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Another fine backs to the wall performance. An honest view would have to be that Michael Kenrick is, to a large extent, correct in his view. Today, partly because of injuries, we went to Anfield with an inferiority complex. Yet we are not too far away. Why not use the rest of the season to prepare for a top four challenge next season?
This is what I suggest: Our defence is solid. Let's keep Baines at left back with Jags and Lescott in the centre. Give Gosling a sustained run at right back. A while ago on this site, I was mocked for suggesting that he was a future international defender. I still believe I was right. Give Vic a run as striker. (We have no other option at the moment and today, from TV at least I thought he did ok.)
Injuries permitting, give James Vaughan, Jack Rodwell and Jose Baxter as many games as possible; if any money is available in the summer, spend it all on a wide player with pace.
We could start next season with quality throughout the team. Howard, Jagielka, Lescott, Arteta, Fellaini, Cahill and Yakubu. Yes, the Yak. Every class team works hard enough to have a luxury and the Yak is our luxury. With some decent young players coming through, workers like Neville Osman and Pienaar we are not far away from being a top side.
Finally and most importantly, David Moyes must be bold.I wanted him to go in the summer, I hated his contract wrangling, but... he's got the dressing room, he's turned things round, he's ours and he's here for a while.
Let's never go to Anfield again looking for a draw. We are better than them in every way.
Andy Crooks, Posted 25/01/2009 at 20:59:01
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You retain the dressing room morale and confidence by getting results. Moyes got a result - the best he could in the circumstances. The run of form and games continues, keeps the players motivated, gives us a better chance of winning a cup or pushing up the league prize money table. Which truly helps with a top 4 push....
If he changed the team around and lost 4 on the bounce, you’d be calling for his head...
It's a chicken and egg situation, there's no substitute for experience, but the circumstances under which these kids are introduced can make or break them. Moyes knows his lads and like it or not, you have to trust his judgement
We hardly had a team to put out so what was Moyes supposed to do tactically? We should be very proud of the team’s display yesterday.
Also, surely, long term Neville is our best RB and we haven't even seen Lars yet.
Him, Baxter, Rodwell and even Agard should have been tried in the Carling Cup, as Brett suggests. But Moyes never does that, which is counter-productive in the long run. Such a shame because if you consider the benefit to EFC of one of these boys making the cut it?s massive. We save money on transfers and probably on wages for a while, then we have a valuable asset (just in case things went pear-shaped).
It seems to me we have a batch of excellent young players who, judging by the brief sights we?ve had of them, can play a part in our future. I think that?s fantastic. Contrast that with other clubs such as Spurs and the current media darlings (but boring lucky bastards) Aston Villa.
Victor did well in the first game, but still not sure overall. James Vaughan is the unluckiest kid in football. There is clearly a possibility that this kid?s career will be over before it?s begun. I SO hope he gets the chance to recover, get really fit and get back in the team. It must be fucking his mind up to think that he?s been injured for almost 3 years. He has everything needed to succeed except luck. He?s fast, strong, brave & has an eye for goal. Get well young man.
The Yak was off colour this season. Having said that, so was everyone until Oct/Nov. My concern is that he?s a big lad and an achilles injury means no running for a long time. He?s got a job on his hands to get down to fighting weight. I think current target is end of this year isn?t it? ? which means forget him for first half of next season too. Again, we have Lukas Jutkiewicz, and it?s of little benefit to him to be getting a numb arse every week from sitting on the bench.
if I could wish for one thing next season from Moyes it would be put our kids in the Carling Cup. Oh yes, and NEVER play with such a stretched formation as yesterday because it?s unfair on our defence and looks awful. 9-0-1 is effective, but there?s a bit of a give-away about the art of counter-attacking in the name. You need to be set up to attack when the opportunity presents itself. In that regard Pienaar ran his plumbs off, and Gosling was getting forward late on. But too much deep throat for comfort.
