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Great result tonight, obviously. We played tight and patient and competed physically without seeing any red mist.
But I am worried about Big Vic. Where is the player who 2 years ago was coming off the bench and muscling his way to important goals left, right an centre ? especially in Europe? Power, passion, commitment and impossible to knock off a ball??? Now ? and maybe he spent too much time with AJ ? he goes down like a sack of spuds as soon as anyone breathes on him in the box.
I know this kind of stuff is just part of the game today ? but Vic is doing it when he has good goalscoring opportunities, and doing it pretty unconvincingly. Two years ago, I thought there were signs he could develop into a mini-Yak. At the moment, that looks impossible.
Gregg Ainsworth, Posted 19/01/2009 at 21:04:49
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Just before he ?slipped? near the 6 yard box he had shoulder-barged a RS into orbit.
Your thoughts are correct though, we do have another yak in the club ? the diving.
(I thought he had an overall good game, apart from falling down half the time)
Your thoughts are correct though, we do have another yak in the club ? the diving.
(I thought he had an overall good game, apart from falling down half the time)
Under different circumstances, Moyes would have sent him out on loan to gain experience and composure in the Championship, but now he is thrown in the deep end, under pressure situations. That's not easy for Vic. Unless he gains that composure and confidence in front of goal then he will not make it at Premier League level. Next season, when Moyes farms him out, on his return we will see if he is persevered with.
Personally looking at him presently, I don't think he will make it, his control is clumsy and his size seems to be a hinderance. James Vaughan is a different player altogether, a potential star ? but that another thread.
Great performance last night COYB?s
Even though he is fairly useless, he did have a half descent game tonight if a little erratic. I was disappointed Gosling didn't get a crack at RM, but I suppose it was never going to happen seeing as though he is young and it is was such a big game.
Gutsy effort from the boys, I fear though that they will come all guns blazing at us this weekend with Gerrard playing up the field a bit more. We will need to carve out more opportunities. Also removing Hibbert from the field if we are to have better continuity and a real crack at winning. COYB!
Only similaritiss to the Yak are he is black and Nigerian, the Yak can finish; Anichebe cannot, simple as that. But right now we have nothing else.
I personally thought Vic had a good game, don't forget he was up against the likes of Carragher and Hypia, both respectable centre halves. He did give both the wingbacks some problems and subsequently led to the Arteta?s freekick which Cahill converted. He may have had one sure penalty claim dismissed.
If he keeps on playing like how he did today, he will improve for sure. His next 3 games (Shite, Arsenal, ManUtd) would give him some further valuable experiences......
Come On You Blues....
If he keeps on playing like how he did today, he will improve for sure. His next 3 games (Shite, Arsenal, ManUtd) would give him some further valuable experiences......
Come On You Blues....
Your worried about Vic ? I tell you what your not half as worried as Carragher, Hypier and the ugly twat.
I could hardly believe what I was reading when I saw these posts.
Despite being played out of position, Vic did very well, his passing was accurate, he won headers all night, he tracked back well, he forced the Liverpool keeper into a desperate save with a 25yarder in the first minute ! It was his brilliant cross from the right that Cahill got on the end of to force the same keeper to make another save,
The incident your referring to when Vic went down looking for a penalty wasnt a result of a slick move, it was all his own work, he ran to close two men down 45 yards from goal, he rag dolled one, powered past the other into the box, he was knackered and it was on his week foot, so yes, he did go down easily, but there are plenty of referees who would have pointed to the spot at another ground.
What do you want from this kid ??? he was making his 4th prem start this season - third out of position
In the alehouse, after the game, all the RS were saying he was our best player by a mile - probably because he was involved in nearly all of our meaningful attacks
I despair at the need to find a whipping boy amongst our ranks - even after a good result.
I half expecting another post blaiming Hibbert for their goal
I could hardly believe what I was reading when I saw these posts.
