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A happy man, although ITV did not help
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Whilst it was hardly a riveting game, much less one of quality football, it was not lacking in taliking points. Injuries, red cards and big scoring youth players aside, I can't help but feel somewhat cheated by ITV's 'technical difficulties'. The victory is one which I will enjoy for a while yet, but what of the winning goal?
It's one thing to bang in a last minnute winner and watch Goodison erupt, A very different thing to miss the whole thing and see the screen flicker back on whilst Torres takes a kick off.
Anyway, I don't want to complain; nothing like watching 'Stevie Me' wander off so early. Bloody good stuff tonite, I do worry for Bolton on Saturday tho (anyone remember Sunderland last season?)
Rob Skeldon, Posted 04/02/2009 at 23:56:38
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What made me see red was the commentator who made the comment about someone from a bigger club being a more suitable place for Cahill. That isn’t the quote but was the gist of it. They didn’t make the same point about Torres or Gerrard.
Anyway, onwards to Villa. After that 2-3 home loss, there should be sufficient motivation to get a result and perform well there. I hope.
Personally in terms of quality coverage if it aint on Sky it’s no good in my view but if we’re to grasp one positive point from ITV coverage unlike Sky, they clearly remember the game wasn’t only invented in 1992.
Made me laugh though as last night Baines grew up an Evertonian and last week he apparently grew up a Kopite.
I’m hoping that Moyes gives ADVM a chance to repay the club with a string of games now
Totally fucking made up! Haven’t felt this good in ages, even if I do have some sort of eye infection that itches like crazy AAAARGH.
We deserve this feeling and it gives us the chance to get our own back on the Villa.
COYB!!
When ITV flicked back after the ill-timed advert break there was a moment where everyone took in the image of a pile of Everton players lying on the floor and looked up at the score in the top corner of the screen and then we went mad. Looking at all the stoney-faced, glory-hunting londonders trying to take in what had happened while ITV had been off screen was amazing. It beats coming away from Upton Park after our 3-1 win as my favourite Everton moment of the season, but then beating that lot was always going to!
What a performance though, I am so proud. The lads have worked so hard, let?s keep the momentum going and get some revenge on Villa.
My house was burgled on Tuesday night (while I and my family were at home). Not much taken, apart from my car keys and then subsequently my car. Wednesday obviously a bit low.
But if you asked me would I take away the burglary experience if it meant I had to take away the FA Cup experience, I?d say absolutely not. In a few months or years time I will have forgotten my car was stolen. I will never forget Goodison going absolutely mental, with the commentator just screaming ?RYAN GOSLING... RYAN GOSLING?. Just as I?ve never forgotten the numerous heartbreaks those bastards have inflicted upon me.
A night to remember for the rest of my life....
COYB
Weird the way things happen differently in different regions..
I’ve never felt so simultaneously elated and pissed off in all my life. Its given way to pride now but can’t help but feel robbed of a special experience.
Watching a game on TV is never the same as being at the ground but in moments like that you get to be part of it, sharing the joy with the crowd! A replay just doesn’t have the same effect and thanks to a massive ITV blunder I’m sure a large portion of the Welsh Everton contingent feel that they missed out on a special moment!
He told me and all the other listeners that, A) Cahill should have received a straight red for his tackle on ??Jamie?? and be sent off; B) Pienaar should have recieved 2 yellows for his over the top tackles on some other no-mark; and C) wait for it, the tackle Pienaar got just before half time was ??In the spirit of the game?? and that he should expect it during a Mersyside Derby and that he will come out again in the second half none the worse.
I have never heard such biased reporting on the radio as I heard last night. Thankfully I was able to watch the second half onwards on TV, only to listen to Tydsley giving his "unbiased" comments. Then to cap it all, ITV go into a commercial break just before the goal and we miss the build up, only to return as the blues are celebrating our goal. Dont get me wrong it was a beautiful sight, but somehow i feel robbed. ITV should never again be allowed to show live football, their incompetence and biased commentary are nothing short of disgraceful.
With all that i have commented on, did it spoil my night...??? Did it Fuck. I just hope the lads can get a decent rest and hopefully do us all proud. I have said in the past that I will never go to the new Wembley unless Everon are playing, indeed I have already turned down a couple of tickets for England games. I have a feeling that this could be our year..... What time are the trains?
Most live TV football isn?t as ?live? as you think. EG if you listen to a match on the radio and watch the game on the TV you will notice that quite often there is about a three second lag. There are a couple of reasons for this, some of them to do with the disparity between an analogue signal and a digital? it can also be a quite deliberate policy to have a time lag during live events to avoid things like full frontal streakers and other unwelcome stuff.
