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The missing link!?
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The game last night was the perfect example of the 'Everton' attitude: spirit, heart ? call it what you want but not once did we give in against a team who could in all honesty, with the right tactics, have played us off the park. We were as close a nit team as I have EVER seen (none of the 80s, but the '95 FA Cup final).
The players were all playing for each other, and not themselves. They were prepared to put themselves on the line for the cause. Regardless of style of play, this is what makes Everton who we are. Long balls or keeping it on the deck, the effort is never compromised.
The formation 4-6-0 whether it be through luck or genius, it compliments our 'never say die' attitude. When in possession, any two of our six midfielders bust a gut to get up front and make things happen. When we don't, we have six midfielders behind the ball closing up the shop. This is only possible with the level of fitness we have at Everton. Defending from the front.
As much as I like him, and I think he still has a job to do at Everton, I think Anichebe is the weak link. Through both ability and commitment but both of these may come with time and experience.
This brings me on to the question, who could bridge that gap?
It would have to be someone with a big heart, someone who plays for the cause and not himself, someone who defends from the front and someone with the ability to turn things around if we are not on form. It hate to say it but I believe one Wayne Rooney would complete our team and have us challenging on ALL fronts.
I am not from Liverpool myself but it is still so obvious to me that this lad is a scouser, and a blue one at that! His natural game is to play deep when he doesn't have the ball, defending from the front, trying to win the ball back for the team, and should the team pick it up, his first thought is GOAL. Whether it be a shot, picking out a pass, or even off the ball running, it doesn't matter to him. To have the team to score in any way possible. This is the Everton way in my eyes.
Would he come? Why not? He left not for love of money, but to win trophies, and we all would if we were honest with ourselves wouldn't we? The thing is, he has now won the league and the Champions League (everything except the FA cup). I guarantee he looked at last night's result absolutely gutted not to be involved, though still beaming inside!
He is still young and he puts on a brave face in front of us but I think it's an act. He would be made up if we opened up to him as I think deep down there is love, and that love is a two way street. Once a blue always a blue? Absolutely.
We now have the resources (not talking about money) to match his ambition and just like Shearer returned to Newcastle (after winning the Prem), I believe Rooney would love to come home to Goodison Park, to have us singing his name again, to be involved in the biggest game in world football (a derby) would mean the world to him.
Start some rumours, get the press talking about it. We need to sew the seeds in the minds of both manager and player. Get them both thinking about it for a while. The good ol days. ? I have no idea who would call who what with David and Wayne being who they are (both as stubborn as each other). I do however believe that the manager would after some weeks/months of thinking about it, being the mature one of the two, bite the bullet and make contact.
Possible (obvious) stumbling blocks: Alex Ferguson's desire to keep the lad, and plain old hard cash!
Yet there is hope: The Yak cost ~£12M, Fellaini cost ~£15M. So, finding £20M is not beyond inconceivable this coming summer. Selling the Yak for £15m and you are close to having a leg to stand on, and if the player wants to go...
*Sigh* I just had the craziest dream!
Brett Bradshaw, Posted 20/01/2009 at 10:38:38
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I would not have that little gobshite Rooney back for all the tea in China.
In contrast, I was full of admiration for how hard Kuyt worked for Liverpool. Now, the guy is never going to be prolific, he’s never going to be the greatest footballer in the world and he’s never going to be a fan’s favourite. But my god he’ll work hard, in any position, for every single match. In many respects, he’s the perfect David Moyes player. Is he what we need? Long term, I doubt it, unless we’re going to play 4-4-2. Short-term, I think he’d be a tremendous acquistion to our current bunch of players.
Of course, what we’d all like to see is someone who has Kuyt’s workrate, Rooney’s desire, Kaka’s skill and Owen’s finishing ability. Sadly, I think we’ll just have to keep dreaming on that one.
And before anyone starts mouthing off about me wanting to sign Kuyt - I don’t! I was just struck with how bloody hard he worked last night, and I admire that in a player.
However, why look to raise £20m which would not be enough, why not turn to a young lad we have... Gosling. In the times hes played, hes defended from the front, I remember at middelsborough he tracked the ball from 1 wing to the other, pressuring every defender and eventually making a brilliant tackle and winning a throw in for us. Also he busted a gut to get forward with attacks, and got in scoring positions several times in his short appearances, He could of had a hatrik against boro, he scored the following week.
