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Cahill's corner flag 'foul'?
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Just a quick point, sort of following on from the 'Huth on Fellaini' article.
In the last minutes of time added on, Gosling won a corner and played it to Cahill who attempted to waste time by keeping the ball in the corner, that goofy fat baldy twat Halsey gave a foul for Boro??? I have watched literally thousands of football matches & have never, ever seen that given as an infringment!!
That for me summed up Mark Halsey's performance, just wanted to see if the rest of ya seen it & what your thoughts were now these incidents have been brought to light.
Should Moyes continue this policy of not generally speaking about it or should he make these points publically, a la Fergie, Wenger, Mourinho, Allardyce, and most other managers??
John Lloyd, Posted 10/03/2009 at 02:01:07
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You're talking crap Tony !
There was also the incident when Halsey waved play on when a Middlesbro player was offside but some of the Everton players hadn't seen or heard him which caused confusion.
His overall performance was crap, waving to the crowd and hesitant when giving decisions. In fact, he blew the final whistle 10 seconds early when Boro had a corner.
There was also the incident when Halsey waved play on when a Middlesbro player was offside but some of the Everton players hadn't seen or heard him which caused confusion.
His overall performance was crap, waving to the crowd and hesitant when giving decisions. In fact, he blew the final whistle 10 seconds early when Boro had a corner.
People moan about the ref when we loose and moan about him when we win. Consistent yes. But for heaven's sake, we are all starting to sound like Liverpool fans. Bloody victims of every injustice.
Cut it out.
Cut it out.
Come on Shaun, Halsey was crap and we won in spite of him on Sunday. Why compare everyone who complains about a ref to Liverpool fans? Everyone thinks refs are shit - take Wiley at Blackburn, both sets of fans thought he was shit.
I totally agree, the vast majority of refs are crap, Alan.
But to have a number of posts on here bleating about it is getting a little boring.
But to have a number of posts on here bleating about it is getting a little boring.
I thought Halsey had a great game, didn't get too much wrong and let the game flow when a lot of tackles were flying in. I think he is one of the better refs; now if you want to talk about Bennett or Riley, that is a different story. Let's not moan about the ref, give him some credit, look forward to Wembley. COYB
I think the referee gave the free kick because he had realised that he had made a mistake in awarding a corner when it should clealy have been a goal kick as Gosling kicked it straight out. Sensible refereeing in my opinion ? on rare occasions, two wrongs do make a right.
Whilst I believe Halsey did make some errors, I think he had a decent game. Aside from the ongoing battle between Felli and Huth, what else did he get wrong? And to be fair he let both players just get on with it.
At least Halsey attempts to let the game flow and any mistakes he makes are generally at least for the right reasons ? give me Mark Halsey ahead of Riley, Wiley, Styles, Bennett etc etc etc any day, I think he?s ok.
I thought he did well. He tried to keep the game flowing when it would’ve been easier to blow up. I hate that bullshit of running the clock down in the corner, (although all sides do it).
Glad he blew up up before the corner was taken though. I had a bad feeling about that.
Glad he blew up up before the corner was taken though. I had a bad feeling about that.
It was a shite decision, but TECHNICALLY not wrong. Ref probably sees it as obstruction of some sort.
Bit stupid though. And wierd to see a ref so intent of giving one particular team more time to score.
Bit stupid though. And wierd to see a ref so intent of giving one particular team more time to score.
Peter... As I understand it, obstruction doesn't exist anymore, this is really no different to a defender shielding the ball out of play which never has fouls given for it.
Mike Jovic, I think you are right.
He got the corner decision wrong so the foul was given. I don?t think HE realised it was the wrong decision though. I think he got word through his ear piece.
I have been thinking for some weeks now that refs have a 3rd eye looking over the game for them so they can even the game out as ?fairly? as possible.
It is a bit dodgy but but I think it?s fair. I just wish they would tell us the truth rather than lie about it.
He got the corner decision wrong so the foul was given. I don?t think HE realised it was the wrong decision though. I think he got word through his ear piece.
I have been thinking for some weeks now that refs have a 3rd eye looking over the game for them so they can even the game out as ?fairly? as possible.
It is a bit dodgy but but I think it?s fair. I just wish they would tell us the truth rather than lie about it.
By the way, the link to the Moyes Casino story is here -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1160749/Moyes-good-How-Everton-gambled-casino-night--won.html
The links takes you to the wrong place on the homepage.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1160749/Moyes-good-How-Everton-gambled-casino-night--won.html
The links takes you to the wrong place on the homepage.
Re: Chris.
Really!? I stand corrected, that?ll save me some time shouting at the TV. lol.
Are you sure? When did that change?
Really!? I stand corrected, that?ll save me some time shouting at the TV. lol.
Are you sure? When did that change?
Thought Halsey had a terrific game. Lets the game flow, doesn?t produce the cards willy-nilly, plays advantage but has got the guts to bring back play if the advantage doesn?t work out... To me, Halsey and Webb are the best referees on the circuit. I hate it when we get Riley, Bennett or Atkinson.
The neck and arm wrestling in the areas can only be targetted if the Linesman comes into the area to help the referee.
The neck and arm wrestling in the areas can only be targetted if the Linesman comes into the area to help the referee.
Thanks for the link, Brian.
The obstruction rule still applies but you need to be in control or within immediate playing reach of the ball.
Ref can't have had too bad a game ? he didn't book Screech...
