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Hull City have made a ‘formal offer’ for Everton midfielder Tim Iroegbunam.
The newly-promoted side have been linked with Iroegbunam since sealing their return to the Premier League, with Hull in search of a defensive midfielder to boost their squad.
Hull had pursued Burnley midfielder Florentino Luís last month, but the deal fell through when the player opted for a move to Ipswich Town instead.
Iroegbunam is now in their sights with The Bobble reporting that a formal bid has been submitted by The Tigers.
The 23-year-old made 17 league starts for Everton last season, but has seen midfield competition increased by the arrivals of Hayden Hackney and Christian Norgaard. With Harrison Armstrong also impressing in pre-season, Everton could sanction Iroegbunam’s sale should a suitable offer arrive.
Hull’s opening bid is unspecified, though it’s understood that Everton value the player at between £15m and £20m. Iroegbunam signed for Everton from Aston Villa for a fee of around £9m in 2024.
Earlier this week, Hull boss Sergej Jakirovic told BBC Radio Humberside that the club were making progress in a deal for Iroegbunam.
"I think there is progress in this player," he said.
"I like how he is playing and he is very experienced. I think we need this profile for a midfielder and I hope we will sign him.
"But, we will see. It could be a loan or permanent transfer. There is a lot of exchanging. He is in the last year of his contract which is an advantage for us."
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Mal van Schaick
2 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:05:15
2 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:05:15
As long as we improve on him with a decent signing, fair enough. Tavernier is on the radar and this could be a sell to fun that transfer.
Paul Hewitt
3 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:08:44
3 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:08:44
Would be sad to see him go. I think in a few years he will be a cracking player. But we are well stocked with CM so letting him go would be best.
Chris James
4 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:12:28
4 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:12:28
I don't think we should do this unless its a decent fee and/or genuinely unlocks another signing.
Tim has not necessarily set the world alight and he's had a few bad games, but he's had some good games too, and he's a decent defensive body in the midfield where we have also lost Gueye, where Garner is currently coming back from injury AND having to deputise at right back.
The flipside is we signed Hackney and Norgaard, so perhaps there is sufficient cover in DM, and perhaps Tim going means more minutes for more attacking mids like Armstrong, Alcaraz, etc"
Obviously the same cannot be said at full back. We need a decent right back STILL and even with the cash constraints I do find it mystefying it's taken us so long to fill that one gaping hole when other teams are signing players in that position without issue.
Tim has not necessarily set the world alight and he's had a few bad games, but he's had some good games too, and he's a decent defensive body in the midfield where we have also lost Gueye, where Garner is currently coming back from injury AND having to deputise at right back.
The flipside is we signed Hackney and Norgaard, so perhaps there is sufficient cover in DM, and perhaps Tim going means more minutes for more attacking mids like Armstrong, Alcaraz, etc"
Obviously the same cannot be said at full back. We need a decent right back STILL and even with the cash constraints I do find it mystefying it's taken us so long to fill that one gaping hole when other teams are signing players in that position without issue.
Jeff Spiers
5 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:15:43
5 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:15:43
Give him a go at RB!
Ashley Roberts
6 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:25:23
6 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:25:23
I believe I read he is in the last year of his contract? If that is true unless we sign him up to a new contract he can walk for nothing at the end of the season. He is not going to get much game time this season unless things change drastically and therefore if we could get £20 mil with a sell on clause it could be worth it. I think there is a good player in there and I would prefer to keep but potentially £20 mil might help us buy a decent RB which we are in need of desperately. A good left back as well. With those 2 signings I believe we could have a pretty good season.
Ian Wilkins
7 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:26:22
7 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:26:22
There is a player in there with more game time.
A £20m fee would be decent business however for an area we are well stocked allowing us to invest elsewhere, who knows maybe even in a full back… god forbid.
A £20m fee would be decent business however for an area we are well stocked allowing us to invest elsewhere, who knows maybe even in a full back… god forbid.
Jeff Armstrong
8 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:38:45
8 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:38:45
I think Moyes likes him and picked him before the likes of Armstrong previously, but I don’t think he’s going to get as many opportunities going forward, I think Armstrong has overtaken him and with the signings of Hackney and Norgard he is probably better off moving on, decent player at times but inconsistent, lovely backtrack and tackle one minute, sloppy pass the next.
I think we should definitely add a sell on clause into the deal as he will improve with more games at Hull.
I think we should definitely add a sell on clause into the deal as he will improve with more games at Hull.
Mark Steers
9 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:40:38
9 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:40:38
I will be sick if Tim Iroegbunam goes. I make good money every time he plays... Yellow Card!
Good luck to him at Hull. I will be backing him every game: close your eyes every tackle. Tim Iroegbunam... not what Everton need.
Good luck to him at Hull. I will be backing him every game: close your eyes every tackle. Tim Iroegbunam... not what Everton need.
Martin Reppion
10 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:41:18
10 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:41:18
I think that most transfers involving young players include a sell on clause. With this, I can see Tim moving as he won't get much game time this year with our options in the middle being so strong.
Of the ones we have, Norgaard, Rohl, Hackney, Garner, Armstrong, KDH would all be ahead of him in the pecking order. If he can curb his tendency to go into tackles like a headless chicken I believe he will have a good career in the Premier League. But he won't be getting that unless he plays every week.
Of the ones we have, Norgaard, Rohl, Hackney, Garner, Armstrong, KDH would all be ahead of him in the pecking order. If he can curb his tendency to go into tackles like a headless chicken I believe he will have a good career in the Premier League. But he won't be getting that unless he plays every week.
John Collins
11 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:44:14
11 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:44:14
Watch this kid develop into a top player.
All he needs is a good run of games.
All he needs is a good run of games.
Jimmy Salt
12 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:53:49
12 Posted 13/08/2026 at 12:53:49
I have always liked Tim, and like a few others, I think with further development there's a player in there.