He looks like he would be a very commited player, who looks comfortable on the ball, he will work for the team. I think gosling could actually be the missing link. I would have been very happy to see goslings name on the team sheet ahead of victor. And i would love it if gosling started in the FA cup. He looks mature enough to be able to deal with being thrown in at the deep end, and after he got a standing ovation from histeam mates for his performance at boro i think they would all work hard for him in that game and he would fit in very well.
So start ur whispers and rumours and maybe gosling will play on sunday?
I admire your ability to forgive Brett, but I for one cannot (and I think there would be a few more in my shoes). The lad has long gone. He now kisses the Man Utd badge and seems to love doing so. I’m sure all the money helps with that.
It will never happen and nor should it. He is scum.
As for Anichebe, The lad was knackered, plain and simple, I’m amazed he found the energy for theat "penalty" run, and with a subs bench with more "trusted" players on it he’d have been given a rest. We’re at the bare bones and if players start to tire, as they did last year, we could find ourselves drifting out of the top 6.
Of course if they don’t there’s a genuine chance of joining / replacing Villa in the top 4. Preferably 3rd as 4th place has a nightmare qualification next season.
Get the manure badge kissing little twonk back!
NO!
We sold him for £27M (kinda) and that was 4 years ago. Take the footy inflation and now he’s worth £1.4 billion, or thereabouts.
Plus the fact he’s a total bellend.
Let me open this for debate, the wholly more likely acquisition of Michael Owen? With our 9 hard working players behind him creating chances he would score a shedload!
He’s playing for a shit team and I reckon he would join us.
Your thoughts?
RS past behind him he is a blue and if he was offered the chance to push us up to the level we should be as a club I think he’d jump at it!
I think his Dad would certainly encourage him anyway.
Its Australia Day on Sunday when we play the RS in the FA Cup - lets hope that Timmy scores a winner.
The badge kissing tells a story but I could see that being an act, in reply to the banter we give him.
OK Kuyt has workrate, kaka skill and owen finishing, but doesn’t Rooney have them all? Having them all was key to the point, and being able to drop into a 6 man midfield where play would dictate who pushes up front and who tracks back, all interchanging. It’s unpredictable, similar to how Cahill works from midfield.
I would love for Dan Gosling to come through and fit in with the team ethic, James Vaughan is in the same mould but is too injury prone. Shame.
I agree that Owen may well be able to come in and do a job as the one ’lazy’ player in the team. The Yak does it very well. To me though, the system would be flawed because it’s just a 4-5-1.
Get a grip you daft bugger.
He’s not a bad player - he’s just at the wrong club.
Rooney will never come back to us - that bridge has been well and truly napalmed!
Brett, seriously put that crack pipe down mate, it’s doing you no favours.
Everyone expected him to do everything!
Do you remember where we finished in the league in his last season?
Do you remember where we finished the season after we sold him?
When he went we worked as a team, before hand we expected him to score all our goals and create all our chances.
As a wise man once crooned....."The thrill is gone...."
Im not sure how happy he would be playing in midfield though.
Two players of real quality we should be looking at our Javier Saviola and Fred.
Saviola has played for both Barcelona & Real Madrid, has been described by Maradona as his player and is on the list compiled by FIFA and Pele of the 100 greatest living players. He nearly left Madrid for the barcodes last year but has now been told he’s not needed by Madrid. He’s always stated his desire to play in England and he’s the kind of player who would fit right into our current side. Apparently he’s entertaining a move to Pompey, which indicates wages aren’t that much of an issue. Surely we must be a more attractive prospect than that sinking ship?
Fred is a Brazil international currently playing for Lyon. He’s had his chances limited by the system using Benzema as a lone striker. He’s had a row with their Director and has been told he’s played his last game. Crucially, he’s been linked with Stoke. Stoke!?!?! If he’s considering going there, he should definately be wooed by playing for a club of the stature of Everton.
These are players we should realistically focus our efforts on attaining. Both have contracts expiring in the summer, meaning we could get them on those lovely buy now, pay later deals that Blue Bill so adores. Forget pipe dreams about Rooney or wastes of money like Owen. Get on these 2 boys!
