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Arteta Missing?
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When was the last time we went into a derby with anything resembling a full strength side? I am hearing now Arteta is doubtful for tomorrow.
Matt Bone, Posted 24/01/2009 at 15:09:46
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Michael Kenrick
Have to wonder if this rumour has any merit... or is Moyesey doing his version of mindgames on Rafa? Let's hope so! It's not showing up yet on any of the reputable news sources, so I hope it's bullshit.
It’s from "Iamtheyak" on Bluekipper, he’s always spot on with team news.
Castillo replaces Arteta. Awful news to be honest.
Castillo replaces Arteta. Awful news to be honest.
If this is true it makes a win tomorrow all the sweeter.... stay positive... it?s eleven v eleven. It?s not the size of your transfer budget or the "global reach of your brand" or your supposedly "world-class" players in every position that wins games ? it?s positive attitude, smart tactics, determined application, skill, nerve, fearlessness... qualities that will trump shallow reputations and expose the faint of heart. Courage, always; now is the time, we have the swine on the ropes, let?s finish them off...
Even more so Connor, since he is pledging his loyalty to us in the media today. Let?s hope it?s Moyes and his troops playing "those" mind games.
If it were mind games surely it would be made public? While it remains behind closed doors makes me think it could well be true.
It's time for somebody to step up and have a huge game for us, i.e. Osman who I find hugely frustrating. One-nil win tomorrow thanks to a Carra og in the last minute. Not too much to ask for...
Have to back it up folks! Magic is deffo out, and Castillo is in.
Word on the street is that there was a training ground bust-up and Hibbert twatted Arteta and broke his ribs so he is definitely out!
Rumour seems to be growing by the hour on various sites. If it's true then I believe we?re in trouble as there is no one else in the squad who can take control and make us play on the deck.
Play for the draw and hope to God if it's true then its only a week or so out. But rib injuries normally take 2-3 weeks.
Back on to my quarterley gripe ? we seem to take ages to get players back. Today United fielded a left back (Brazilian) who dislocated his shoulder back in mid-Sep and has played last two games for their reserves ? how is it that Lars is still probably 2 weeks away??
Play for the draw and hope to God if it's true then its only a week or so out. But rib injuries normally take 2-3 weeks.
Back on to my quarterley gripe ? we seem to take ages to get players back. Today United fielded a left back (Brazilian) who dislocated his shoulder back in mid-Sep and has played last two games for their reserves ? how is it that Lars is still probably 2 weeks away??
I have had e-mails and text messages all day from fellow toffees about tomorrow's game. It is proposed that when LFC start singing thier song, ALL the 6,000 toffee men and women will turn thier backs on them. Wouldn't that look great on the TV?
Please tell me this is a wind-up!
If theres any truth in that David, I cant see Hibbert’s stock with our fans rising!
It’s official then, Hibbert is as thick a twat as he looks. Nice one HIbbo, you showed that Spanish fancy dan how the English do things. That’ll learn him for nutmegging you 5 times in a row. Moyes should fucking break HIbbert’s ribs.
Steady on Alan, it might just be a rumour, if true very poor from Tony, but I would be suprised if it turned out to be true.
This is conjecture on top of rumour, so we do have to wait for tomorrow. If he does have a rib injury, however, that would mean the Arsenal game too, at least.
Let?s just hope it's pre-match hysteria.
Let?s just hope it's pre-match hysteria.
I can't say for certain whether its true or not but I've had a few texts now all stating the same thing... Hoping this won't affect morale too much in the team. If it is true, will Moyes even play Hibbert tomorrow?
He supposedly had a sore rib during the Hull game, played on against Liverpool and hurt it again. According to the lad on Kipper (who’s usually very reliable) he’s out.
Hibbbert has not hit Arteta. Moyes, Cahill, Jags etc all say how great the team spirit is. Why do people post/spread stupid rumours like this? Most likely the same people who boo him each and every game.
This is circular firing squad stuff ? the tv and radio are talking "unconfirmed reports" meaning they are reading the websites which in turn are reporting the "unconfirmed reports" in the media....... and wasn?t that training ground bust up doing the rounds before last week's game??? Wait until it?s official ? we?ll still beat the shite anyway.....
Connor ? that makes a bit more sense. Moyes would, I think, prefer him to play against Arsenal with a chance of 3 PL points, than risk him in the Cup, no matter who we are playing. And it could all be blood and guts tomorrow anyway.
How did the rumour suddenly end up in a fight between Arteta and Hibbert?! Let's face it boys 'n girls, does it matter what team we put out with the amount of luck they get against us? Let's just roar on whoever plays and make those red bastards squirm whether we win/lose or draw... starting with turning our backs on them a la Juve!
Do you not think the club would rather play down a training ground spat than go public? Especially before a crucial derby game? And especially with all the crap in the newspapers about Man City and Arsenal regarding Arteta? I’m sure it is just a spat and this kind of thing happens in training and is not an indication of a dent in team spirit. Hibbert should know better though before such a big game.
If Arteta played against Hull with the rib and has re-injured it, surely he could play tomorrow as he played against Hull with the initial injury?
