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Did anyone hear or does anyone know if any action was taken againt the Kopites for throwing things at the players and on to the pitch at the Goodison FA Cup Replay?
I cant stand the way they can do no wrong in the eyes of our media. It was blatently on TV for everyone to see yet we hear nothing of it the next day.
I remember Martin Samuel writing after one of the first Anfield games condemning us for singing about Gerard going down. Yet they seem to forget the horrible shit that comes out of their mouths (i.e. Carsley and Lescott).
Maybe the noise get muffled from the minging scarves, caps and badges they have? I know its sticks and stones but it really annoys me.
Jonathan Field, Posted 18/02/2009 at 10:17:22
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I heard we had to return all coins found on the pitchside to their rightful owners.
And wash the socks.
The socks were collected and dumped on the contaminated land that BK proposes to build our new superstadium on.
Does everyone remember the first derby match at Anfield that Jon Barnes played in? He came down to the Anfield Road end to take a corner and he was showered with bananas, although very funny at the time, I think I was ten, but if the "sock" fits, therefore I don't think we can cast a stone, or banana or sock for that matter
How was John Barnes being showered by bananas funny? This was blatantly racist!
Peter
What was funny about that?
How racist are you?
Pricks like you sicken me. In what world was that funny you unthinking idiot?
Peter above... I can actually see the sock throwing as an (albeit childish) attempt at humour. I cannot, however, see throwing bananas at a black player as anything but disgusting, mindless racism. I was never a fan of Mr Barnes as a player; I thought he was overrated and lived off the back of that run against Brazil, but I would never condone the sort of treatment he received at the hands of the mindless morons with their monkey noises, etc.
Please don’t show your ignorance and intolerance on this site again. It is for more intelligent people than you, and believe me, if I heard the likes of you spouting your racist crap at Goodison, I would take you to a copper or steward myself, personally.
Rant over......sorry for that people, but I had to get it off my chest.
Please don’t show your ignorance and intolerance on this site again. It is for more intelligent people than you, and believe me, if I heard the likes of you spouting your racist crap at Goodison, I would take you to a copper or steward myself, personally.
Rant over......sorry for that people, but I had to get it off my chest.
On my numerous re-viewings of the Gosling goal, after the euphoria, it is clear to see a lighter thrown at our bundle of players celebrating. Also one of our stewards was taken for medical treatment after being struck with a coin. He was bleeding. They sicken me and the FA should use the CCTV to weed out the little pricks and ban them.
Think it helps if you read Peter’s post. In fairness to Peter Bradshaw he does point out that he was aged 10 at the time. I’m sure he wouldn’t find it funny now and that he isn’t a racist.
I am a long time reader but I have finally been forced to post as I don’t like this jumping to call someone a racist.
I agree Damien Halligan, please allow Peter Bradshaw to explain his comments, you may have got the wrong end of the stick guys (well either you guys have or Damien Halligan and I have!).
Peter said "although very funny at the time" not "although very funny" and quantified this by following on to explain "I think I was ten" which lets us know that he MAY have been too young to understand the implications of what this meant. (in the same way we never understood why our parents had a problem with us coming home late until we grew up and started reading the news, so could then see what can happen out in the big bad world)
Infact if anything - I feel - his post is against racisim by saying "therefore I don’t think we can cast a stone, or banana or sock for that matter" he is saying that we can’t complain about RS fans doing something as trivial as throwing socks when our fans did something that he feels was far more sinister and disgusting - now he is no longer ten and knows better - like throwing bananas.
I agree Damien Halligan, please allow Peter Bradshaw to explain his comments, you may have got the wrong end of the stick guys (well either you guys have or Damien Halligan and I have!).
Peter said "although very funny at the time" not "although very funny" and quantified this by following on to explain "I think I was ten" which lets us know that he MAY have been too young to understand the implications of what this meant. (in the same way we never understood why our parents had a problem with us coming home late until we grew up and started reading the news, so could then see what can happen out in the big bad world)
Infact if anything - I feel - his post is against racisim by saying "therefore I don’t think we can cast a stone, or banana or sock for that matter" he is saying that we can’t complain about RS fans doing something as trivial as throwing socks when our fans did something that he feels was far more sinister and disgusting - now he is no longer ten and knows better - like throwing bananas.
I'm not trying to defend racism because it is disgusting and a plague to the game of football. Although in Peter's defence, if I was 10, I?d find throwing bananas at a player funny without actually knowing the significance. The meaning of the bannana incident was wrong, but at 10 you dont realise.
