... no surprise.
It was worked around again after a throw-in, O'Brien advancing and crossing, the ball falling to Iliman Ndiaye who smashed it into the Liverpool net. But np less than five Everton players had been ambling back as the ball was played forward by Pickford and had not got back onside early in the move and it was ruled out for O'Brien being offside... no surprise.
It had really been all Everton p to this point but after a terrible pass backwards by McNeil, Gakpo's pass sliced open the Everton defence that had been playing well, Salah all alone to fire past Pickford... You guessed it: no surprise.
The nasty pushes and shoves continued from the hated locals, with no sanction offered from Kavanagh. Everton got forward again but Ndiaye lost the ball far too easily.
Mykolenko's cross was put behind for their first corner, Garner's decent delivery headed clear. But it was worked back in and Beto contested the ball, Roberston going down as a coming together, and of course a free-kick to Liverpool... no surprise.
Ndiaye was sandbagged by three reds but their attack was repelled until Gakpo got forward and tried to curl one under the bar, tipped over by Pickford. The corner was cleared and Everton tried to advance again but just weren't getting it together, the goal having knocked the stuffing out of them.
With 2 minutes of added time, it looked like Everton would need to seriously regroup if they were going to lift a glove to the visitors, with Isak free to fire a low shot at Pickford. Szoboszlai was next to have a pop, deflected high and into Pickford's arms.
At the other end, McNeil couldn't sort his feet out for a snapshot that bobbled wide to end a hugely anti-climactic half after 28 minutes of excellent football from Everton had seen them dominate the early going, but with no reward. For long-time derby sufferers... no surprise there.
Second Half
Liverpool restarted and slowed the game way down to frustrate the Blues efforts to turn this around. But Gana did force a turnover and Ndiaye should have done far better with his cross, which sailed over Beto.
O'Brien did well to stall Gakpo and win a free-kick. Everton tried to build but Dewsbury-Hall lost the ball. Ndiaye battled to retain possession but the rest of the tean had little idea how to penetrate the Liverpool defence and Branthwaite had to be quick to stop Gakpo get forwad.
Liverpool did get a free-kick that Mykolenko headed away. But from an inocuous move down the left, Dewsbury-Hall suddenly accelerated and put in a first-time cross that Beto (55') converted perfectly at the near post under strong pressure from a red defender.
Mamardashvili collided with Beto in goalscoring the move (surely enough to have the Everton goal scrubbed out?) and he was stretchered off, replaced by Woodman.
Gravenberch had a snapshot that squirmed wide. McNeil got into some space but overhit his shot beyond the top corner. Liverpool got behind the Everton defence, Salah crossing to Gagpo in acres of space, Tarkowski heading clear off the line behind Pickford.
It was more open and end-to-end until Everton were flagged offside. Beto did brilliantly to hold onto the ball but Dewsbury-Hall overhit his deep cross straight to Woodman.
A poor defensive moment almost gifted Liverpool a second but it was rescued buy Branthwaite.
Ndiaye brought down a long punt forward, and drove in but shot from a tight angle straight at Wodman. At the other end, Robertson was allowed to stride forward and shoot across goal.
Ndiaye and McNeil battled for possession, Mykolenko with a long throw, then a cross, then another cross but Beto and Konate clashed heads. McNeil got the restart but the cross came to nothing. Beto went down again, suffering from the earlier knock. Slot made changes while Barry replaced Beto.
Some crazy lofted balls forward look to cause Liverpool trouble, one saw Dewsbury-Hall get around Konate who then floored him. But no penalty... no surprise. Dewsbury-Hall created more space for Ndiaye but Barry failed to anticipate the cross.
George came on and showed some nice skill in trapping a cross, but his delivery was flawed and Liverpool were given another chance to come forward. Gakpo fouled Branthwaite with impunity and returned the ball to Gravenberch who shot over. Branthwaite was struggling with his hamstring after that and went down in distress before ominously being stretched off, Keane on in his place.
The game had been disrupted by the stoppages and concentration was a problem, George unable to get around Szoboszlai as 11 minutes were added on. Could Everton refocus and get the winner?
Liverpool put together a couple of threatening moves, Szoboszlai winning a late corner. And who else but Van Dijk headed the winner unopposed. A shocking end to yet another horrible derby.
Play continued for sme more minutes, Garner the first player booked for a foul after all those from the dirty bastards who win again as usual... no surprise there, unfortunately.
Everton: Pickford [Y:22'], O'Brien, Tarkowski, Branthwaite (87' Keane), Mykolenko, Gana, Garner, McNeil (80' George), Dewsbury-Hall, Ndiaye, Beto (73' Barry).
Subs: Travers, Patterson, Dibling, Alcaraz, Röhl, Iroegbunam.
Liverpool: Mamardashvili (58' Woodman); Jones, Konate, Van Dijk, Robertson; Gravenberch, Szoboszlai ; Salah, Wirtz (83' Mac Allister), Gakpo (83' Frimpong); Isak (72' Ngumoha).