If he is sold I hope Everton put some decent sell-on clauses in.
If he is sold I hope Everton put some decent sell-on clauses in.
Ray Jacques
13 Posted 13/08/2026 at 13:11:31
13 Posted 13/08/2026 at 13:11:31
I wont be sorry to see him leave, but I wish the guy well
Bill Gall
14 Posted 13/08/2026 at 13:21:20
14 Posted 13/08/2026 at 13:21:20
Have they got a decent right back that we can swap him for.
Gregory Shaw
15 Posted 13/08/2026 at 13:35:57
15 Posted 13/08/2026 at 13:35:57
Although he has had some good moments, I think he blows a bit hot and cold. And sometimes his concentration levels seem to be lacking. If we could get 20m with a sell on would let him go. We have better midfield players at the mo
Lester Yip
16 Posted 13/08/2026 at 13:47:07
16 Posted 13/08/2026 at 13:47:07
Given he's proven in EPL and good age with upward trajectory, $20m is a minimum. If it's true that we still have option to extend another 12 months, I'll be patient. Keep him till Jan and there will be desperate teams to buy.
Dan Nulty
17 Posted 13/08/2026 at 13:47:45
17 Posted 13/08/2026 at 13:47:45
Good moments but isn't consistent enough over 45 minutes let alone 90. Gives the ball away too much through lapses in concentration. Sorry but he is the epitome of average and if we can turn a profit here then we should.
Minik Hansen
18 Posted 13/08/2026 at 14:16:51
18 Posted 13/08/2026 at 14:16:51
If we sell him for a profit and get more money for recruitment, I'm happy to see how he's doing in a new club. Either way, good luck to him.
Lee Courtliff
19 Posted 13/08/2026 at 14:23:26
19 Posted 13/08/2026 at 14:23:26
£10M plus a massive sell-on clause may be the best bet, it gives Hull an affordable player and us the chance to make more money further down the line as well the up front money. He's probably only valued at about £3M on our balance sheet at the min, so we're still bringing in more money to put toward the Mysterious RB that we're eventually going to sign.
There's something about this lad that I like, despite his obvious inconsistencies.
There's something about this lad that I like, despite his obvious inconsistencies.
Andrew Ellams
20 Posted 13/08/2026 at 14:28:54
20 Posted 13/08/2026 at 14:28:54
He's down the pecking order in our thin squad. If selling him is what's needed to fund new incomings then it's a no brainer surely.
Mark Taylor
21 Posted 13/08/2026 at 14:52:43
21 Posted 13/08/2026 at 14:52:43
I suspect we have to trade to buy at this point and our currently well stocked midfield is the obvious place to start, and he is the most obvious candidate, along with Alcaraz (though Moyes seems to be trying to turn him into a wide left forward).
Like others, I'm not sure he'll make it or not but a properly constructed sell on clause would effectively give us a form of a buyback clause, if he succeeds and we find Norgard is past his best in a couple of years.
Like others, I'm not sure he'll make it or not but a properly constructed sell on clause would effectively give us a form of a buyback clause, if he succeeds and we find Norgard is past his best in a couple of years.
Christy Ring
22 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:03:16
22 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:03:16
I believe Armstrong offers more, I'd sell Tim, he's too inconsistent, his passing is limited, always seems to get a yellow early. Invest the money in a fullback,
Mike Powell
23 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:08:39
23 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:08:39
Sell him don't rate him one bit, foul after foul and terrible passer, loses the ball a lot, Armstrong twice the player
Stu Darlington
24 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:15:09
24 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:15:09
I agree Christy,plus I don’t think he is going to get much game time this coming season so better to let him go for the lads own development and maybe us getting a bit more towards a RB!
Rob Hooton
25 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:32:38
25 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:32:38
Mike P, I’m with you there I just don’t see much of a player in Tim. Timing in the tackle is off and often seems to be a red card waiting to happen, struggles to find a teammate that is 5 yards away. And his shooting is worse than Gueye’s!
If we can get our money back that would be a result, fantasy to think we’ll get £20m for a poor player in his last year IMO.
If we can get our money back that would be a result, fantasy to think we’ll get £20m for a poor player in his last year IMO.
Nathan Ford
26 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:38:14
26 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:38:14
Rumors are bid is around 15m with potential add ons.
As central midfield is our strongest area of the squad I'd sell and invest money in full back area's as that's a major concern for the new season which is only 9 days away.
Could we not put a buy back clause into contract incase he excells at hull it seems to be something that happens when clubs sell promising youngsters so why not us? That way we have an option if he does become an excellent player we have first refusal
As central midfield is our strongest area of the squad I'd sell and invest money in full back area's as that's a major concern for the new season which is only 9 days away.
Could we not put a buy back clause into contract incase he excells at hull it seems to be something that happens when clubs sell promising youngsters so why not us? That way we have an option if he does become an excellent player we have first refusal
Sean Herbert
27 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:40:26
27 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:40:26
He is definitely not a poor player but I can see the advantages of selling him.
Would definitely put in a sell on clause though, maybe even a buyback clause.
I wish him well if he does move. Prefer to see someone like Keane and Travers moved on before Tim.
Would definitely put in a sell on clause though, maybe even a buyback clause.
I wish him well if he does move. Prefer to see someone like Keane and Travers moved on before Tim.
Martin Berry
28 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:45:11
28 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:45:11
If the rumours are true, then a fee of £15-£20m will not be turned down for a player in the last year of his contract.
The plan has probably been in place for a while to sell, you don't bring Hackney, Rohl etc into the team if you want to keep Tim.
The plan has probably been in place for a while to sell, you don't bring Hackney, Rohl etc into the team if you want to keep Tim.
Josh Horne
29 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:50:54
29 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:50:54
Has the makings of a good player, but we have prioritised other options so go he must.