I'm not defending racism by any stretch of the imagination but like I say, at 10 you don't understand the meaning of things like you do when your a bit older.
I'm not defending racism by any stretch of the imagination but like I say, at 10 you don't understand the meaning of things like you do when your a bit older.
Just because he was ten doesn?t make it ok to find something blatantly and sickeningly racist funny. I was about the same age and found it abhorrent. Maybe Peter should explain his comments in case some of us have misunderstood what he was saying, but being a kid is no excuse. I knew for as long as I can remember that racism was wrong. I remember the incident only too well, and it made me feel ashamed to be a Blue at the time.
On re-reading Peter?s post, in fairness it seems he is highlighting what he sees as the hypocrisy of some Blues, but saying the Barnes incident was "funny at the time" is still a highly dubious thing to say.
Tom Edwards - are you that thick? He clearly isn?t being racist... at the age of 10 I would?ve found any fruit being thrown at a Kopite funny, no matter if they?re black or white!!! It's there for all to see that he realised what it meant later in life.
Keep your IgnoRANTs on your chest.
Keep your IgnoRANTs on your chest.
As Tommy above. I am a long time reader, first time poster. I agree and disagree with some of the comments above but that is a different matter.
This post was opened to discuss the animal behaviour of our Scandanavian cousins in a day and age when this sort of thing was meant to be flushed from the game. Back in the 80s this kind of thing was common place (not justifying it), but the scum get away with "cos it?s funny".
How many times have these deadbeats gotten away with this kind of thing by claiming comedy value and when it gets out of hand they get by on blaming the authorities? I can think of multiple occasions.
Let's get this thread back on subject please blues.
Peter said it was funny at the time. Yes he was 10 but that’s still old enough to know right from wrong,
I don’t believe in this ’nanny state’ crap....a child can only take responsibility for his actions when 16.
Peter was obviously one of those grinning kids in the play ground that would laugh along at anything without pausing to decide whether it IS funny or not.
So John Barnes gets pelted with bananas (how fucking humiliating) for the colour of his skin and it’s deemed funny.
At what age can we expect kids to know right from wrong? If a 10 year old thew stones at someone, would he think that’s funny?
This has obviously raised a moral question of knowing the difference between right and wrong and seeing a grown man being humiliated (regardless of whether the 10 year old recognised it was ’racist’ action or not) is still wrong.
SIMPLE.
Duncan McDine, I think you’re pretty thick
I don’t believe in this ’nanny state’ crap....a child can only take responsibility for his actions when 16.
Peter was obviously one of those grinning kids in the play ground that would laugh along at anything without pausing to decide whether it IS funny or not.
So John Barnes gets pelted with bananas (how fucking humiliating) for the colour of his skin and it’s deemed funny.
At what age can we expect kids to know right from wrong? If a 10 year old thew stones at someone, would he think that’s funny?
This has obviously raised a moral question of knowing the difference between right and wrong and seeing a grown man being humiliated (regardless of whether the 10 year old recognised it was ’racist’ action or not) is still wrong.
SIMPLE.
Duncan McDine, I think you’re pretty thick
Nathan O'Hagan ? yes but this does depend on your exposure to such things.
At 10 years old, I thought all football match attendees were thugs who would eventually all end up in jail as they went around throwing darts at one another (one of my mums ingenious fantasy-world comments).
At 10 years old, I thought I would never drink alcohol as it was the drink of the devil (another one of my mums ingenious fantasy-world gems); at 18 in fact I thought I would never drink alcohol (but 6 months later and praise be given to the College union! :) )
At 10 years old, I thought all women were evil, hurtful, creatures (but 23 years later I don?t feel like that, just ask my wife... but don?t ask my first to tenth wives! ;) )
At 10 years old, I thought all football match attendees were thugs who would eventually all end up in jail as they went around throwing darts at one another (one of my mums ingenious fantasy-world comments).
At 10 years old, I thought I would never drink alcohol as it was the drink of the devil (another one of my mums ingenious fantasy-world gems); at 18 in fact I thought I would never drink alcohol (but 6 months later and praise be given to the College union! :) )
At 10 years old, I thought all women were evil, hurtful, creatures (but 23 years later I don?t feel like that, just ask my wife... but don?t ask my first to tenth wives! ;) )
Kase Chow - Are you fat as well??
Get a life mate, Peter is clearly not being racist.
