They Just Don't Get It...
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Listening to their fans streaming away from the ground and on the radio phone-ins when I was stuck in the car park, their consensus was that they battered us, only one team played football and they have nothing to be scared of coming to Goodison.
Well, let?s get some perspective here ? our one forward was out on his feet, our main play-maker was ruled out by injury, another play-making goalscoring midfielder was robbed of his opportunity to participate following a booking at Hull and we could not call on the likes of Yakubu, Saha and Vaughan to boot.
Take Gerrard and Torres out of that side of theirs and likewise it would nullify their threat massively. They just don?t get how lucky they have been in the these two games not to face a full strength Everton. It would be lovely if, just once, we could go into a game with them with a full compliment of first teamers to choose from ? as we do have such a small squad inevitably that isn?t going to happen.
Because of the resources available to both clubs ? there will never be a level playing field between the two teams. Could you imagine the devastating effect of Gerrard getting ruled of the game due to a freak training ground incident would have on them? If they were honest, they would concede that this would be a great leveller.
So, with all this in mind ? it is absolutely incredible ? yes, incredible ? that we have managed to get two draws in quick succession on their own patch. At times, it was breathtaking listening to their fans? silence and seeing their frustration at not being able to breakdown what is probably the best Everton defence in years.
To have an opportunity to take them to Goodison and perhaps have one or two of our first choice players back after two hard-fought performances is fantastic. There is no better way to raise the Club?s profile than to perform like this against the so-called big boys (perhaps undeniable if you judge a ?big club? by the amount of money spent on players).
We should all hold our heads up high and be so proud once again of our players, great Club, fans and, of course, manager. Moyes has proved over the last two games alone that he has learnt so much and would he be given a quarter of the funds Benitez has had at his disposal then only God knows what kind of a team we could have?
To see a little boy no older than 6 standing on a chair not far away from me waving his Everton flag singing his head off brought a tear to my eye at the end of the game. This current Everton batch of players perhaps do not realise they are about to create another legacy for another generation with commitment like we have seen again today.
Here?s to the next Derby at our place ? to knock them out at this stage may actually make one or two Dubai Capitalists take note of a Club on the up with limited resource, fantastic history with a fan-base who will not expect £20 million to be spent on a forward who does not even make the bench. Well done lads ? I am so proud.
Steve Callaghan,
Liverpool Posted 25/01/2009 at 16:26:59
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Well said Steve, i am over the moon with today’s result. I am currently stuck out in the atlantic probably the only place in the bloody world that couldn’t get the game but i am over the moon to get the arrogant bastards back at our place on Feb 04th. Luckily i will be home for that and will love it, just love it if we can dump them out. Lets hope we have a few players back and the fat spanish geezer decides to play his second string - somehow i don’t think it will be 1-1 this time.
COYB
I sat next to a Liverpool fan in a pub in New York watching the game with a mixed bunch of supporters in there. It was all about how much they battered us. The Germans battered us in 1940 but we still came out on top!! Cmon you Blues!!
Steve you’ve hit one major flawed trait with the RS management, players and fans on the head; they have no sense of reality, Torres is a world class player but he was nullified again today, without him and GBH and they are a mid table side at best. From upstairs through the fat waiter and his players they have no humility and I’m looking forward to the replay and more first team players available so as my Scottish work colleagues would say they can "get it right up them".
Well said that man. We’ll be more than a match for them with Screech and Arteta to start. Some people forget that defence is just as important as attack as a facet of the game - we defended like our lives depended upon it.
Ignore the bellyaching alehouse bores and habitual whiners with their unrealistic expectations and who try to convince you that we didn’t do a job on Liverpool today... Moyes got it tactically spot on and you can count on 3 of our defenders entering the England manager’s plans in the near future.
Consider this - We went to Anfield twice in less than a week; with a patched together team and a bunch of teenagers on the bench... we rattled them in the first game and we held them off in the second, even though our playmaker was unavailable... and remember but for an uncharacteristic error by our goalkeeper we would have beaten them.
Some people are never happy - but I am. I’ll be over the friggin moon when... yes WHEN... we beat them at Goodison... and I’d jlove it ust love it if we could get Villa in the next round at Goodison and show them up for how ordinary they are.
Moyes isn’t the Messiah - he’s his dad
Benitez is comparing us to Extremadura. I just love it when we get under his skin.
Errr, didn’t they beat us at Goodison this season, when we had our best team on the park?
You have to laugh at the FSW when he moans about 10 behind the ball and only trying to avoid defeat, isn?t that what they do in Europe year after year?
But the most amazing rumour I?ve ever heard is the one doing the rounds that Robbie Keane is coming to Goodison on loan? I can?t honestly believe that it will happen, even if it does materialise, he can?t play in the replay as he played at Preston. By the way, what is ?Extremadura?? ? is it Spanish for the brown stuff?
It's not just us ? Lawro, Mark Lawrenson no less, on Radio5 said it almost word for word ? take Gerrard and Torres away and there?s nothing left to write home about.
