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Mark Clattenburg has won his appeal against being sacked by the PGMO. He will be able to ref in the PL from April 6th having served an eight month suspension for "issues relating to his private business affairs". Will any PL manager ? El Gordo excepted perhaps ? want him to referee their games again?
The football world would be amazed to see him sent to Goodison, but we have away games against Villa, Chelsea, Sunderland and Fulham to the end of this season in which he could officiate. On the bright side, he owes us several penalties and red cards ? and these things are supposed to even themselves out!
Keith Glazzard, Posted 18/02/2009 at 17:33:54
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A BLOODY DISGRACE. Looks like he?s been handing out backhanders instead of taking them. If he never takes charge of one of our games again, it would be too soon...
The Villa game away ? you watch ? he?ll get it. Which actually wouldn?t be horrible ? he knows we are on to him... would he dare shaft us like he did in the Derby?????
Guys, this is a win-win.
Admittedly, Clattenburg has an ego the size of the Northeast, but the next time he steps over the white line, he?ll be doing it in the knowledge that he?s coming off an EIGHT-month suspension. If and when one of the teams he?s overseeing is Everton, bear in mind the media (bless ?em) will be gathered watching like a pack of slavering whorehounds. Every decision he makes will be dissected like a GCSE Biology frog.
Well shucks. Couldn?t happen to a nicer guy. My gums bleed for him. Welcome back to the Premier League, Mr Clattenburg.
Admittedly, Clattenburg has an ego the size of the Northeast, but the next time he steps over the white line, he?ll be doing it in the knowledge that he?s coming off an EIGHT-month suspension. If and when one of the teams he?s overseeing is Everton, bear in mind the media (bless ?em) will be gathered watching like a pack of slavering whorehounds. Every decision he makes will be dissected like a GCSE Biology frog.
Well shucks. Couldn?t happen to a nicer guy. My gums bleed for him. Welcome back to the Premier League, Mr Clattenburg.
Let's hope if we get there, he does not get the cup final!!!!!!!!
I thought Clattenburg was a good referee until his derby when he showed his weakness for Sky 4 glory (I think) ? or just had an awful match. I don?t know which and you don?t either. A truly shameful moment when he let Gerrard change Hibbert?s yellow card to red
Weakness of this sort is a failure I?ve seen in many of my favourite people (?I met Prince Charles?) ? ugly but not unforgivable, unless you want to live a perfect life on your tod. (Plus no forgiveness for you when you go wrong!) And he got into debt which broke the FA rules. Well, I?ve known people I love do that as well (though the FA didn?t care about them).
If Clattenburg is allowed back within the rules and does a good job ? as he can ? then good luck to him. Why not welcome him back to Goodison? ? come on guys, let?s grow up and stop being miserable hard-done-by whingers.
We have done ourselves no good over the last ten years with our whining about referees, which we are sadly famous for. They don?t hate Everton, they just like to rub up against money and glory and ? like any of us getting on nicely with top managers at work ? it does their careers no harm
But we?ve been guilty as well ? the most violent footballer I?ve ever seen (over a prolonged period) played for us in recent years and is still a cult hero with many supporters although he let us down, disgraced us so often, and typified an era of failure.
Sometimes I think a generation of our fans wallows in failure and being hard done by ? and getting sent off.
But if so, your time has passed. No player disgraces us now, let other clubs worry about that. We are respected again and don?t need to whinge at referees, or worry about judges. We are established again in ?the emerging top six? , as The Guardian put it on Monday.
We have a sane balanced chairman, manager (ok he gets in occasional hot water officially, but it?s lukewarm in practice due to his standing) , good captain ? what Pip did with Fellaini in the derby is a standout for the season, taking over from the ref and telling him to get his act together . See that in any other club? Certainly not locally ? and not much anywhere.
Respect is best at Everton now. The best sort of players, manager, captain, and good football as well. So let?s be the best fans ? NSNO in every way.
Weakness of this sort is a failure I?ve seen in many of my favourite people (?I met Prince Charles?) ? ugly but not unforgivable, unless you want to live a perfect life on your tod. (Plus no forgiveness for you when you go wrong!) And he got into debt which broke the FA rules. Well, I?ve known people I love do that as well (though the FA didn?t care about them).