Get a life mate, Peter is clearly not being racist.
Kase Chow - we’ll just have to agree to disagree about what Peter means. I’ve re-read it 3 or 4 times and can’t see it any other way.... he thought it was funny as a naive 10 year old, and now realises that it was racist abuse.
The fact you think I’m thick is below the belt though... you’ve clearly picked up on the Celtic origins of my sir name and are calling all Irish people thick.
Shameless racism! ;-)
The fact you think I’m thick is below the belt though... you’ve clearly picked up on the Celtic origins of my sir name and are calling all Irish people thick.
Shameless racism! ;-)
Bloody hell, there are some sad little people walking this earth. Racist my arse.
Duncan
No I am not thick! Perhaps you are not black, unlike my brother-in-law, who many times, including times when I have been with him, had to listen to ignorant morons like you calling him a..........well, you will know the rest, because you admit to finding it funny. I didn’t think abusing anyone for the colour of their skin was funny when I was ten. I found it repugnant then and still do. You are clearly and ignorant racist scumbag and I could rant at knobheads like you all day.
I am not a fan of Kopites but I would give them stick for being Shite fans, not for their colour. Crawl back under your slimy rock you scumbag.
No I am not thick! Perhaps you are not black, unlike my brother-in-law, who many times, including times when I have been with him, had to listen to ignorant morons like you calling him a..........well, you will know the rest, because you admit to finding it funny. I didn’t think abusing anyone for the colour of their skin was funny when I was ten. I found it repugnant then and still do. You are clearly and ignorant racist scumbag and I could rant at knobheads like you all day.
I am not a fan of Kopites but I would give them stick for being Shite fans, not for their colour. Crawl back under your slimy rock you scumbag.
As usual the local and national media laughed off these throwing incidents as a jolly piss-take, there was very little attention drawn to the fact that the gobshites were throwing coins and lighters at our players amongst the socks and despite the despicable and abhorrent incidents the supporters of LFC have been involved in, they are still portrayed as fine upstanding lovers of the game.
We are all aware of the detritus thrown down with impunity from the upper stand of the Anfield Road stand during Derby games and remember the MUFC fan in the late 70s being led from Anfield with a massive dart stuck in his nose.
Even the highlights from the recent FA cup triumph were falsely edited, as after we scored and the ground was bouncing, ITV cut to a shot of the gobshites and, even though every Blue in the ground was singing, the twats suddenly cut the sound, we should be used to this bias by now but it does drive you fuckin? nuts.
Tom Edwards that is completely out of order; never in either post does Duncan say anything racist. Nor does he state that he found the banana throwing incident funny nor does he say he would find anything racist funny.
I hate people like you who just jump on the ?racist? bandwagon. Anything racist is out of order but to call someone for being racist when there is no evidence to suggest that they are is just as bad ? and if nothing else just exacerbates the problem. Indeed, the initial post was merely someone looking back and reflecting how naive they were 22 years ago when they were 10. And maybe even a little embarassed themselves at their actions from that time.
Mark Stone, In a fucken nutshell mate, the world is a very different place ? in fact Goodison Park is a very different place ? than it was 20 years ago.
Kase Chow,
there are few more unpleasant crimes than racism, false accusations of racism is one of them. To accuse a 10 year old of racism whilst ignoring the actions of the fucken idiotic adults who were setting him this example is ridiculous.
You don't know Peter ? who do you think your are to level this at him? He?ll be 20 years older and live in a far more enlightened society now, your post is considerably more offensive than his.
Kase Chow,
there are few more unpleasant crimes than racism, false accusations of racism is one of them. To accuse a 10 year old of racism whilst ignoring the actions of the fucken idiotic adults who were setting him this example is ridiculous.
You don't know Peter ? who do you think your are to level this at him? He?ll be 20 years older and live in a far more enlightened society now, your post is considerably more offensive than his.
Holy Moly, will all you pc brigade and their lovers get off your soapboxes for a minute and actually re-read what he wrote. I was at the game and I was just a nipper and had no idea of the correlation of the bananas and John Barnes.
All of you think back to when you were 10 (around the same time) and if you weren?t a victim of racism I can guarantee that a very high percentage of you wouldn?t know about racists and how they indicate their ignorance.
Back on topic, this is just another notch on the post with incidents like this, the mobile throwing at Rooney, the shit throwing. The list goes on but nothing gets done about it. Anyone heard if someone was done for hitting the steward? No and I doubt you ever will...