If Arteta played against Hull with the rib and has re-injured it, surely he could play tomorrow as he played against Hull with the initial injury?
It all goes to show why Moyes must bring some more players in! One injury to someone like Arteta and we don’t have anyone with sufficient quality to come in and replace him!
Assuming this rumour has legs, are we also to assume that Hibbo surrendered his soul to the dark side and deliberately took Mikel out? Another and more mysterious rumour put it down to a Kuwait petrodollar plot linked to Benithus's contract and Gerrard?s court case.
Hibbo was taken into custody and will appear at the Old Bailey alongside David Moyes.
Moyes's part in the dastardly scheme is unclear but witnesses say that he set up a training ground excercise that deliberately put Arteta in harm's way.
Bill Kenwright is under sedation after being found wandering the streets babbling "watch this space, watch this space".
Then again, it could all be a load of BS.
Just heard it's true.
Moyes is mates with Tony Pullis of Stoke and he agreed to send over Rory Delap today to Finch Farm to help Hibbo and Neville with throw-ins.
Arteta got the sulks and told Moyes as well as taking all the free kicks he wanted to take all the throw-ins from now on. Moyes reluctantly agreed and the first time Arteta practised with Delap he pulled a muscle in his rib-cage.
Apparently Neville got the sulks but has now been told he can take all the direct free-kicks since Arty is injured.
Moyes is mates with Tony Pullis of Stoke and he agreed to send over Rory Delap today to Finch Farm to help Hibbo and Neville with throw-ins.
Arteta got the sulks and told Moyes as well as taking all the free kicks he wanted to take all the throw-ins from now on. Moyes reluctantly agreed and the first time Arteta practised with Delap he pulled a muscle in his rib-cage.
Apparently Neville got the sulks but has now been told he can take all the direct free-kicks since Arty is injured.
Arteta out, Gosling in....?
Tim Cahill was quoted on the OS at 18:09 today saying - "It doesn?t matter what they change ? we?ll always keep the same team and play the best we can." Now this could have been said days ago, and means nothing for tomorrow. But it is evidence of a kind.
Dan Gosling could do a very good job. But the idea of loosing Segundo Castillo on them is starting to appeal to me.
Dan Gosling could do a very good job. But the idea of loosing Segundo Castillo on them is starting to appeal to me.
Bollocks to rumours... it doesn?t change a thing. The way we are going to win tomorrow is through sheer determination and will to win; it doesn?t matter who is there, and is anyone stupid enough to think Hibbert breaks his own player?s ribs? Secondly is Sam Fox really a lesbian?
Yep, Arteta is out... rumour has it that he was in a club dancing Friday night and Gerrard got the DJ to change the record to a Phil Collins song just as Arteta was halfway through a knee drop... Big Dunc lamped Gerrard and Gerrard nutted the DJ who fell on Mikel.
Moyes twatted Sammy Lee in the bogs on the way out for chatting up Kenwright.
Moyes twatted Sammy Lee in the bogs on the way out for chatting up Kenwright.
DOGS OF WAR IT IS!!! LET THE BATTLE COMMENCE!
I heard that Arteta bust a rib laughing too hard at the latest moronic outburst from El Gordo (the fat guy).
Aren?t you worried that Gerrard will bail them out?
The X-Files have got nothing on us lot. If Arteta rolls out tomorrow, that proves certain posters unreliable. If he doesn?t ? jeez, if what Mike Oates is reporting is truth god help us all.
Castillo may have the ability to play at this level, but most players need 5-6 games to adjust to the pace of the English game. I hope the boy's (match-) fit enough to do himself justice.
Losing Arteta is a real blow but it's just the latest in a catalogue of setbacks we?ve suffered. We can either feel sorry for ourselves, or we can tear into these twats and make it even more uncomfortable for them than we did last Monday.
History is littered with players who have made a real name for themselves after being thrown into battle at the last minute.
Come on son, make a name for yourself!
Am i missing something here? Nothing on the OS, and I’ve just googled ’arteta injury’ and there is NOTHING. All the articles refer to injuries from 2005, 2007 etc. Can someone provide a link?
Sorry lads, but he really is out for at least 2 matches (verified yesterday). All the suggestions regarding how Mikel got his injury are wide of the mark, though. This is what happened: Mikel attended a birthday party for a friends son 2 days ago (not Tony Hibbert’s son). During the event, Mikel was giving the wee kids piggy-back rides. At some point, he tripped over one of the little darlings and stumbled into a coffee table smashing his rib-cage in the process. It was just a freak accident.
Come on folks !, David Moyes is still in a learning curve, he’s at the the stage were he’s learning mind games (Don’t forget he’s a big mate of Alex Ferguson) . Arteta WILL play.
DM is just disrupting Benitez’s game plan - thats all
DM is just disrupting Benitez’s game plan - thats all
Arteta IS a doubt, but everything else is a load of bull.
If you want to see team mates fighting get your self over to Newcastle, they are at it every other week!
If you want to see team mates fighting get your self over to Newcastle, they are at it every other week!
