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Things you can't say to a fellow Evertonian
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I was made up with the result the other night. But this game still showed up the problem with the team. A poor midfield. The lack of creativity is obvious.
Osman is just not good enough and Fellaini is nowhere near a £15m player. No pace, no engine, no decent tackle, no shot, can't beat a man. All he has to his game is nuisance value in the air and a decent pass when given a bit of room. There's been 4 or 5 midfield players on the market during and since the summer who would have done a really good job for us for a third of Fellaini's price tag. And with Neville's limitations in midfield it all adds up to a poor midfield. Say this to a fellow Evertonian though and you get blasted.
We have been 2 players away from having a well-balanced team for the last 5 years and we are still 2 players away, although surely Gosling deserves a place in the side now. And Arteta has shown in the last few weeks how foolish it was to keep using him as a wide man.
No doubt I'll get blasted for this article, especially after Wednesday, but it's true. That's why we always come unstuck. Beating Liverpool was great but I want us to do more than that.
Ged Dwyer, Posted 06/02/2009 at 09:04:58
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Ged - first, can you list the ’4 or 5’ players that wouild have done a job for us? Not having a go, just interested to hear a few more details.
I suppose generally, considering what we as fans aspire to, the team will never be good enough, there are always areas that can be improved upon. But isn’t the point that, due to lack of money etc (a separate issue i think) we’re greater than the sum of our parts, especially st the moment?
I suppose generally, considering what we as fans aspire to, the team will never be good enough, there are always areas that can be improved upon. But isn’t the point that, due to lack of money etc (a separate issue i think) we’re greater than the sum of our parts, especially st the moment?
I think you have stated the obvious. We lack guile, creativity and invention in midfield. True, we have a lot of industry but I hope we can address this on-going problem in the transfer market in the summer.
Think you are a bit unfair on Fellaini, he was garbage the other night, but was this due to his injury? I think he has started to show what he will offer for us most likely next season, against Arsenal some of his first touch, close control and hold up play with his head and chest was right up there with the best and we seem to forget how young he is.
You have a point on a few things but our last seven games against the so called big four we have been beaten once, that to me is progress compared to previous seasons playing these teams, a couple more signings in the summer should create a serious bid for the top four but that is easier said than done given our failure to capitalise on good work in previous seasons.
I didn't think Phil Lynott played well on Wednesday ? but I just read he was carrying a back injury ? so was not 100%. Well that explains why he was not challenging for headers in the game and didn't look as good as he has done.
Overall he has been a solid signing, composed on the ball, takes it down, picks out passes and has a height threat from free-kicks. Indeed our team have seriously lacked good composed ball players over the the last 10 years or so, if not longer, but that tide has changed more recently. Therefore I believe, with youth on his side, he has an essential role to play in us becoming a top class side into the future. I think he?s worth the investment.
Overall he has been a solid signing, composed on the ball, takes it down, picks out passes and has a height threat from free-kicks. Indeed our team have seriously lacked good composed ball players over the the last 10 years or so, if not longer, but that tide has changed more recently. Therefore I believe, with youth on his side, he has an essential role to play in us becoming a top class side into the future. I think he?s worth the investment.
I?m somewhere between the two of you.
I?ve never rated Fellaini and IMO we definitely need to beef the MF up. I thought Fernandes was the ideal player for that.
However, all the players and Moyes keep saying what an improvement Fellaini has brought to the team and in his defence he has been played out of his best position and has been carrying an ankle injury so maybe he has something we can't see right now.
I believe we need a wide players to back up Pienaar (frequently injured or suspended) and I don't believe VdM is a 90-minute man now, although Gosling might fit the bill on the right.
And we definitely need a centre MF in place of Neville and to cover Arteta for injuries.
That aside with the strikers all fit again and the team spirit we?ve got I think we could break into the CL 4.
So Billy Boy ? stop watching this space for 24/7, drop Kirkby and get some investment in the squad.
I?ve never rated Fellaini and IMO we definitely need to beef the MF up. I thought Fernandes was the ideal player for that.
However, all the players and Moyes keep saying what an improvement Fellaini has brought to the team and in his defence he has been played out of his best position and has been carrying an ankle injury so maybe he has something we can't see right now.