All of you think back to when you were 10 (around the same time) and if you weren?t a victim of racism I can guarantee that a very high percentage of you wouldn?t know about racists and how they indicate their ignorance.
Back on topic, this is just another notch on the post with incidents like this, the mobile throwing at Rooney, the shit throwing. The list goes on but nothing gets done about it. Anyone heard if someone was done for hitting the steward? No and I doubt you ever will...
Sometimes, your upbringing determines how quicly you think for youself in knowing right from wrong.
When I was 10, growing up on Granby St, I knew there were people called Oranges who were evil and deserved to have ripe tomatos thrown at them when they paraded down Princes Avenue.
Some of the best chuckers were nuns and kids from the local Protestant school! I was never, however, inculcated with a fear of or lack of respect for people whose skin wasn?t the same colour as mine.
Apropos the Clattenburg discussion, is it racist to call Clive Thomas a cheating Welsh twat? How about all the sheep jokes?
When I was 10, growing up on Granby St, I knew there were people called Oranges who were evil and deserved to have ripe tomatos thrown at them when they paraded down Princes Avenue.
Some of the best chuckers were nuns and kids from the local Protestant school! I was never, however, inculcated with a fear of or lack of respect for people whose skin wasn?t the same colour as mine.
Apropos the Clattenburg discussion, is it racist to call Clive Thomas a cheating Welsh twat? How about all the sheep jokes?
I also noticed not much was said or done about the vile chants Villa were singing on Sunday about Lescott.
Editors of Toffeeweb, can you get rid of every single post relating to this racist argument please, these threads and this site is supposed to be about Everton FC!! NOT racism.... I?m surprised and shocked you?ve let all these comments on!
Dave Wilson
You?re right Dave, it?s a very different world these days. I remember growing up in the fifties and watching The Black And White Minstrels at my Aunties because we didn?t have a TV of our own. We didn?t know it was "racist" to enjoy it, although these days, apparently, it was. It was just regarded as entertainment in those days.
You?re right Dave, it?s a very different world these days. I remember growing up in the fifties and watching The Black And White Minstrels at my Aunties because we didn?t have a TV of our own. We didn?t know it was "racist" to enjoy it, although these days, apparently, it was. It was just regarded as entertainment in those days.
As a 10-year-old at the time you could argue, as some people are trying to on here, that my background was one with a racist thread running through it but nothing could be further from the truth. I can?t see a 10 year old Peter being racist either. He was 10 for heavens sake.
For all the over the top posts, Ben Jones really does come out on top. Probably because he’s sat on the moral high horse....
Okay,
Peter?s not here to defend himself and having reread his post in light of the comments of others, I agree & accept there?s room that I?ve made an assumption i.e. that he found the racism of the incident funny rather than the chucking stuff at a player of the Shite (which whilst not to be condoned, is not racist).
Hence, rather than say I?m right until proven wrong I?ll suggest I was wrong to think Peter was at one time racist unless of course he confirms the situation.
My apologies for over reacting.
Peter?s not here to defend himself and having reread his post in light of the comments of others, I agree & accept there?s room that I?ve made an assumption i.e. that he found the racism of the incident funny rather than the chucking stuff at a player of the Shite (which whilst not to be condoned, is not racist).
Hence, rather than say I?m right until proven wrong I?ll suggest I was wrong to think Peter was at one time racist unless of course he confirms the situation.
My apologies for over reacting.
Fucking PC do-gooders wreck my head!!
Does anyone remember the leek or the binbag getting thrown at Big Nev? That was funny, for a kopite anyway! I think you all need to calm your skin ? the lad was 10 years old ffs!! Let's put it to bed now and chat about the BLUES! COYB
There is no place for racist jibes in football or life. There is also no place for holier than thou, soap box ranters who are just champing at the bit to point the accusing finger so they can feel like a better person.
IMO some have read far too much into what Peter said. He was 10 years old ffs. Maybe 10-year-olds know better these days, but back in the 80s many adults didn?t know any better. That incident is still an embarrassment to EFC, but we must move on.
Never have I seen such crap in all my time visiting this site. Please close this thread to avoid further embarrassment to us all.
IMO some have read far too much into what Peter said. He was 10 years old ffs. Maybe 10-year-olds know better these days, but back in the 80s many adults didn?t know any better. That incident is still an embarrassment to EFC, but we must move on.
Never have I seen such crap in all my time visiting this site. Please close this thread to avoid further embarrassment to us all.
