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Where are you Shandy...???
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All season, we have had players playing out of their natural position, sometimes with great success (Tiny Tim) and sometimes not (right back Jags)... But only now, when we have two proven centre-forwards (fuck what Man City says, he will do for me). we have no-one to provide the service...
Wrong, we have Shandy Andy!
What have we got to lose? 6th place is almost ours so if we really want 4th this is the man to provide it. Osman is no winger ? we all know this ? so before we ALL question this boys ability,even though he is blue through and through, take him out of teh side, Davey, and give us what we all want...
Andy van der Meyde.
COYB
Steven Duffin, Posted 24/03/2009 at 16:12:24
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If you think we have nothing to lose you are wrong. He is fat, slow and offers absolutely nothing defensively. What really pisses me off is that people forget what a drain on the club he is. If Everton were a cow he would be the parasitic flea feeding off it (to the tune of 30 grand a week). I cannot wait till we get shot of this charlatan. Oh & by the way he has a hamstring injury anyway... big surprise there!
He has fecking milked us dry and single-handedly taken the hard earned off about 1000 everton fans every week for 3 years - HE OWES US!
This disgrace of a human being should be run out of town. Wanting him picked shows little pride in themselves or the shirt.
Like I said on the day, the cushiest job at EFC is the cleaning Shandies boots job. Spotless they were.
Secondly, for someone who has been out of the PL for so long, what makes anyone think he could ever contribute more than a cameo appearance? Better players than him, Saha for instance, struggle to make an impact after being out of the game for so long. Will Yakubu necessarily be the same player after so long out, for instance?
No, the sooner people stop being seduced by the foreign name and thinking that it must necessarily make him a fantastic player, the better. It’s like the mentality that says a player’s Brazilian, so he must be good. Oh, that’s a separate thread ......!
I tell you what chaps, why don?t we NOT try something different week-in, week-out. Why don?t we keep playing Osman on the right where he doesn?t like to play and isn?t really that effective and then NOT sub him even though he?s absolutely fucked as he clearly has been over the last few weeks cos that?ll win the FA cup for us and get us into the Champions League won?t it? eh?
One cross is all it fucking takes boys. I fully accept that Andy hasn?t endeared himself to the fans but he is an EMPLOYEE and as such it?s BAD management to leave an employee doing nothing week-in, week-out. Look at all the bullshit on here about Jacobsen. I read all the ?Moyes knows the players better than you, if he?s not playing then he can?t be any good? bullshit but he did okay on Saturday didn?t he?
Let's use these players to get where we wanna be at the end of the season because if all goes well we may end up in a position where we can fuck them off and get someone better, can?t we.
We must try something new in games, Ossie is playing very poorly and Gosling is still learning. We need some creativity, especially with Mikel injured. If he played 5 or 6 matches, got match fit and played out of his skin, you would ALL forgive him.
I agree that the lad has been a drain on the club and has wasted a fantastic opportunity to ?find a good home for himself? but we?re paying him... so use him!
And just for the record, my lads at the EFC academy, I?m there 4 times a week. ADVM is injured and when he first came here he was living the party lifestyle but, since the problems with his daughter, the staff at the Academy have ALL told me how he has been pounding the gym every day for months, ripping it up in training and on his best behaviour. I think he deserves a chance, in fact it's not even that... he?s a quality player, so let's use him.
We all know when Moyesie doesn't like you, it's hard to get back in his good books, but I think he might just give us an extra edge.
Let the abuse begin, come on boys... I?m ready.
Yes you are right, he is CURRENTLY injured but the argument is that he has been around on a number of games this season where he COULD have been used. He COULD have made a difference in some of them. As I said before, it only takes one good cross, as it did in the Derby.
And I?m not saying that he should replace Osman in the starting line-up... simply that there is a valid case for using him on the right hand side, even if it is only for 20 minutes a game because, if you follow your philosophy, a ?piss poor? Osman (or any other player for that matter) could soon turn into a ?burnt out injured? one!
Moyes didn?t owe Krøldrup anything, ?cause he was crap. But AvdM has always played well, when given the opurtunity. I can?t believe why fans on this forum constantly pick on him, just for not beeing selected. That?s exactly the reason.
I call it "The Springfield mentality". Everyone who has seen the Simpsons knows what I mean. It starts with a lynchmob chasing one person down the streets. Then all of a sudden, one person stops and says a few nice words, and there you go... everybody loves him again.
Now Moyes is the one that is making you all run riot about VdM just for beeing left out of the team. And everyone is making up excuses for Moyes as the Dutchman is not playing, him being slow, fat, drunk and blah blah blah...
I tell you who is slow. Osman is slow, Pienaar is slow, Arteta is slow, and Fellaini is so damn slow, his own grandmother would outrun him on the field. The whole team is slow for gods sake.
AvdM fat?? I tell you who is fat. Yakubu is FAT! And he is also slow... oh and did I mention, he is injured too? That would surely awake the Springfiled mentality in some of you I suppose.
