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Moysey's Cracking Up?

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Just watched this video of Moyes storming out of Interview after being asked a simple question about Anichibe. Its painful to watch. Am suprised but it is obviously a sore subject!
Andy Ferguson, Merseyside     Posted 06/02/2009 at 13:22:04

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Lyndon Lloyd
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1   Posted 06/02/2009 at 18:32:33

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I found it highly amusing to watch, actually. I?ll bet the press were told quite clearly that the Anichebe issue was off the table and that "he is injured" would be the end of discussion.

Far from storming out, he just calmly gets up and walks out having stonewalled the reporter?s follow-up questions. The man is nothing if not principled...

Paul Daly
2   Posted 06/02/2009 at 18:35:54

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.....I think he clammed up so as not to launch into a Christian Bale-type rant. Clever.
Matt Gibbs
3   Posted 06/02/2009 at 18:36:17

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I’ve seen a lot of this "Moyes storming out" thing today, but having just seen the video, I have to agree with Lyndon. They must have been told that the issue would not be covered; it’s the incredulous look that I like...
James Marshall
4   Posted 06/02/2009 at 18:45:05

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I thought it was brilliant - good on him, theres nothing that says a manager has to answer anything he doesnt want to.

Having strong principles is something I love about Davey, and good on him for giving them the silent treatment. I was laughing and cheering him as he sat there in silence; good on you Davey!
Lyndon Lloyd
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5   Posted 06/02/2009 at 18:50:34

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Moyes apparently called TalkSport after the incident to set the record straight, explaining that it was agreed before the press conference that only one question would be permitted on the subject of Anichebe.
Chris Jones
6   Posted 06/02/2009 at 18:48:06

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I think that’s exactly the way to treat a question like that.

It’s gone, it’s old news, we won the game and some prick still wants to talk about hearsay...

Good on Moyes
Anthony Dyer
7   Posted 06/02/2009 at 18:52:59

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Surely it would have been better to explain to the reporter that the guidelines were set prior to the conference and that no more questions on that subject would be replied to. Given our neighbours lack of grace and respect to all things Everton we cannot expect the Press to be even-handed in their treatment of the club , neither should we give them any ammunition to deflect from the circus which is LFC.
We need the media as much as any club (maybe more) and so walking out on them is not the smartest thing to do.
Dr Jacob Crumble
8   Posted 06/02/2009 at 18:53:30

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As Moyes likes to say, at Everton we do things with class and dignity... Incidents like this are dealt with internally!

Certain other managers and clubs could learn alot from this rather than wash all their dirty laundry in public.

Even on Granada Reports they made more of it by saying he stored out but as Lyndon said, he just slowly stood up from his chair and walked out calmly, these sensationalist journos are never happy unless they’re creating big fictional headlines...
Dr Jacob Crumble
9   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:01:11

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typo above sorry...

"stormed out"
Rob Fox
10   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:01:48

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He was getting stick off Durham on Talksport so he rang up and put him straight. The particular journalist has asked if he could talk about Vic, Moyes agreed but specified 1 question only. Durham shit himself and started licking up to him.

Sky think they can do what they like.
Andy Mac
11   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:05:52

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Very "Fergusonesque". Like you, Lyndon, I hear that Moyes had already briefed the press that (for reasons he had explained) he would not answer questions concerning the alleged VA incident. When some press member decided to ignore that, Moyes didn’t explode (Kinnear?) or crack up in confusion (Rafa?), but just gave a pokerface smile and refused to answer any further questions from the pratt who tried to break the rules. Great stuff, Moyesey. Dignity, as ever.
Steve Hopkins
12   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:06:15

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Andy Ferguson - you must be mistaking Moysee for the fat spanish waiter. Stupid red shite
Steve Jones
13   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:06:03

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Quite right as well - good on on Moyes. And did you see the look he gave the journo as he left the room - could have split him in two ! Bet he wont be invited back for a good while .