If Clattenburg is allowed back within the rules and does a good job ? as he can ? then good luck to him. Why not welcome him back to Goodison? ? come on guys, let?s grow up and stop being miserable hard-done-by whingers.
We have done ourselves no good over the last ten years with our whining about referees, which we are sadly famous for. They don?t hate Everton, they just like to rub up against money and glory and ? like any of us getting on nicely with top managers at work ? it does their careers no harm
But we?ve been guilty as well ? the most violent footballer I?ve ever seen (over a prolonged period) played for us in recent years and is still a cult hero with many supporters although he let us down, disgraced us so often, and typified an era of failure.
Sometimes I think a generation of our fans wallows in failure and being hard done by ? and getting sent off.
But if so, your time has passed. No player disgraces us now, let other clubs worry about that. We are respected again and don?t need to whinge at referees, or worry about judges. We are established again in ?the emerging top six? , as The Guardian put it on Monday.
We have a sane balanced chairman, manager (ok he gets in occasional hot water officially, but it?s lukewarm in practice due to his standing) , good captain ? what Pip did with Fellaini in the derby is a standout for the season, taking over from the ref and telling him to get his act together . See that in any other club? Certainly not locally ? and not much anywhere.
Respect is best at Everton now. The best sort of players, manager, captain, and good football as well. So let?s be the best fans ? NSNO in every way.
Peter, words fail me, but if all you're after is respect fron The Gaurdian... crack on.
Peter, I have just read and re-read your post again, and words do actually come to mind, I'll list a few: Passion, Pride, Honour, Loyalty.
I will assume that if Everton get beat by the rs by a truly awful ref decision, you will put your cup of Earl Grey down and say to the missus/mr that ?We gave it our best shot and I think the ref might of got that a little wrong, he made four or five howlers but I'm sure he just has a weakness for the Sky Four, shall we retire upstairs so you can pull down my corderoys and give me what for... and I'll say thank you.?
Plumb.
I v?e just read it again...where do i start?
Weakness of this sort is a failure I?ve seen in many of my favourite people (?I met Prince Charles?) ? ugly but not unforgivable, unless you want to live a perfect life on your tod. (Plus no forgiveness for you when you go wrong!) And he got into debt which broke the FA rules. Well, I?ve known people I love do that as well (though the FA didn?t care about them)?????
Weakness of this sort is a failure I?ve seen in many of my favourite people (?I met Prince Charles?) ? ugly but not unforgivable, unless you want to live a perfect life on your tod. (Plus no forgiveness for you when you go wrong!) And he got into debt which broke the FA rules. Well, I?ve known people I love do that as well (though the FA didn?t care about them)?????
We have a sane balanced chairman, manager (ok he gets in occasional hot water officially, but it?s lukewarm in practice due to his standing). I was going to crack one off, but you've upset me so much I don't think I'd be able to manage it. I'm going to bed before I get really upset.
Nick
For God?s sake do not read it again and if you want a piece of advice there are better blue sites on the web to assist you in your handy work.
For God?s sake do not read it again and if you want a piece of advice there are better blue sites on the web to assist you in your handy work.
No, no, no. Can?t we object? Isn?t there a law to stop him in an authoritian position since he is declared a bankrupt or something like that.
There’s a simple reason why people who are in heavy debt cannot be referees. It’s because they may be prone to accept a solution to their debt in exchange for the obvious.
Peter, to defend that game as maybe having a bad day, is indefensible. It’s not me being bitter, as a football fan first, Everton fan second, it was a fucking disgrace.
Other Sky fans said the same that very night here in Singapore - including RS.
This is not about cozying up to glory and all that, it’s about trying to establish a level playing field as far as officials are concerned.
If anything, this yet again shows how useless and toothless the FA / PGMOL actually are.
Peter, to defend that game as maybe having a bad day, is indefensible. It’s not me being bitter, as a football fan first, Everton fan second, it was a fucking disgrace.
Other Sky fans said the same that very night here in Singapore - including RS.
This is not about cozying up to glory and all that, it’s about trying to establish a level playing field as far as officials are concerned.
If anything, this yet again shows how useless and toothless the FA / PGMOL actually are.
Bring the fucker back to Goodison I say, give him what for all through the game!! He?ll shit himself, be funny to see the lad squirm and be made a fool of by 38,000 Evertonians.