AvdM drunk?? How many of you can honestly say that you have met the Dutchman at the pub, laying on the floor with a bottle of booze in the hand? None of you, I suppose. And that is very very strange, cause when reading this forum I get the feeling that Shandy Andy is not doing anything but drinking at the pubs. I wonder where his secret pub is?
VdM doesn?t make enough good crosses... as one of you pointed out. One against Boro and one against Liverpool. Yeah... so what? He has hardly played between those games!! Not even Arteta has made two good crosses during that time, and he has played almost every game.
And the one player that is actually a big waste of space is Anichebe. Not only for being useless on the field, but also for being a complete dork. "Hmm ehhh, the cops did stop me outside a jeweller store. They must be racists." A couple of weeks earlier everyone hated him. Then he played one good game against Newcastle, he got injured, got harassed by the cops... and then everyone loves him again. Springfield mentality hehe....
Oh by the way, I said back then that I found his comment about the racist cops, stupid. And most of the readers went berserk and started screaming about hatred here and hatered there. Very funny, I must say... ?cause when almost everyone screamed about how "hatred has no place in football", there were threads on this forum about "What player do you hate most", "What team do you hate most", "What manager do you hate most". This is hillarious... Springfield anyone???
Forget about him, he will never play again for us, maybe at Fulham for his goodbye, if he can become fit again by then ? I am not holding my breath.
Tony, were all five pairs brand spankers having not been used?
As someone remarked on this post, how many decent crosses have we seen from other players this season?... I haven?t counted off all the fingers on one hand yet! He was bought because DM saw something good in him ? I presume... so why does he not get the chance to prove himself on the pitch?
He has apparently surmounted the problems of a very sick child, which is enough for anyone to contend with. Give him a break; he?s a blue and so are all his adverse critics I assume.
Shandy has proven ability. He just hasn't had the chance to prove it with us, in part due to injury, in part due to Moyes's reluctance to play him. So how do we attribute blame for this one?? 50:50 between the 2 of them? Ok, but that's suggesting somehow Shandy being injured is his own fault. When he?s had a chance in the team, he?s had an impact. What more can the fella do...
You would think he would have a bit about him in repaying the club but a leopard does not change his spots, he was the same In Italy too and Moyes should've known this as it has cost us a fortune.
By saying this, I mean that Shandy Andy ? who is by no means FAT and also WAY faster than most of our first team players ? can?t be automaticly slagged off just because Moyes doesn?t fancy him. Even if I don?t think he is an alcoholic, that is not enough for not giving him the chance.
Correct me if I am wrong but Duncan Ferguson was caught drink-driving the day before he scored his first goal against Liverpool in 94. Paul Gascoigne, Tony Adams, George Best are just a couple of players that can fit that category.... But not AvdM.
Sam Morrison said that "to hate something in football isn?t the same as racial hatred." Do you honestly think that the policemen were racist? The Merseyside police doesn?t even accept BNP members to be cops. So Anichebe thought..."Hmmm.... these two must have slipped by".
It?s laughable really. It makes the thought even more laughable when people say that it is "racism" to stop Anichebe from "Window shopping" (it?s their job for god's sake) but it is perfectly normal to hate 30 individuals just because they have the wrong colour of the SHIRT. These days I believe it?s more dangerous to sit in the Gwladys Street booing John Barnes (if he was still playing), than booing our own Tony Hibbert.
Agreed you can be fat and good. Mickey Quinn banged a few goals in and he was a tubster.
I would try to explain why but it seems that you probably struggle to understand the concept of real life so I won?t waste my time.
Osman's delivery can be quite poor from the right. Pienaar's is better but nowhere near as good as Arteta?s so I say take the gamble on AVDM. He has showed ability in the past so it must be still in his locker somewhere. If he can get fit and make an impact, he might be worth one more year.
I just don't see how the blues can go out and buy a quality winger which they need. Downing will be about £12M at least ? even if Boro go down.
The basis of football is simple ? drop those players who are not performing and replace them with the appropriate player from the bench... Moyes does not accept this simple premise.
Osman, Pienaar and others are evidently not in the team on merit... otherwise, VDM would have been given some playing time when he was on the bench. Something else keeps players like Osman in the team.
Everybody wants to blame VDM, and he obviously must be accountable for his own behaviour... but he performed exactly the same routine at Inter (why do you think we got him for a pittance!)... and yet we still brought him here.
So, who?s really to blame?
Drink, drugs and pregnant Lap dancers are all high on the agenda but that doesn't mean he can't be given a final chance. Seeing as we are short on numbers and paying the lad £30k a week, and some of our current crop are shite, give him another go. Surely he can't be any worse than waste-of-space Osman can he?
So, if you want a change from Osman et al, why not play a youngster? Baxter anyone?
Joeynkoo, booze, drugs and athletes don't mix end of, it weakens the body, makes you unfit and the recovery speed from injury becomes slow. So yes, it is his fault his injury history and no part anybody else, he has taken the piss out of this club, has not had an ounce of respect to get his act together and repay the fans and manager who have shown too much support for him and in return he will leave with a legacy of being our biggest waste of money EVER.


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