Bit like Ferguson and the BBC.
Big Jim Slade
14   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:04:38

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Rob Fox - absolutely right ,Durham the knob gobbler started lickin up to Moyes , Moyesey showed a lot of balls by phoning in and putting the record straight, it does however play up to Durham’s ego though. I am very proud of Davey and the way he handles the media, Everton have respect for the way they do things. The reporter was wrong for asking the 2nd question end of story. Moyes is a legend and we are lucky to have him.
James Marshall
15   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:10:10

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Cristian Bale, meet David Moyes......I think you two are gonna get along just fine!
Dave Wilson
16   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:03:29

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Moyes did call talk sport, Adrian Durham had been slating him.
DM wanted to put the record straight, he, stated catergorically that reports abot Vic this week were inaccurate, he revealed Vic had had a scan on Tuesday and it was discovered he was injured.
He also said the reporter was told this clearly before hand, but would be allowed one question, the reporter was mischieve making, he tried to take the piss, DM wasnt having it
Kase Chow
17   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:03:51

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Well done Moyes. He runs the club and handles situations for the best of the club-the guy has gone up even higher in my estimation. We are Everton. Respect the manager. Respect his wishes or you’ll get short shrift like from his mate at Man Ure. And I’ll be happy if Moyes wins a quarter of what Sir Alex has won COYB
David McKee
18   Posted 06/02/2009 at 18:59:02

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MMM even if it was agreed only one question about Victor before the Press Conference started. I thought Davy became either extremely angry or a tad emotional and showed tremendous reserve to stop from stripping the hack in pieces.

This Victor thing is totally crazy how can a young inexperienced insensitive footballer of dubious ability cause all this furure, at such a crucial time in this season. A time when everyone in the team and who come off the bench on Wednesday night was 110% solid for the team even Andy van der Meyde sent over a beautiful cross for Gossy. Andy Shandy at last did some business, shame on you Victor ? off to the stiffs for the rest of the season with you and then end up at Sheff Wed or Utd as another wannabe.

Mike Jennings
19   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:11:16

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Shame Heath Ledger has already acted ?The Joker? role ? Moyes would be perfect with that menacing stare and sly grin. Moyesie is dignity personified.
Peter Dancer
20   Posted 06/02/2009 at 18:37:41

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Hardly storming out. I’m with Lyndon on this one, he has principles, he’s not a ’kiss and tell’ kinda guy.
Andy MacFarlane
21   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:13:41

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Dave, I agree in a way with your response vis a vis Victor, but the thread is about David Moyes? handling of the press conference, and quite frankly I think he must have gone up in everyone?s estimation for handling the press vermin in the way he did.

As to Victor himself, time will tell. What Moyes has quite rightly done is to insist that whatever went on, the young man should be allowed to make whatever mistakes he (might have) made and face the consequences privately. That?s the "traditional" way of handling such situations. May I use the phrase "The Everton Way"? Objectively is that not the best approach for all concerned (except the press)?

Matthew Johnson
22   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:22:48

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What was very funny, well done Moyes.
Gerry Quinn
23   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:30:08

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Loved it ? how Moysie kept his face stone-dead, then the smiling assassin! Brilliant. You could sense the subsequent question was trying to back-pedal and hope to re-direct him ? oops too late......... Boy, I?d hate to upset Moysie, he?s worse than a "silent" wife ? and I think most of us have been through that phase!!!
Alan Clarke
24   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:36:13

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I was listening to that idiot Adrian Durham on Talksport saying Moyes lacked class for not responding to the question. I turned the radio off in annoyance before Moyes phoned up, what did Moyes say?
Ric Wallace
25   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:44:38

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That made me chuckle. Although I am often a critic of journalists for not asking enough pressing questions to managers, this really was out of order.

If you are told at the start of an interview to steer clear of a topic ? do so! As Lyndon mentioned, Moyes showed a lot of a dignity there, and stood by his principles.

He went even further up in my estimations when he rang in to that twat Adrian Durham on TalkSport and put the record straight.

On the actual issue itself, I can?t believe Anichebe didn?t realise how much of an effect that his stupid actions would take.

Thankfully we have such an excellent team spirit it has enabled us to pull together and get an excellent win in the Derby and hopefully tomorrow against Bolton too.
Stuart Hague
26   Posted 06/02/2009 at 19:57:13

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Having just watched it, I think Its very amusing. The journo scum is obviously quite embarrassed and tries to back track with questions about the Bolton game this weekend. I don't understand the headline of him storming out as he calmly just gets up and walks out.
Rupert Coghlan
27   Posted 06/02/2009 at 20:23:49

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David Moyes is a legend ? fair play for him calling up TalkSport and that muppet Durham. Wish I had heard that ? if anyone finds a clip etc somewhere then please post it.

