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Watson, Hunt, Heskey, Bullard, etc
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I know Moyes has stated there is no money available but I can't help feeling disappointed that we continue to miss out on some good players who would improve our squad.
I really think that at £2 Million Ben Watson could be the next player who could have made the grade following on from Lescott, Cahill and Jags. I know Heskey is not prolific but can definitely do a job up there. Jimmy Bullard has got a great engine and would be a good addition. The same goes for Hunt at £5 million it is not exactly massive fee's for these players.
How exactly can Moyes continue to improve the squad on loan players alone? At least in the summer we was linked with players so there was always a chance of a signing but this month has been the quietest I have seen for a long time.
Will we sign anyone this month?
Scott Jenner, Posted 23/01/2009 at 12:29:12
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Agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment Scott, but please be realistic and not critical...we’re not signing these players because there is NO money available.
Be positive about the effort the boys put in on Monday night.
Be positive about the fact that we’re one of the form sides in the country.
Be positive about the fact that we’ve conceded one goal in 7 games.
Be certain that we’re skint.
Please don’t be disappointed.
Bullard = old and over-rated.
Heskey = average player having a good season.
Not one of them would improve our squad, striker injury crisis or not.
Moyes can't spend at all. He can only bring in free trransfers or free loan deals.
How many players good enough to play for us (and improve our squad) can be acquired under those restrictions?
Cheer the boys on Sunday, and lets hope for the best. The depressing thing is that, until BK is replaced with someone who has ambition and financial means, this complete lack of financial clout is our future for a long time to come...
Let?s just hope Moyes has someone else up his sleeve, it?s just very annoying that Moyes always waits until the very end of the transfer window before bringing anyone in!
And I am hoping Mr Kenrick is totally wrong, if not then fair do?s, but there's a week left yet, and there is better out there. In Moyes we Trust.
Opportunity lost, despite what Michael may say. He may be a "no-mark" as you put it Michael, but I doubt you?re on £40k per week, so.... I suspect his words for you would be even less kind than that!
Everton are not very appealing to players because they know we have no money ? put it this way, would you join a company (especially in the current climate) that publicly had no cash whatsoever? I know I wouldn't.
De Jong and, especially, Palacios would have been great signings for us, well, if we had ANY money that is.
Look at the trend. Felliani, Moutinho, Yakubu, etc...
Moyes has proven that he will NOT spend money or waste time chasing those not worthy of Chelsea, Manchester United, etc.
We are going forward with a manager who will not compromise on ambition. I am ecstatic that he is that stubbornly ambitious.
I am happy to wait 7 months for Moyes to buy that 1 or 2 player/s who will pull us up above 5 place.
NSNO!
We are not likely to sign a better player than Cahill on loan so they will be cover for him and Anichebe until we start getting players back.
We will be lucky if they are better than Gosling or Rodwell!
I would like to see Jose Baxter given a run rather than a loan..
Crap in means crap out on the pitch.
Do you just want something new to moan about?
FFS start a hobby or get a girlfriend then you won't have to think about such nonsense.
if rumours are true then Fellaini cost £15 million Euro?s which at the time was about £11 million of which only a certain amount was paid up front out of the sale of Andy Johnson. Billy Liar?s black hole is a difficult one to work out but you can be certain we have run out of credit and have no money.
As far as your unfathomable (read illogical) conclusion that Scott is inferring that ?Moyes must buy for the sake of buying?, I fail to see where he has said or even inferred this. Scott?s comments to the effect that ??I can?t help feeling disappointed that we continue to miss out on some good players who would improve our squad? is anything but about Moyes buying for the sake of buying.
Forgetting any opinions I might have about the quality of those players he has mentioned, my take is that it is a valid statement from an Evertonian expressing disappointment about a manager who has consistently said he is trying to improve his squad not actually appearing to do anything about the situation and is missing out on various players who are currently available.
Granted, Moyes has said from the start that he has no money to buy but he has said repeatedly in a number of forums over the past two months that he will be seeking loan players to both increase the quality and the quantity of players available to him. It is probably also a statement of disappointment about a manager who every year falls back on the excuse (as Maurice has correctly pointed out) that ?we have run out of resources? to explain our usual drop in form towards the end of each season, apparently not doing anything to address this situation.