I believe we need a wide players to back up Pienaar (frequently injured or suspended) and I don't believe VdM is a 90-minute man now, although Gosling might fit the bill on the right.
And we definitely need a centre MF in place of Neville and to cover Arteta for injuries.
That aside with the strikers all fit again and the team spirit we?ve got I think we could break into the CL 4.
So Billy Boy ? stop watching this space for 24/7, drop Kirkby and get some investment in the squad.
Fellaini’s clearly been playing with an injury the last couple of games, before that he was dominating matches for us. Considering he’s a twenty-one year old I think he’s got a fantastic future in the game.
To me, he’s clearly a talent in world football and over the next two years will seem like a snip at £15m - let’s not forget that’s the same price as an aging Bellamy in today’s market.
I have no idea who the four or five midfielders that would have been better signings are?
Neville’s also been having a fantastic season for us, both at RB and even, surprisingly, in midfield.
I think the real problem for us is finding a couple of pacy wingers who can beat a man or two - Young and Valencia, please Bill!
To me, he’s clearly a talent in world football and over the next two years will seem like a snip at £15m - let’s not forget that’s the same price as an aging Bellamy in today’s market.
I have no idea who the four or five midfielders that would have been better signings are?
Neville’s also been having a fantastic season for us, both at RB and even, surprisingly, in midfield.
I think the real problem for us is finding a couple of pacy wingers who can beat a man or two - Young and Valencia, please Bill!
Yep, we all know what we need ? a decent wide player and someone to take the burden from Arteta when needed. Trouble is, wingers aren?t exactly easy to come by ? O?Neill knows how lucky he is to have Young, and most players in that position are over priced (especially for us!). Even Downing would be beyond us.
So we know what we need, but we?re doing OK so far (and let?s be honest, Cahill and Arteta would make it into most if not all starting line ups in the Prem).
So we know what we need, but we?re doing OK so far (and let?s be honest, Cahill and Arteta would make it into most if not all starting line ups in the Prem).
Can?t argue with you there Ged, apart from Arteta, the quality of the rest of the midfield is okay, nothing more, but as a unit they do a good job.
I?m still scratching my head over Fellaini, one week he looks decent, the next he looks like he playing with a pair of lead boots on. He just doesn?t look like the type of player who will take a game by the scruff of the neck. Also, I know he is still only 21, but when has age got anything to do with ability?
Most of the time when I see him play, I can?t get the image out of my head, of a player who my other half (who know?s her footy, even though she is a big Man U fan) said he reminded her of, Carlton Palmer.
I?m still scratching my head over Fellaini, one week he looks decent, the next he looks like he playing with a pair of lead boots on. He just doesn?t look like the type of player who will take a game by the scruff of the neck. Also, I know he is still only 21, but when has age got anything to do with ability?
Most of the time when I see him play, I can?t get the image out of my head, of a player who my other half (who know?s her footy, even though she is a big Man U fan) said he reminded her of, Carlton Palmer.
He’s playing well out of position - dont you remember wghat Jagielka was like in MF or RB before he played centre half for us?
And i too would be interested to hear who these 4 or 5 players are that were available for a third the price.
And i too would be interested to hear who these 4 or 5 players are that were available for a third the price.
I'm pretty sure that other teams managers, before playing Everton, used to spend their time thinking about how to stop Arteta and to be fair when they did it worked. Now they have Fellaini to contend with and trust me they (other managrs) spend time thinking about it so never mind what he brings to our team on the pitch coz he brings plenty but he also affects how other teams line up and play against us.
I agree however that there are somethings that dont go down well on Toffeeweb especially after beating the shite, here is another one, Gosling (great finish aside) played like Osman has done in recent weeks and said himself that he had a few poor touches. Osman had a good second half and extra time and Hibbert was fantastic apart from a 2-minute spell at the start of extra time.
I don't think any of my points of criticism or anybody else's should be based on Wednesday's game as our squad is so stretched and players are playing out of position and injured on the back of probably the toughest 5 fixtures we have faced in a bloody long time.