Nicolas Piñon
30 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:52:20
30 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:52:20
Don’t let him go you clowns
Mike Gaynes
31 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:56:14
31 Posted 13/08/2026 at 15:56:14
Tim's a brilliant athlete and a Gana-level tackler, but he struggles constantly with positioning, often winding up on the wrong side of his man. So when he puts in that tackle, he fouls. He led the league by a wide margin this season in yellow cards per minutes played.
And his confidence carrying the ball often backfires, as he drives into blind alleys and turns it over in bad positions.
He was once Gana's most likely successor, but now he's behind Garner, Norgaard, Hackney, and probably Armstrong and Rohl at the position. There's no path for him anymore at Everton.
Wishing him the best. The Hull fans will love his fire and commitment.
And his confidence carrying the ball often backfires, as he drives into blind alleys and turns it over in bad positions.
He was once Gana's most likely successor, but now he's behind Garner, Norgaard, Hackney, and probably Armstrong and Rohl at the position. There's no path for him anymore at Everton.
Wishing him the best. The Hull fans will love his fire and commitment.
Joe McMahon
32 Posted 13/08/2026 at 16:19:59
32 Posted 13/08/2026 at 16:19:59
Shame really, I had hopes for him. But the Everton coaching team, IMO has failed him. We really don't have a great track record of player development.
Ian Horan
33 Posted 13/08/2026 at 16:20:02
33 Posted 13/08/2026 at 16:20:02
We should activate the additional year, send him to Hull until January with an obligation for Hull to buy if we don't recall him.
Jay Harris
34 Posted 13/08/2026 at 16:22:21
34 Posted 13/08/2026 at 16:22:21
Tim is a good player but struggled with the pace and intensity of the Premiership and only getting occasional game time.
With a decent run of games I believe he will become a very good player but in the last 12 months of his contract with an additional 12 month option the time is right to sell him.
Go get Jackson and Munoz and start the hunt for a LB.
With a decent run of games I believe he will become a very good player but in the last 12 months of his contract with an additional 12 month option the time is right to sell him.
Go get Jackson and Munoz and start the hunt for a LB.
Dale Self
35 Posted 13/08/2026 at 16:22:32
35 Posted 13/08/2026 at 16:22:32
Good for Armstrong and decent business. What is Dobbin doing?
With our midfield stocked, we shouldn't wait for Tim to develop. Armstrong has shown enough, and shone in my eyes, that we need to do this to improve our trading reputation. No more hanging on too long, moving players while it is still a good proposition for them and their new club.
I liked Tim going forward and feel with stable partnerships, he could become a solid PL player. He isn't there positionally or reading the match.
With our midfield stocked, we shouldn't wait for Tim to develop. Armstrong has shown enough, and shone in my eyes, that we need to do this to improve our trading reputation. No more hanging on too long, moving players while it is still a good proposition for them and their new club.
I liked Tim going forward and feel with stable partnerships, he could become a solid PL player. He isn't there positionally or reading the match.
Eric Myles
36 Posted 13/08/2026 at 16:24:16
36 Posted 13/08/2026 at 16:24:16
Nathan #26, and others, the problem with a buy-back clause is the player would have to want to come back, so if we want him back then better send him on loan. So a sell on clause would be the best option if we're prepared to let him go.
David West
37 Posted 13/08/2026 at 17:08:56
37 Posted 13/08/2026 at 17:08:56
Definitely a good player in there, if we weren't so low on numbers since he arrived, a loan would of been ideal, then bring him back after had a full season playing every week.
The position he plays, the gana/norgard role is one that requires composure, which is something he lacks, experience & maturity will give him that, if we had others surplus to the squad I'd keep him, but if you got 20m for him that's decent money!
The position he plays, the gana/norgard role is one that requires composure, which is something he lacks, experience & maturity will give him that, if we had others surplus to the squad I'd keep him, but if you got 20m for him that's decent money!
Alex Parr
38 Posted 13/08/2026 at 17:12:05
38 Posted 13/08/2026 at 17:12:05
I would sell him without a doubt. I think he's a terrible player.
James Fletcher
39 Posted 13/08/2026 at 17:23:22
39 Posted 13/08/2026 at 17:23:22
I don't think he's a terrible player at all, he's one of the few that can quite effortlessly go round a player and can tackle pretty well too - my only concern is that he's slightly injury prone and this is a good offer.
Jonathan Oppenheimer
40 Posted 13/08/2026 at 17:37:57
40 Posted 13/08/2026 at 17:37:57
This is a no-brainer. Even if he succeeds wildly somewhere else, which I don’t see happening, it still would be the smart move. It turns a tidy profit and it allows us to spend money in positions of real need.
It doesn’t help to stockpile players who won’t play, which leads to them stagnating and not able to show their value to other clubs. We’re already facing this potential problem with young players in Dibling, George, Rohl, Alcaraz, Hackney, and Armstrong. They all have great potential, but they all need to play to improve.
It also seems like this was always part of the plan, especially once we brought in Norgaard. Let Tim go, and let’s all hope he succeeds elsewhere. Then take the same amount for Alcaraz if someone comes calling, Then spend it all on the best right back we can find.
It doesn’t help to stockpile players who won’t play, which leads to them stagnating and not able to show their value to other clubs. We’re already facing this potential problem with young players in Dibling, George, Rohl, Alcaraz, Hackney, and Armstrong. They all have great potential, but they all need to play to improve.
It also seems like this was always part of the plan, especially once we brought in Norgaard. Let Tim go, and let’s all hope he succeeds elsewhere. Then take the same amount for Alcaraz if someone comes calling, Then spend it all on the best right back we can find.
Paul Hewitt
41 Posted 13/08/2026 at 17:49:24
41 Posted 13/08/2026 at 17:49:24
Terrible is a bit strong.
John Collins
42 Posted 13/08/2026 at 18:02:22
42 Posted 13/08/2026 at 18:02:22
He won't be at Hull the season after next, a higher level club will buy him.
Develop into a top midfielder given a good run of consecutive games imo.