Subs: Pecsi, Kerkez, Chiesa, Nyoni.
Attendance: 52,585
Reader Comments (166)
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2 Posted 19/04/2026 at 13:08:37
3 Posted 19/04/2026 at 13:23:26
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4 Posted 19/04/2026 at 13:29:30
I think our servers should be able to handle the load better than they are.
5 Posted 19/04/2026 at 13:30:00
6 Posted 19/04/2026 at 13:31:16
That is a question, when every inch cost us more money, why the hell did we go for a pitch bigger than Goodison? Since when have we ever played well on a big pitch?
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7 Posted 19/04/2026 at 13:33:04
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8 Posted 19/04/2026 at 13:33:13
Footnote. please answer my dreams and prayers!
9 Posted 19/04/2026 at 13:33:37
10 Posted 19/04/2026 at 13:38:58
11 Posted 19/04/2026 at 13:41:33
Having a significantly larger pitch is odd though. Hopefully we get the job done. I suspect another draw, however.
12 Posted 19/04/2026 at 13:55:55
Can you please save the ‘ffs' for when (if) we concede rather than for when Beto falls over fresh air or Gueye hits Row Z with a shot.
Thanks in advance!
13 Posted 19/04/2026 at 13:56:56
Moyes can show his detractors (myself included) that he has shaken off years of an inferiority mindset. Good luck to the boys in blue.
15 Posted 19/04/2026 at 14:33:47
We have done more than enough to be out of sight yet here we are... losing yet again.
16 Posted 19/04/2026 at 14:42:15
It's sickening the Ref is shocking so not helping us.
17 Posted 19/04/2026 at 14:51:24
Kavanagh giving us nothing as we all expected. We can still do this but we need to take our chances.
18 Posted 19/04/2026 at 14:52:28
I hate those bastards and the soft treatment they always get from the referee.
19 Posted 19/04/2026 at 14:53:36
Ref is a red, how many times do their players need to go through the back of ours to get a card!
Give McNeil another 10 and get George on.
Come on you blues!
20 Posted 19/04/2026 at 14:53:38
Ref a disgrace but that is no surprise. Not done yet though. This team can bring it back.
21 Posted 19/04/2026 at 14:54:08
Still, we have played very well and really should have been in the lead.
Ref bottled out of 2 early yellows for Liverpool players, no surprise at all.
Maybe get George on either at half time or 60 minutes for McNeil?
22 Posted 19/04/2026 at 14:54:40
We did really well in that half and one mistake we get punished.
These games are so frustrating. When are we truly going to dominate a game against the Red Shite where we tear them apart?
23 Posted 19/04/2026 at 14:58:09
This Referee gives us nothing, waiving away a penalty as a coming together but, with the exception of handball, every free kick is a coming together. When one player barrels into another, knocking him over, and the ball is not that close, it is a foul.
And how many times do you see players move into an offside position while waiting for a free kick to be taken but nothing is given until they play the ball -- but not when they give away a corner from a keeper's save.
Then Van Dijk commits a foul and kicks the ball away but Pickford gets carded for complaining.
Then the silly goal. What was McNeil doing passing back to nobody? Then Branthwaite being pulled out of the middle and Mykolenko nowhere near Salah!
And Moyes, please tell Beto to hit a few more first time rather than playing dummies that seem to only fool himself.
And for most of the half, we were the better team.
24 Posted 19/04/2026 at 15:00:53
Then, 2 minutes later, a careless ball 40 yards from goal, but then 2 seconds later, we're a goal down.
And then they get their tails up and start knocking it around for 10 minutes in their own half whilst we have to chase after them in the heat.
What a bad joke.
25 Posted 19/04/2026 at 15:02:39
He did the same on James, it's completely deliberate. Shitbag.
27 Posted 19/04/2026 at 15:33:48
Chance for Barry to become a cult hero though and seek redemption at its finest!
COYBB!!
28 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:00:33
29 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:02:48
30 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:02:50
31 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:03:45
We played well today and deserved at least a draw.
Barry needs to go in the summer. No effort or anything. Nowhere near good enough. Beto at least looks like he cares.
32 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:03:45
33 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:03:59
His injury changed the outcome.
34 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:04:01
Every blue in the world could see what was about to happen!! Why couldn't our own captain and vice captain?!?!?
35 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:05:08
Usual corrupt shit.
36 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:07:04
Did we test their third-choice keeper, at all?
37 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:07:16
One fears that Branthwaite's season is over. As good a ‘Rolls-Royce' of a player he may be, he is a luxury we can't afford.
It was a strange game, Everton played well in patches, but at many times it felt like Everton's midfield were hesitant to attack the ball.
On the overall balance of the game, we did not deserve to win it.
38 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:08:08
When he went off, I thought Moyes made the mistake of putting Barry on who did absolutely nothing. My choice given how Beto had troubled them for pace would have been George as centre-forward.
