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Huth on Fellaini
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Didn't pick up on this so much watching the game from the Upper Gwladys St but, having caught the highlights on ITV last night, I was astounded by Huth's treatment of Fellaini when lining up for set pieces and also the officials' failure to spot it.
On a number of occasions Huth actually had Fellaini in a headlock FFS! Holding is too tame a word to describe Huth's tactics in the game and in light of recent attempts by certain managers to draw attention to (for "draw attention to" read target) particular Everton players I find this frustrating to say the least. If I were Fellaini, I'd have offered him my shirt at half time as he was obviously desperate to get it off him. Huth clearly paid no attention to the ball and just did everything in his power to stop the big man from moving or competing for the ball.
Main reason I've posted this (mailbag virgin alert) is because nobody else mentioned it! None of the pundits mentioned it on TV, none of the match reports in the papers touched on it, but to me it seemed like blatant gamesmanship and it occurred almost every time we won a corner.
Fellaini is no tackler and probably deserves most of the yellows he gets, but I wouldn't class him as a dirty player and I think he was given a bit of a raw deal yesterday.
Neil McKinney, Posted 09/03/2009 at 15:58:21
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The fact no penalty awards were given is as surprising as no mention of the repeatedly foul play in the media. I'm sorry to say it, but until the game is ridded of such tactics, we need to get clever, and Fellaini needs to go to ground when it happens to him.
Say what you like about him but he protects his football club like no other and its about time Davey started spouting a bit more ? it certainly worked before the derby games. It was the same with AJ, Moyes should of came out fighting because that was in a way cheating by trying to influence the ref before the game.
In fairness to Setanta Sports they did draw attention to the issue during their half-time analysis but Hartson more or less dismissed it by saying that Fellaini is a big boy and can give as good as he gets... Fat Bastard!
The annoying thing is, refs are all too quick to blow up for challenges the other way (i.e. against the attacker), particularly for seemingly fair challenges in the air on goalkeepers. I?d like to see refs get tougher on this, you can bet that once penalties start getting awarded then defenders will stop doing it.
?Their (Everton?s) only threat before the interval arrived from set pieces or in the hope that the referee, Mark Halsey, would punish Robert Huth for grappling Marouane Fellaini whenever he set foot inside the area. That was some hope. Not even a hand around the Belgian?s neck counted as an offence against the increasingly irate Fellaini.?
Apparently FIFA have slipped in a new law: Law12a, which states:
Law12 shall not apply, if the victim of the foul play is tall and has hair over 36 inches (91cm) in diameter.
I just wish David Moyes would rant on about it like the other fuckwits Benitez and Allardyce, just once, because it’s doing my head in that Screech gets booked for a couple of fouls when others commit twice as many fouls and don’t get spoken to. For instance, how many times did O’Neill throw the ball away whenever we won a free kick??
Halsey could have done what too many refs have done this season and booked our man for next to nothing while he was being relentlessly fouled by the opposition. We won?t get that every week, and there?s a long way to go before the Big Fella is comfortable in the PL, but he turned it on yesterday and there are very good days to come.
I saw the game here in Spain via Sky/Fox. The commentary seemed to be fair and the main man ? I don?t know his name ? got very close to how Marouane would pronounce his own surname, more like Fella-ee-nee than the usual Motson type approximation of Fellay-nee.
Big Fella will do me nicely.
...."we do things with dignity at Everton".......
When are these incompetent morons going to realise the ball doesn?t need to be involved for a foul to be a foul. If 1 ref grows a backbone and starts making these decisions this blatent cheating will stop. Southgate sent his CH Out with the instruction to cheat because he knew he would get away with it.
And also WTF is this "Eased him off the ball" bullshit about? Another Andy Grayism. Cahill was clearly pushed off the ball in the penalty area yesterday and I suppose the Sky pundits would say he was "eased off the ball" or "it would have been a soft penalty". It?s either a penalty or it isn't!!
And if it?s obstruction then an indirect free kick should be given.
It makes me laugh that this stupid offside rule is applied religiously but a longstanding rule for obstruction is blatantly ignored.
As for the headlock, a deffo pen ? it's football not rugby... Huth & Co were told to upset him to get him sent off!
I thought the ref was poor & the fouls he gave against us he was certainly no homer. Saying that, he blew up for full-time when they had a corner before they could take it. That does not happen much & it was inside the 4 minutes added-on time!
Whilst I would not want Moyes to turn into a crying gobshite like him across the park he needs to speak out more. or we will carry on getting jack shit help.
From the first to the last minute at Newcastle they let left their foot in on every tackle, it was a ploy simple as and we said nothing, it took another manager to highlight some of the stuff that went on, does this not give other teams ideas to do the same?
We spent months saying nothing about managers influencing refs over AJ and in that time we should of had 11 penalties through him alone and his confidence became shot and so with it his Everton career. Before you know it other managers will be calling Cahill before important games too.
I loved Moyes?s classic integrity shout, but as a matter of fact he was playing mind games for once and he won, so a bit more please Dave. Like it or not big managers try to influence games before a ball has been kicked, being too nice is a dissadvantage in my eyes.
Too many Evertonians have a persecution complex but all-in-all, we don?t do too bad with most refs, as would be obvious if you also noticed our team?s transgressions!
What you have to remember is that virtually every law is caveated with the phrase "in the interpretation of the referree", which is effectively a get out of jail free card in some instances.
On the Huth v Fellaini thing - the big fella has got to be very careful. He has a temper (as we saw when he was in a similar situation in the Hull match) and if he?s not careful he will end up getting sent off for lashing out at someone. He needs to learn to keep his composure.
Ideally he needs to learn off Cahill - I think Tim is a master at committing sneeky "team" fouls and taking advantage of grey areas in the laws in an inconspicuous manner. Fellaini needs to try and be more subtle in his approach to all aspects of the "off the ball" game, although granted it is difficult when you?re 6ft 5in and have an enormous barnet!
So, selective decision-making by cowards, in the main. I?ve heard Oliver Kay has published a set of photos detailing the assaults on Fellaini on Sunday but can?t find them on t?web.
As I said, just once would do me - might not make any difference, but would be very cathartic for quite a few of us, I would imagine!
It?s changing slowly: Clattenburg?s atrocities came back to haunt him - even though he?s weaseled his way back in, his credibility is shot. And I think Moyes?s dignified approach is preferable to the high-pitched squeaking of ... well, let?s leave that one. The fact is that the press are starting to notice the iniquities, and the refs read the press.
We?ll be the People?s Choice in the semis.


It was shockingly blatant. For much of the game, Halsey was obviously lenient in punishing the physical side, which might be interpreted as playing to our advantage. (I appreciate teh fact that he didn't book any of our players... but then again, he didn't book any of theirs either! To be fair to the refs, it's the hardest line they have to tread, between allowing some contact as being "part of the game", verses blowing up for each and every contact and driving us toward that horrific vision of a non-contact sport.
My guess is Huth was not punished yesterday because Halsey would have had to award a penalty, I believe (... or would it have been an indirect free-kick?), and he was obviously never going to do that. Could he not have at least warned Huth and told him to cut it out or else? But if Huth gets away with it each time, then he's obviously going to carry on doing it with increasing impunity.
"Respect" ... ??? Phfteey!