The ref has his usual incompetent game, shite for both side but I think we edged the more shite decisions with Screech beaing battered by Huth.
The one thing that stuck in my mind was near the Gwlady/family enclosure and the ball went out after a little scuffle and it was clearly a corner, Halsey was right behind play and saw it, yet he looked over to his linesman who was 40 yards away for him to make a decision, absolutely disgraceful.
The one thing that stuck in my mind was near the Gwlady/family enclosure and the ball went out after a little scuffle and it was clearly a corner, Halsey was right behind play and saw it, yet he looked over to his linesman who was 40 yards away for him to make a decision, absolutely disgraceful.
I thought Halsey had an ok game. Unfortunately, Fellaini is being singled out for aggressive treatment and appears unable to deal with it. I fear a red card at Wembley if he hasn?t had one before that.
Is this the same Mark Halsey who blew the final whistle 10 seconds early with the keeper coming up for a Middlesbrough corner?
Yeah, he really did us no favours, did he?
Yeah, he really did us no favours, did he?
With the exception of not booking Huth for persistent fouling on Fellaini, I really can?t see why people are complaining about Halsey's performance on Sunday. I would have bought the man a pint the other day after he blew up early... imagine if ?Boro had netted from the corner? Some people just feel the need to complain no matter what happens.
Halsey didn’t do too bad apart from not giving us the eight penalties for Huth’s fouls on Fellaini!
I’d wager that Huth was closer to Felli than his missus has ever been!
But apart from that, he was brilliant.
I’d wager that Huth was closer to Felli than his missus has ever been!
But apart from that, he was brilliant.
After further consideration, I have decided to do a 180 degree turn, as Garry put, he blew up early and that swung it for me. I was bricking it, as I expected him to allow the corner.
I have always said he was a great ref!!!
I have always said he was a great ref!!!
Tony Yarnold, when Halsey gives the free kick he simulates Cahill pushing his backside into the opponent, not his elbow. Please watch the game properly.
I’ve been refereeing for about 14 years now and I can say that when a ref begins to try and compensate for his mistakes by making further mistakes (hence the foul called on Cahill), he is digging an even bigger hole for himself. Obstruction does still exist and I can say that Cahill was definitely not obstructing. Average job by Halsey but I’ve seen worse.
Apart from the Huth headlock failure to give us a penalty ? he was ok!
He did do a rare thing by blowing the final whistle as they were given a corner within the injury time period ? very, very rare... never seen any other modern day ref do that! I was so relived as I could just see them grabbing a late equaliser!
So all-in-all, he did do us that favour... there are worse refs than Halsey!
He did do a rare thing by blowing the final whistle as they were given a corner within the injury time period ? very, very rare... never seen any other modern day ref do that! I was so relived as I could just see them grabbing a late equaliser!
So all-in-all, he did do us that favour... there are worse refs than Halsey!
Cahill did not commit a foul, anyone arguing that is talking rubbish and doesn’t know the rules.
Ainsley Dale (real name?!) is spot on. It wasn’t a corner in the first place so the ref invented a foul. They actually do it quite a lot and Andy Gray points it out in commentary. When he sees an incorrectly given corner he’ll say something along the lines of "what’s the betting we see a free kick for the defence off this?" and lo and behold, it happens.
Not sure what the explanation is for the treatment of Fellaini by Huth and Pogatetz. ITV showed a montage they titled ’Physical Boro’ which included two penalties by Huth and a red card by Pogatetz (which amusingly, caught Stewart Downing as much as it caught Fellaini). This is the disgraceful refereeing we should be whingeing about, especially as other managers see fit to point out our players, and, clumsy as he is, Fellaini is genuinely picked on by refs in the way Crouch was at the last World Cup (they even admitted that, thinking it was okay).
Moyes should be in the papers pointing this out.
Ainsley Dale (real name?!) is spot on. It wasn’t a corner in the first place so the ref invented a foul. They actually do it quite a lot and Andy Gray points it out in commentary. When he sees an incorrectly given corner he’ll say something along the lines of "what’s the betting we see a free kick for the defence off this?" and lo and behold, it happens.
Not sure what the explanation is for the treatment of Fellaini by Huth and Pogatetz. ITV showed a montage they titled ’Physical Boro’ which included two penalties by Huth and a red card by Pogatetz (which amusingly, caught Stewart Downing as much as it caught Fellaini). This is the disgraceful refereeing we should be whingeing about, especially as other managers see fit to point out our players, and, clumsy as he is, Fellaini is genuinely picked on by refs in the way Crouch was at the last World Cup (they even admitted that, thinking it was okay).
Moyes should be in the papers pointing this out.
I think the big fella is ungainly in his tackling which unfortunately gets him booked for persistent niggling rather than foul play.
However, the disgraceful way he was dealt to by Huth and Polgatetz and let go by the referee was nothing short of criminal. Continually held, fouled (what ever happened to the rule about hitting players in the face you know, raising your hands to an opponent???) On at least two occasions Huth tried to rip ears and nose from MF and I think he was only pulled up once in the whole match for it.
However, the disgraceful way he was dealt to by Huth and Polgatetz and let go by the referee was nothing short of criminal. Continually held, fouled (what ever happened to the rule about hitting players in the face you know, raising your hands to an opponent???) On at least two occasions Huth tried to rip ears and nose from MF and I think he was only pulled up once in the whole match for it.
The Setanta commentators where astounded he kept getting away with it. Why? No wonder MF gets frustrated.
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