Develop into a top midfielder given a good run of consecutive games imo.
Kevin Molloy
43 Posted 13/08/2026 at 18:08:21
43 Posted 13/08/2026 at 18:08:21
this is one that could well bite us on the arse, but I'm still ok with him going. we've decided to go instead with Norgaard and Hackney, let's see what happens.
Ian Bennett
44 Posted 13/08/2026 at 18:14:11
44 Posted 13/08/2026 at 18:14:11
£15 to 20m with a sell on clause is fine. Out of contract in the summer, so needs to go.
Beto, Akcaraz, Patterson to sort.
Mcneil done.
Beto, Akcaraz, Patterson to sort.
Mcneil done.
Mike Powell
45 Posted 13/08/2026 at 18:17:52
45 Posted 13/08/2026 at 18:17:52
We have to get rid of players like Tim, if we are to improve, he is average at best, we all want us to move up the league and challenge for Europe,but with players like him not gonna happen
David West
46 Posted 13/08/2026 at 18:56:41
46 Posted 13/08/2026 at 18:56:41
John 42.
I agree, just don't think we have that time to give him, last season showed he needs to improve, definitely on the ball.
We need the player he could be now !
I agree, just don't think we have that time to give him, last season showed he needs to improve, definitely on the ball.
We need the player he could be now !
John Pickles
47 Posted 13/08/2026 at 18:59:20
47 Posted 13/08/2026 at 18:59:20
A very energetic 'tackling machine', good at disrupting the oppositions attacks, but for me that's about it. Seems to play his own game, out of kilter with his team mates and can't pass to an acceptable standard.
Think a relegation battling Prem team like Hull will be a good move for him.
Think a relegation battling Prem team like Hull will be a good move for him.
Si Cooper
48 Posted 13/08/2026 at 19:38:55
48 Posted 13/08/2026 at 19:38:55
He is a mixed bag and so very much mixed feelings about this one. On balance it’s probably better for all to do this deal.
Like the sound of Ian’s proposal at (33) but I can’t imagine Hull would be such mugs as to agree to giving us all the control over the move unless the agreed fee was peanuts.
Like the sound of Ian’s proposal at (33) but I can’t imagine Hull would be such mugs as to agree to giving us all the control over the move unless the agreed fee was peanuts.
Christy Ring
49 Posted 13/08/2026 at 20:56:45
49 Posted 13/08/2026 at 20:56:45
John #42
I know you're a big fan, and at 23, he has loads of time to develop.
He got a lot more playing time last season than Armstrong, and was very inconsistent. I think Harrison is a lot more skilful and way better on the ball.
I know you're a big fan, and at 23, he has loads of time to develop.
He got a lot more playing time last season than Armstrong, and was very inconsistent. I think Harrison is a lot more skilful and way better on the ball.
Brendan McLaughlin
50 Posted 13/08/2026 at 21:09:14
50 Posted 13/08/2026 at 21:09:14
Unfair Joe #32,
We haven't off-loaded many (any) players whose subsequent careers made us seriously regret the decision to let them go.
We haven't off-loaded many (any) players whose subsequent careers made us seriously regret the decision to let them go.
Phil Roberts
51 Posted 13/08/2026 at 21:15:24
51 Posted 13/08/2026 at 21:15:24
He is 23 already. Who can we name who significantly improved that late in their career. He is even older than Leon Osman when he came back from Wolves.
We are moaning that players are held and held in the U21s for too long. How many games is he going to play with the midfield we have? He is not going to be first choice and only as a sub or if someone is injured. Best for him and us to move him on.
We are moaning that players are held and held in the U21s for too long. How many games is he going to play with the midfield we have? He is not going to be first choice and only as a sub or if someone is injured. Best for him and us to move him on.
Jay Lewis
52 Posted 13/08/2026 at 21:27:35
52 Posted 13/08/2026 at 21:27:35
Bye Tim 👍
Sean Herbert
53 Posted 13/08/2026 at 22:11:47
53 Posted 13/08/2026 at 22:11:47
Alex @ 38,
You must have seen some god awful players in your time if you consider Tim to be terrible.
You must have seen some god awful players in your time if you consider Tim to be terrible.
Tom Bowers
54 Posted 13/08/2026 at 22:47:52
54 Posted 13/08/2026 at 22:47:52
Tim is decent-+-big,strong and athletic
However, he hasn't made the progress we all expected mostly because his tackling is suspect.
He is also a victim of Moyes tactics which probably kept him from getting forward more often and grabbing a goal or two which always helps your resume.
Everton need to sell some other "fringe" players in order to bring in fresh blood to the areas we all agree they are weak in.
However, he hasn't made the progress we all expected mostly because his tackling is suspect.
He is also a victim of Moyes tactics which probably kept him from getting forward more often and grabbing a goal or two which always helps your resume.
Everton need to sell some other "fringe" players in order to bring in fresh blood to the areas we all agree they are weak in.
Frank Thomas
55 Posted 13/08/2026 at 22:53:28
55 Posted 13/08/2026 at 22:53:28
Tim did make mistakes last year that did cost us points but on that basis Moyes should go before him since his reluctance to use 4 or even 5 subs cost us more points than Tim last season.
Moyes does this all type of thing all the time.
Step 1 one remove players that the previous manager signed never his signings until they are 100% his signings. Cash in on your best players along as they are not signed by him.
Why would any manager from the top 4 teams last season want to buy Ndiaye... (remember not signed by Moyes)
Step 2 indicate to his heirarcy that he has signed 'great players' who are not ready yet for the premiership, Hence the fact that nearly 75% of his signing value was not utilised properly last year, Rohl, Aznou and Dibling were hardly used but they are ready this season.
Step 3 mess around in pre season friendlies change your team putting players together who he has seen play badly together in games and expect them to play great.
Then select the team you finished the season with.