Let Moysey do his job. Where would we be about David Moyes? Think about that for a couple of minutes. We would probably be in the sodding Championship. Instead we?re up in the top 6, fighting for a top four spot.

In Moyes we trust.
Michael Hunt
28   Posted 06/02/2009 at 20:19:05

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"OH DAVEY MOYES....
DAVEY DAVEY DAVEY MOYES,
DAVEY DAVEY DAVEY MOYES....
OH DAVEY MOYES!!!

Davey Moyes is a FKN LEGEND...
CLASS and DIGNITY, CLASS and DIGNITY :-)

Davey Moyes is an EVERTONIAN...

LOVE IT!!!!

Well in Davey, as ever, total focus on Everton, not the gutter press! :-)
Dave Roberts
29   Posted 06/02/2009 at 20:42:09

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I saw the video by following the link in the original post but the sound was so low I couldn’t hear it properly.

I tied it again just now by following the link on the TW Home page and the video has been taken off! There is just a note on the screen saying try again later. Has Davey threatened to sue them a la Rooney?!
Simon Walker
30   Posted 06/02/2009 at 20:49:57

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Maybe that?s the treatment the boys get when they?re not doing their jobs?

Was he not waiting for the other Journalists to ask a question? Feckin hilarious, they all left laddo to stew and wait for DM?s legendary response.

Mint.
Steve Carter
31   Posted 06/02/2009 at 20:48:06

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I agree with Anthony Dyer. David would have completely gained the high moral ground had he calmly said, ’We agreed that only one question would be asked about Victor Anichebe’, and simply either repeated that mantra or remaining silent if the journalist persisted, and then politely moved on to answer the questions on other topics. As it was, I thought he came across a tad too precious.
Jim Hourigan
32   Posted 06/02/2009 at 20:57:02

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Sorry folks I have to disagree. Moyes may well have told people before hand that he would only allow 1 question to be asked, but his reaction was, in my opinion childish and petulant. He should have given the reporter a clear indication of what was agreed and made it clear in public that the reporter was out of order. Any subsequent questions about Vic should have been followed by a clear and precise warning that he would terminate the conference for all those present if it continued (whilst still not answering any questions posed).

A skillful deflection of the blame onto the reporter should have ensued not a childish ?I?m not talking? approach. Like it or not these people influence public opinion and whilst they won?t affect us blues they will influence general opinions. In this case that clearly happened from what people report took place on Talksport. These people are all part of the same ?club? so alienating them serves little long term purpose. Ferguson gets away with it because he wins trophies, imagine the crap he would get for refusing to talk to the BBC and the radio if he?d won nothing!!!

Jonathan McGourty
33   Posted 06/02/2009 at 21:09:22

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Watched it a few times now and think it?s great. Nice one Moyes!
here?s a good link to the video.
http://itn.co.uk/videos/73bb6097b0f619ce2772ce85f7268503.html
David Edwards
34   Posted 06/02/2009 at 21:02:24

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I’m also slightly against the grain on this topic. Like Anthony and Steve I think a public reminder of the pre-agreement, a wry smile, silence to the journalist as he did his back-tracking follow-up question and even a ’next question’ to any of the other journalists would have completely won the moral high ground. Unfortunately, the RS loving media and idiots like Adrian Durham get something to latch onto. Well done Davey on phoning up, though. That was class.

Christian Bale v Our Davey - no contest!
Tim Welsh
35   Posted 06/02/2009 at 20:53:04

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I think David Moyes is living out a promise to Victor Anichebe. Whatever VA has done is being dealt with internally. He has made his apology, and was probably the loneliest man at Goodison on Wednesday, but I would expect that David Moyes would have told him that the press will ask questions, but that he would set a limit, for the sake of all concerned.The strained tones of the reporter betray fear and purpose, probably put up to it by an editor with a devotion to the evil filth.

As for the headlne ?storms out? ? has the writer ever spent time with a hormonal teenager, they know how to storm out. David simply walks out, but that look could curdle milk.

