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Strikers On The Right Wing
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Is anyone with better tactical knowledge able to provide insights into Moyes's habit of playing our strikers on the right wing? McFadden, AJ and now Anichibe.
Or is it his way of telling them you're on your way out - McFadden, AJ and maybe Anichibe?
Jason Heng, Posted 16/02/2009 at 11:44:39
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So, to answer your question. By playing Anichebe wide right (as he is right footed) he could run off Cahill/Fellaini who were the target men and use his pace.
We won 3-1 !
There’s a lot of reasons that a manager plays a player in a certain position...
- We have no real options on the right when our squad is as depleted as it is.
- With Cahill up top, Moyes recognises the need to support him.
- Johnson provides the benefit of running a full back ragged and appearing in the box from out of nowhere.
- Anichebe provides the option of battering the ball up to him (like we used to do with Kilbane).
With Anichebe, I suspect much of it is to do with the fact that Moyes doesn’t necessarily trust him to do the business in and around the 18 yard box, but his presence is still a useful asset, especially with such a decimated squad.
A bit of a ramble, but you get the point - it is a multitude of reasons that has led him to being deployed there!!!
- We have no real options on the right when our squad is as depleted as it is.
- With Cahill up top, Moyes recognises the need to support him.
- Johnson provides the benefit of running a full back ragged and appearing in the box from out of nowhere.
- Anichebe provides the option of battering the ball up to him (like we used to do with Kilbane).
With Anichebe, I suspect much of it is to do with the fact that Moyes doesn’t necessarily trust him to do the business in and around the 18 yard box, but his presence is still a useful asset, especially with such a decimated squad.
A bit of a ramble, but you get the point - it is a multitude of reasons that has led him to being deployed there!!!
It also allows a big man ( Anichebe) to get isolated against a smaller full back, giving us an outlet, though to be fair yesterday it might just have been a lack of options with Cahill unable to play out there, and Neville pushing out to the right when neccessary (which he did with intelligence).
Victor’s best position is one the right, everytime he’s played there he’s been effective and given a good account of himself. Stoke, Liverpool, West Ham and now Villa spring to mind.
Despite being quite quick (when he gets moving) he hasn’t got intelligent movement, he doesn’t give the midfielders an outlet as a striker. He’s very static in that position.
As a right wing forward he can play with his back to goal and he can turn and run at people, when he does get moving his pace and power can hurt teams as we saw yesterday.
Dirk Kuyt plays a similar role for Liverpool, he interchanges between right and central positions. He can unsettle defenders with his height and strength and is intelligent with his back to goal.
If Victor has a future at this club then it’s as a wing forward, not as an out and out striker. He did very well there and has done all season to be honest, not that people will give him credit for it. He’s Victor after all.
Despite being quite quick (when he gets moving) he hasn’t got intelligent movement, he doesn’t give the midfielders an outlet as a striker. He’s very static in that position.
As a right wing forward he can play with his back to goal and he can turn and run at people, when he does get moving his pace and power can hurt teams as we saw yesterday.
Dirk Kuyt plays a similar role for Liverpool, he interchanges between right and central positions. He can unsettle defenders with his height and strength and is intelligent with his back to goal.
If Victor has a future at this club then it’s as a wing forward, not as an out and out striker. He did very well there and has done all season to be honest, not that people will give him credit for it. He’s Victor after all.
Simply... When we attack we become a 4-4-2 with Pip moving right.
As we defend then we become a 4-5-1 with Pip moving more central; simple tactics.
As we defend then we become a 4-5-1 with Pip moving more central; simple tactics.
Connor Rohrer is correct, Vic’s best position is on the right. He played really well for Nigeria in the Olympics on the right. I think everyone should get off his back, he’s done a good job for us and if he doesn’t make it a team like Hull will have to pay quite a few bob to have him. He’s only young and looks as if he’s not the most confident of kids, he’ll improve.
Connor, while I don?t think you?re good enough for Match of the Day, your analysis is certainly more spot on than the shite ITV are offering.
Actually Moyes played Rooney there a few times also.
It's because these players are shite and didn't score enough for us.