And with Branthwaite going off, we were going to be in trouble as I didn't think Tarkowski was having much of a game and there was little challenge for the goal as even the corner seemed to be through tiredness.
A game we didn't deserve to lose.
39 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:09:14
Just ask Jill Dando.
40 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:11:46
Tarkowski and Pickford should have done a lot better for Van Dijk's goal, a free header, season over. I have to say, Barry was an embarrassment, has to be sold in the summer.
41 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:19:18
The Ref was their best player, again.
42 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:19:48
Loads of ifs and buts, but unfortunately the Reds are serial winners and string Moyes up like a Kipper for most games in his 13 years of derbies (and Everton in the past 38 years).
Why did we not go for it when the 3rd keeper came on?
We just cannot get over the line to the next level. Yet again another first - first season in new stadium and 2 Liverpool defeats.
Mindset has to change, or we will never win anything again.
Oh, Barry is gash, awful player. Worst striker I've seen at Everton, and we've had more than our fair share of dross.
43 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:20:12
You just knew Everton wouldn't take advantage of the Brentford draw and you just knew Salah would score in his last derby match.
Add to that the usual bad officiating, injuries and late goal that we have all seen before which left us wondering did we deserve to lose to RS yet again??
There just ain't no justice!!
44 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:21:37
Beto going off shouldn't have affected it but, either way, with Branthwaite and Beto still in there, there's no way Van Dijk scores the easiest goal of his career... in a derby.
Fuck!
45 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:25:11
Gutted
46 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:25:21
Poxy club. Now we've got to put up with all the smug faces... I really do hate that club.
47 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:25:41
Beto done well till the injury. I thought we deserved a draw but that's how it works for us against these bastards. We definately have an inferiority complex against them. You can't always put it down to bad luck.
Branthwaite going off certainly didn't help us as he was playing really well. He is a real concern now. He is injured far too easily. As good as he is, maybe it's time to take what we can for him. You can't build a team around players who are always out injured...
Unfortuneatly for us and him, he is one of them. He reminds me of Yeri Mina. Top player but missed far too many games.
48 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:26:45
Moyes's tactics from 15 years ago are outdated and shows his lack of bottle!! We need to get Irola in.
£65 a game to watch 7 defenders sit deep and hope Ndiaye, Dewsbury-Hall or Grealish produce a moment of magic...
49 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:28:24
Missed it due to a knee op but texted my brother at the ground and said, "I can just see what's coming here..." Lo and behold.
If Moyes does anything in the summer he's got to get rid of that Barry, by far the worst striker I've ever seen at the club, and that is really saying something.
50 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:29:45
O'Brien offside on Ili's goal, despite having a clear view across the pitch and plenty of time to get back onside. Mistake.
McNeil giveaway for their goal, under no pressure. Mistake.
Late-game injuries to Beto and Branthwaite. Jarrad was MotM and had been the one marking VVD on previous corners. Terrible luck.
And we played so well much of the game. Just a miserable outcome.
Worst of all, Jarrad suffering his third major muscle injury in 21 months has to impact the club's long-term planning. There's a grim reality there that must be faced.
51 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:32:22
He should definitely be good enough for the bench.
52 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:35:38
Like an end-of-season game with nothing hanging in the balance. A chance missed.
53 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:40:39
Unbelievable!!!
54 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:46:10
And today it's you. Shame.
55 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:47:43
Yes, we have improved under Moyes but, unless we sign excellent players, we are going nowhere. We will be the next Fulham. Stay in the Premier League and cause an upset or too. We won't match up to Top 8.
Tired of us accepting that we are a hard working and improved team. Majority of the players we have are hardworking but average players. Sickened by the way we have conceded goals.
56 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:47:51
Beto is a rough diamond. Barry is a blunt tool.
Not Dwight's day.
Our offsides were amateur level. Our disallowed goal needn't have been.
Branthwaite will be really missed.
None of the too late subs worked.
So, too many things wrong today, the outcome should not be a surprise, but it felt gutting.
Who to blame? All of them... Let's regroup when the pain has passed.
57 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:54:39
58 Posted 19/04/2026 at 16:55:11
We spend a fortune on a kid who it would appear is not fit for purpose. They bought that Hungarian for half that. Everton!
59 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:02:00
I couldn't believe how often we let them have the ball after our equaliser. Normally, when a team grabs an equaliser, the game swings; this one didn't. We remained pretty flat, we hardly tested their shite keeper.
Beto though, he's starting to show real quality. He could easily have had a hat-trick today, just getting into those positions against Van Dijk shows he's got what it takes at the top level.
Barry though, just put him on the bus right now, a one way ticket to Shitsville.
60 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:07:03
I'm sure Davey will use one of his previously bitterly disappointed derby interviews (take your pick) but deep down I'm sure he's not really arsed... He doesn't do must-win games, never has (save a 3rd tier Euro competition final). This really has put the spotlight on his limitations. This is as good as it will get from him, l think we all know that.
