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Lerner's Villa teach Everton vital lesson

I'd be interested to see what people's opinion on the following article published by the Guardian online:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/feb/15/fa-cup-everton-aston-villa-david-moyes

Is this a fair and true reflection in reality?
Ted Marshall, Ormskirk Posted 15/02/2009 at 20:25:47

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Jason Lam
1 Posted 16/02/2009 at 07:05:07

I submitted an article similar to this at TW a few months back, and was ridiculed by some of our fellow fans that I should be supporting villa instead...

I do admire their Acorns sponsorship deal.

I do not know what our relationship is with Alder Hey (if any) but I personally feel it would be more meaningful exposure than advertising crap beer.

’Alder Hey Hospital LIVERPOOL’ on our shirts say, but it won’t happen of course, we’re skint.

Gavin Ramejkis
2 Posted 16/02/2009 at 07:19:33

The gobshite who wrote it can’t count, it uses the People’s club quote from 2002 then says Moyes joined Everton as their manager 9 years ago, not a hard job to count is it?

Gary Tan
3 Posted 16/02/2009 at 08:08:50

I think that it is a fair article. We have often wondered how Everton would progress under Moyes with a bit more money....the likely answer is that we will be in the same position as Villa. I am blue through and through but not arrogant enough to fail to recognise that another team is working its way to the top "the right way"

Craig Ashford
4 Posted 16/02/2009 at 08:26:42

Gavin Ramejkis I noticed that too, what a clown, ha ha.

Simon Jones
5 Posted 16/02/2009 at 08:53:16

Jason Lam - nice thought, but I can’t see the word "Liverpool" on the shirt. You haven’t really thought that one through!

Tony Williams
6 Posted 16/02/2009 at 09:27:57

I actually stopped reading after the "when he joined 9 years ago"

If they cannot get the basics correct then not worth going on with it.

Dave Roberts
7 Posted 16/02/2009 at 09:33:01

Quite honestly I don’t see how Villa finding themselves a sugar daddy constitutes them teaching Everton a lesson?

If that were the case Manchester City have given us a whole Oxford University semester haven’t they????

It all seems a bit daft to me. Villa’s sugar daddy seems a sensible and clever bloke who is going about his ownership of Villa in a better way than most. More power to his elbow for that but as for teaching Everton a lesson?...just can’t see the lesson myself other than that we need a few more bob and you only need the IQ of a frog to know that!

The article was a total waste of space if you ask me..

Howard Don
8 Posted 16/02/2009 at 10:22:26

This article was an exercise in stating the bleeding obvious. Two clubs with great young(ish) British Managers the one with financial backing more likely to achieve success in the long term. Brilliant!

Mark Stone
9 Posted 16/02/2009 at 10:26:37

I have absolutely no idea what point the journalist is trying to make here. If Villa do make the CL they are just another example of a club who have ’bought’ success in the same vain as Chelsea. If they’re teaching anybody a lesson it’s Man City.

Is he trying to suggest that Kenwright puts Everton into millions of pounds of debt buying players we can’t afford, perhaps to gamble on a CL spot? What happens if we don’t make it? Leeds?

John Pickles
10 Posted 16/02/2009 at 10:31:52

If having more money would have meant signing Heskey then I?m glad we?re skint. O?Neill is welcome to the ?5 goals a season? wonder, Saha will score more than that in the 10% of the season he?s fit for. It?s a pity he wasn?t playing instead of Carew yesterday, then they wouldn?t have had any shots on target (as opposed to 1).

Richard Harris
11 Posted 16/02/2009 at 10:38:49

"Lerner’s Villa teach Everton vital lesson"....
....that’s how to spend more money on players and still be outplayed !! Oh yes, and Villa lost as well - great lesson there :0) Villa are this seasons flash in the pan. I’ve been a critic of Moyes when he deserved it and I’m thrilled that we’re now playing better football but even when things were bad with the negative tactics and aimless hoofball, I never once wished that we’d got Martin O’Neill as a manager. Deluded and whingeing, in my opinion :0)

Bernie Ashe
12 Posted 16/02/2009 at 12:54:37

It must have been written by a villain.
And no, I couldn’t see the point of it either.
Just another example of praising Moyes but dissing the club as small, irrelevent and skint.
Don’t believe the hype!!
Say what you see.... and I see glory, and it wont be for Villa.

Richard Lum
13 Posted 16/02/2009 at 14:46:37

I have a feeling Moyes will not know how to spent even given the money. So far most of his record signings didnt work out.