Ray Burn
36   Posted 06/02/2009 at 21:18:01

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All things considered I?m pro Grumpy Scottish Managers and anti incomprehensible and reprehensible Fat Spanish Waiters.
Keith Glazzard
37   Posted 06/02/2009 at 21:32:30

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That’s our lad that is - and it will do for me.

If you’re no good they ignore you, and if you’re winning they go for you. A good sign then.
Dave Wilson
38   Posted 06/02/2009 at 21:35:56

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It's on Talksport again, right now...
David Foster
39   Posted 06/02/2009 at 21:46:40

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I thought it was a very childish thing to do for Moysie to just walk out. Victor isn?t injured, there is nothing wrong with him. It was just easy for him to say that. I don?t understand why David had a problem with answering the question. He does not set a good example by just walking out and saying nothing
Dick Fearon
40   Posted 06/02/2009 at 21:13:57

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A well known Oz politician showed his contempt for the media and the public right to know by referrring to his press conferences as feeding corn to the chooks. That is exactly how club managers try to manipulate the media.

We slaver, frothing at the mouth when Benitez with his limited vocabulary in replying to media questions comes out with a blooper. We close ranks when Moyes refuses point blank to offer an answer. Whether he stormed, sauntered or ran from the conference the end result was the same. We, his adoring fans are denied information on a matter that may be trivial yet nonetheless of interest.

Viz a viz a very recent TW mailbag dicussion on this topic. Strong anger was expressed that reporters and managers formed a mutual appreciation society. No embarrassing or awkward questions were asked and we were treated like mushrooms. Now we know what happens when a reporter breaks the code by daring to ask an awkward question. All done with great Everton style dignity of course.

Mark Stone
41   Posted 06/02/2009 at 22:12:16

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"He should have given the reporter a clear indication of what was agreed and made it clear in public that the reporter was out of order"

I think that’s exactly what he did. In the most impressive way. Once again Moyes has made me proud to be a blue.
Kase Chow
42   Posted 06/02/2009 at 22:13:24

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David Foster, totally disagree.

I think that Moyes was caught unawares as much as anything. He requested it not be spoken about and it was brought up. He can?t have a pre-meditated reponse for every eventuality.
Dave Street
43   Posted 06/02/2009 at 22:07:56

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Does anyone have a link to Davey Moyes calling talk sport, that would be brilliant to listen to?
Alex
44   Posted 06/02/2009 at 22:31:12

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Get in there Moysie.
Art Jones
45   Posted 06/02/2009 at 22:30:01

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I?d bet a pound to a pinch of shite that Beneathus wishes he?d kept his big ugly gob shut for the last few weeks when interiewed by the media.
David Alexandera
46   Posted 06/02/2009 at 22:38:09

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What's a shame is all he had to do is take the question and eveyone would have moved on. All the talk about being dignified seems silly now. It looks unprofessional and reflects badly on the club.
Dick Fearon
47   Posted 06/02/2009 at 22:27:26

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The bottom line is, Are you happy that the only information you get is what Moyes or for that matter, anyone else want you to get.
Will Leaf
48   Posted 06/02/2009 at 22:46:57

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Posters battering Moyes are missing the point. I don?t think their is another top flight manager out there who handles their young players better than DM. DM knows there are bound to be questions about Anichebe, and there is no avoiding the issue completely. If Anichebe is to have a future at this club, the outside parasitic press interest needs to die down and the matter handled internally.

DM did not say the Anichebe issue is off limits...you have one question, so you better make it a good one. The ground rule was obviously set off camera and the "journalist" was trying to get a rise out of DM once the cameras were rolling...DM was having none of it.

Kevin Sparke
49   Posted 06/02/2009 at 22:50:16

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Two points.... Sir Alex Ferguson has the media by the bollocks by using exactly the same tactics Moyes uses. As a result he never gets asked difficult, probing questions and he sets the agenda at every interview. As a result he has a group of tame journos who would shit themselves if they were denied access to stories... so they toe the line. That?s called perfect media management... Fergie calls the shots. They need him more than he needs them. Sports Journalists apart from one or two notable exceptions are merely entertainment clerks paid to create stories for an ever hungry mass market... they rarely uncover any news. Moyes did exactly the right thing.

Second point... interesting to see the guys on here who never give Moyes any credit for anything lining up to take a pop... sort of reveals them for what they are.
Kase Chow
50   Posted 06/02/2009 at 22:58:42

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David Alexandera

You’ve missed the point. Undignified would have been to shout at the reporter. To abuse him. To order him out.