Incidentally I could see the game on a Sopcast digitally delayed by about a minute, listening to the radio ?live?. To my mind, he got just about everything right (Pienaar pen perhaps not?). And for two RS home games in succession, the BBC didn?t involve the appalling Alan Green. Is our criticism getting through? Keep it going.
Brian Waring, you are one miserable RS
What?s been really refreshing has been seeing some members of the press taking a more positive slant with regard to Moyes and his success during this insane situation. There was a nice article about him on Soccernet and also by Phil McNulty on his BBC Blog. It?s nice to see recognition for all the work he and the lads have done, because ? I can only speak for myself ? but I thought we were in for a long season they way things started out for us this year. Could you imagine the complaining coming from any of the so called "Big Four" if they were in the same finacial climate as us? Benitez would have walked out if he couldn?t buy players.
What?s been really refreshing has been seeing some members of the press taking a more positive slant with regards to Moyes and his success during this insane situation. There was a nice article about him on Soccernet and also by Phil McNulty on his BBC Blog. It?s nice to see recognition for all the work he and the lads have done, because ? I can only speak for myself ? but I thought we were in for a long season they way things started out for us this year. Could you imagine the complaining coming from any of the so called "Big Four" if they were in the same finacial climate as us? Benitez would have walked out if he couldn?t buy players.
If you start listening to RS supporters, you?ll remember why you?re a blue.
Brian ? I think even in the first game at Goodison you will find that Pienaar was out with an ankle injury and Lescott was played at left back etc etc. So, once again we were forced to perhaps shuffle things around. However, on ?paper?, we were much stronger than in the last two games 1 but, strangely, the team put out that day did not come close to the performance level of the team that played in the last two games. Soit would really be nice not to suffer any more misfortune in terms of injury prior to the replay ? it would be great to see Arteta and Felli back in the team with Saha/VIc to come off the bench. Would be nice, just once, to have options.
Brain Waring, I guess that is tongue in cheek, as any bluenose would know the shite had the good fortune to play the Goodison derby with us blighted with severe poor form, poor fitness in key players (such as Arteta and Cahill not match fit), un-settled back line and foreign new signings not settled. Those problems are now passed as evidenced by our performances and record in the last couple of months. We lost to shite sides like Blackburn at home FFS, and other limited shite, like the shite!
Their season is falling apart and ours is getting back on track, a deserved home win is just the tonic to keep us moving on, come 4th Feb, undler the lights of Goodison for a midweek night game, the players and fans should be very ready to claim that deserved home win. COYB!
David, I was just pointing out a fact. As Steve mentioned, on paper we had a much stronger team out then, than we had in these 2 games. So we have played them with (apart from Pienaar ) virtually a full strength team, as I said, it was just something I was pointing out.
One more thing, have you always been a tit? You can call me almost anything else, but to label me a redshite, thats bang out of order.
Extremadura - through no fault of the people born there - is the place in Spain that nobody wants to go to. Perhaps he doesn’t want to come to Goodison.
I don’t know where he is quoted as saying this, but it sounds like it might be the equivalent of a 1970’s Bernard Manning ’Irish joke’.
Just got this off Wikepedia :-Extremadura was the source of many of the most famous Spanish conquerors ("conquistadores") and settlers in America. Hernán Cortés, Francisco Pizarro, Pedro de Alvarado, Pedro de Valdivia, Francisco de Orellana, Pedro Gomez Duran y Chaves and Vasco Nunez de Balboa were all born in Extremadura and many towns and cities in America carry a name from their homeland:
So Rafa be prepared to be conquered.
Ah, that was funny, Chris Leyland.
The Extremadura quote is now all over tha major sites BBC, Sky etc. Benitez never ceases to amaze. They play like Extremadura everytime they go one up if he thinks about it. He?s priceless. As the song goes "Rafa?s crackin up"
Benitez has been a graceless piece of shit for a long time now (presumably since his birth). Rather than behave like a stupid twat again, he might like to explain how for two games running one of the most expensively assembled teams in the world failed to beat a half strength team costing less than his cock-up signing of a striker?
He might also like to explain while he is at it why his captain is likely to go to prison soon, his senior defender was booked today for trying to intimidate the referee, and his most expensive midfielder shamed himself again in front of millions with his diving and attempts to get a fellow professional sent off.
Forget Extremadura, this man is simply a piece of excrement.
Just caught up with the quote, and in the true spirit of research, and wearing rubber gloves, looked him up on Wikipedia. So he took FC Extremadura into La Liga, only to be relegated after one season. No wonder he knows about ?small clubs?. They sacked him. It says he left Valencia over a disagreement about investment. Can?t be long now, can it.