I think most people could name the team to kick off the first game of the season. I expect
Pickford,
Mykolenko, Tarks, Keane, O'Brien (even if a new right back is signed) Norgaard (in place of Idrissa), Armstrong (In place of Garner),
Rohl or (Ndiaye if any sanity prevails), Dewsbury-Hall, George (if Grealish is not resigned)
Barry
Finally we sold a player who can shoot from a distance for a player who taps them in and will cost us a higher salary.
Look at Moyes's record in choosing strikers he has never signed a striker with better than just under 1 goal every 4 games.
We could have had Vlahovic for free with a salary of 120K p/w
Link
Also why are we not looking at Azeez from Millwall Link
This player is totally aware of where his team mates are look at his passes.
Moyes does this all type of thing all the time.
Step 1 one remove players that the previous manager signed never his signings until they are 100% his signings. Cash in on your best players along as they are not signed by him.
Why would any manager from the top 4 teams last season want to buy Ndiaye... (remember not signed by Moyes)
Step 2 indicate to his heirarcy that he has signed 'great players' who are not ready yet for the premiership, Hence the fact that nearly 75% of his signing value was not utilised properly last year, Rohl, Aznou and Dibling were hardly used but they are ready this season.
Step 3 mess around in pre season friendlies change your team putting players together who he has seen play badly together in games and expect them to play great.
Then select the team you finished the season with.
I think most people could name the team to kick off the first game of the season. I expect
Pickford,
Mykolenko, Tarks, Keane, O'Brien (even if a new right back is signed) Norgaard (in place of Idrissa), Armstrong (In place of Garner),
Rohl or (Ndiaye if any sanity prevails), Dewsbury-Hall, George (if Grealish is not resigned)
Barry
Finally we sold a player who can shoot from a distance for a player who taps them in and will cost us a higher salary.
Look at Moyes's record in choosing strikers he has never signed a striker with better than just under 1 goal every 4 games.
We could have had Vlahovic for free with a salary of 120K p/w
Link
Also why are we not looking at Azeez from Millwall Link
This player is totally aware of where his team mates are look at his passes.
Mark Steers
56 Posted 13/08/2026 at 23:01:02
56 Posted 13/08/2026 at 23:01:02
If, by some amazing chance, we get £15M for Iroegbunam (probably only ~£10M)... well, most of that will cover what we paid for Hayden Hackney, who after 3 games looks like a top player... Wow!
Hull fans will cry when the red cards come out regularly. Sorry but he's not for me. Oh, Southampton just bought Dobbin for £10M... probably turned out equal.
Hull fans will cry when the red cards come out regularly. Sorry but he's not for me. Oh, Southampton just bought Dobbin for £10M... probably turned out equal.
Jay Lewis
57 Posted 13/08/2026 at 23:03:49
57 Posted 13/08/2026 at 23:03:49
Sean @53, compared to Pistone and Krøldrup, he was Pele! Haha!
Jay Lewis
58 Posted 13/08/2026 at 23:10:58
58 Posted 13/08/2026 at 23:10:58
Moyes is like the shit stain you got in your fave boxies on a night out.
No matter how much you wash them and get them clean, they still fucking stink of arse.
No matter how much you wash them and get them clean, they still fucking stink of arse.
Brendan McLaughlin
59 Posted 13/08/2026 at 23:25:31
59 Posted 13/08/2026 at 23:25:31
Jay #58
You could of course just buy a new pair?
Unless you've signed a contract... in which case I'd recommend turning them inside out?
You could of course just buy a new pair?
Unless you've signed a contract... in which case I'd recommend turning them inside out?
Brendan McLaughlin
60 Posted 13/08/2026 at 23:35:06
60 Posted 13/08/2026 at 23:35:06
Frank #55,
Apart from Rooney, when did Moyes cash in on a player not signed by him?
Apart from Rooney, when did Moyes cash in on a player not signed by him?
Mike Allison
61 Posted 13/08/2026 at 23:40:56
61 Posted 13/08/2026 at 23:40:56
Signing Norgaard to then lose Iroegbunam is horrible.
We've signed players we didn't need in a position where we're developing good young Englishmen and completely failed to sign players in the position where we actually need them.
Loan Tim out, don't sell him. He's already good and if he plays regularly he'll be a very good Premier League ball winner.
We've signed players we didn't need in a position where we're developing good young Englishmen and completely failed to sign players in the position where we actually need them.
Loan Tim out, don't sell him. He's already good and if he plays regularly he'll be a very good Premier League ball winner.
Mick O\\\'Malley
62 Posted 13/08/2026 at 00:04:32
62 Posted 13/08/2026 at 00:04:32
I honestly couldn't care less if he goes. For me, he just doesn't contribute enough: no goals, no assists, guaranteed yellow card. I think he is bang average. We're well stocked in midfield so it makes sense to sell him.
He's a typical player Everton fans love, a tackling machine with woeful passing, never scores any goals, and gets booked a lot, but he runs around a lot.
As Mike Gaynes points out, he constantly gets caught the wrong side of his man. Snap Hull's hand off and get shut as far as I'm concerned.
He's a typical player Everton fans love, a tackling machine with woeful passing, never scores any goals, and gets booked a lot, but he runs around a lot.
As Mike Gaynes points out, he constantly gets caught the wrong side of his man. Snap Hull's hand off and get shut as far as I'm concerned.
Nicolas Piñon
63 Posted 14/08/2026 at 02:20:36
63 Posted 14/08/2026 at 02:20:36
He (23) can tackle and run as fast as anyone in our midfield with and without the ball. Why would he be compared to Armstrong if the kid is offensive and Iroegbunam more defensive? Absurd.
Noorgard (32) played not even one game last season and Hackney comes from the Championship and isn't fast. We already have an extremely slow backline. Terrible choice letting him go.
Noorgard (32) played not even one game last season and Hackney comes from the Championship and isn't fast. We already have an extremely slow backline. Terrible choice letting him go.