I agree however that there are somethings that dont go down well on Toffeeweb especially after beating the shite, here is another one, Gosling (great finish aside) played like Osman has done in recent weeks and said himself that he had a few poor touches. Osman had a good second half and extra time and Hibbert was fantastic apart from a 2-minute spell at the start of extra time.
I don't think any of my points of criticism or anybody else's should be based on Wednesday's game as our squad is so stretched and players are playing out of position and injured on the back of probably the toughest 5 fixtures we have faced in a bloody long time.
What a wanker! I knew it wouldn't be long till someone tried to bring us down after Wednesday, can't even be happy for more than a day huh!! And its bullshit ? for a shit midfield, we?re doing pretty well pal.
Why fans use a player?s price tag as a stick to beat him with is beyond me. Marouane didn?t set his fee ? Everton and Liege did that so it?s utterly pointless to say "I expect more for £15m" or words to that effect.
It grinds my gears when Evertonians say they expect more for the money we paid for him. Because given the circumstances of his arrival (last minute, new to this league, new to the country, the language barrier & his arrival at a time when the whole club was in turmoil) I?d say he?s performed really well.
He gave an interview the other day in which he admits some of his bookings have been his own fault but he?s trying to learn. The time to pass judgement is at least 12 months away especially because by then he?ll have had a full pre-season under his belt.
He?s clearly been bought as a midfielder and when the time is right that?s where David?ll play him. Plus only David knows exactly what type of player he wants to sign to play alongside him. Do I have to remind you that we remain a club who can only make one major signing at a time? Not ideal but sadly true nonetheless.
You?re right about one thing though, Greg, there are indeed some things you can?t say to an Evertonian ? "patience" being the most obvious.
It grinds my gears when Evertonians say they expect more for the money we paid for him. Because given the circumstances of his arrival (last minute, new to this league, new to the country, the language barrier & his arrival at a time when the whole club was in turmoil) I?d say he?s performed really well.
He gave an interview the other day in which he admits some of his bookings have been his own fault but he?s trying to learn. The time to pass judgement is at least 12 months away especially because by then he?ll have had a full pre-season under his belt.
He?s clearly been bought as a midfielder and when the time is right that?s where David?ll play him. Plus only David knows exactly what type of player he wants to sign to play alongside him. Do I have to remind you that we remain a club who can only make one major signing at a time? Not ideal but sadly true nonetheless.
You?re right about one thing though, Greg, there are indeed some things you can?t say to an Evertonian ? "patience" being the most obvious.
Fellani is a great young player.
The only reason he was below par during last match was because of an injury he had to have injections in order to play.
Much like arteta when he was playing with an injury. You perform at 70% of your potential.
He provides a lot of strength to a very light weight midfield and has good passing play for a man of his size.
The only reason he was below par during last match was because of an injury he had to have injections in order to play.
Much like arteta when he was playing with an injury. You perform at 70% of your potential.
He provides a lot of strength to a very light weight midfield and has good passing play for a man of his size.
Ged you old blawbag......enjoy the win and stop moaning about Osman.
He earns his place in the team and he’s loyal to the cause....
He earns his place in the team and he’s loyal to the cause....
Easy Liam, he’s making a valid point. He’s right, we do need to make improvements in our midfield if we’re going to be consistently challenging for the top 4/silverware. Osman and Neville do a job but they’re not good enough to start in cm week in and week out imo.
I do disagree about Fellaini though, i reckon nexy season will be the time to judge him.
I do disagree about Fellaini though, i reckon nexy season will be the time to judge him.
Ged
We have not been 2 players away from a well balanced team for the last 5 years. By "well balanced" I assume you mean good? as a team can be perfectly balanced and shite.
Fellaini has been played out of position for the past 2 months. He was also carrying a non-trivial injury on Wed but played anyway. He;s also basically still a kid who’s just moved to a new country and doesn;t speak the lingo. I have no doubt whatsoever that we will see the best of Fellaini next season. That’s my intellient assumption based on several obvious factors.
Our midfield does lack creativity on occasions. Our bank account also lacks funds. Are the two connected do you think? I would be delighted, no, ecstatic, if we could get Moutinho and M’Bia. We could then challenge for the title. But it takes money that we don’t really have, unless perhaps if we finish 4th.