Tom Edwards - Please tell me what comment of mine is racist... thanks.
Kase Chow has managed to realise he over reacted, and so should you. Unfortunately people who?ve witnessed racist abuse first hand can often block out what?s being said and go straight in for the kill, labelling others as racist scum. Thanks again.
On a personal note, I?ve seen all forms of racism at Everton games (home and away) decrease to almost zilch over the last few years. It should never have been there in the first place, but I?m glad its not tolerated nowadays.
As for Tom Edwards, he?s still looking for his scapegoat. Keep looking, soft arse, you won?t find him here.
Kase Chow has managed to realise he over reacted, and so should you. Unfortunately people who?ve witnessed racist abuse first hand can often block out what?s being said and go straight in for the kill, labelling others as racist scum. Thanks again.
On a personal note, I?ve seen all forms of racism at Everton games (home and away) decrease to almost zilch over the last few years. It should never have been there in the first place, but I?m glad its not tolerated nowadays.
As for Tom Edwards, he?s still looking for his scapegoat. Keep looking, soft arse, you won?t find him here.
Re - the bannana throwing at John Barnes. In the early nineties my father was speaking to a former LFC manager who shall remain nameless, who proceeded to mention the very day after they signed JB that they had to remove racist graffitti from the walls of Melwood before the player & press alike found out. This was done by some of their own fans who were later arrested and banned from Anfield, now if it had been done by one of ours would the same course of action been taken. By the way, all people chanting racist remarks should be thrown out and banned for life.
A very emotional and heated debate!
If it helps at all, the fact that Peter seems not to have understood the connection between John Barnes and bananas makes it extremely unlikely that at 10 years of age he was a racist.
If he HAD understood the connection at ten years old then it would be fair to assume he was at least aware of racism and that laughing at the incident would not have been acceptable.
It is not age here that counts. It is the background and the environment a child is raised in. A 10-year-old CAN be racist if it is taught to be acceptable and ?right? and becomes a formative and ingrained aspect of the personality. It is not inevitable, but it makes it more likely. That is how racism is kept alive.
Racism is evil and abhorrent, but as somebody alluded to above, it is at least just as abhorrent to scream the allegation at the drop of a hat. This just desensitizes us to the issue rather than raising awareness.
I was about 14 when Kopites used to run on to the pitch and give Gordon West a handbag. I now know what that was about but I had no idea then!
Evertonians used to give Ian St John bananas; not because he was black but because it was perceived he looked like a monkey! (which he did)
I understood the second.... but not the first!
If it helps at all, the fact that Peter seems not to have understood the connection between John Barnes and bananas makes it extremely unlikely that at 10 years of age he was a racist.
If he HAD understood the connection at ten years old then it would be fair to assume he was at least aware of racism and that laughing at the incident would not have been acceptable.
It is not age here that counts. It is the background and the environment a child is raised in. A 10-year-old CAN be racist if it is taught to be acceptable and ?right? and becomes a formative and ingrained aspect of the personality. It is not inevitable, but it makes it more likely. That is how racism is kept alive.
Racism is evil and abhorrent, but as somebody alluded to above, it is at least just as abhorrent to scream the allegation at the drop of a hat. This just desensitizes us to the issue rather than raising awareness.
I was about 14 when Kopites used to run on to the pitch and give Gordon West a handbag. I now know what that was about but I had no idea then!
Evertonians used to give Ian St John bananas; not because he was black but because it was perceived he looked like a monkey! (which he did)
I understood the second.... but not the first!
I can?t believe I am reading some of this crap. I used to laugh at Bless this House so I guess I must be a racist in some of your eyes. Things change, laws change, rules change and attitudes change.
Was this not about the shite throwing things on to our pitch or what.
We won they lost and they proved how shite their fans are we all saw it, it was on TV.
It is ironic that the Muppets chose to take the piss out of scousers and they probably had a few fans from Kirkby in the crowd as well along with the large Scandinavian contingent.
I was at the match and in the Kop during the match when Barnes played, but that?s all I am prepared to say in case you brand me.
Some of you need to grow up and get back to the original subject posted by Jonathan Field.
Was this not about the shite throwing things on to our pitch or what.
We won they lost and they proved how shite their fans are we all saw it, it was on TV.
It is ironic that the Muppets chose to take the piss out of scousers and they probably had a few fans from Kirkby in the crowd as well along with the large Scandinavian contingent.