Final word: I thought Jags? marshalling of Torres was awesome. The man reads trouble like the best Italians of the 60?s & 70?s. In front of Capello too. If I were Yobo, I?d be worried. But I have much time for Joe. He?s been with us since Moyes took over and he?s a top man. I?ve always thought he could play as a covering midfielder/sweeper like Vieira. He?s strong, quick and has good control.
Reasons to be cheerful...
I just can?t see Vaughan making it, as much as I thought he would be good, he?s missing far too much of his formative years through injury. I can?t see him managing to catch up on these missed seasons and whenever he comes back in he looks no better than before.
I?m afraid that a tilt at the top-4 is going to need a new, pacy striker as back-up/partner for the Yak, a winger or 2 to give some natural width and a threat for opposing full-backs and a defensive midfielder who can play a bit. To bring in quality in each of those positions we?re looking at a minimum bill of £30M just to start with.
Let?s be realistic, the youngsters we have just won?t take us into the top 4, we?d more likely be looking at the bottom 4.
So, as Moyes continues to build (tries to) we are going to get an increasing number of big name players forced to sit on the bench and the question is, Can we keep these players happy?
I like to think we would play 4-4-2 at some stage, meaning Cahill MAY have to be dropped. With Fellaini coming good it?s possible Neville could be dropped... yes I know he?s not a big name player but he?s the Captain!
Telling time for Moyes I feel!
Kevin, I tend to agree with you about Vic, in fact I suggested a while ago that he should be sold. However, that isn?t going to happen at the moment... so, the more he plays. the more we are likely to see the best of him.
Having seen only approx 120 mins of Gosling I?m already convinced that he is a far better option than Osman.
I?m not too worried by having to defend at Anfield for 90 mins, losing Arteta was the final nail in the coffin for us as a side who could go their and match them. Just look at the stats for Monday's derby and you will see how even that game was. It?s not just the number of injuries, its the fact that they are all key players. As someone quite rightly stated, its the equivalent of the RS losing Torres, Alonso and Gerrard.
No strikers and our 2 most influential midfielders missing and we get a draw, what else do people want?? Take out Torres, Keane, Ngog, Gerrard & Alonso from their squad and let's see how they perform then.
Benitiez makes me sick with his bleating ? the bloke wants to get his own house in order before he starts whining about Everton's. I hope we smash 'em to bits in the replay just to see his stupid smug mug pulling out all the excuses he can for his 2-man team.
Everton may not be the most pleasing on the eye, but I tell you what ? if you can find me a better unit, a better defensive unit and an all-round better ?team? than Everton, I?ll be astonished. The RS won most of their titles, leagues & cups included built on a solid defence, so he should maybe also ?know his history? before he lays into us.
I?d like to finish this rant with the C word but I?ll refrain ? you all know what I?m taling about.
Up the blues.
"The RS won most of their titles, leagues & cups included built on a solid defence, so he should maybe also ?know his history? before he lays into us."
Liverpool’s many League titles were based on going 1-0 up and passing back to Clemence for the remainder of the match. Coincidence they have no League titles since the backpass rule was introduced in 1992? I think not!
Castillo, Osman blah blah ? they all ran themselves to a stand still... much respect.
If Yobo were to go to a side placed higher in the league he would be involved in squad rotation... this is just a sign that things are looking bright for the blues.
When Cahill is out, hopefully Saha is available... I?d like to see Vaughan back but sounds like he is 8 weeks or so away (hopefully he gets back and stays injury free so he can push on for us next season).


1 Posted 26/01/2009 at 05:22:51
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About yesterday?s game, I think my neighbours hate me after yesterday's noise in my living room.
Great performance yesterday guys. Gosling really looks class when he came on. Castillo really needs more game time to settle those nerves (too many of his passes went astray). Pienaar just looked class every time he had the ball (the last 10 minutes I just shouted for the guys to pass the fuckin ball to Gosling and Pienaar), for obvious reasons, those tho can really play.
Neville in midfield, no comment. Howard, I forgive you! Cahill, great performance. Jag, you are starting to look world class!
I really can?t see this back four changed...