Peter,
I don’t think any of us are miserable hard done by whingers. We just know that Clattenburg is incompetent at what he does. Public and private life it seems.
I don’t think any of us are miserable hard done by whingers. We just know that Clattenburg is incompetent at what he does. Public and private life it seems.
Jesus! Peter
If you think ?that?s? whining you should come to a monthly Clive (?let?s get our story right fellas?) Thomas meeting in the Winslow one night
And balanced? Yes... buggar all in either pocket.
If you think ?that?s? whining you should come to a monthly Clive (?let?s get our story right fellas?) Thomas meeting in the Winslow one night
And balanced? Yes... buggar all in either pocket.
OK. Forgive me for been emotional. Now I have cool down and thought through. It must be the readshite who pull all the strings to get back at us for winnning that game.
I remember Clive Thomas?s first game back at Goodison after THAT semi.
The loudest most sustained period of booing I?ve ever heard (or been involved in) at Goodison.
Like a panto baddie, he simply smiled and put his hands over his ears ? he didn?t give a flying shite.
(I enjoyed it though ? cathartic like).
He was obviously an immense shitbag, but I just got the impression he did stuff like that coz liked the publicity and reputation.
With Clattenberg AND Colina I remember thinking ?we were not supposed to win this and they were there to ensure we didn?t?.
A much worse feeling for me.
The loudest most sustained period of booing I?ve ever heard (or been involved in) at Goodison.
Like a panto baddie, he simply smiled and put his hands over his ears ? he didn?t give a flying shite.
(I enjoyed it though ? cathartic like).
He was obviously an immense shitbag, but I just got the impression he did stuff like that coz liked the publicity and reputation.
With Clattenberg AND Colina I remember thinking ?we were not supposed to win this and they were there to ensure we didn?t?.
A much worse feeling for me.
Spot on RJ... I was told by the linesman at a footie Q&A some years ago that when they got in the dressing room Thomas went through a 'getting the story right' session ? ?cos he didn?t have a leg to stand on. "An infringement against the laws of the game" What a prick!
Pretty sure he went on to make himself some more headlines by disallowing a WC goal from a corner in the last seconds of the game. He was the forerunner of the celebrity refereeing nomarks so prevalent since. May all his descendants smell of lanolin.
I’ve said on these threads before that Thomas (and Poll) wallowed in their infamy and thrived on the oxygen of publicity that that same infamy gave them, after all, both wrote books immediately after retiring and that publicity earned them more book sales than they deserved.
Clattenburg? I think he’s too thick to think that far ahead, too starstruck by Stevie Me and the Red Shite to realise that people could see for themselves what a crooked twat he is.
And don’t get me started on Collina...
There, I feel better for that...
Clattenburg? I think he’s too thick to think that far ahead, too starstruck by Stevie Me and the Red Shite to realise that people could see for themselves what a crooked twat he is.
And don’t get me started on Collina...
There, I feel better for that...
Spot on Lee - I’m with you mate
EJR - I too recall the Demented Druid?s "return of shame", which was to officiate the FAC 3rd Round v Villa (we won 4-1) in Jan 1978.
Hope it?s a not omen but we then played ?Boro (away) in the next round and lost 2-3. My view on his return is quite simple:
"Never forget, never forgive"
Hope it?s a not omen but we then played ?Boro (away) in the next round and lost 2-3. My view on his return is quite simple:
"Never forget, never forgive"
I have just read with utter incredulity Peter?s post. According to him Duncan Ferguson shamed us and typified an era of failure. For me the great man was our one shining light in this era and played with a passion and commitment rarely seen in the modern game. I?d love to have Duncan in our squad today and I?m sure Moyesey would too.
Peter (or is it really Mark?) - keep taking the pills and we all pray for your recovery.
I know nothing about this man, apart from age (33) and the ineptitude of some of his performances.
Will forever be remembered for the Goodison derby game that left me hurling four letter obscenities at the TV screen and wanting five minutes alone in a room with no windows with this person. What an Ass.
The strange thing is if Clattenburg had not been the referee that day he would hardly be brought to mind by our supporters, but officiate he did, and he made a complete pig’s ear of it. I can hardly wait until he is seen back at Goodison once again!
Will forever be remembered for the Goodison derby game that left me hurling four letter obscenities at the TV screen and wanting five minutes alone in a room with no windows with this person. What an Ass.