Unprofessional would have been to actively belittled the reporter.

Moysie should have been respected. He made a request and it wasn’t respected. Why should he then respond?
Andrew David James
51   Posted 06/02/2009 at 23:43:41

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Nothing wrong with what Moyesy did. Quite comical really. The press love making a story out of nothing so he said nothing rather than saying anything to be liberally interpreted by them. Yes, actions speak louder than words but I bet Victor will play for us again this season and this will all be forgotten about.

Victor is an average player, he’s not as good as Vaughan and is in danger of being over taken by Rodwell and Gosling. He’s been given a lot of game time and not really done much in the Prem (in UEFA Cup he was brilliant) and needs to come through this and define himself. Otherwise he will end up playing for someone in the Championship and that could be a slippery slope.

But if he’s been whinging about losing out to Cahill up front then he has no argument. Cahill works like mad while Victor doesn’t and concedes free kicks.

I hope DM gets him up and running because he does have a great future as a hold up striker if he works hard.
Dick Fearon
52   Posted 06/02/2009 at 23:51:43

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My final comment about this is that there is a lot of chooks out there.
Jason Broome
53   Posted 07/02/2009 at 00:01:52

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The press were looking to make Anichebe a scapegoat. He protected him by cutting off their supply - and inadvertently made himself the story... absolute integrity!

If Anichebe didn’t respect him before he does now!
Jamie Crowley
54   Posted 07/02/2009 at 00:20:24

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Link this. This is how you handle the media. It’s hilarious.

Go Moysie, and please watch the master handle the dumbass reporters!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Onfzet1xxs
Aaron Bailey
55   Posted 07/02/2009 at 01:50:46

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Moyes did the right thing. If a player thinks he is bigger than EFC then he deserves to be dropped. All the lads gave 100% Wednesday because they want to start for Everton. Places are earned not given. Let's give the lads a fantastic welcome on Saturday.
Paul Walsh
56   Posted 07/02/2009 at 03:49:34

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Moyes was a little bit all of the things said here, positively and negatively. The important thing here is, are we behind this man or what? I?m sure nothing will happen like that again. He?ll get a pass this time off the media I?m sure because he?s usually very frank and co-operative in conferences. However, as have some already mentioned he needs to maintain the relationship.

I would have loved to hear the exchange between him and that muppet Durham. Although I agree with the comment that said why give the gobshite the oxygen of publicity. One thing you can see clearly in that video is that there obviously must have been some fraught moments between him and Big Dunc when he was still here. Scarey! Ha ha!

Paul Davey
57   Posted 07/02/2009 at 05:42:08

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It wouldn't have been much worse for that reporter if Davey had pulled out a wet fish and slapped it across his face.

Go Moysey!
Richard Lum
58   Posted 07/02/2009 at 05:40:45

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Well...this should be the way to handle press asking off limit question. The message is clear and loud. Be quick and nimble and don’t ever give your opponents any space or opportunities. BTW isn’t this very Mosey the way he played the press or the games.
Michael Hunt
59   Posted 07/02/2009 at 07:52:24

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Just seen Sky News make a meal of this, showing the clip of Moyes not speaking and the Sky News presenter (not sure of the fella?s name) commented that Moyes was ?very arrogant and rude?. The other fella (the one covering the sports news) explained that Moyes had said in advance that they were only allowed one question on Victor Anichebe and that Moyes explained it is an issue being dealt with ?in-house? and that Everton do not wish to criticise any member of the club through the press, as at Everton we do things with class etc.

The main presenter then said, ?well he did not even appear to answer any question and it is very rude and arrogant and shows no class!?. He then went on to say that Managers should realise that they have a duty to speak to the media about issues of interest and that whilst it was rude to the press, it will be like water off a ducks back to the journos who are used to such things. They both then commented that there would probably a strong backlash reaction against Moyes from Everton fans!

Yeah right! David Moyes is clearly seeking to protect Everton Football Club and ensure we are talked about for what happens on the pitch, not turn into a media circus joke, like Newcastle United and Liverpool for example.