Until such time as we do get available funds through our own efforts (rather than given to us by a billionaire), I will be content with what we have. I cringe at the occasional hoof ball and suicide pass, but I get a huge emotional uplift from seeing & sharing in the performances, team work, style and success of this current team.
There is always room and need for improvement. But keep it in perspective. When Kenwright & Moyes took over the club was a basket case, full of under achievers, old farts and prima donnas. We were defaulting on transfer payments and being forced to leave players out and the bank puled our overdraft because it lost all faith in the board. On the pitch we were relegation material every year.
Without any large influx of cash, we have consistently broken our transfer record and gradually overhauled an entire squad. We now have our youngest, strongest and most valuable squad in over 20 years. We have also finished top 6 for almost 5 year son the spin and got back into Europe for the first time in years (and looked comfortable).
It takes time Ged. And if you can’t take pleasure in events like Wednesday night, particularly given our recent history, then one wonders what it is you need or expect from Everton to be content. You need to get used to where & what we are, otherwise you will only get more pissed off.
We have not been 2 players away from a well balanced team for the last 5 years. By "well balanced" I assume you mean good? as a team can be perfectly balanced and shite.
Fellaini has been played out of position for the past 2 months. He was also carrying a non-trivial injury on Wed but played anyway. He;s also basically still a kid who’s just moved to a new country and doesn;t speak the lingo. I have no doubt whatsoever that we will see the best of Fellaini next season. That’s my intellient assumption based on several obvious factors.
Our midfield does lack creativity on occasions. Our bank account also lacks funds. Are the two connected do you think? I would be delighted, no, ecstatic, if we could get Moutinho and M’Bia. We could then challenge for the title. But it takes money that we don’t really have, unless perhaps if we finish 4th.
Until such time as we do get available funds through our own efforts (rather than given to us by a billionaire), I will be content with what we have. I cringe at the occasional hoof ball and suicide pass, but I get a huge emotional uplift from seeing & sharing in the performances, team work, style and success of this current team.
There is always room and need for improvement. But keep it in perspective. When Kenwright & Moyes took over the club was a basket case, full of under achievers, old farts and prima donnas. We were defaulting on transfer payments and being forced to leave players out and the bank puled our overdraft because it lost all faith in the board. On the pitch we were relegation material every year.
Without any large influx of cash, we have consistently broken our transfer record and gradually overhauled an entire squad. We now have our youngest, strongest and most valuable squad in over 20 years. We have also finished top 6 for almost 5 year son the spin and got back into Europe for the first time in years (and looked comfortable).
It takes time Ged. And if you can’t take pleasure in events like Wednesday night, particularly given our recent history, then one wonders what it is you need or expect from Everton to be content. You need to get used to where & what we are, otherwise you will only get more pissed off.
Youre right Ged theres room for improvement in the midfield with osman being the weak link he was shite again the other night, can you imagine if it had gone to penalties and we had got knocked out because of osmans sitter the mans just not strong enough for our midfield i know piennars a midget but he can beat players . fellainis still settling in but i wish he would jump for headers and dont say he doesnt have to because hes 7 foot tall
Wow, you have to be feeling like a hero now after all you are showing all of the Everton defiance?s. You are another of the realists of the NSNO brigade, show us our shortcomings and limitations we will appreciate it, now I know that you care about Everton and you loved when we scored in 118-th min and bla, bla, bla? but its simply pity that Liverpool couldn?t beat us on penalties so you can come here and bleat about Moyes bottling it again, how he is out of his depth, caught like a rabbit in the lights, how you are fed up with his boring, negative tactics, how can everyone else see that Osman, Fellaini and Neville are shit but not this prick Moyes.
The matter is that we played 3 of the best sides in the world in space of 18 days and we lost only one game to a penalty, which if it was a reverse situation I am not sure, that it would have been given. I know that fixture congestion doesn?t matter for you, after all its 11 against 11 and how are they trained, nothing to do with finances, not should the injuries have any impact no our game, that Osman is carrying injury and playing through the pain barrier, that Fellaini is also carrying an injury and was obvious that he was unfit should not bother you at all, nor the fact that Cahill is playing with knocks and bruises, nor Pienaar limping of early in the second half, nor that we were playing without any recognised striker with players played out of position, nor the hurtful sight of our bench consisting of raw teenagers . All of that should not bother you; after all you want the best for the team, you want more.