Despite being played out of position, Vic did very well, his passing was accurate, he won headers all night, he tracked back well, he forced the Liverpool keeper into a desperate save with a 25yarder in the first minute ! It was his brilliant cross from the right that Cahill got on the end of to force the same keeper to make another save,
The incident your referring to when Vic went down looking for a penalty wasnt a result of a slick move, it was all his own work, he ran to close two men down 45 yards from goal, he rag dolled one, powered past the other into the box, he was knackered and it was on his week foot, so yes, he did go down easily, but there are plenty of referees who would have pointed to the spot at another ground.
What do you want from this kid ??? he was making his 4th prem start this season - third out of position
In the alehouse, after the game, all the RS were saying he was our best player by a mile - probably because he was involved in nearly all of our meaningful attacks
I despair at the need to find a whipping boy amongst our ranks - even after a good result.
I half expecting another post blaiming Hibbert for their goal
I think a lot of these comments are unfair. Vic is probably playing half fit right now. The lone striker role is very difficult especially for a youngster so he’s either playing that at the moment or out of position wide right as he did for most of last night. He had a great shot early on which Reina got down well to, he chased and tracked back, he used his physical presence and generally worked hard. I think he could still develop his game and be a very useful asset to us. Leave off the poor lad!!
First off there’s no question that Vic is not a mini-Yak. Yak has the goalscoring record to prove it. Damn i miss him... and Saha, he impressed me the bit that we saw of him.
Secondly, once our striker injury crisis is over, I think we should sell Vic to a stoke,or championship side and get a couple of million for him while we can
Secondly, once our striker injury crisis is over, I think we should sell Vic to a stoke,or championship side and get a couple of million for him while we can
re Dave Wilson post - I don’t think he had a shocker by the way... I’m just judging him on the type of performance he almost always has for Everton. If we want to climb the ranks in the premiership we cannot hold onto players like Vic... he has had a long time with the club already... he should have been forcing his way into the squad by now... and there’s no doubt that if all the other 3 strikers are fit, they’ll get the nod ahead of him... hell, even our midfielders get first choice striking spots over him
He was excellent, it dissapoints me that people still don’t like praising him even when he plays well. I guess some people look at games with an open mind, some don’t. It’s as simple as that really.
He showed heart, strength, pace and composure. He was a nuisence and him coming inside from the right was great for us. Liverpool couldn’t handle it.
So he went down a little easy....so what? He made up for it by winning the freekick that we ended up scoring from.
Well done Vic, keep it up. If he plays like that week in week out then he should stay in the side.
He showed heart, strength, pace and composure. He was a nuisence and him coming inside from the right was great for us. Liverpool couldn’t handle it.
So he went down a little easy....so what? He made up for it by winning the freekick that we ended up scoring from.
Well done Vic, keep it up. If he plays like that week in week out then he should stay in the side.
Clinton,
How many 19/20 year old strikers in the League force there way into a Premier League side and stay there? Not many if any at all to be honest.
He’s been at the club for a few years yes but he’s still only young and he’s still only made about 25-30 starts, in those he’s scored 11 goals. He’s still very inexperienced in terms of football.
We have a tiny squad, we don’t have the money to add to that squad. No we shouldn’t be getting rid of players like Victor. He’s a squad player and he’s proven he can chip in with goals and he can be useful (on the right) for us.
How many 19/20 year old strikers in the League force there way into a Premier League side and stay there? Not many if any at all to be honest.
He’s been at the club for a few years yes but he’s still only young and he’s still only made about 25-30 starts, in those he’s scored 11 goals. He’s still very inexperienced in terms of football.
We have a tiny squad, we don’t have the money to add to that squad. No we shouldn’t be getting rid of players like Victor. He’s a squad player and he’s proven he can chip in with goals and he can be useful (on the right) for us.
On last nights performance on my telly and not having seen him play before I must say that I can understand all the negative comments about Vic.