As far as your concluding lines ?Do you just want something new to moan about?? and the absolute classic ?FFS start a hobby or get a girlfriend then you won?t have to think about such nonsense? go, they have revealed far more about your shortcomings than any appearing in Scott?s post and leave me asking you the questions ?Have you had a bad day and just want to kick someone?? and ?FFS why do you feel the need to parade your obvious intolerance of others? views and your inadequacies so publicly??
Moyes rightly says that the most important players at a club are the ones already there, not the next big signing. The team has coped admirably since the loss of Yakubu and Saha. Some would say the performances have improved considerably. Certainly Baines has been a revelation and Fellaini has really come into his own. Arteta and Lescott have dramatically improved.
It would be good to bring in a striker but for me it would have to be someone who could bring something extra to the team. Even if you had big money, would you spend it? What happens when everyone is fit? Do you really want someone on £30k a week scratching their arse in the reserves?
The days of fantasy football are over. The Walter Smith squad of thirty players when we weren?t even competing in Europe are well gone (Linderoth? Alexanderson?). I have to hand it to Moyes, even Shandy Andy looks keen at the moment (I know his contract is up soon and this may have more to do with him looking lively). I?d rather give Jutkiewicz or Agard a chance than Mido. Middlesboro are an honest team and he hasn?t pulled his weight there.
COYB, 4th is still a possibility if we can maintain our improvement and I?m sure the RS are more nervous than us about Sunday.
The squad is the same size, if not smaller than it was this time last season, and we have a MASSIVE cup tie on Sunday. If we get beat, is that going to trigger another run like we had after Fiorentina? Fatigue and a loss of confidence?
People say Mido, Marlon King etc and other players going out on loan aren't good enough for us. I personally think we need to get anyone in now to cover us until the end of the season. Yet again, Billy Bollocks promised new faces at the start of the January window, and yet again we are sitting here with just over a week to go with our arses twitching.
Why do we continually take injury-prone people on loan? Aston Villa are obviously making a determined push this season and they have one thing that our club lacks... AMBITION ? that's what makes Scott and myself sad. If we have any injuries to the likes of Jags, Arteta or Howard, we are in the shit... can't you 'head in the sand' people see that? Fellaini is likely to be suspended again at least once and so is Cahill... what are our alternatives???
It was really embarrassing to see our bench when we were going through the lean spell at the start of the season and even now it is threadbare. We are operating on a shoestring and without investment it will not improve... are we the only club with no money???
There is something ?rotten? going on because we get extra money for finishing high in the table so how can other teams below us be more active in the transfer market than we are???
I want well informed and knowledgeable answers to these questions and not guesses by people who don't know the real answers... I am sad like many other fans of this great club who want us to be credible challengers for trophies instead of the Mother Hubbards of the Premier League.
DM has done wonders with his ?ragtag? heroes... but how long will it last before the bubble bursts? We need ambition and investment.
I do have to say I would have enjoyed seeing Stephen Hunt ferreting about down the flanks at Goodison. Ah, and those flowing locks would have transported me back to the days of Latchford and King.
The problem we have is the team always goes on a good run when the squad needs strengthening. It seems to deceive the management and board that everything’s okay and therefore we don’t need any reinforcements. It now appears like the club have given up even trying to sign anyone. A real lack of forward planning could totally scupper our season.
And we needed quantity as well as quality. That?s why the team picks itself on Sunday. What we got for £15m is someone who wasn?t as important to the teams midfield as the very average Carsley. The side could have been strengthened significantly if only a bit of common sense had been used.
He also wouldn?t be a ?Carsley replacement? ? he?s not a defensive midfielder... and now Arteta?s found form in the middle we really don?t need another CM, not as a priority anyway. I would maybe have taken Stephen Hunt to have a left-footed option out wide who can pop up with a goal but even if we had some money, I don?t think he?s worth £5M.
You can continue to bury your head in the sand and think our squad is big enough to maintain the 100% they give week-in, week-out but the fact of the matter is our squad is just not big enough and the time will come where they will burn out. I am as optimistic as everyone that we will sign top quality players but these type of players are the only players who were available in the price range we can afford.
I know we have not got any money, which I also stated in the post but I still like to think that we can come on this site and talk about the type of players we would like to sign. You are the only one on here to come out spurting shit so I would suggest that you get a hobby and grow up!!!