I heard Arteta’s been nailing Hibbo’s bird and got caught in the act feeding her paella so Tony slotted him a roundhouse kick to the chest.
Jim Reardon, Ive had txt messages about this as well. I dont know if you where their the other night but i noticed people trying to get everyone to turn their backs when the shite started singing ’that song’ before the game. It would be fucken great if all 6000 done it today.
Everyone should spread the word, start texting ye mates!
Everyone should spread the word, start texting ye mates!
Can anyone verify? The Bluekipper team news has the same 11 to start with no mention at all of Arteta missing. Is this a redshite rumour to wind us up?
ART ATTACK
Everton star Mikel Arteta has had a freak injury scare in the buildup to today’s derby. The Spanish ace took a nasty kick in the ribs from a team-mate in training and needed to have a quick check to make sure that nothing was broken. Boss David Moyes is confident that Arteta will be OK but he will be monitored before kick-off just in case he is still experiencing any pain.
http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/tm_headline=preview-liverpool-v-everton%26method=full%26objectid=21069693%26siteid=93463-name_page.html
Hopefully he makes it...
Everton star Mikel Arteta has had a freak injury scare in the buildup to today’s derby. The Spanish ace took a nasty kick in the ribs from a team-mate in training and needed to have a quick check to make sure that nothing was broken. Boss David Moyes is confident that Arteta will be OK but he will be monitored before kick-off just in case he is still experiencing any pain.
http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/tm_headline=preview-liverpool-v-everton%26method=full%26objectid=21069693%26siteid=93463-name_page.html
Hopefully he makes it...
Sky Sports now reporting that Arteta is to miss out.
Fuck it.
Fuck it.
It would be a huge shame if Mikel showed any signs of injury or - even worse - was out. He is flying at the moment and it would be a crushing blow. Let?s hope we can patch him up and he can play through the pain barrier. It would just be our luck if he failed to make it. With the same team - we have a massive chance.
Just been mentioned on Setanta he’s out. Jammy red cunts.
If the Yak had been fit and picked up a freak injury on the eve of the game, we’d be shitting it all the same, and the same goes for Fellaini.
The fact is, we were all optimistic in the knowledge of both these out well before the game!
Everton are a team and not a select group of individuals. It could turn out that not having Arteta gives the rest of the team that little extra boost needed to turn this shower of cunts into ground!
We get knocked down, but we get up again!
COYB
The fact is, we were all optimistic in the knowledge of both these out well before the game!
Everton are a team and not a select group of individuals. It could turn out that not having Arteta gives the rest of the team that little extra boost needed to turn this shower of cunts into ground!
We get knocked down, but we get up again!
COYB
What I’d say to Segundo is be agressive, put yourself about. He’s a mini tank, he needs to use his physique in games like this.
He always seems a bit laid back to me, he needs to add some agression to his game if he wants to make it in England. Good luck to him...
He always seems a bit laid back to me, he needs to add some agression to his game if he wants to make it in England. Good luck to him...
Well I have been told he is starting.
Whatever the team is.
Its time to stand up to the red shite. We have the defence to hold them out.
1 chance 1 goal 1 nil to Everton
COYB
Its time to stand up to the red shite. We have the defence to hold them out.
1 chance 1 goal 1 nil to Everton
COYB
Just BELIEVE boys. Mikky is a wizard we know that but it wasn’t Mikky who dominated them on Monday night it was a collection of Blue Shirts who refused to buckle.
Whoever comes in needs to fight and run and tackle and kick and jump and stretch until there back home on the sofa thinking about who we’ve got in the 5th round. BELIEVE.
Whoever comes in needs to fight and run and tackle and kick and jump and stretch until there back home on the sofa thinking about who we’ve got in the 5th round. BELIEVE.
Ped, looks like you were told wrong
He’s out.. typical luck
BBC website says that Mikky didn?t travel with the team
Does anyone have links to the game?
Santosh - veetle.com will show the game. best of the freebies by a long way. Follow the download instructions - only takes 30 seconds.
franny - I have friends that coach at seville - any spanish news I can get. I was told he is sore but expects to play... ? anyway fingers crossed. we will win 2-0
franny - I have friends that coach at seville - any spanish news I can get. I was told he is sore but expects to play... ? anyway fingers crossed. we will win 2-0
Thanks, Ped.
Fuck fuck fuck... Castillo? ... why not Gosling FFS... Hate to say it but I don't see us scoring today :(
Ped mate, im gutted, but still strangely confident, must be this Tiger beer! COYB!!!!!
This is from the official site and 'What the papers say'
"Mikel Arteta has scuppered any hopes either Arsenal or Manchester City have of signing him after the £7million-rated Spanish midfielder insisted he is staying loyal to Everton."
I fail to understand £7m? Are they taking the piss?
The number of times our players have got injured in "training" is far too many. We need to be more careful
Yeh Franny, luck isnt ever our strongest point hey. Still Castillo has now been given a chance to to shine... lets hope he takes it. Other than that = VDM or someone has to step up. COYB Boys!!
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