Mike Gaynes
64 Posted 14/08/2026 at 04:21:12
64 Posted 14/08/2026 at 04:21:12
Frank #55...
"We could have had Vlahovic for free "
You are absolutely dreaming. Never a prayer he would consider a mid-table club. He spoke with Champions League clubs only, and was always leaning towards Besiktas because his favourite manager is there.
Re Azeez, good player but I'm happier with Brennan Johnson.
"We could have had Vlahovic for free "
You are absolutely dreaming. Never a prayer he would consider a mid-table club. He spoke with Champions League clubs only, and was always leaning towards Besiktas because his favourite manager is there.
Re Azeez, good player but I'm happier with Brennan Johnson.
John Keating
65 Posted 14/08/2026 at 06:52:55
65 Posted 14/08/2026 at 06:52:55
So far in preseason games, Armstrong has to stay, loaning him out makes no sense, he is well worth his place.
We have Dewsbury-Hall and Hackney, who is getting up to speed, plus Garner to come back -- unless Moyes wastes him at right back, Rohl and Norgaard. That's six in competition for the midfield spots. Is there much room for Iroegbunam and Alcaraz?
We have Ndiaye, Dibling, George and Johnson battling for the two wide places. Is it worth financially looking at getting Grealish back?
Looks like this season we're going to stick with Barry and Beto -- unfortunately.
To me, it's defence we have to sort out. Long term, Moyes should be looking at Branthwaite and O'Brien in the middle. Full backs... now there's a problem\!
If we can get £15-20M for Tim Iroegbunam, we will take it. Charly Alcaraz... well, not sure what we'd get there.
We have Dewsbury-Hall and Hackney, who is getting up to speed, plus Garner to come back -- unless Moyes wastes him at right back, Rohl and Norgaard. That's six in competition for the midfield spots. Is there much room for Iroegbunam and Alcaraz?
We have Ndiaye, Dibling, George and Johnson battling for the two wide places. Is it worth financially looking at getting Grealish back?
Looks like this season we're going to stick with Barry and Beto -- unfortunately.
To me, it's defence we have to sort out. Long term, Moyes should be looking at Branthwaite and O'Brien in the middle. Full backs... now there's a problem\!
If we can get £15-20M for Tim Iroegbunam, we will take it. Charly Alcaraz... well, not sure what we'd get there.
Terry Farrell
66 Posted 14/08/2026 at 06:55:12
66 Posted 14/08/2026 at 06:55:12
Tim Iroegbunam is a great player with pace, skill, and -- as important -- hunger and desire.
Do not sell... end of!
Do not sell... end of!
Laurie Hartley
67 Posted 14/08/2026 at 07:25:47
67 Posted 14/08/2026 at 07:25:47
I think selling him would be a mistake.
John Collins
68 Posted 14/08/2026 at 07:40:38
68 Posted 14/08/2026 at 07:40:38
Christy 49,
Two different type of players mate. I've posted many times: Armstrong will develop to be the best out of the current squad.
Two different type of players mate. I've posted many times: Armstrong will develop to be the best out of the current squad.
Mark Steers
69 Posted 14/08/2026 at 08:07:14
69 Posted 14/08/2026 at 08:07:14
Harrison Armstrong is already Everton’s best midfielder. He is a Rolls-Royce — no one can stop him being tops.
Moyes tried to slow Rooney down by benching him but Armstrong will be the first name on team sheet forever unless someone takes him. He’s pure class.
Moyes tried to slow Rooney down by benching him but Armstrong will be the first name on team sheet forever unless someone takes him. He’s pure class.
Andrew Merrick
70 Posted 14/08/2026 at 08:16:08
70 Posted 14/08/2026 at 08:16:08
We can afford to thin out a little, and if this sale improves our buying power directly by £15m upwards, then it makes some sense.
Fullbacks could transform us from a nearly good to really good competitive level.
Improve turnover, transition, passing and chances created.
The focus then of course is finishing, but one step at a time.
Fullbacks could transform us from a nearly good to really good competitive level.
Improve turnover, transition, passing and chances created.
The focus then of course is finishing, but one step at a time.
Ian Bennett
71 Posted 14/08/2026 at 08:34:07
71 Posted 14/08/2026 at 08:34:07
Mike 61 - he is out of contract in 10 months time. Convincing a 23 year old, going on 24 year old to sign a new contract and then going on loan, isn't going to happen.
Financially that would be the best deal for us; same with Chermiti last season. But given that he will want to just play, he needs to be sold with a sell-on fee on top.
Decisions need to be made on assets like Beto, Patterson and Alcaraz. We can't afford for £40-50M of talent to walk for nothing.
Financially that would be the best deal for us; same with Chermiti last season. But given that he will want to just play, he needs to be sold with a sell-on fee on top.
Decisions need to be made on assets like Beto, Patterson and Alcaraz. We can't afford for £40-50M of talent to walk for nothing.
Phil Roberts
72 Posted 14/08/2026 at 08:51:11
72 Posted 14/08/2026 at 08:51:11
Frank #55 - "Look at Moyes's record in choosing strikers he has NEVER signed a striker with better than just under 1 goal every 4 games",
James Beatttie - 68 in 204 for Southamption = 1 in 3
Andy Johnson - 82 in 223 = 1 in 2.7
Yakubu - 104 in 226 = 1 in 2.2
Jermaine Beckford - 80 in 148 = 1 in 1.85
Stephen Naismith - 57 in 200 = 1 in 3.5 (but still better than 1 in 4)
But why let the facts spoil a lie because you do not like someone.
James Beatttie - 68 in 204 for Southamption = 1 in 3
Andy Johnson - 82 in 223 = 1 in 2.7
Yakubu - 104 in 226 = 1 in 2.2
Jermaine Beckford - 80 in 148 = 1 in 1.85
Stephen Naismith - 57 in 200 = 1 in 3.5 (but still better than 1 in 4)
But why let the facts spoil a lie because you do not like someone.
