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Glad to hear there as been a decrease in prices but there is one thing that i would of liked to have seen added: some kind of concessionary rate for disabled supporters not in wheelchairs. There isn't any concession for disabled supporters that don't use a chair.
Simon Rimmer, Wigan     Posted 28/02/2009 at 18:29:34

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Michael Kenrick
Looks like a great topic for some seriously insensitive PC rilement. How about this for starters:

Perhaps those who bring their own chair get a discount because they are relieving the club of the need to provide one for them? Whereas, those disabled who don't bring their own chair represent an equal burden to the club as those able-bodied who also don't bring a chair ? coz they both need to be seated.

Other than that simple logic, you'd have to go down an awfully tortuous path of deciding just what type and extent of disability qualifies you for a discount. For example, If I'm blind in one eye, but don't need a wheelchair, do I qualify for a 50% discount because I can (sort of) see only half the game?

Jay Harris
1   Posted 01/03/2009 at 01:00:40

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Michael
I know you?re on the piss in Cabo but that was a bit insensitive.

EFC always had a good reputation for looking after the disabled and if anything reflects the lack of thought about desolation Kirkby it's that disabled supporters have not been considered at all.
Gavin Ramejkis
2   Posted 01/03/2009 at 08:16:36

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I’ve not read the details yet on this season’s discounts but does anyone know if they are using the KW/BK calculator again where the percentage saving claimed is a lie?

Got to agree on the concerns of disabled consideration for Kirkby as it is truly non-existant, no parking, no thought on getting to or from the game which is a disgrace given our well documented reputation historically.
Shaun Sparke
3   Posted 01/03/2009 at 10:40:31

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Maybe concessions for disabled supporters should be considered, but I agree with Michael, how do you determine who would be eligible and who wouldn?t. As for Everton not providing any parking spaces for disabled fans. You and I know all too well that if Everton provided 100 disabled parking spaces then they would be filled immediately. If Everton provided 10,000 disabled parking spaces then they would be filled too, by the lazy tight arsed bastards who can get hold of a blue badge by hook or by crook. It's these type of people who ruin it for the genuine disabled fan, which is probably why the club won?t even consider such a scheme.
Jim Reardon
4   Posted 01/03/2009 at 13:01:57

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The People's Club my arse, take a look at Sunderland's prices to see how they treat thier fans.

Prices for the forthcoming quarter final should have been £20 adult and £10 child for season ticket holders

If we get to Wembley, will the club pay for our coach travel?
Wayne Dyer
5   Posted 01/03/2009 at 13:41:26

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Disablity is about access not price. As long as the club have the provision less abled supporters to get in and out of the match safely there should be no reduction.

There is no reduction for those who have lost their jobs, single parents, students over 18 etc.

I can?t see what your issue is?
Frank Duffy
6   Posted 01/03/2009 at 15:53:17

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I am in the Park End. Cannot remember what the season ticket cost this season. Can any one tell me how much they have gone down for 2009-10. Is it 10%?
Mike Byrne
7   Posted 01/03/2009 at 16:26:04

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I agree with Wayne Dwyer totally ? by all means makes sure disabled people have as easy access as possible but why on earth should it subsidised?
Shaun Sparke
8   Posted 01/03/2009 at 17:54:57

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Mike, if you are fortunate enough to be in good health and to still have all your limbs and senses intact and working correctly, then your earning potential is greatly enhanced. Those who are less fortunate often suffer from some appaling discrimenation when it comes to landing jobs. Additionally if both your legs had been blown off while serving your country do you think that a reduced season ticket price to watch your favourite team is asking for too much?
Tom Campbell
9   Posted 01/03/2009 at 18:28:01

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It’s 10%. I think Kenwright is trying to raise some vital cash for the Summer kitty
Wayne Dyer
10   Posted 01/03/2009 at 20:17:46

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Disability living allowance is reasonable but is for living not the ’luxury’ of football. Many people can’t afford tickets - should EFC subsidise them too?

If you are so disabled to require addtional income DLA is available. Otherwise I am afraid you must go without like the 2 million unemployed etc

Anthony Jaras
11   Posted 02/03/2009 at 10:04:25

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I agree that yes, any disability is a tragic affliction, however, to suggest that there should be a reduction in prices is nonsense.

Plenty of people who love going to the match who struggle to find the relevent funds.

I am a father of two kids, I work, my wife works and I still struggle financially to afford the full match day experience that I used to.

People who can’t work due to illness or disabilty are given benefits by the government and more often that not, these benefits are quite decent.

I should know, my father is disabled and brain damaged and has not walked for 8 years.

As someone earlier said, it’s not about asking for a cost reduction. As long as the facilities are in order then there should be no issue.
Martin Grays
12   Posted 02/03/2009 at 14:32:06

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I paid £532 last year/this year for the Park End as an early bird ticket, so if you renew on the early bird this year you pay..... £527. It's not an average 10% saving as claimed by the club, unless you take this years full price. I save £5, but I know I?m still going to get a ST!

On the disabled front, I had a major knee operation before the Fiorentina game last year, and had to go with crutches, and the club told me I couldn?t sit in my seat, so they moved me too... a seat 15 rows back in the middle, nowhere near the aisle ? it was a nightmare ? received no discount at all, (wouldn?t expect one) but also had to buy another ticket so someone could come with me as directed by the club. Only bad memories!!
David Arrow
13   Posted 02/03/2009 at 16:55:42

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On the wider issue of season ticket prices generally, once again our marketing department has been on their regular trip the to the Alastair Campbell school of spin.
When VAT was reduced late last year, the club immediately (and rightly)reduced match tickets by a quid. STH’s missed out on that because we had already paid for our seats. Therefore a true comparison of year on year prices should be less 19 quid. So, my early bird ticket last season was, if I remember correctly £532, which less the VAT saving is £513. For next season it’s £527, a 2.7% increase in an economy that will shortly have zero inflation.
Also on a very parochial point, pre-Wyness the club had ST discounts for students in full time education, which was change to 16-21. So, you can have a 20 year old in work getting a discount but a 22 year old student having to pay full price. How is that fair? Yes you guessed it, I have two further season tickets that fall in to this category.
To cap it all we have to renew even earlier than ever to benefit from the early bird.
Announcing season ticket prices in February is a record, I remember in Walters day, when we were fighting relegation, they never issued them until we were mathematically safe, which was usually sometime in April.
This success lark has it’s drawbacks!!

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