All the games Anichebe has started have been on the right, he even swapped with Arteta at West Ham and played half an hour on the left. I seriously wonder if the people who come on here with ridiculous goal scoring stats actually watch Everton. He is far and away Everton's best option on the right.
Dave Wilson, you must be joking if you think Anichebe is our best option on the right hand side. I?d put Gosling, Van der Meyde & Osman all ahead of him in that order, & failing that I?d prefer Moyes bloods one of the kids rather than playing Anichebe, who looks he can't be arsed most of the time.
Anybody who’s played sunday league and short on numbers will play their shittest player out wide up front, where they will do the least damage.
Seriously, I see Moyes playing Anichebe there as a wide target man and nuisance to the opposing team. He has shit touch and shitter shot. Zero tactical awareness and always caught offside when playing central (he won’t run so how can he stay onside?).
The fact that he blows hot and cold at will is evident of the shittest attitude. If you need a manager to kick you up the arse before every game then he really needs to grow up, as a employee, before being known as a footballer for Everton. The penalty he earned was a dive.
Seriously, I see Moyes playing Anichebe there as a wide target man and nuisance to the opposing team. He has shit touch and shitter shot. Zero tactical awareness and always caught offside when playing central (he won’t run so how can he stay onside?).
The fact that he blows hot and cold at will is evident of the shittest attitude. If you need a manager to kick you up the arse before every game then he really needs to grow up, as a employee, before being known as a footballer for Everton. The penalty he earned was a dive.
Gary Lawler; The abilities to go past a man and stop a man going passed you are almost prerequisite for a wide player. Anichebe does this on a regular basis, he went past more men on one run on Sunday than Gosling (not good enough) VDM (past it before he was 25) and Osman (doesn't have the power to get away from his man) have between them all season.
He?s played there 5 times this season and if you bother to watch Everton games you?ll already know he?s had a hand in more goals than those three put together. I?m guessing this wasn't in the Sun 3 and therefore you wont know about it ? but I?ve seen it happen.
Jason Lamb; try watching the game lad, unlike you, the knowledgeable match goers aren't blinded by hate and GP rose as one to give VA a standing ovation on Sunday.
Even when the injury list clears up, VA will still be part of Moysee?s plan, get used to it, because he?s staying and the reason he?s staying is Moyes rates him. There aren't many managers in world football who wouldn't want to try and develop a 20-year-old who already has vast international and European experience... perhaps they should take delivery of the Sun... they?d be as knowledgeable as you guys then.
I don?t hate him, I don?t even know him personally. I just think he?s shit.
Moyes had rated James McFadden too. But then, McFadden never had an attitude problem.
Moyes had rated James McFadden too. But then, McFadden never had an attitude problem.
McFadden played out wide because (whether he likes it or not) he’s a winger, not a striker! In fact, I think McFadden was hard done by during his time with us: he never got enough of a chance to play wide left, which is his best position.
Similarly to Jimmy Mac, Victor is an enigma. I’ve got to go with the majority view on here - I don’t think he’ll ever make it with us, at least not as a regular first-teamer. And Dave: whilst Victor does have the ability to go past people his end product is (more often than not) loss of possession, a tame strike on goal or a dive. The other challengers for right wing (AVDM, Osman, Gosling) all have different qualities, so it’s difficult to compare, but I’d expect all three to perform better over 90 minutes, taking into account every department of a wide man’s game than Victor.
Ultimately if you could combine the pace and power of Victor with the skills of Gosling, the crossing ability of AVDM and the technique, work-rate and passing of Osman you’d have the perfect right midfielder!
Similarly to Jimmy Mac, Victor is an enigma. I’ve got to go with the majority view on here - I don’t think he’ll ever make it with us, at least not as a regular first-teamer. And Dave: whilst Victor does have the ability to go past people his end product is (more often than not) loss of possession, a tame strike on goal or a dive. The other challengers for right wing (AVDM, Osman, Gosling) all have different qualities, so it’s difficult to compare, but I’d expect all three to perform better over 90 minutes, taking into account every department of a wide man’s game than Victor.
Ultimately if you could combine the pace and power of Victor with the skills of Gosling, the crossing ability of AVDM and the technique, work-rate and passing of Osman you’d have the perfect right midfielder!
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