We can take them at Goodison. I do not think they will have "the bottle" for another battle that they certainly do not want and did not expect. The FSW will be looking at (& blaming) the fixture list. The Manager, the supporters & the club are the most despicable in the league & have no respect nor a good word for anyone they do not beat. They must have thought we would collapse, lie down & let them walk over us. Then it would have been "Everton put up a good show but... " ??? They where without doubt shocked! Nullified!! Quietened!!! And had very few answers. I think we should just play like we did on Monday... Frustrate them, get stuck in, and go on to win it.
Wouldn?t that be a brilliant chant for the lads a week on Wednesday??? ? to the tune of Quantanamera.... All together now:
Extre-ma-dura, We are your Extre-ma-dura.
Extre-ma-doora! We are your Extre-ma-doooora!
OLE!
Two games, two draws. One team with millions in resources, the other without. One team plays like a team, the other looks like a gathering of talented individuals who can?t understand why the ?little? club won?t lie down and be beaten.
Let's be honest, we couldn?t hold onto the ball when we got it, the game was almost exclusively played in our half, and yet I just never felt like the darkside were going to win. I would be over the moon if we had won (obviously), but listening to the windbags moan about how they just need one more player (break the bank, £50mil for David Villa being my favourite) is good enough for now.
Let's have them back to ours, with Arteta fit and firing with the crazy haired Belgian kicking them around the park and see how they get on.
Plus can we invent a "Extremadura" chant in time for the replay? Come on you Blues, you made me proud to be an Evertonian today.
Michael Kenrick
Are we twins separated at birth? Just as I was writing to suggest a chant you posted one. Its not bad either!!
God, I was so proud of the boys today, talk about pride & determination, every player wanting to play & support each other, it was fantastic. Only problem now is who you drop for the next coming games.
So proud...... COYB
Maybe Rafa was right. He said one team were trying to win and one wasn’t. One team was trying to win, but weren’t good enough. The other team were winning but then decided it would be a laugh to string it out and get them back to Goodison to torture them some more. I can’t think of any other reason why Tim decided to let the goal in.
Rafel Benitez is a piece of shit simple as... so we can see what type of manager he is from what happens on the pitch right?...like that twat Mascherano trying to get Tim sent off because almighty fucking liverpool cannot cope with him! I hate Liverpool I I really do. We WILL BEAT THEM AT GOODISON and WE WILL WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE BEFORE THEY DO ! COYB
I think it?s fair to say that when they beat us at Goodison earlier this season we hadn?t got our act together. Having said that though, I think the absence of so many of our "best" players has helped galvanise us to the two draws. I think it?s quite a balancing act getting that sort of performance out of us whilst getting the players in there that can turn a game in our favour.
But, as the article says, they just don?t get it. Despite all the players we had unavailable, you take Gerrard out of that side and they?re average at best. Would you take Skrtel over Lescott or Jagz, Dossena over Baines? Babel over Pienaar? I sure wouldn?t and i?d rather Arteta over Alonso and Fellaini over Mascherano. When he?s not crying like a baby or falling over himself, Torres can be class and, as much as I can?t stand him, Gerrard is class too but other than that (and aside from Carragher, who I dislike immensely but has been solid), a collection of over-paid primadonas who believe their own hype.
Michael - love it :-)
Did you see Moyes’ retort to the waiter’s withering slight? Fuck me, it was almost Churchillian. More of that please DM, but also a bit more adventure (for us, not them).
Haha... now Stevie G is hugging ladyboy Torres when scoring a goal, soon his friends in prison will be "hugging" him as he pics up the soap.
Two draws at Anfield, nothing short of a miracle as far as I am concerned. I have not been this proud to be a Blue since the 2nd Fiorentina match. I love everything we are, everything we stand for, such as hard work, honesty, team spirit and outright humility. WE ARE EVERTON!!! And look at those cunts, standing for everything I resent in football today. Come on Screech, do those fuckers at Goodision! COYB
I’m afraid Rafa is a waste of space. His interview last night was another small club jibe, pure and simple. Next time the media and journalists want to know why the so-called "friendly derby" is now full of bitterness and hatred they might want to look at the ignorant, arrogant-arse attitude of the RS manager.
Imagine Utd going to Anfield twice in a week short of Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov and Ronaldo. I imagine that if they came away with two draws we’d never hear the end of it.
If Benitez’s comments don’t motivate the boys to shove it down his throat at Goodison in the replay, nothing will!
Don?t get carried away guys!! There is no way Stevie La La is going to jail ? after all he has spent thousands employing an ex Metropolitan Police Chief to keep him out of it. At best he would get community service ? after all, he?s not Joey Barton!!
No, Patty, Joey Barton doesn’t pay people to do his fighting for him.
How about a chant from the Halifax ad, who gives you extra?
Who got sacked by Extra?
Those beauts can probably be sumed up by this text to the BBC from a RS at the match before the first half has even finished.
1642: "Let Everton have their day and focus on Wigan away on Wednesday. The Cup is not important for Liverpool this time around."
Steve at Anfield, via text on 81111.
That’s why the FSW picked his strongest team and the place erupted when they scored.
Gobshites from top to bottom.
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