Craig Walker
73 Posted 14/08/2026 at 11:48:53
73 Posted 14/08/2026 at 11:48:53
He pulled his hamstring and Hull City won't be signing him, apparently.
Rocco Bugaj
74 Posted 14/08/2026 at 12:14:24
74 Posted 14/08/2026 at 12:14:24
I like Tim Iroegbunam. But he is often an uncertain factor in the game. I would like to keep him because I think he can still develop well.
But if we sell him, we'll have money for Hector Fort. We need him more urgently.
But if we sell him, we'll have money for Hector Fort. We need him more urgently.
Paul Hewitt
75 Posted 14/08/2026 at 12:28:45
75 Posted 14/08/2026 at 12:28:45
We should let Hull take him on loan, but we pay his wages till he is fit. Like we did with Broja.
Tim won't get much game time with us.
Tim won't get much game time with us.
Nigel Scowen
77 Posted 14/08/2026 at 12:48:56
77 Posted 14/08/2026 at 12:48:56
Laurie@67
You maybe right, he could turn into being a great player... but, then again, maybe not. He's a player that has to go to make room for more pressing concerns.
I quite like him but needs must, in my opinion, and, if it helps us get Munoz, then so be it. This deal should have clauses all over it though, sell-ons, buy-backs (if that's even a thing) etc.
You maybe right, he could turn into being a great player... but, then again, maybe not. He's a player that has to go to make room for more pressing concerns.
I quite like him but needs must, in my opinion, and, if it helps us get Munoz, then so be it. This deal should have clauses all over it though, sell-ons, buy-backs (if that's even a thing) etc.
Derek Knox
78 Posted 14/08/2026 at 13:22:43
78 Posted 14/08/2026 at 13:22:43
I am a bit ambivalent on this, while I agree Tim is a useful squad member, whenever I have watched him he fades after the hour mark, and because of the amount of midfield options we now have, would he be a bench warmer, if selected, at best?
Either a straight sale at a decent price, or a loan with an option to buy! Use the money to prioritise a right-back and a striker, because we can't rely on Bluto and Barry to act as our only option!
Apparently, Hull have pulled out as he has an injury, and not available for season start!
Either a straight sale at a decent price, or a loan with an option to buy! Use the money to prioritise a right-back and a striker, because we can't rely on Bluto and Barry to act as our only option!
Apparently, Hull have pulled out as he has an injury, and not available for season start!
Andrew Ellams
79 Posted 14/08/2026 at 14:16:11
79 Posted 14/08/2026 at 14:16:11
If this falls apart, I guess that means no Munoz coming in.
Mike Gaynes
80 Posted 14/08/2026 at 16:47:11
80 Posted 14/08/2026 at 16:47:11
I'm not heartbroken that the Hull deal is off due to Tim's injury, but I am concerned that the incoming cash was earmarked for a right-back acquisition. Hope not.
Frank Thomas
81 Posted 14/08/2026 at 17:35:13
81 Posted 14/08/2026 at 17:35:13
Brendan (36) apart from Chermiti who is now valued at £15M my memory does not go back to the players who were here when he took control originally. My main point is that he only wants to work with players he signs or discovers as a consequence he will sell a player to get cash to buy someone that he can then say he signed.
I also think we sold Chermiti too soon.
Phil (72) I don't lie. I have made mistakes on ToffeeWeb but I now try and find the facts to back up my feelings and thoughts.
If you are looking at goals throughout their careers then we should have kept Maupay on that basis. Who throughout his career has scored 1 goal every 4 games. We could also count every goals scored at under 17, 16 etc if that will help your point to prove me wrong. I am only interested on the goals players scored for Everton.
Once again my point is the goals they have actually score for us;
Maupay Link
Let's look at the goals the players you mentioned in your post have actually scored for us.
James Beattie Link
Andrew Johnson Link
Yakubu Link
Beckford Link
Naismith Link
Beto Link
There is still a chance that Barry might get better Link
Strikers not signed by Moyes.
Lukaku Link
I also think we sold Chermiti too soon.
Phil (72) I don't lie. I have made mistakes on ToffeeWeb but I now try and find the facts to back up my feelings and thoughts.
If you are looking at goals throughout their careers then we should have kept Maupay on that basis. Who throughout his career has scored 1 goal every 4 games. We could also count every goals scored at under 17, 16 etc if that will help your point to prove me wrong. I am only interested on the goals players scored for Everton.
Once again my point is the goals they have actually score for us;
Maupay Link
Let's look at the goals the players you mentioned in your post have actually scored for us.
James Beattie Link
Andrew Johnson Link
Yakubu Link
Beckford Link
Naismith Link
Beto Link
There is still a chance that Barry might get better Link
Strikers not signed by Moyes.
Lukaku Link
Ian Bennett
82 Posted 15/08/2026 at 08:16:00
82 Posted 15/08/2026 at 08:16:00
Rangers turned down a bid of £22M, implying that they're either looking for more up-front cash or a higher bid -- £25M plus.
My understanding is that he was sold for £8M plus a selL-on fee of 20%. That would get us £8M plus £3.4M sell-on fee once sold before the injury occurred.
The lesson was Everton should have loaned him for a season, and then made a decision to sell themselves for £25M or keep as the 2nd or 3rd striker. That assumes he wasn't at end of his contract and the club didn't need the £8M last summer for other things.
Chelsea seem to do this thing all the time. Buy young up-and-coming stars, do little with them themselves, but make good profit when moving them on. Everton aren't set up to do that. That needs to change in time.
My understanding is that he was sold for £8M plus a selL-on fee of 20%. That would get us £8M plus £3.4M sell-on fee once sold before the injury occurred.
The lesson was Everton should have loaned him for a season, and then made a decision to sell themselves for £25M or keep as the 2nd or 3rd striker. That assumes he wasn't at end of his contract and the club didn't need the £8M last summer for other things.