I was at the match and in the Kop during the match when Barnes played, but that?s all I am prepared to say in case you brand me.
Some of you need to grow up and get back to the original subject posted by Jonathan Field.
Kase Chow - take the brush from up your arse - even your apology was pompous.
Just look at what your reaction started ? happy to see witch hunts are you so long as it?s against someone (we can assume) is Caucasian?
Just look at what your reaction started ? happy to see witch hunts are you so long as it?s against someone (we can assume) is Caucasian?
Incidentally, those old enough to remember Barnes signing for Liverpool may also remember the inordinate length of time he took to make up his mind to put pen to paper. As he said himself much later, he’d had so much racist abuse from RS fans when playing at Anfield that he wasn’t sure if he even wanted to go there.
Can we put this one to bed now?
Can we put this one to bed now?
Careful Steve Syder, Kase might brand you because you implied he/she had something stuck up his/her arse! Although I do tend to agree with you on that one.
At ten I did not have the same mentality that I do now in my mid-fifties. In the seventies, I occasionally drove a car while probably over the legal limit ? something that I am now ashamed of and would never do now. The difference is that society and I have evolved. I abhor racism but I dislike those PC?ers who see evidence of it in every action or word almost as much as much as the racists themselves.
Peter?s post did not offend me at all ? it showed an intelligence that comes with maturity.
Peter?s post did not offend me at all ? it showed an intelligence that comes with maturity.
What a load of nonsense. I can?t believe some of the shite I have just read.
I think that whoever started this post needs to get a life and stop worrying. They were SOCKS for Christ sake. Hardly offensive and actually quite funny when you knew the reasoning behind it.
Yes the Sky 4 are immune to criticism on eveything it seems, but why bother worrying. Rise above it. We are Everton, do we really care about some SOCKS being thrown on to the pitch?
In the past I remember Tony ?Donkey? Adams being showered with carrots whilst playing fior Arsenal and Gazza being showered in Mars Bars on his return to Newcastle. And of course, Mark Walters?s debut for Rangers away to Hearts saw a twat run on the pitch in a full gorilla outfit.
Times have thankfully changed, and although there is still much to be done, SOCKS ? those soft fluffy things that keep your toes warm ? are not even worth worrying about.
I think that whoever started this post needs to get a life and stop worrying. They were SOCKS for Christ sake. Hardly offensive and actually quite funny when you knew the reasoning behind it.
Yes the Sky 4 are immune to criticism on eveything it seems, but why bother worrying. Rise above it. We are Everton, do we really care about some SOCKS being thrown on to the pitch?
In the past I remember Tony ?Donkey? Adams being showered with carrots whilst playing fior Arsenal and Gazza being showered in Mars Bars on his return to Newcastle. And of course, Mark Walters?s debut for Rangers away to Hearts saw a twat run on the pitch in a full gorilla outfit.
Times have thankfully changed, and although there is still much to be done, SOCKS ? those soft fluffy things that keep your toes warm ? are not even worth worrying about.
I imagine all the people who are screaming "RASCIST" at Peter are quite obviously New Labour through and through...
Karl Masters, it wasn't just socks, you bellend, it was coins and lighters and other shit thrown with malicious intent. And even if it was just socks, where?s the humour in that? Fuck off back to watching tennis, you?ve totally missed the point, the gobshites can do no wrong in the eyes of the media and it drives me for one fuckin? mad.
Apparently the redshite were sharing a little in joke by hurling socks etc onto the pitch. They reckon stealing from clothes lines is rife in Kirkby and is the normal type of behaviour of the scum who live there and that Everton by moving there are going to fit right in. Not only is it totally unfunny, coming from Kirkby myself I believe it might also be racist. What do you reckon Kase, have I got a case?
Bloody Hell, where did that come from? I cannot believe some of the comments, and I have never been called racist before, but we live and learn.
Just to move on from that, at 10 years old approx I also used to think farts where funny too, but I am not against the greens in this world. Just a thought and I hope I don't offend anyone again, I am not rascist, I am not from a sheltered background, I am a General Manager for a multi-national company, so quite well educated.
What I try and do with everyone's comments is first read them, then put them into perspective. The point that I was making is that throwing things on the pitch started along time before the recent derby matches, remember the cushion throwing? And then the John Barnes incident, meaning that we as Evertonians are not completely innocent ourselves.
To be perfectly honest this has been blown totally out of proportion. And now I am going to get my coat.
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