He did have a couple of flashes of promise though and if he could do more of that and less of the other we would have a great player on our hands,
He did have a couple of flashes of promise though and if he could do more of that and less of the other we would have a great player on our hands,
I thought he was really good against liverpool. Looked strong and worked hard and gave a good outlet in theair whenever Hibbert panicked in posession.
I would like to see more performances like that. Although i dont really think he’s suited to playing up front on his own
I would like to see more performances like that. Although i dont really think he’s suited to playing up front on his own
I clicked on the link to this thread thinking brilliant Big Vic must be getting the credit he deserved for last nights game. Then I read a lot of negativity. I’m glad others noticed how well he did.
When Vaughan and Vic first broke in to the team I was like others and thought Vanghan was the more talented. Now I think Vic could make it and not Vaughan. Vaughan plays with his head down too much and just tries to knock it past a player and use his pace.
Vic surprised me tonight, strong in the air and his footwork and composure is getting better. I dont think he will become a worldbeater but could grow to be an important player for the remainder of the season. He just seems to need constant encouragement. Cahill keeps providing this aand Vic tries harder.
When Vaughan and Vic first broke in to the team I was like others and thought Vanghan was the more talented. Now I think Vic could make it and not Vaughan. Vaughan plays with his head down too much and just tries to knock it past a player and use his pace.
Vic surprised me tonight, strong in the air and his footwork and composure is getting better. I dont think he will become a worldbeater but could grow to be an important player for the remainder of the season. He just seems to need constant encouragement. Cahill keeps providing this aand Vic tries harder.
I despair of some of the clowns who post messages on here...I’m no great fan of Vic but, let’s be fair, he had a good game last night. Sure,on occasions he does go down too easily for a man of is size, but that apart he played well against one of the top Prem sides who have beaten Utd, Chelsea and us (at home) and were playing well. Give the lad credit where it’s due.
Not a Vic fan he’s lazy gets knocked off the ball to easily [ 50-50 with lucas Vic went down ] and his touch and distribution isn’t great. That said he was alright last night.
As for the dive he did well to get there but didn’t know what to do when he was there, a decent striker would have played for a corner or waited for the tackle or shock horror shot at goal. I would expect him to retain his place for the cup match but unless he does better he’s out when Screech is available again.
As a footnote did he do well last night because " he did well " or "he was better than our low expectations".
As for the dive he did well to get there but didn’t know what to do when he was there, a decent striker would have played for a corner or waited for the tackle or shock horror shot at goal. I would expect him to retain his place for the cup match but unless he does better he’s out when Screech is available again.
As a footnote did he do well last night because " he did well " or "he was better than our low expectations".
You don’t get in to the Nigerian national side if your a shite player.
Well done Vic, you did a good (but not great) job last night.
Well done Vic, you did a good (but not great) job last night.
I’ve slated Anichebe plenty of late, but last night I think he had a good game in that he worked very hard and in some ways reminded me of Kuyt. Perhaps Vic’s position isn’t striker at all, and that he should carry on being employed in the Kuyt role.
Just a thought.
Up the blues, roll on Sunday!
Just a thought.
Up the blues, roll on Sunday!
Gotta disagree with you here. Yes he may not be "prem quality" in terms of touch and finishing but neither was big Dunc. Vic was very effective last night feeding off scraps, chasing lost causes a great shot in the first minute, a great run and cross for Tim’s header. He was a constant physical threat to their CBs, could have had a pen with his superb battling (and skilfull) run, and showed great heart and commitment to win the free-kick for the goal. I lost count of the number of times Coward Webb let Carragher and Herpia clatter him from behind.
Its amazing how people watch the match and see things so differently. I thought when Anichebe broke through a few years ago that he would be a good impact player. Howver, after last night, I think he is lazy, has a bad attitude and crap. Throwing himself on the floor when he got near the box. The sight of him strolling round that pitch was too much for me. I hope we can get someone in this week on loan.
How far away is Saha anyway?