The strange thing is if Clattenburg had not been the referee that day he would hardly be brought to mind by our supporters, but officiate he did, and he made a complete pig’s ear of it. I can hardly wait until he is seen back at Goodison once again!
Do you want the good news first???
OK. Ours and Stevie GBH’s favourite referee is still banned until May 2009.
Having somehow had his lifetime dropping from the "Approved" list reviewed. He appealed and won, the result is now only suspended until May!!!!
The bad news is he is still coming back to ruin a game near you !!!
OK. Ours and Stevie GBH’s favourite referee is still banned until May 2009.
Having somehow had his lifetime dropping from the "Approved" list reviewed. He appealed and won, the result is now only suspended until May!!!!
The bad news is he is still coming back to ruin a game near you !!!
Everyone knows that Collina was there for one reason that night, to stop 5 English teams getting through to the group stages and the man to stop that happening had to be brought out of retirement to do that job then dissapear as quickly as possible after operation stop Everton was done. The baldy arse wipe.
Clattenberg should not be allowed anywhere near the PL or FA Cup until next season. To bring him back at the most important part of the season is scandalous. His match fitness will not be 100% and any mistakes he might make will seem all the more important due to the critical period of the season.
I?m sorry but the FA is just asking for trouble and it's hardly fair to him either. Having said that he will probably be given high profile games in the PL as well as the Semi-Final and Final at Wembley. He has G Poll as one of his most ardent supporters.
Carolyn - I agree with your sentiments completely, and it would be great if we could find the payment made to Collina to do that job. That won?t happen, but we do know this:
The Italian ref?s association extended his licence after the retirement age. He reffed the Villarreal game before the start of the Serie A season.
They then told him he had to give up the money that he was getting for advertising cars, made by General Motors / Vauxhall (Vectra ads) / Opel. Opel were the sponsors of AC Milan. Collina took the money and walked. Mind you, they must have known that he was being paid for this before they gave him the extension.
Interestingly, AC Milan were docked points in the ?picking refs? scandal at the same time. You can look up other alleged corruption attached to AC Milan?s owner yourself if you?ve got a few hours to spare.
The Italian ref?s association extended his licence after the retirement age. He reffed the Villarreal game before the start of the Serie A season.
They then told him he had to give up the money that he was getting for advertising cars, made by General Motors / Vauxhall (Vectra ads) / Opel. Opel were the sponsors of AC Milan. Collina took the money and walked. Mind you, they must have known that he was being paid for this before they gave him the extension.
Interestingly, AC Milan were docked points in the ?picking refs? scandal at the same time. You can look up other alleged corruption attached to AC Milan?s owner yourself if you?ve got a few hours to spare.
"Welcome Back Mr Clattenburg"
I wont
I wont
I thought Clattenberg would take his testimonial from Liverpool and then ride off into the sunset.
I agree with Lee Robinson, bring the arshole to Goodison and give the hopless twat a real rough ride through the game. Would be very interesting to see how his refereeing decisions turn out then !!.
Everyone keeps talking about his performace that afternoon as being ?awful? and ?poor?, suggesting his only deficenciency was a lack of ability to referee properly. Let's call it what it was, BLATENT CHEATING!
We?ll never know if he was on someone's payroll or he was just plain biased but what I am certain of is I watched a derby get ruined by his delibrate actions. Some might disagree but that's my opinion and, despite Peter Hall?s ramblings, I am too passionate about my club to forgive or forget.
On a more positive note, I have to say my faith in British refs was reinstated slightly after the last 3 derbies. For the first time after watching Everton for 20 years, I actually thought the games where called down the line with no preference to either side.
We?ll never know if he was on someone's payroll or he was just plain biased but what I am certain of is I watched a derby get ruined by his delibrate actions. Some might disagree but that's my opinion and, despite Peter Hall?s ramblings, I am too passionate about my club to forgive or forget.
On a more positive note, I have to say my faith in British refs was reinstated slightly after the last 3 derbies. For the first time after watching Everton for 20 years, I actually thought the games where called down the line with no preference to either side.
Peter Hall - Guardian reader. Not surprising that you have a very liberal attitude to Mr Twattenburg. Enough said.
ps ? Collina: when I was checking information about him I noticed something ? his ?other occupation? was financial advisor. How appropriate.
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