Barry coming on was a mistake, he has not shown anything to merit the opportunities he's had recently, he really didn't look bothered. George unfortunately never made an impact; maybe he could have been on 10 minutes earlier
Liverpool were there for the taking from my seat and we fluffed our lines again. I can't remember the 3rd choice keeper making a save except the tight angle effort (was it from Ndiaye?)
Champions League was a real possibility, that's now gone, I'm worried we will lose Branthwaite and Ndiaye in the summer. I don't think we'll have an opportunity like this for some time.
61 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:08:35
The odd good result against the like of Chelsea don't mask what Moyes is all about, every time we play a top six side he is never positive..
Time to move on, now we are stable enough to do so.
Iraola in charge we would have won this game today
62 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:09:23
The only thing missing was a couple of red cards.
63 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:10:31
64 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:14:46
Wtf is wrong with these lads? I'm halfway around the world and I could see what was going to happen, they've been trying it all game!!!!!! Why couldn't they see it???
65 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:18:21
I don't want you to make a competitive team. I expect you to want to make a winning team. As for they didn't have it all their own way ? The feckin beat us AGAIN. I don't want them being competed against at Hill Dickinson. I expect them to be beaten and broken at the final whistle and not enjoying themselves in front of the RS fans, in our own back yard. Admit it you have no clue how to play the RS, no feckin clue. They are crap.
In goal - 2 nd choice goalie gets injured, replaced by 3rd choice goalie - score 1 - 1.
They no have no RB - neither do we, by the way. Konate is shite ask any RS fan. VVD is as creaky as the Mersey Ferry that's just been decommisioned. Beto ffs gave them a torrid time. Beto ! thats how good Konate and VVD are. Their LB is being pensioned off. Salahs on his last legs, Gakpo - who ? Wirse, more like Wurzel, Gravenbach, nothing special, Curtis Jones, Doucoure's bitch, MacAllister done nothing special, Isak a shadow of the Barcodes striker, The RS have 2 good players Szobosszlia and Etitike, who didn't play. Slot, who may not be there long. So what is there to be scared of. Reputation that is all.
So let's not tell the players let's be competitive. Tell them to go out and feckem, beat and humiliate them. Enough FFS.
and that is why I am wary of giving the Moyesiah a longer contract. He is not a winner. He is an excuse maker. He has raised us from the dead but he will never make us winners and by that I mean a trophy winning team, that other teams fear.
66 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:24:50
Moyes has won only four of his 41 Premier League games against Liverpool.
Too passive and same old shite.
67 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:25:45
Fuck it, yeah, let's get Sean Dyche back. You don't win without being 'competitive'.
We were robbed today by dodgy officials. If Moyes is such a problem, why are we better now than than before? Why would we go back the way under any of the various flavour of the month managerial alternatives?
We wasted money on a bunch of kids last summer when we needed Premier League ready players. He's done as well as anyone could in the circumstances.
68 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:26:53
Like an end-of-season game with nothing to play for.
Moyes has an inferiority complex against these.
69 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:32:16
Producing a team of winners, is not something Moyes will ever be capable of. See Steve Browns post, 4 wins in 41 games against the RS. One in 10.
I gave the Moyesisah his due for bringing us back from the dead but he will take us no further.
70 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:36:47
We need a winning mentality on and off the field.
71 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:39:10
We've got no attacking full backs. Slow, past it centre-backs. Shit strikers, etc. What do you seriously expect anyone to do?
We are 1 point off of 6th place. If we somehow manage to get 6th it will be a magnificent achievement.
72 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:43:06
I have no problem with what Moyes has done with the cards he has been dealt with and it will be an achievement if we get a place in Europe.
But he's not the future and I still think the RS were there for the taking today - Wolves have beaten them!
73 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:43:20
We were in our place and it was better than even, David. You went to the bench and selected Barry and then George.
You went for the conventional choices in your most important match. Barry showed you he could not run the proper channels or maintain Beto's energy the last two times he was brought on. George needed support, not isolation.
You fucked that up, Dave. Man up and stop the money-shite talk. Giving it up that way from a corner is a fucking embarrassment. Giving it up that late is criminal.
But thanks for the gentler interpretation, Baldrick.
74 Posted 19/04/2026 at 17:45:10
75 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:02:38
Today's result was as predictable as the starting line up. We've been here so many times under this charlatan that it's embarrassing. Humiliating. Everton deserve better.
And for anyone that says, careful what you wish for, look at West Ham, look at Spurs I say piss off. Look at Villa, Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford, Sunderland.
Moyes has done a great job at stabilising us. Job done, now let us move on and try and actually win something.
76 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:03:09
Yeah, he's done really well with what's available to him but he's not a winner. Let's get someone who will do worse because they're 'winners'.
77 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:05:58
78 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:06:29
None of the teams you mentioned have won fuck all. We're level with one of them and a point behind 2 of the other 3.
Emery's doing a decent job but how is he a winner if he hasn't won anything?