I thought Victors was fantastic, many of the older experienced players couldnt wait to get rid of the ball, it was like a hot potato to them, Victor on the other hand would either take the ball and run at people when facing goal or with his back to goal win most of his headers aginst 2 top CBs or use his power and strength to hold off defenders and shield the ball, The only dissapointment was his dive, but he’l learn.
Vic is frustrating at times, but he was great last night. More of the same please. As for going down too easy, he is still learning the game. He will improve in time. I must say though he played better last night than I ever thought he could...
I didn't think he did much last night.
Victor = the black McFadden.
Victor = the black McFadden.
I wejnt to my friends who is a Man U supporter & watched the game on his 42 inch tv set . He was amazed with the power Victor showed, & he was as posted on this thread involved in everything we did well last night. Both He & Cahill had very little service the gap between the strike force & the midfield was alarming at times. I do get fed up on many forums who lable him as useless lazy etc, He ran his soclks off last night, He held the ball up well & turned with it at speed. & was chopped down for the freekick that made the goal!
My favorite moment when he headed the ball in a challange with Alonso & carried through & gave Alonso whiplash of his neck ! I did not see Alonso do much after that!!!!
I just wonder what fans would be saying if in the firs minute when he chested it down & volled it if it had screamed in to the net ??????
This lad will make the grade, Joe Royle was picked on for ages before he became a very good striker as he was young & raw, but he put him self about just like Victor did for us last night!!!!!!
My favorite moment when he headed the ball in a challange with Alonso & carried through & gave Alonso whiplash of his neck ! I did not see Alonso do much after that!!!!
I just wonder what fans would be saying if in the firs minute when he chested it down & volled it if it had screamed in to the net ??????
This lad will make the grade, Joe Royle was picked on for ages before he became a very good striker as he was young & raw, but he put him self about just like Victor did for us last night!!!!!!
Dave Wilson, I’m in complete agreement with you, I was waiting for the anti-Anichebe articles to start flowing. After the match I thought Victor did well, I then stayed up till after 12 so I could watch the extended highlights on Everton TV, and it showed all our best moments, and guess who was involved in all of them, Big Vic.
His half volley with his weaker foot, his cross onto Cahills head, holding off two reds to supply Baines, making Alonso and Skrtel look like sunday league players as he went past them (yes he shouldn’t of dived but look how well he did to get there), and winning the free kick from whence we scored.
Now I’m not saying I’m convinced Vic will ’make it’, but I do think alot of these negitive comments were premeditated, and if you anaylise his performance you will see he played his part last night. Also, Jay Campbell, I dont know what you think gives you the right to call someone you’ve never met a twat, if you’ve got criticisms about his performance then say so, but by resorting to abuse you only weaken your own argument.
His half volley with his weaker foot, his cross onto Cahills head, holding off two reds to supply Baines, making Alonso and Skrtel look like sunday league players as he went past them (yes he shouldn’t of dived but look how well he did to get there), and winning the free kick from whence we scored.
Now I’m not saying I’m convinced Vic will ’make it’, but I do think alot of these negitive comments were premeditated, and if you anaylise his performance you will see he played his part last night. Also, Jay Campbell, I dont know what you think gives you the right to call someone you’ve never met a twat, if you’ve got criticisms about his performance then say so, but by resorting to abuse you only weaken your own argument.
Yes,
I was fuming at that big lad on his knees with his hands in the air all game, or on his heels when we broke into the box.
Although he performed better than I expected, he is not good enough.
I was fuming at that big lad on his knees with his hands in the air all game, or on his heels when we broke into the box.
Although he performed better than I expected, he is not good enough.
I’m glad there are many toffeeweb reader’s who recognise that big Victor is a good player and has the potential to become a very good player. You have to despair at the negative comments attributed to him.It nearly seems like some people do not want him to succeed. Give the lad the support and encouragement he deserves and we will continue to see an already good player become even better.
I was at the match last nite. I did notice that Victor could put a bit more of a "shift" in than he does- he seemed to stroll around the field when all evertonians were screaming at him to run and close people down. Otherwise i thought he did ok.