The spirit that the team has shown, the organisational skills of Neville in the middle of the park assisting both Rodwell and Gosling, the attitude of all the players playing for a win, their will, their work rate and togetherness, the response of the teenagers that came, the gung ho substitutions of the manager, the sight of jaded, injury-hit but lion-hearted squad fighting to defy odds should not bother you at all ? feel free to come and tell us how shit our midfield is.
There are times when I am proud to be Evertonian, there are times when you cant do nothing but admire the courage of the team and give them standing ovation, there are times that will stay forever in the memory ? Wednesday was one of them.
I feel really, really sorry for people like you, stephan stewart and some others - if you cant enjoy those moments and concentrate on the negatives you are poor, poor persons
The matter is that we played 3 of the best sides in the world in space of 18 days and we lost only one game to a penalty, which if it was a reverse situation I am not sure, that it would have been given. I know that fixture congestion doesn?t matter for you, after all its 11 against 11 and how are they trained, nothing to do with finances, not should the injuries have any impact no our game, that Osman is carrying injury and playing through the pain barrier, that Fellaini is also carrying an injury and was obvious that he was unfit should not bother you at all, nor the fact that Cahill is playing with knocks and bruises, nor Pienaar limping of early in the second half, nor that we were playing without any recognised striker with players played out of position, nor the hurtful sight of our bench consisting of raw teenagers . All of that should not bother you; after all you want the best for the team, you want more.
The spirit that the team has shown, the organisational skills of Neville in the middle of the park assisting both Rodwell and Gosling, the attitude of all the players playing for a win, their will, their work rate and togetherness, the response of the teenagers that came, the gung ho substitutions of the manager, the sight of jaded, injury-hit but lion-hearted squad fighting to defy odds should not bother you at all ? feel free to come and tell us how shit our midfield is.
There are times when I am proud to be Evertonian, there are times when you cant do nothing but admire the courage of the team and give them standing ovation, there are times that will stay forever in the memory ? Wednesday was one of them.
I feel really, really sorry for people like you, stephan stewart and some others - if you cant enjoy those moments and concentrate on the negatives you are poor, poor persons
People like you are never happy. Your asessment of Fellaini is rediculas, Fellaini has showed in spells his potential and how effective he can be.
He is still in the proccess of adjusting and settling into a new environment and needs time to adapt, much like Arteta, piennar and Jaggs did, hes a young lad give him a break and im sure he Gosling or Rodwel can be that 2 players you crave
He is still in the proccess of adjusting and settling into a new environment and needs time to adapt, much like Arteta, piennar and Jaggs did, hes a young lad give him a break and im sure he Gosling or Rodwel can be that 2 players you crave
Ged, after years of shite football sometimes the negativity is so ingrained in Evertonians that you just can’t help yourself. You can’t help but have a negative outlook on it all.
Our midfield outclassed the team who are 2nd in the league. We created the best chances and dominated even before the shite went down to 10 men. Try and think ’glass half full’ for a bit. Well done Alan Kirwin, far more reasonable opinion.
Our midfield outclassed the team who are 2nd in the league. We created the best chances and dominated even before the shite went down to 10 men. Try and think ’glass half full’ for a bit. Well done Alan Kirwin, far more reasonable opinion.
Take your point Ged, however, I for one must say that since mid December EFC have, in my opinion, been a revelation.
I think we need to understand that considering our financial situation we are doing excellent, especially when you consider the other so called lower clubs below us and how much money they have spent.
I also believe that since we have been in the situation of having limited forwards, it has prompted our side to start playing football on the ground, and its looking good in my eyes.
I also believe that as a natural thing, players go through good and bad patches, I think Pienaar & Osman are those current unlucky players.
COYB
I think we need to understand that considering our financial situation we are doing excellent, especially when you consider the other so called lower clubs below us and how much money they have spent.
I also believe that since we have been in the situation of having limited forwards, it has prompted our side to start playing football on the ground, and its looking good in my eyes.
