United are just where we want them
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As bizarre as it sounds, United could be just where we want them. They are being hyped by the media and the players might be starting to believe their own bullshit ? always a danger sign for soccer teams.
Everton on the other hand rediscovered their self-belief in the second half of the Middlesbrough game. Yes we can play with passion and invention without Arteta, although it takes passion and commitment.
Strange things happen in soccer. I think the game could be a lot closer than some think.
Andrew Gaule,
Whitehorse, Yukon Territory Posted 12/03/2009 at 23:20:06
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Michael Kenrick
Err... isn' it like a whole month away? Didn't somebody famous once say "a week is a long tim in football"?
And it’s "football". Soccer is a game played by girls in the USA ;-)
I’m more concerned about us all looking forward to the Cup and forgetting about the league. I reckon this w/e’s game is going to be tough. Stoke are an awkward team to play, are desperate for points and showed recently against Villa that they are not easy beats. It is an important game for us to consolidate our 6th spot, maybe push on for 5th (even if my feeling is that Arsenal are going to finish the season strongly) and keeping our momentum going. We can worry about Utd in 4-5 weeks time.
Man U are on fire at the moment.. gonna be a tough game...
Also Stoke will be hard
.... Mr BEATTIE with a point to prove ?.. Hes been playing well since he signed for Stoke.. 49 points in my fantasy football league.. 5 goals and 2 assists..
Will he get booed ? Not sure, I thought he was crap in his time at Goodison..
Oh Jesus fucking Christ please don?t start this whole "football vs. soccer" bullshit.
It?s the same shit, different word... big whoop.
Here in Oz it took a great performance by the Socceroos in the last World Cup for most natives to realise that here was another brand of football. Up to then, media publicity was dominated by Aussie Rules and the two Rugby codes Grass roots Soccer, oops! football, has more than double the participation rate of the two Rugbys and Aussie Rules combined.
A good showing in the next World Cup will turn the tide running for our footy into an unstoppable tsunami. It used to be said that our game was the sleeping giant of Australian sport and, when Australia failed to qualify for the WC finals, bottles of champagne were opened in the board rooms of the other codes.
Is right Michael. Call me greedy but I?d like to have the Villa and Arsenal right were we want them, before we even start to think about the Mancs.
I know its the oldest cliche of the lot, but come one Andrew, one game at a time.
Sorry Jimmy but I hate that word soccer as well. It’s football, the clue’s in the name, it’s played solely with the feet (ok and head) unlike all the other codes.
I’m with you, Jimmy. Bit arrogant, I think, of us to want to appropriate the words exclusively for ourselves. ’My dicks bigger than your dick’ (pardon the pun, Dick!) football debates really go nowhere, don’t they. Rugby, Australian Rules and, for that matter, American football are all as entitled to refer to their codes as ’football’ as we are - they have been doing so ever since their principal unions, leagues or associations were formed in the 19th century with that word in it. In fact, ’soccer’ is a contraction of ’Association Football’ - still the proper term for our code in my old fashioned opinion. And Howard, ’solely’ played with the feet and head? Clue: Big Nev...
Useless fact: the word ?Soccer? was invented in England, I think to distinguish Association Football from Rugby Football as there was some kind of split. So people calling it soccer are actually well within their rights. :)
Steve Carter,
Sorry I didn’t read your post fully before I did mine
Everton's best chance against Manure will be in the middle of defence, Ferdinand & his back-up Johnny Evans are both carrying injuries. If Saha is fit & he can produce 1 possibly 2 magical turns, that's were the goals will come from.
Other than that, our game will consist of basically defending, and that suits me fine considering our limited resources. Just need to keep Louis fit.
COYB
Can we leave this until the week before the game please? Unless I’ve been asleep for the past month and it’s actually April 13th, not March 13th........
If we ease Louis Saha back in over the next few games he could be flying by the time of the semi-final. He will be up for it, as well.
We need Jo to step up and take the pressure off Saha in the league, which will give us the luxury of being able to ease him back in and he should be on top form by the time we get to Wembley.
Of course we can win the match, but it would require a top performance from us and United to have an off-day - a big ask of a team like United in a major Semi-Final.
In the mean-time, lets concentrate on beating Stoke on Saturday. We need a goal from Jo and a 2 goal win at least to keep the CL dream alive! COYB!
I hate the term soccer but only because Americans reserve the term football for American football.
The term soccer comes from the word "association" as in association football - a term used to distinguish the types of code when the game was in its infancy. However, I think we can all agree theres no confusing football with rugby or any other code of football today.
American Football - play with an egg and rarely use the foot. Our game is football, as Howard above says, clue is in the word.. foot and ball.
As for the semi final, lets win the next 3 league games first (Stoke, Pompey and Wigan). With the Villa playing Spurs, the shyte and man ure, we should, I say should, go into the game at Villa Park above them in the league.
Get some weird diversions on these threads at times
It?s alleged that the term ?soccer? originated at Oxford University in the late 19th century when student Charles Wreford-Brown was asked "are you playing rugger today?" "No", he replied, "I?m playing soccer". Adding -er to form diminutives was quite popular with the upper-crust at that time.
By the way, Jimmy, where do you stand on ?footie? vs ?togger??
I think it?s nice to able to go in to a game not thinking that you?re gunna win. If we do, it?s a bonus, but if we don?t it?s just a piss up.
Fuck it, don?t bother getting upset over Everton losing any more; those days are long gone.
Over here we play Gaelic Foothandsgroundball. It’s soccer.
Ahh, so that's why the Mancs are on the verge of winning another Prem title, are World Club Champions, Carling Cup Winners, FA Cup Semi-finalists, quarters of the Champions League... because they are being hyped by the media, and starting to believe their own bullshit.
Nothing to do with them being a top quality side consisting of a lot of world class players then?
Brian - a voice of reason at last. It will be, at best, a seriously difficult game whoever is in their team. Sure, we have a chance, but let’s keep it in perspective. Spurs showed that ManU are vulnerable, bt you need to ask questions of them and not just try & soak it all up and hope for a breakaway.
I am also more interested in catching Villa & the Arse. But I do have this little fantasy about playing at Wembley and James Vaughan brings 3 year of injury-ridden hell to an end by scoring the winner...
I always thought the word soccer came from "association" as in Association Football. We called it soccer as kids and nobody seemed to mind until the Yanks took it up and called it "Sarka". What does Tim Howard call it?
All the bollarx about football soccer is stupid ? as Alan said ? Soccer came from an abbreviation of "Association", and all the high and mighty peeps who say that "the clue is in the name with football" should look into the history of the game. Initially it was played with the hands and more similar to rugger, so stop all this idiocy.
On to Stoke ? they scare the buggery out of me... but all Prem teams do ? I still have the pessimism of a mid 90s Evertonian; it?s still hard to shake off. Having said that... COYB!
Their... there. Come on, guys, work it out. I don't want twats from the meeja calling us knuckle draggers. Their, belonging to us (coyb) as there, we are at goodison.
I have been in my job for 20 years but today I learned something new. So we can always learn something new!
We need to focus on Stoke. Funny how every game is "the big one" until the next one.
COYB
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