Victor did alot more than Osman, Peinar and arteta. It was a difficult game away at Anfield so you have got to expect players being tackled or giving up possession. If that was a great performance from everton (which it was), and Victor was one of our better players on the night, then it was a great performance from Victor. Some evertonians can’t resist a good old moan though
I just dont think some of you get it.
Our financial situation doesnt look like improving anytime soon, Vic cost nothing, he’s an apprentice. Of course if he is to become a long term asset - saving us a fortune - the coaching staff have a lot of work to do, but a blind man can see they have something to work with.
Les Ferdinand and Ian wright were both about 5 years older than Vic is now before they could even get a club to take them on, look how they turned out ?
I fear the seemingly endless stream of ignorant comments will destroy this lad.
The shite had about 60 million quids worth of attacking talent on the pitch last night, our boy puts a full 90 min shift in, outshines them all . . . then gets slaughtered
you couldnt make it up
Our financial situation doesnt look like improving anytime soon, Vic cost nothing, he’s an apprentice. Of course if he is to become a long term asset - saving us a fortune - the coaching staff have a lot of work to do, but a blind man can see they have something to work with.
Les Ferdinand and Ian wright were both about 5 years older than Vic is now before they could even get a club to take them on, look how they turned out ?
I fear the seemingly endless stream of ignorant comments will destroy this lad.
The shite had about 60 million quids worth of attacking talent on the pitch last night, our boy puts a full 90 min shift in, outshines them all . . . then gets slaughtered
you couldnt make it up
these noway will can get through the match again on sunday without making any subs so david moyes has to sign someone by sunday all this talk about the takeover was all lies
I didn’t watch the game last night (won’t step foot in analfield and cannot watch Derbies on the telly) however the lad who sits next to me in work is a redshite and was saying that Vic had a good game and tormented Hypia and Carragher all game, he said he can’t remember Hypia being outfought so much in one game.
I can’t offer much myself other than he annoys me but I feel he could make the grade if he gets out of his "laxy" streak.
I expect a "anti Hibbert" rant soon, a slight one already in this one and I expect Tony Marsh to stay quite quiet. Does anyone else find is coincidental that he turned up to do an article just before the run of 4 atrocious games?
I can’t offer much myself other than he annoys me but I feel he could make the grade if he gets out of his "laxy" streak.
I expect a "anti Hibbert" rant soon, a slight one already in this one and I expect Tony Marsh to stay quite quiet. Does anyone else find is coincidental that he turned up to do an article just before the run of 4 atrocious games?
Christ, Its embarassing having ?fellow? fans such as many above.
Respect to Dave Wilson for the first accurate post regarding big Vic.
He quite clearly played a good game out of position. He worked hard (try watching players off the ball!). He did NOT got down easy, I mean hench players of his mould only have short bursts of energy and having already made up ground/beat a man I think he can be forgiven for being caught off balance.
Dont get me wrong, last night was sadly an exception for big Vic and I would be pleased with/for him if he could produce such effort/performance more often.
Respect to Dave Wilson for the first accurate post regarding big Vic.
He quite clearly played a good game out of position. He worked hard (try watching players off the ball!). He did NOT got down easy, I mean hench players of his mould only have short bursts of energy and having already made up ground/beat a man I think he can be forgiven for being caught off balance.
Dont get me wrong, last night was sadly an exception for big Vic and I would be pleased with/for him if he could produce such effort/performance more often.
I thought Vic had a decent game last night. But I agree with the post above, about loaning him out to a championship side. I know at the moment he has to stay because of injuries, but it would be good for him to get a run in a side, and there is a team ready made for him, Preston.
Moyes should have a word with Irvine, and see if he would be intrested in taking the lad.
Moyes should have a word with Irvine, and see if he would be intrested in taking the lad.
He is lazy. Too many times i saw him make no effort to get to a pass. And whilst the Yak is lazy... at least he is clinical.
What a load of bollox!