IMWT...COYB

Mick simopson
60   Posted 07/02/2009 at 09:51:42

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I thought Moyes was spot on, the media are after a story to spin, silence is golden, no words no spin, no twisted story.
Brian Noble
61   Posted 07/02/2009 at 10:06:24

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Moyes was childish and pathetic.All he had to say was that it was an internal matter which he did not wish to discuss-much as he said subsequently to TalkSport.Somebody should tell him that it is OUR money via Sky which pays his ridiculous wages and WE are entitled to more than a filmed walk-out.The arrogance of football managers knows no bounds!
Kevin Gillen
62   Posted 07/02/2009 at 10:16:47

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After watching the video I came to the conclusion that our Davey was visibly upset by the persistence of the journalist and rightly walked out and kept his own counsel. I dont think he would have wanted to do this as now the whole Anichebe affair is getting in the way of preparation for the Bolton match and obscuring the fantastic success we have had in the past few weeks. I’m sure given the difficulties Moyes has had in the past with young tyro centre forwards he is keen to assert himself on Anichebe, who is despite all the criticism levelled at him, a very promising young player. He is also a very silly young player if he thinks that spitting his dummy out is going to work with Moyes. I foresee a long period of obscurity in the reserves and an eventual transfer to Accrington Stanley for the lad.
Andy Herbert
63   Posted 07/02/2009 at 10:40:13

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Can’t make my mind up on this! He does have a wry smile a one point and then a look of annoyance as he leaves.

I think the answer is somewhere in the middle. It’s obviously a matter that has caused him both upset and anger! I do know that I’d rather him maintain his dignity by walking out as he did than to launch into an off the cuff response. The guy has my respect!
Brian Waring
64   Posted 07/02/2009 at 10:45:06

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You may know I have never been Moyes’s biggest fan. But he was spot on, and fucking good on him. Also, he didn’t storm out, he was asked by whoever was next to him " should we go and do the radio now "
Carl Caulfield
65   Posted 07/02/2009 at 11:31:59

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well done moyesy, take no shit from them cocky journalists! class i love him haha
nick flack
66   Posted 07/02/2009 at 11:46:24

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I’ve been to press conferences at a couple of lower league clubs, always very very funny occassions. It is always mentioned before they start if there’s anything that’s off topic, and made clear that certain questions will not be answered, and certainly if it’s a internal problem, usually any questions relating to the matter will bring about the end of the press conference.

So no mystery, just some smug reporter who ruined it for the others.
Declan Brown
67   Posted 07/02/2009 at 13:33:22

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Again like some others on here, i was very critical and highly disappointed in David Moyes over his contract and our poor start.

I was very impressed by Moyes yesterday and recently, press mob haven’t been giving him / the players the full praise they deserve recently. The glares he gave at the end gave me a chuckle, pure priceless Moyes at his best and as Brian says the Press Officer said to go and do the radio stuff now so he didn’t storm out, but those 2 glares he gave the reporter - loved it.

As for Durham, for Moyes to do that speaks volumes of the man. If there is something going on behind the scenes, the way he’s protecting the Club from the media is again something we should be proud of.

As for the dignity issue, during the 3 Derby’s period i witnessed Sky, ITV and Setanta reporters asking him spikey questions about Liverpool both before and after the games, i felt they were trying to bait him, he handled it brilliantly - i quote - "I don’t really care about Liverpool". That was a type of comment not heard from an Everton manager, but one i like to hear, since Joe Royle’s dummies out of the pram comment back in early 1995.

Moyes - 10 out of 10 in my book. I’m very proud of his responses to the media over the last 3-4 weeks. Give the man credit where it’s due, he’s deserved alot of credit over the last month, he’s quietly coming out of the Sky 4 shadows. Keep it up Davey.
Peter Hurley
68   Posted 07/02/2009 at 10:59:14

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He’s really starting to play the press as well as opposing managers, brilliant! It’s something that’s been missing in his make-up as a manager but since the end of last year he has really started to work on and excel in. Can’t really see anyone else laughing except us as we all know we’re starting to get under their skin because we now actually look like contenders. Imagine when we get a forward line again! Happiest days in years and long may it continue. Don’t care about them or anyone else, NSNO
Michael Hunt
69   Posted 07/02/2009 at 23:02:59

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Peter Hurley: No need to imagine now....Go’ed Jo lad! GET IN THERE!!!

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