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If I was manager or owner of Portsmouth or West Ham I would be giving short shrift to David Moyes and Everton FC for daring to comment on how they do business.

Similarly, I wouldn't want Tony Adams or Zola commenting on how Everton FC carry out their affairs. Moyes' point may well have validation but it is not his remit to justify how Everton operate in an open market place at the expense of those who do things differently.

Players — and for that matter managers — are professional people who get the best deal available to them. If their employers pay them above market value then that is the employers fault and eventually the employers will pay the price for over-stretching themselves.

David Moyes is hardly going to attract new faces to the club now or in the summer by cryiing poverty and moaning about market forces.

Also, I don't remember David saying to Bill, "Oh, it's alright Bill, I'm happy with the salary I'm on now; wouldn't like to be cast as a mercenary or take money that the club can ill afford!"
Anthony Dyer, North West Posted 18/01/2009 at 16:29:24

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James Boden
1 Posted 18/01/2009 at 21:13:13

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I can't say I'm shocked that Moyes would say something like that. Instead of worrying about other clubs, how about he worries about Everton's blatantly obvious need for a striker? He?s got the biggest contract in Everton history despite winning fuck all, so as far as I'm concerned he should keep his mouth shut. We need to win these derby matches, not poke our noses into matters of Pompey or West Ham.

Micky Norman
2 Posted 18/01/2009 at 21:00:27

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If real market forces applied in football rather than the emotional economics of supporting a team (and I include people who own clubs here ? especially smaller ones, as well as ordinary supporters), then we would have one league with the Sky 4 and about 10 other clubs. Actually even Chelsea would have gone before Matthew Harding rescued them. Everton would have probably died after agent Johnson.

Moyes is spot on. Even though he may be a hypocrite. It may not be any of his business but if we are to be competing with anything other than rich men?s dildoes like Man City, or global megabrands like Man Utd, then something has to happen. Football at the moment is an obscene money wasting TV soap. If it wasn?t for the weekly 90-minute fix it gives us junkies each week, I?m sure many like me would walk away from it.

Steve Duffy
3 Posted 18/01/2009 at 21:18:41

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What more do you want? Every year since he started, he has improved the team, and it must be getting harder. So, when he comes out and speaks the truth, the likes of you are straight on his back. Worry more about the team he puts out tomorrow and not about the today's comments, would you rather have Southgate or Zola? These never say what they want ? only what someone has told them.

Neil Pearse
4 Posted 18/01/2009 at 21:36:29

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I thought Moyes actually made an interesting point which we haven?t heard before really.

Rather than criticizing the real big spenders (Chelsea, Man City etc.), he pointed out that a major source of destabilisation was coming from clubs like West Ham and Portsmouth who had owners who pumped silly money into their clubs for a very short period ? paying ridiculous fees and wages in the process ? and then went bankrupt and / or vanished.

In the ongoing debate about how to deal with the current economic insanity in the game, it seems very reasonable for one of the most senior managers in the Premier League to make this kind of point. It?s not just West Ham and Portsmouth?s business ? it?s their effect on the whole game.

The implications of Moyes?s points are pretty clear: that there ought to be a lot more vetting of club owners before they are allowed to run amok for a season or so and then disappear. Kind of thing Platini is looking at as far as I can tell.

Brendan McLaughlin
5 Posted 18/01/2009 at 21:47:44

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Come on guys. Are we now saying that Moyes isn?t allowed to comment on the "bigger picture" in football as he sees it but must confine himself to all things Everton. Lets face it, this was probably a response to a question posed by the interviewer rather than Moyes jumping on a soap box to slag off other clubs. Actually I think Moyes made a very valid & interesting point in a week when everyone?s attention is fixated on Kaka & Man City.

Neil Kendall
6 Posted 18/01/2009 at 22:56:48

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I’ve no doubt that if Bill had let him do it,Moyes would have been offering players the same wages as West Ham and Pompey. Given his own wages are obscene,the man’s a fucking hypocrite.

Philip Harris
7 Posted 18/01/2009 at 23:13:48

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David Moyes -

Doesn’t do politics
Doesn’t do football

Rich Jones
8 Posted 19/01/2009 at 07:59:14

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Philip Harris ? Doesn?t know a good thing when he?s got it.

Iain Love
9 Posted 19/01/2009 at 11:22:19

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Let's take a look at money!!
We get a player costing £15m, a 4-year contract on £30k a week, total cost = £6.2 + £15 = £21.2m. Another team, same player £15m on £60k a week = £27.2m ie + £6.2m extra... times that by say 15 players = £93m divide by 4 years = £23m per year.

If I was Moyes trying to bring players in and someone gazumped me every time, I?d be fucked off, but it does stop you getting mercanaries like Scot Parker who we wanted but who went with the money and really improved his career! Or M'bia, who desperately wanted to join us in the summer but now wants to go to a bigger [paying] club. So being cheapskates can be a good thing sometimes.

Ciarán McGlone
10 Posted 19/01/2009 at 12:32:54

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If only Moyes had the balls to train his apparently intelligent critique of all things financial... in the direction of a certain Mr Billy Boy Kenwright.

Phil Armstrong
11 Posted 20/01/2009 at 02:28:15

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Neil, that's the point that Moyes was making. Kenwright doesn?t let anyone sign for £60k a week because those players aren?t worth it. Whereas Portsmouth and West Ham board/chairman haven?t done that and now find themselves needing to sell their best players to get back on a level footing.