I saw the goal live last night, though, there was a cut to an ad break just before ?Shandy? received the ball. I was in the Tyne Tees area (Though my shouts of celebration could be heard in Huyton according to family).
I?m almost certain that this was a technical glitch? but in the back of my mind I can imagine some bitter Kopite pulling the switch as Goslings goal delicately chipped its way towards the back of the net? it?s just the sort of thing that one of them twats would do
The commentary and editorial decisions were certainly biased? ?Cahill to a big club? Beglin condoning every Everton booking? but judging the Liverpool bookings to be harsh, the camera cutting from the action when Everton had the ball to a stationary Torres... and to the Liverpool supporters every 5 minutes(BTW Imagine if that was Everton fans throwing missiles onto the pitch? there?d be a stewards enquiry and we?d be thrown out of the FA Cup.. probably Europe)
However, you can?t edit out our triumph? we won? your media darlings lost ITV ?deal with it!
Kind of took the shine off it missing the boy Gosling clipping a peach into the corner of the net - still bloody lovely to turn them over, and especially glorious to see that shite Gerrard sloping off, and Torres being put in Jags back-pocket for the entire evening - magic!
I’m yet to see any post match anything, ITV just about managed to give us 30 seconds of Gosling then it all went tits up as their coverage is generally somewhat amateur.
Looking forward to seeing the waiter complaining about the loss, and Davey waxing lyrical about another fine display from the boys in blue!
Lets hope these 3 games against them give us a real shot in the arm and go someway to derailing their season!
Still never quite celebrated an add break like it..
Great night and enjoying every moment.
Lets take this on, back to the league the weekend, COYB!
I need say no more!
The relief when those images of the blue-shirt pile-up came back up? Words can’t describe...
Did you see on TV how Jags had Torres in his pocket all game and how as soon as Gerard went off he seemed to lose his appetite for the game. One of the fuuniest things I’ve seen is when he was taken of to a chorus of Ladyboy, by 35000 blues at the top of their voice.
About the biase we regularly see whenever Liverpool play anyone aside from the Mancs I don’t expect anything else. I cancelled my subscription with Satanta after their coverage of the league game. The aftermatch pundits where Macmanaman and Fowler, MOTD has Laurenson and Hanson and ITV Beglin and the Anti -Everton Tyldesley. Even BBC radio has the disgraceful Alan Green. Is it any wonder that Everton rarely get the credit we desreve whilst that batch of kopite scum get to deliberate over almost every game we play accross all the media platforms. Fuck the lot of em I say and COYB!
Was massively impressed by Rodwell last night, looks proper composed. Thought Gosling was a bit hit and miss, but did he ever come through.... for all the times he gave the ball away the composure he showed for the goal made up for it 100-fold.
Bring on Villa, we owe them one.
However poor it was for the TV, it was riveting in the ground start to finish. You knew we?d do ?em even in the first 20 mins.
Believe it or not, I called Gosling as a scorer when he came on! What a fantastic night!
Having said all that, what a magnificent moment for this young team, I’m really excited about what they could achieve if they are kept together! COYB !!
ITV can go shite. That Jim Beglin is nothin but a gnat on a rabid dogs dick. As a fellow Irishman I can safely say he is the biggest Bollox in the universe.
When I saw the headline "Gosling sinks Liverpool", I shouted out in ecstasy. Unfortunately that class was English and we were listening to speechs that were assessment tasks. So a detetion for my celebration but one I am willing to take. I went even nuttier when I saw it was ADVM and 118 minutes. Then to top it off my teacher is from the dark side and a few renditions of singing the blues were in order, which the class duly sung with me.
With no mention to Aubrey Powell, and why the Everton TEAM where wearing black arm bands.....
it’s juts ridiculous, we don’t get bad press, unless Timmy is accused of being a thug by the Hull manager, we get N0 press whatsoever....
But last night was definately a blue night.....!!
And for the first time Moyes made positive subs. Hope it makes him now think there is no one to fear.
Great to see the Spanish Waiter lost for words but what he said was rubbish - only playing with 10 men and Lucas shouldn?t have been sent off. BAD LOSER
Good to see Lucas sent off, I think the ref got sick of him trying to get Pienaar sent off in the end. Rolling around face contorted, if I was playing I would’ve happily kicked him in the face.
As a blue in London exile, I feel much better now thankyou.
Their coverage is pitiful.
1) Assuming Phil Jagielka would be a great 'utility' man for England
2) Sounding surprised that a 'sky 4' team hadn't come in for Tim Cahill
3) Suggesting Everton 'over-celebrate' Derby victories
I wonder if he had anything to do with ITV's 'technical hitch'??
Also, I was really looking forward to seeing a derby game with the big Afro playing. I heard he has become a bit of a hero with the fans. Again, is it me or did he just have a bad day at the office? He was awful, no energy & no touch. On the other hand, & I know the opposition only had 10 men, but Rodwell was an inspiration. So assured and wanting to take responsibility in the middle of the park when no one else was prepared to.