79 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:10:40
He's set his bar so low over the whole of his career that 6th, 7th or 8th is absolute heaven for him.
He truly is not interested in upsetting the apple cart.
80 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:16:49
Well he still finished 4th. Every other manager since we last won the league finished lower, except Colin Harvey who also finished 4th with the then Champions of the country.
81 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:18:58
Do you think for one second he wants to be traipsing around Europe every other midweek for 8 months?
My prediction is we will miss out on any form of European competition this season but l'll be big enough to eat humble pie if he manages it.
82 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:21:50
He got West Ham in Europe a lot and won the Europa Conference League. He got us in Europe 4 years out of 11 and we've only been in Europe twice since he left.
But he doesn't want to be in Europe?
83 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:27:14
He's won the Europa League 4 times.
84 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:27:53
In Emery, Villa have hired a serial winner. In Moyes, we hired a has-been who never was.
85 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:28:20
I meant at Villa.
86 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:29:07
The man is not a winner, in fact, he posseses the two worst facets of a manager, he's both a loser and unlucky.
Me personally, l've seen enough, thank you very much.
87 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:31:29
Oh wait a minute. He's already fucked up the League Cup, the FA Cup and now the Premier League.
88 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:34:04
Getting rid of Moyes doesn't mean everything will suddenly become wonderful. It might actually get worse.
89 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:37:07
Last time l checked, Arteta's Arsenal are in the semi finals of the Champions League and they're still top of the Premier League...
l'd swap Davey for that... wouldnt you?
90 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:37:42
Let's see where we end up position-wise.
91 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:38:22
92 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:42:36
The facts are gents, the big questions have been asked in the last two games and he hasnt had the answers
Will you at least concede that?
93 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:46:05
Which multiple winner are we replacing him with?
Or are we going to get someone who has won nothing and hope. If that is the case - fine but it absolutely isn’t replacing Moyes the loser with a winner.
94 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:46:07
95 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:47:01
Personally I’ve tended to put it down to the mentality of their players compared to ours. This is not one of the great Liverpool sides, but again they will qualify for the Champions League while we will probably miss out on Europe all together.
How we could do with a group of players who are not easily intimidated- Reid, Cahill, Rooney - and for these games - Ferguson (who must have despaired at Barry’s “efforts” today).
96 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:47:56
97 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:48:19
98 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:49:53
Not worried if we miss out on Europe as this team is clearly not ready for it. Would rather continue to try for top four and attract a better caliber of player going forward.
Gutted for Branthwaite. That's him out until next season then. Need to finish the season as strong as possible.
99 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:51:43
100 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:55:55
101 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:57:17
We still have 5 games left with a decent chance of 10pts with a bit of luck.
There are no easy games but we are capable.
102 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:57:24
Lost both
103 Posted 19/04/2026 at 18:59:17
104 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:00:38
Do you think your friend has been patiently waiting all those long years to make that point?
Bet he's really pleased Moyes came back.
105 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:01:38
We were wrong.
He stuck instead of twisting
106 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:01:58
107 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:03:01
108 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:04:46
He’s a negative manager, even at West Ham, where he won the Conference League, they wouldn’t want him back.
We’ve endured 12 years of his negativity and have to put up with the Shearers of this world, telling us what a great job he’s doing.
I’m sick of him and just want to watch some good football and have the hope that we may take on the so called big teams in games that matter, like today Ffs!
We should go all out for Iraola, we’d all be looking forward to the future, not condemned to endure the inevitable under Moyes.
109 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:05:20
110 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:05:57
111 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:13:11
"Poignant"... Everton that
112 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:19:47
It’s like there’s some sort of curse on us when we play them. Unless and until we change the whole mentaiity and psyche of the club, Derby day disappointments and disasters will never change.
113 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:24:14
Massively disappointing.
We started well but the disallowed goal followed quickly by the Shite's first seemed to suck the belief out of us,
We got back into it against the run of play but both teams seemed to settle for the draw bar snatching one...the Shite snatched it.
Not sure I'd give the Moyesiah a lot of grief for this one.
114 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:29:54
Anything to make him look better eh?
115 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:32:36
116 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:34:31
My point Brendan.
A draw was good for them but not for us.
He settled for the draw and come unstuck.
117 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:36:06
118 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:38:40
119 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:39:59
120 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:42:26
Teams...the 11 guys on the pitch.
121 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:42:28
Quality wins football games, I was absolutely livid believing we had been robbed because I didn’t think it was offside, (I’d still love to see the whole picture, from when the ball left pickford’s foot - I haven’t seen anything yet) and if O’Brien, was offside, he should be fined two weeks wages!
Maybe it wasn’t his fault because he’s not a natural fullback, but that’s the issue because we matched Liverpool, all over the park today, probably had a few better players than them, but our system is rigid, it doesn’t stretch the opposition enough, and it leaves our wide players, with an enormous amount of work to do, which often leaves them lacking that vital burst of energy when it is required the most.