Chelsea seem to do this thing all the time. Buy young up-and-coming stars, do little with them themselves, but make good profit when moving them on. Everton aren't set up to do that. That needs to change in time.
Steve Brown
83 Posted 15/08/2026 at 09:00:47
83 Posted 15/08/2026 at 09:00:47
Phil @ 72, as Frank points out, the scoring records of every player you listed got worse when they joined Everton:
Beattie 13 goals in 76 games (1 goal in 6)
Johnson 17 goals in 61 games (1 goal in 3.5)
Yakubu 25 goals in 82 games (1 goal in 3.3)
Beckford 8 goals in 34 games (1 goal in 4)
Naismith 18 goals in 103 goals.(1 goal in 5)
Why is that do you think?
Beattie 13 goals in 76 games (1 goal in 6)
Johnson 17 goals in 61 games (1 goal in 3.5)
Yakubu 25 goals in 82 games (1 goal in 3.3)
Beckford 8 goals in 34 games (1 goal in 4)
Naismith 18 goals in 103 goals.(1 goal in 5)
Why is that do you think?
John Collins
84 Posted 15/08/2026 at 09:07:05
84 Posted 15/08/2026 at 09:07:05
Anyone who has a basic knowledge of football knows why, Steve.
Brendan McLaughlin
85 Posted 15/08/2026 at 09:20:09
85 Posted 15/08/2026 at 09:20:09
Frank #81
All managers who are at a club for any length of time sell players and bring in new ones. It 's part and parcel of management.
I just find it strange that you seem to be suggesting that Moyes is replacing players to basically boost his own ego.
Moyes is also on record admitting some of his buys were largely down to his recruitment team. Seamus Coleman and John Stones for example.
There are plenty of sticks with which to beat Moyes... no need to be grasping at straws.
All managers who are at a club for any length of time sell players and bring in new ones. It 's part and parcel of management.
I just find it strange that you seem to be suggesting that Moyes is replacing players to basically boost his own ego.
Moyes is also on record admitting some of his buys were largely down to his recruitment team. Seamus Coleman and John Stones for example.
There are plenty of sticks with which to beat Moyes... no need to be grasping at straws.
Phil Roberts
87 Posted 15/08/2026 at 09:52:10
87 Posted 15/08/2026 at 09:52:10
Having read Howard Kendall's autobiography, I was made aware of how brutal he was at buying and selling players. But that is fine.
And Frank, that is not what you said: "He has never signed a striker with better than just under 1 goal every 4 games".
So it was all about their record before they got here, unless you didn't express yourself correctly.
And Frank, that is not what you said: "He has never signed a striker with better than just under 1 goal every 4 games".
So it was all about their record before they got here, unless you didn't express yourself correctly.
Oliver Molloy
88 Posted 16/08/2026 at 20:11:16
88 Posted 16/08/2026 at 20:11:16
I bumped into a yank today in Donegal and, as with all yanks I bump into, I asked his opinion of their orange man. So he was sort of in the middle regards Trump.
We got chatting for 10 minutes and he brought up he was aware he was passing through the great county of Irish football captain -- recently retired "as he put it" from Everton.
He asked me, did I know him? To which I replied "All Donegal people know Seamus, as do all of Ireland and a fair few outside! Especially us Everton supporters!!"
"So you are an Everton supporter?" he asked, and I said "Indeed I am."
The conversation continued about sports and he was fairly knowledgeable all-rounder, but more interesting was he claimed he was friends with an associate of our owner. His guy was a major supplier to the Friedkin group in some way or another.
He reckoned Richarlison is going to be signed, and Lampard will be a target! Make of that what you will... imagine!
We got chatting for 10 minutes and he brought up he was aware he was passing through the great county of Irish football captain -- recently retired "as he put it" from Everton.
He asked me, did I know him? To which I replied "All Donegal people know Seamus, as do all of Ireland and a fair few outside! Especially us Everton supporters!!"
"So you are an Everton supporter?" he asked, and I said "Indeed I am."
The conversation continued about sports and he was fairly knowledgeable all-rounder, but more interesting was he claimed he was friends with an associate of our owner. His guy was a major supplier to the Friedkin group in some way or another.
He reckoned Richarlison is going to be signed, and Lampard will be a target! Make of that what you will... imagine!
Brendan McLaughlin
89 Posted 16/08/2026 at 20:29:15
89 Posted 16/08/2026 at 20:29:15
Oliver #88,
Where in Donegal? Are you a local or are you visiting?
I was in Donegal myself this weekend but the weather was awful today so I came home early.
Where in Donegal? Are you a local or are you visiting?
I was in Donegal myself this weekend but the weather was awful today so I came home early.
Tony Abrahams
90 Posted 17/08/2026 at 06:43:52
90 Posted 17/08/2026 at 06:43:52
Amazing looking at those stats produced between Phil and Steve. If it was a one-off, you would say these things happen but, when you are talking about five different players, I think it's fair to say that you can clearly see a pattern.
Maybe these players went backwards with regards their goals scored because they couldn't quite make the step-up? But when you consider that three of them were already playing and scoring in the Premier League, then the only step-up that they have genuinely made is that they all went to a bigger and better club.
If this is the case, then surely it's got to be about the system that had already been developed at the club they were joining, a system that means a lot of fans just unfortunately don't really enjoy watching Everton playing under our current manager?
Maybe these players went backwards with regards their goals scored because they couldn't quite make the step-up? But when you consider that three of them were already playing and scoring in the Premier League, then the only step-up that they have genuinely made is that they all went to a bigger and better club.
If this is the case, then surely it's got to be about the system that had already been developed at the club they were joining, a system that means a lot of fans just unfortunately don't really enjoy watching Everton playing under our current manager?
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1 Posted 13/08/2026 at 11:57:52
Unfortunately, as it appears, we may need to make a sale before we bring anyone else in.