For a youngster who has recently been injured and hardly started a game in the last 18 months, he did great.
Some of yu people are never happy.
Give him a run in the team and he’ll prove you wrong.
For a youngster who has recently been injured and hardly started a game in the last 18 months, he did great.
Some of yu people are never happy.
Give him a run in the team and he’ll prove you wrong.
GUY wilikinson obviously knows nothing about football nothing last night? yeah put the cross in for cahill to force the save off reina, had a good effort on goal in the first minute won us the freekick that we scored from and caused a niucance of himself throughout the game... he had very little service and done well with what he made. he dived yeah but he made that chance him self. so guy yeah he did nothing. divvi
Thought Big Victor was really good last night. Can’t believe people are wanting rid of him, i mean seriously? He reminds of me of a slightly more mobile Duncan Ferguson type of player but without all the yellow / red cards in the way that he’s unplayable when he’s on top form. Victor will come very good, trust me.
He was had his chance to imprint his name on Merseyside Derby Blue Folklore when he chased 2 liverpool defenders down giving them a 10 yeard head start, charged one defender, left him on the ground eating dirt, (was it Carragher?) and then easily went through another (was it Skrtyle?), he was 1on1 with the keeper, my heart was in my mouth with excitement, "open up your right foot and put it through Reina’s legs and make a hero of yourself tonight" i thought...and he bloody dived.
I nearly punched the wall with pure frustration, if he had buried that instead of going down far too easily, then we would still be talking about THAT goal in 20 years time, i hope he realises that and if he does that again just buries it in the net and thinks about it after that.
Naturally Liverpool went straight up the park and The Accused buried it. That made my frustration with Big Vic so much much worse!!!
But i’m not having any of this get rid of him crap, he’s one for the future, i reckon him and Vaughany (if he stays fit) will be a cracking partnership in the future, we just need a bit of patience with and fully support the both of them.
P.S. Anyone else notice Jags and Lescott being bear hugged on our equalising goal (God Bless you Tiny Tim, love you to bits wee man, you’re a legend my son and you made this working week so much better for so many of us!!!)?
He was had his chance to imprint his name on Merseyside Derby Blue Folklore when he chased 2 liverpool defenders down giving them a 10 yeard head start, charged one defender, left him on the ground eating dirt, (was it Carragher?) and then easily went through another (was it Skrtyle?), he was 1on1 with the keeper, my heart was in my mouth with excitement, "open up your right foot and put it through Reina’s legs and make a hero of yourself tonight" i thought...and he bloody dived.
I nearly punched the wall with pure frustration, if he had buried that instead of going down far too easily, then we would still be talking about THAT goal in 20 years time, i hope he realises that and if he does that again just buries it in the net and thinks about it after that.
Naturally Liverpool went straight up the park and The Accused buried it. That made my frustration with Big Vic so much much worse!!!
But i’m not having any of this get rid of him crap, he’s one for the future, i reckon him and Vaughany (if he stays fit) will be a cracking partnership in the future, we just need a bit of patience with and fully support the both of them.
P.S. Anyone else notice Jags and Lescott being bear hugged on our equalising goal (God Bless you Tiny Tim, love you to bits wee man, you’re a legend my son and you made this working week so much better for so many of us!!!)?
Dave Wilson
You are spot on.
We must be the worst club in the league for never being happy with our own.
Whether it be Hibbo,Ossie or now big Vic.
The lad has hardly had a chance.
Give him a run of 5 or 6 games like we are now doing with Baines and you’ll see the difference.
Vic has no fear and to see Hypia and Skrtl terrified of him was a joy to behold.
I thought him and Baines were outstanding last night and should be encouraged not criticised.
Get behind the lad and see what confidence does for a player.
You are spot on.
We must be the worst club in the league for never being happy with our own.
Whether it be Hibbo,Ossie or now big Vic.
The lad has hardly had a chance.
Give him a run of 5 or 6 games like we are now doing with Baines and you’ll see the difference.