Not much between the teams, our subs never performed and moving N’Diaye, to the right, took him away from KDH, and we definitely needed fleshing up in the midfield, towards the end.
Liverpool have spent a lot of money but for the first time in a long time, then I think a few of our players could get into a combined eleven, so we need to go and sign a few more very good players.
122 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:44:46
You reckon David told them to play front foot, aggressive fast paced football, get in the box in numbers, and they ignored the instructions?
123 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:46:27
124 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:46:30
In a nutshell.
125 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:46:40
I thought we needed another ball player in there, but the risk with Tim or Rohl is that leaves you open.
How the fuck Vvd doesn't get booked for that challenge on Gana, is a disgrace btw.
126 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:48:36
We all think Van Dyke is finished, Tarkowski was finished 18 months ago,
Van Dyke dominated him at that corner, embarrassing from Tarkowski.
127 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:49:52
128 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:52:37
129 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:52:37
130 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:56:20
A poor liverpool side in comparison to the sides we have seen.
I thought we sat off them and let them play the slow paced square and back football they mostly played today.
A counter argument could say they were trying to draw us out, I'm not having that one.
They were wasting time from very early in the first half.
Would have liked to see the energy displayed in the Chelsea game.
131 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:56:24
132 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:59:04
I think on the whole we we’re good today. The game swung on 2 mistakes. We got no luck, as usual. Beto and Branthwaite going off cost us at least a point. Moyes has got us 1 point behind the darlings of Bournemouth and Brentford etc. The premier league has had countless managers like Ireola that can’t manage at a bigger club. Thomas Frank, Graham Potter and so on.
I usually back our players but I don’t like Thierno Barry. I don’t like his attitude and how it always turns into his travails. Sitting on the bench with head down, sulking. Sick of the melodrama. He’s spent more time preparing his goal celebration than learning how to play as a striker in this league. Giving Arsenal mates tickets. Get shut. His effort and attitude today was like playing with 10 men. Take your ego and leave, please. I’d sooner see Graham given a chance. Watch Duncan Ferguson in derby games. That is what is expected of a centre forward at this club. Beto, despite his limitations at least looks like he cares
133 Posted 19/04/2026 at 19:59:29
134 Posted 19/04/2026 at 20:04:30
Tarkowski got out hardcased by a quilt
135 Posted 19/04/2026 at 20:04:55
but state of you, 'why oh why hasn't the comment been deleted?!'
you whining little functionary.
136 Posted 19/04/2026 at 20:21:08
We can’t open up John, not with Mykolenko and O’Brien, playing fullback, and this has cost us plenty of points at home this season.
It’s okay away from home when it’s more acceptable to let the opposition come onto you but, we have lost a lot of points at home because we haven’t been able to stretch teams enough with our current personnel, and I thought today was another one of those games.
137 Posted 19/04/2026 at 20:38:42
Echoing the Monty Python Yorkshireman sketch, "You try telling that to the kids of today, and they won't believe you..."
138 Posted 19/04/2026 at 20:39:23
139 Posted 19/04/2026 at 20:39:31
by their standards are still streets ahead of us. You may not like to
hear that but it’s the truth. We won’t step up a rung with Moyes in
charge, Where is Harrison? The result paled into insignificance with
Branthwaite’s injury. He was back to his imperial best today. Please
God the Club can sort out his problem over the summer.
140 Posted 19/04/2026 at 21:03:06
You mentioned the bizarre moment when Dewsbury-Hall shoots, their keeper parries it out for a corner, but the ref says offside and gives the red fuckers a free kick! What The Fuck!?!
I don't think I have ever seen that before in my life.
141 Posted 19/04/2026 at 21:12:23
142 Posted 19/04/2026 at 21:17:22
143 Posted 19/04/2026 at 21:30:45
And had to be VVD
Moyes? Team?.Ref?
No..Just a heart breaking inevitability that makes us emotionally strong if effin' idiots.
But not my choice. My club
Grrr!
144 Posted 19/04/2026 at 21:46:20
He’s useless and I can’t wait to see the back of him. We have to get rid of Barry, Beto, McNeill, Patterson and Coleman too.
145 Posted 19/04/2026 at 21:50:51
I agree btw, we haven't got a decent full back on the books.
Obrien works his plums off out of position but not the answer
146 Posted 19/04/2026 at 22:46:56
They've often not had to do much more than turn up to win or draw.
They have sometimes thrashed us, whilst we've never thrashed them.
We have been reduced by inadequate owners, managers, players, coaches into having to accept this crap for nearly my entire 70 year life, including Howie mk.1's time.
And some still expect our non-winner owner/s, manager, coaches and players to win a trophy?
As if!
147 Posted 19/04/2026 at 00:13:21
148 Posted 19/04/2026 at 00:20:03
Very good penalty shout not even mentioned during post-game analysis on MotD. Apparently Moyes mentioned it after the game and that also failed to make the edit.