I don?t know where you watch your football but Fellaini is so much better than that waste of space Carsley. Which top four team is it that came in for the brilliant Carsley? Birmingham ? that?s right, a Championship team, he might just hold his own there.
Apart from the inevitable brain-doner idiot fringe, that plague all clubs, I think 100% of all right minded blues recognised and greatly appreciated the job Super Lee Carsley did for the Pride of Merseyside... a Lee Carsley type derby winner would not go amiss for us tomorrow would it? COYB!!!
Rodwell, Gosling or Castillo then...?
Someone upstairs is definitely looking after that lot over the park!!
Against that, Moyes signed every one of this squad, with the exception of Tony Hibbert. On the minus side, we have no money and no fit strikers.
On the other hand, and bearing the previous paragraph in mind, we are sixth in the league, have conceded one goal in seven games, and are about to go to Anfield for a 4th round FA Cup tie against a side that are living on their nerves (anybody read Carragher?s spell on the psychiatrist?s couch in The Guardian today?)
We also support a club whose dressing-room spirit, if bottled, patented, or included in a speech by Obama, could drag the world economy out of its pit.
If there?s someone out there that Moyes thinks could improve the mix, he?ll go for him, even if it?s a loaner till June. I don?t think Jimmy ("My move to Hull is nothing to do with money ? honest!") Bullard, or Heskey, who wanted to go back to Martin O?Neill, or any of the other candidates are it.
"The City's all ours, The City's all ours..." ? doesn't that hurt!!!!
Not by the club we weren’t. It’s the press that link us with players ... doesn’t mean anything. Year after year we get linked with all kinds that we don’t sign and the players we actually sign take us by surprise.
I like Moyes policy of keeping things under wraps. He’s obviously learned from the Sissoko type debacles.
Eric Holland - I called Carsley average.
Can’t you people read!
Now lets get all the rubbish out of the way first:
- We have no money.
- We can't afford high wages.
- Chelsea, Arsenal & Villa are allegedly interested in Sturridge.
- Why would he leave Moneybags City with players like Robinho and join Everton?
- Again, we have no money. Firstly, Sturridge is probably the most highly promising English striker around at the moment. He's fast, strong, bags of abililty and most importantly can score goals. He is only about 18 or 19 as well so got plenty more potential to come.
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Now tell me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know he is getting disgruntled at City due to the lack of (decent) contract offer on the table. His contract is supposed to run out in the summer so therefore in theory we could sign him in the summer for free.
However, we desperately need a striker NOW. If we could get a striker now that could score goals, we could still push for 4th this season. This is one player that we should take a gamble on. There will be lots of clubs after him in the summer if he's available on a free that could pay more wages than us, so therefore let's get in before anyone and snap him up. Even if we end up paying him £20k-£30k per week, he is going to be worth it and we will make up his wages by offloading Van der Meyde in the summer.
There is plenty of uncertainty at City at the moment and they seem more concerned with players coming in than going out. If we offered £5m now for a player out of contract in the summer who isn't going to sign a contract, then surely they would be stupid to accept (however it is City!!!).
Ok, we don't have £5k let alone £5m at the moment but for a player of his ability now and his potential we should get the money from somewhere. Even if the money is taken from the summer's transfer fund or a short-term loan from Mr Earl or another 'helpful' board member until Sky pay us in the summer. An amount of £5m should be found for a player that could be easily worth four times that in a couple of years. The money has been found before and much larger amounts (Yakubu, Fernandes, Fellaini, etc). A six month loan would not occur that much interest.
With the prospect of another UEFA Cup run next season and firmly established as a top 6 side, we are a decent club now for a promising youngster, especially if a top 4 side don't want to take the gamble and would rather spend £m's more on a exotic foreign name.
If we could actually pull the deal off now, we could even raid them for Micah Richards who is also apparently available for £5m and Moyes could get the best out of him!


The message has been clear all month long: we have no money; we are signing no-one. What I don't understand is why this comes as a surprise to anyone who has been following along... Moyes hates the January window, yet how many fans have written to this website about "getting a striker in January" or such other pipedreams?
"At least in the summer we was linked with players so there was always a chance of a signing". Is that really what you gleaned from last summer? Everyday this month we have been "linked" with someone new. But there is no difference. It means nothing.
Get Real! Wake up and smell the coffee! We are signing no-one.