Finally, is Jags the best centre forward in the world at the moment or what? In fact, defensively, Everton must have the best back four in the premireship. That Devon lad Gosling isn't bad either. Bring on the Villains! COYB
Gerrard did NOT have an injury last night. Merseyside Police confirmed he was substituted after 16mins because he was on a 9pm curfew.
The other thing that sticks in my mind from the game: Neville apparently yelling at Fellaini to sort his act out, whilst in discussion with referee. The Big Fella really needs to drop the comedy barnet now and get down to the serious business of being the engine in our midfield
Oh, and as for Tyldesly, well it was the usual scripted and condescending bollocks that you would come to expect. We could do ourselves a lot of favours if we simply brush off this result as normal business and concentrate on beating Villa. I have a feeling though the club will release a DVD, which is only fire to the opinion of twats like Tyldesley/Green that beating them is ?our cup final?. Serious, we?ve moved on from that now.
Fair play to Shandy as well, forgot to say that ? great cross.
Jo, Gosling, Rodwell, Even shandy should be picked before him, and that’s just before Saha comes back!
Could shandy be the answer to our RM position? Baines and Pienaar one side, Hibbo and Shandy the other?
Phil, Fellaini is carrying an injury, hence the lacklustre display last night; he?s been like it since the Arsenal game which is why he only played an hour against Utd at the weekend as well.
The only reason Rodwell looked so good was that the RS were sitting right back by the time he came on ? I could've stroked the ball around as comfortably with all that time & space!
Technician was probably a red shite!
They were playing for pens all along but hey, these ?small? teams come to Goodison and shut up shop!!
Hahahaha!!!!
Not even ITV coverage can ruin that!
Can I also add my support to the criticism of the commentator to his surprise that no ’bigger’ club has come in for Cahill yet! Disgraceful! If my gut-feeling is right, Tiny is a 100% blue and is happy to stay with us. His work rate of late as our ’striker’ has been a sensation. He might not be the most technically-gifted of players, but his commitment to the cause is superb, and I think he should have a ’No Sale’ sign tattooed on him by Davey himself forthwith! Tim’s well on the way to being a legend (cue after dinner speaking tours in 2015+)
Last point - I would like to praise Baines and Hibbo for their work rate and improvement of late (well done - especially as I’ve been one of Hibbo’s detractors in previous seasons). As for Jags - well, words fail me - solid as a rock - respect due!
Count yourselves lucky - I’d taped the replay on my Dutch digital recorder as I was out at the Rotterdam derby - and the darned thing didn’t even record the extra time despite me having extended the recording until midnight! So didn’t know the result until I checked Facebook and the Beeb. What a feeling - I probably woke the neighbours at 1.20am though, but really didn’t care!
As for Tyldesley’s Cahill comment, he never said "I wonder why a big club hasn’t come in for him." He said "Apologies to Everton fans, but I do wonder why a club which has had more recent success hasn’t taken a punt on him." And that’s an understandable comment - obviously referring to an Arsenal or Chelsea.
I keep imagining Benitez turning on the TV looking for a bit of light relief from his day job by checking how the Iraqi elections went, only to see Gosling score again for the umpteenth time.
If he wasn?t paranoid before the game, he will be now...
Second posting on TW and I bizarrely get the name of our newest star wrong. Can only blame it one of two things: I was still pissed and celebrating, or maybe my burglars nicked some of my brain... Still, at least I didn?t say that Jags was currently the best centre forward in the world...
Let's hope for a great result on Saturday, when Tom Cahill and Michael Arteta are playing out of their skins....
Anyway on to my point, is it just me or did anyone else have a problem with last night's commentator getting ever so excited every time he mentioned the word "Torres" or that lot got anywhere near our goal. And some of his comments, enough to make my ears hiss my steam. The best one had to be...
"Liverpool hold a sizeable height advantage over Everton here, the average outfield player height for Everton is ust over 5ft 10" with Liverpool just under 6ft" Now call me stupid but isn't that just about 2" max? Sizeable? Now I am sure we would all like an extra 2 "to call our own but enough to comment?
"Gwladys Street ? Everton's equivalent to The Spion Kop" was another? Who is this twat? And to have Jim Beglin sat next to him ? why not just invite John Barnes from Channel 5 or that prick from Radio 5 Live? We know that referees favour the so called bigger 4 clubs but I am pretty damn sure it all starts from the media and this silly portrail?
Anyone seen anything in the news about sock/coin throwing today ? you bet your life you haven't and pretty sure you won't either!
Fortunately Everton's next game against Villa is on Setanta.


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