The club must demand the transcript of the conversation that has too have occurred between VAR official and the ref because the ref only indicated he considered it to be a shoulder to shoulder challenge when he didn’t give a penalty. Commentator during slow-mo replay on Sky admitted what all could see; Jones kicked the back of Dewsbury-Hall’s left leg before the upper torso contact. When much less contact 40 yards out gets you sent off for denying a goal scoring opportunity, then VAR guy has to at least confirm with ref that the foot to calf contact had actually been seen by the ref. If not then it’s a simple enough job to have a look on a pitchside monitor.
Don’t think ref would necessarily have changed his mind considering he didn’t even seem to give the Dutch thug even a bit of a finger wag for his nasty foul on Gueye.
Jake was guilty of not getting back onside quick enough for our disallowed goal, not for straying offside. He may not have expected the long ball to his flank but that is the sort of thing a top player needs to gamble on happening.
Not doing that better seemed to play on his mind as he seemed to be struggling to stay ‘in touch’ in the run up to their goal. McNeil’s clanger really exposed both fullbacks in one fell swoop.
Assistant ref was much too quick to raise his flag when he couldn’t possibly have clearly seen N’Diaye was offside in second half. Inches in that one and so you should play on until the ball goes dead.
Overall we gave them a decent challenge and they must know the small margins all went their way, including Jarrad’s unfortunate injury which shamefully got no coverage on MotD. Tarkowski got suckered into trying to fight with both of their centre backs as the corner came in whilst O’Brien was wrong side of Pickford and Keane was outrageously pre-occupied with marking space.
5 more games in which we ideally keep the improved form going and then a summer of good trading and we will be competitive enough for either of the lesser European competitions.
149 Posted 19/04/2026 at 01:01:05
Moyes hasn’t got it and never did.
He won’t change now, and if the owners have any business sense they won’t allow Mr “No shame in how we performed” to waste their investment.
150 Posted 20/04/2026 at 02:06:24
We can thank Mykolenko, McNeil and Tarkowski for their service during the relegation battles, but none of them are good enough if we want to progress as a squad.
I would like to see all 3 depart this summer.
151 Posted 20/04/2026 at 02:40:56
We should also be able to see the moment the ball leaves someone's foot… and why do 19 teams have to wait until phases of play are over to determine if it's offside or not, but when teams play the RS the linesman raises his flag quick and the ref blows, up like Ndiaye when he was supposedly offside?
I hate-watch the RS most weeks and I'm telling you now, they play under different rules than anyone else, even Man Utd… Against 18 other teams in the Premier League, Ndiaye would been allowed to play on until the play is over, then it would be checked.
But linesman always raise their flags super quick against RS opposing teams, week after week. Watch them a few times and you'll see that, when someone is through on goal against them, the refs always blow up and the lineman always flags simultaneously without any objection to each other, like it's in cahoots.
And TV never shows a replay or talk about it. And the RS players always restart play super quick after such events so that it's swept under the rug quick. All pre-planned I'm sure. They are all in cahoots over it. Also refusing to book Gravenberch etc -- it's obvious
152 Posted 20/04/2026 at 03:48:09
So tired of losing to these. It used to be bloody Ian Rush, now it's Salah and the “victim” Saint Virgil who somehow always seems to be critical in these affairs.
Moyes, O'Brien, referees…. Just so bloody predictable.
153 Posted 20/04/2026 at 06:53:22
Yet again, it is a little detail they've got right and we've got wrong. A bit like Tarkowski trying to play the ball last season, when Mac Allister was behind him, but not impacting play.
The difference is Liverpool don't fuck up those opportunities. It is why they win trophies and get into the Champions League. The players have better game intelligence.
Better players, better coaches, better standards.
Would they have Moyes? No. Would they have Tarkowski, McNeil, Gana, O'Brien, Mykolenko, Beto, Barry, George, Pickford, Keane? No
And people wonder why we lose...
154 Posted 20/04/2026 at 07:38:59
I think the system is great for frustrating the opposition and staying in the game but, when you have got to do more than this then you definitely need more output from your fullbacks, going forward.
Curtis Jones, an average midfielder playing at fullback, was allowed to get the ball down and attack, whereas Moyes, prefers to play a central defender at fullback, because he trusts him defensively.
Some people like Moyes, some people can see the good work he’s done helping to steady the ship, and some people dislike our manager. My own view is that if Everton, can go and get a few better players, and find a manager who wants to play on the front foot, then looking at that stadium yesterday, we could definitely become a major force once again.
155 Posted 20/04/2026 at 07:59:15
I sensed what was coming when the officials plucked 11 minutes added time from there arses.
We were worthy of a draw, which would have been a fair result.
156 Posted 20/04/2026 at 08:10:16
We still aren't good enough on the ball. We have some nice players in terms of Branthwaite, Garner, Dewesbury Hall and Ndiaye. Tarkowski is never seen being international class, and that is highlighted in the big games, when he plays top international players.