He has been royally pissed on by both the Spanish big boys without being given a real chance and is so willing to drop a level in stature to be given a chance to prove himself.
I don’t know about Fred, I’ve never seen him play but Javier Saviola would be amazing!
A change of luck for James Vaughan could be the best answer for the team. It is a funny old game, but can’t see it. Big Vic showed signs last night he can be a big asset, he needs to stop going down too easily though. I reckon if Vic could get a meaner, hungrier, nastier more arrogant attitude when he crosses the line we’d be in business.
Aside from the ridiculous notion of him returning, why would Man U make the same mistake as us in letting one of the world’s talents leave for a fraction of his value! If Kaka is worth £100m then Rooney is certainly worth more than £20m.
I dont know what drugs you?re on but they are obviously similar to Benitez?s medicine.
1. Big Vic was great last night and terrified Hypia and Skrtl.
2. Rooney cannot and will not come back to EFC.
3. To even consider Billy liar could find/would give 20 million is laughable.
4.Rooney would be worth at least 40 million even with the credit crunch.
In summary - Daft post.
As a 15 year old he looked as if he’d develop into a player of the stature of Maradona or Eusabio ; in other words a great player.
He’ll never be anywhere near that standard... and I’d not have him back for £20 million, regardless of his skill.
This lad will be an English international, its only his terrible injury record that has stopped hsi consistency and therefore a move to another club-Everton please.
Also i agree with the comments about Kuyt, a super player, 100% everygame, Rafas best buy
I cannot forgive his stinking attitude whenever he returns to Goodison. What happens to ’Once a Blue, Always a Blue’ then? I hate to say it but I’m ashamed he is allegedly an Evertonian.
Also, we seem to be forgetting that Moyes took him to court and won! How would that relationship work??!
Let him stay and rot where he is, he appears to enjoy it there.....
why did we not put van der meyde on last night for the last few minutes? would have given him some match fitness and he could of found a winner for us? or created one?! personally id rather play him than anichebe and leave cahill up front! you can never have too much creativity in a team!
Look at the "Everton Pride" thread......
All your questions will be answered. We have had a full blown debate about that mate......
Ask Ciaran.
I think you need to ’Talk to Frank’
Once a treacherous little prick, always a treacherous little prick.
Fuck me......
This thread is unbelievable.
Brett - was the dream you happily referred to a wet one?
There is a truism in life "never go back it is never as good 2nd time around". Rooney has gone - move on.
Or in your case "dream on" - I hope puberty allows you many more wet ones. Just not in front of your mum - ok.
Can anyone confirm that with Man Utd in the League Cup final... if they win it will that release 6th place for UEFA Cup or does it go to the FA Cup final losers? I seem to remember it goes to FA Cup losers...
As a person he is despised by Evertonians and I can’t see him fitting in with the current lads. The crap he has carried on with every time he comes back to Goodison just shows he never respected this club and should never be welcomed back. Basically he can go get fucked.
Everyone’s so hard on Vic, he played a lone striker role that has little end reward. Without many recent games under is belt the guy was a pest for the RS. Forced a good save from Reina and set-up Cahill.
He does go down too easy but that comes with youth. Running up a down the field for 90 minutes is almost impossible. Moyes likely told the team to play for the set-piece. Hence the the goal we scored.w
Kuyt was M.I.A. for parts of that game.
The perfect player for us would be scarface (Tevez) . That guy works hard and his skill would be welcomed to the team.
Homo erectus was the forerunner to modern humans.
Neandertal man is the forerunner to Wayne Rooney.
We are NOT on the same wavelength at all - Robbie Keane is a strker - full stop.
I happen to think Rooney is a striker as well.
I wasnt agreeing with your thinking - just defending Keane - he’s a good player at the wrong (for all kinds of reasons) club!
Podolski has just agreed to return to Cologne, but the difference is that in his heart he never left Cologne, and the Cologne supporters never stopped wishing he?d return, never considering him a traitor for going to Bayern.
In Cologne, a fan website with 10,000 members was created solely to try and persuade Podolski back, the Cologne mayor actively supported the cause, and even the local philharmonic orchestra and choir came out with a CD with a song about how good it would be if he returned. None of this mutual feeling exists between Everton fans and Rooney, as many posts here exhibit.
Go to google images and type in Natalie Rooney Everton - trust me lads well worth it!