I also believe that as a natural thing, players go through good and bad patches, I think Pienaar & Osman are those current unlucky players.
COYB
Just to say Stefan and Alan I really enjoyed your pieces. Great stuff.
I think the difficulty I have here is in the tone of comments like Ged’s. The truth is that probably we all agree with the basic points: we are at least a creative midfielder and a genuine winger (and some fit strikers) away from being a really top challenging team. Of course! (Essien, Carrick and Ashley Young would really make a difference!)
Buy why the tone of blame and negativity? Why lash out at Osman, Neville and Fellaini? The first looks tired, but gave the RS more problems on Wednesday than any of their expensive signings gave us. Neville is a revelation in centre mid now alongside Mikel. And Fellaini is playing out of position, injured, is young, a great prospect... (it’s all already been said).
Let me really say something you shouldn’t say to a fellow Evertonian. This "but I expect more than that!" attitude reminds me of nothing so much as the Red Shite’s sense of automatic entitlement. We are not entitled to anything. Nothing. Except to see our club use its available resources to the maximum, our manager and players perform to the absolute limit of their potential, and Everton as a whole to behave with professionalism, class and dignity. And if you can’t see that this is what we are doing right now, then I feel sorry for you.
I think the difficulty I have here is in the tone of comments like Ged’s. The truth is that probably we all agree with the basic points: we are at least a creative midfielder and a genuine winger (and some fit strikers) away from being a really top challenging team. Of course! (Essien, Carrick and Ashley Young would really make a difference!)
Buy why the tone of blame and negativity? Why lash out at Osman, Neville and Fellaini? The first looks tired, but gave the RS more problems on Wednesday than any of their expensive signings gave us. Neville is a revelation in centre mid now alongside Mikel. And Fellaini is playing out of position, injured, is young, a great prospect... (it’s all already been said).
Let me really say something you shouldn’t say to a fellow Evertonian. This "but I expect more than that!" attitude reminds me of nothing so much as the Red Shite’s sense of automatic entitlement. We are not entitled to anything. Nothing. Except to see our club use its available resources to the maximum, our manager and players perform to the absolute limit of their potential, and Everton as a whole to behave with professionalism, class and dignity. And if you can’t see that this is what we are doing right now, then I feel sorry for you.
For the Fellaini fans and for the record, I?m not having a go at him, I?m having a go at Moyes for spending a ridiculous £15m on him when he could have bought 3 quality players for that money.
And he?s actually shown more up front, mainly because of his height than he did when playing in midfield. My question to the Fellaini fans is: When has he shown any pace, name all his great shots on goal, name all the great dribbles he?s done, all the clean tackles he?s done and not the clumsy fouls he gives away, and when has he grabbed a game by the scruff of the neck???
And does he drift about or run his socks off? We?re talking £15m here. You don?t buy a promising player for that type of money. Let?s see how the new Arsenal player who cost a similar amount fares. If you can?t see the point I?m making there?s no hope.
It?s true, there are better players out there than we have in our squad. In fact, there?s almost certainly a better player for every position, if only we could afford them. Unfortunately we can?t, so Moyes is fashioning a very effective team from the squad at his disposal, a squad he is continuing to make incremental improvements to as & when he is able to do so.
However, when those players have, for the most part, given their all over the last few very demanding matches, it seems somewhat churlish to criticise the performances of players who are obviously running near enough on empty & in the case of some, including Fellaini & Osman, carrying injuries. The original post seems to me a wholly pointless gripe at a time when most blues are celebrating a victory we, in theory, had no right to expect. Shameful!
5 tough games against the best the Prem have to offer during which we?ve only been beaten by Man U. Fellaini only plays after having an injection and still we have the glass half empty brigade spouting bile.
Good grief!!
Good grief!!
Ged, how can you pass judgement on a guy who?s only in his first season of English football. Overall, I think he has performed very well with a few blips here and there but that is to be expected. Look at another man who cost Spurs a similar amount, Luka Modric. You can?t say he has lived up to expectations so far this season. He has scored only 1 goal in 20 games compared to Marouane?s 4 in 18.