Vic has no fear and to see Hypia and Skrtl terrified of him was a joy to behold.
I thought him and Baines were outstanding last night and should be encouraged not criticised.
Get behind the lad and see what confidence does for a player.
I hope Victor doese not read these negative remarks against him, he was just behind TC as the MOTM1
You all have very shor memories remember a certain useless James Beattie a guy who could not trap a bag of cement & cost 6 million pounds & went 12 months with out a goal in open play!
Victor cost us nothing & last night I thought He & Tim on their own ran the LFC defence hard when they got support. both Osman & Piennaar imo were both poor last night in supplying any support to them, but not one mention of them having an average game!
You all have very shor memories remember a certain useless James Beattie a guy who could not trap a bag of cement & cost 6 million pounds & went 12 months with out a goal in open play!
Victor cost us nothing & last night I thought He & Tim on their own ran the LFC defence hard when they got support. both Osman & Piennaar imo were both poor last night in supplying any support to them, but not one mention of them having an average game!
Joey
I live in Canada and watched the game with different commentators... who gave the MOTM to Pienaar. Funny olde game hey!
Quite often players work hard to do a selfless job in tracking back etc and dont get the credit they deserve. WIth all the effort the players put in last night I hope also that they dont read the shite written on here - it’s a good job they seem to believe in themselves hey and they dont have to rely on us lot for it.
I live in Canada and watched the game with different commentators... who gave the MOTM to Pienaar. Funny olde game hey!
Quite often players work hard to do a selfless job in tracking back etc and dont get the credit they deserve. WIth all the effort the players put in last night I hope also that they dont read the shite written on here - it’s a good job they seem to believe in themselves hey and they dont have to rely on us lot for it.
Vic played out of his skin and for me epitomised the spirit up front.. NO ONE this season has had a better game up front on his OWN. Single handedly he kept two Liverpool defenders fully occupied and provided us with an outlet. He beat men on thefloor, won every header and won the free kick for Cahill's goal!! My God I cannot understand the vitriol hurled at this kid by our own so called fans.... Get a fucking life.
Ask the Koppites what they thought of him and I bet that the much vaunted top class Liverpool defence were damn glad to see the back of him.
Everyone is praising Cahill and completely forgetting the local lad who showed a lot of ability on Tuesday night and he will definitely prove the better prospect than Vaughan. 0I couldn?t see the likes of Owen or Defoe upsetting Liverpool as much as big Vic did. You must have no knowledge of football at all to just hero worship one or two players who can do no wrong in your eyes... he best players on the pitch for me were the local lads... Jags, Baines,Vic and even Hibbo... the defence were magnificent against a first class Liverpool team... give Vic a break !!
In the lead up to the derby I have criticised Vic and I stand by what I said. In fact last night proved the point.
His attitude, effort and performance against the RS last night was a major factor in us getting something from the game. He put himself about and caused them trouble consistently.
So fair play to him and well done last night he had a good game and reminded us of the good displays he put in last season.
But why can’t he show desire and attitude like that every week. I accept that he can’t perform like that every week given his age and inexperience but attitude and desire should be a given. Quite simply it has’nt been.
More of last night Vic and you will make it impossible for David Moyes to leave you out. Look at what Leighton Baines has done - grabbed the chance he was given culminating in a superb display last night.
Vic is still raw material but he showed last night that he can be a premiership player - if he wants it enough.
His attitude, effort and performance against the RS last night was a major factor in us getting something from the game. He put himself about and caused them trouble consistently.
So fair play to him and well done last night he had a good game and reminded us of the good displays he put in last season.
But why can’t he show desire and attitude like that every week. I accept that he can’t perform like that every week given his age and inexperience but attitude and desire should be a given. Quite simply it has’nt been.
More of last night Vic and you will make it impossible for David Moyes to leave you out. Look at what Leighton Baines has done - grabbed the chance he was given culminating in a superb display last night.
Vic is still raw material but he showed last night that he can be a premiership player - if he wants it enough.
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