We have worker bees that are fine to defend, but when we fall behind, they struggle. Stats don't tell everything, but they do highlight deficiencies that the top sides don't have.
Mcneil - 15 passes all game, possession lost 10.
Obrien - pass accuracy 18 from 29, possession 62%, lost possession 13.
Mykolenko - possession lost 18 times
George - on the pitch 21 minutes, 2 passes, and 9 touches. Offside once, possession lost 4.
Barry - on the pitch 28 minutes, 9 touches, possession lost 5. Zero dribbles, shots.
The manager might have his failings, but he doesnt tell the players to not find a blue shirt or lose the ball. They've got the themselves through a decent season, but the idea these are an elite group is way off.
157 Posted 20/04/2026 at 08:41:13
I'm hoping to see a lot of changes to that side come August starting with a new back four.
Hopefully Branthwaite will be back to partner O'Brien in the middle with possibly Stones coming in to the mix.
Goodbye, Tarkowski and Keane with thanks and best wishes.
I know Beto and Branthwaite going off made a difference but Pickford, Tarkowski and Keane should not concede that close from a routine corner.
We have to keep hold of Ndiaye, Dewsbury-Hall and Garner. Rohl is obviously signed up already and Armstrong and Iroegbunam are okay for the squad.
But better quality and a win or die mentality is required if we are to approach games like this with confidence. They were nothing special today and we didn't find the edge to take the game.
Lastly, I hope Barry and George don't get another minute this season and go in the summer. Barry checked out weeks ago but I had high hopes for George based on what I'd seen in his cameos so far and was dismayed at his half-arsed performance yesterday.
158 Posted 20/04/2026 at 08:46:40
😂 😂 Anywhere?
159 Posted 20/04/2026 at 08:55:40
We will have to agree to disagree, mate.
I thought we played a much higher tempo against Chelsea.
160 Posted 20/04/2026 at 09:06:40
And why the fuck was he tugging at Pickford’s shirt????
161 Posted 20/04/2026 at 09:07:34
I genuinely don't think I've ever seen us playing with a real high tempo in many of them!
162 Posted 20/04/2026 at 09:11:31
I thought they came to not get beat yesterday and we joined in with them.
163 Posted 20/04/2026 at 09:33:31
Looking forward, Barry is not up to it, McNeil can go. Buy a proper right full back ffs and stop playing people out of position.
Dropping from 8th to 10th as results went against us, is a reality check and it will be interesting to see how the owners and board react regarding their ambitions for the club.
164 Posted 20/04/2026 at 10:33:02
Neither team deserved to win and Liverpool seemed happy to get a point of the game until Branthwaite was carried off, they played with more fight and confidence after that,
Branthwaite had been excellent while he was on, anticipating their every move as well as playing some good passes forward, he read the game so well while the other three defenders and the goalie looked illiterate with their game.
I thought it was a penalty on KDH, was it looked at on VAR?
The biggest mistake, for me, was Pickford not coming for the ball just before Branthwaite was injured, Jarred was shielding the ball and gave a glance at Pickford waiting for him to come and get the ball but he stayed on his line when it was his ball all day long, we’ll pay the price of that injury for the rest of the season.
I thought Moyes should have strengthened the midfield around the 70 minute mark with players tiring there but hindsight is a wonderful thing and Moyes hasn’t got that obviously along with a few other things.
I thought Branthwaite Ndiaye and Garner had great games for us with KDH playing well but making the wrong move too often although he did very well for laying the goal on.
165 Posted 20/04/2026 at 11:41:06
Our two substitutions offered absolutely nothing (not Keane) and Jake O'Brien should never have been offside when he crossed for Ndiaye to score.
Would a natural full-back have been caught offside? I doubt it myself but the manager can't really lay any blame on Jake because he's not really a natural fullback.
Going onto the positives, even though I'll begin with a negative but I'd have hauled O'Brien off the pitch for not staying onside because there's no way Liverpool would have come from behind, yesterday.
The stadium was unreal, watching the whole ground going absolutely berserk when Ndiaye scored was a beautiful picture! When the goal was disallowed, it definitely took the wind out of our sails.
It would have been lovely to win but, but we are where we are, an improving mid-table team with some very good young footballers now. We need a braver manager and we need more of those better players because we have got a stadium full of passionate people just waiting for Everton to really get themselves going again.
166 Posted 20/04/2026 at 12:10:20
If you're happy with that... then crack on. If you want a chance of success, then he isn't our man.
167 Posted 20/04/2026 at 15:26:11
One criticism I do have though is Pickford's insistence in kicking long. It does not have to happen so often.
168 Posted 20/04/2026 at 19:47:28
Was the fact that, if we had won the game, we would have gone ahead of Chelsea in the table, a factor in his poor effort?
Just asking...
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1 Posted 19/04/2026 at 13:05:35
But a massive test of David Moyes and what he is really made of today.
ps: Site seems painfully slow at the moment... apologies.