I can?t believe you base your argument on a player who has yet to kick a ball in anger in the Premier League, Andrei Arshavin. He turns 28 this year so I can?t see him having more that 4 quality years in him. Fellaini has a lot of upside as he is still 21. I think you will regret the day you made these comments, sooner rather than later.
Ged, like Anthony I’m interested to hear who all these players are,
Cheers
Cheers
You are right only for one thing ? there is no hope for you ever to understand anything about football, your questions is like Ciaran?s not long ago "for what use is Cahill as a playmaker".
Ged, Arshavin is 27, for a team like Everton to spend £16m on a player that is only likley to be at the top of his game for another couple of seasons would be suicide, Fellaini is likley to have 10 good seasons ahead of him and is no where near his prime or the finished product. I think in the long term we will see Everton have the better prospect.
You only choose to see the negatives in him, ?what he cant do?, the same way many teams judged Cahill before we signed him.
Moyes pics a player for what he can do and what he can offer the team.
Fellaini offers the team height which was desperatly needed and which suited our system for when out defenders hoof the ball up field. He keeps possession very well, his passing is very good, he contributes with the odd goal, he does what is needed and tends to keep it simple but when needed I have seen him beat his man both for skill and pace. He has pleasantly surprised me on a number of occasions were he has got himself out of situations that a lot wouldnt. There is a lot more to come from this lad and for you to write him off is just stupid.
In Moyes I trust!
You only choose to see the negatives in him, ?what he cant do?, the same way many teams judged Cahill before we signed him.
Moyes pics a player for what he can do and what he can offer the team.
Fellaini offers the team height which was desperatly needed and which suited our system for when out defenders hoof the ball up field. He keeps possession very well, his passing is very good, he contributes with the odd goal, he does what is needed and tends to keep it simple but when needed I have seen him beat his man both for skill and pace. He has pleasantly surprised me on a number of occasions were he has got himself out of situations that a lot wouldnt. There is a lot more to come from this lad and for you to write him off is just stupid.
In Moyes I trust!
Fellaini was bought because of our scouting network(!) and the job he did on Steven Gerrard-man in the CL qualifying rounds for Standard Liege. He?s certainly one for the future. I get equally peeved and elated when he does something as stupid as kicking Alonso as the ball ran out for a goal kick on Weds night.
On the one hand I was thinking "Christ, don?t get yourself booked/sent off for such a minor thing", and on the other I was wishing that I?d applied the boot myself.
You’re more than welcome to say those things to any Evertonian. However don’t get arsey when someone disagrees with you, especially when given good reason!
I think Neil Pearse nailed it:
"We are not entitled to anything. Nothing. Except to see our club use its available resources to the maximum, our manager and players perform to the absolute limit of their potential, and Everton as a whole to behave with professionalism, class and dignity. And if you can?t see that this is what we are doing right now, then I feel sorry for you. "
That’s why we are blue and not red.
"We are not entitled to anything. Nothing. Except to see our club use its available resources to the maximum, our manager and players perform to the absolute limit of their potential, and Everton as a whole to behave with professionalism, class and dignity. And if you can?t see that this is what we are doing right now, then I feel sorry for you. "
That’s why we are blue and not red.
Plus, unlike the Arse-shaving lad, he’s not on 70 grand a week. Bargain!
Make that FOUR players away from being a good side.The team is still crying out for TWO midfielders and TWO strikers to add to the pack.Recent RELATIVE success has been based on the brilliant defending-a Moyes speciality.Real quality is lacking in both the other departments.
Moyes has been here 7 years next month. In the ten years before he came we finished in the top six once {although Royle did win the cup as well}, yet still some people like to moan and have a go at him.
By the way, please name these mystery players who were available for a third of the price of Fellaini. You may not rate him but don't talk shit just to try and prove a point.
By the way, please name these mystery players who were available for a third of the price of Fellaini. You may not rate him but don't talk shit just to try and prove a point.
People should stop moaning, we have a fantastic midfield, that?s why we have been able to cope without any strikers. Screech is a good player as is Ossie. COYB.
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Modern football is as much about mental strength as it is about ability. Also having an out and out striker will only help the team to focus in an attacking sense. We?re not perfect by a long shot, but we are getting there.