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Team for Sunday

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Ok, a predictable title, but I thought we could open a discussion on what the team will be for Sunday.

It seems maybe obvious what the team will be, but is there any changes anyone would like to see?

Myself, I wouldn't mind starting Vaughany. I know it's a MASSIVE gamble but he has that drive and motivation to give everything. I think he's the type of player who's adrenaline could carry him through to the 70-75 mins mark.
Sean McNally, Waterloo, Liverpool     Posted 17/04/2009 at 11:12:19

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Chris Mason
1   Posted 17/04/2009 at 16:18:26

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No way will Vaughany start, outside shot at subs. My Everton XI: Howard, Hibo, Jags, Lescott, Baines, Ozzie, Felly, Neville, Pienaar, Cahill, Saha. I beg anybody to differ!!
Chris Fisher
2   Posted 17/04/2009 at 16:18:30

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I don't disagree with you 100%, Sean but I'd say leave him on the bench until about the 70th minute and have him take advantage of the weary United defence! I'd go for:

Howard, Hibbert, Jagielka, Lescott, Baines, Osman, Neville, Fellaini, Pienaar, Cahill, Saha (if he's fit... and if he's not, then Rodwell with Cahill as the front man). Then, depending on which Ossy turns up, super Dan Gosling on with 15 to go to upset Evra!
James Boden
3   Posted 17/04/2009 at 16:21:57

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I can see why you would play Vaughan but he hasn?t played 1st team game for 5 months. I would put him on the bench, and depending on how things are going, give him a run out. There is no doubt that Vaughan could have an impact Sunday but he will not be starting.

As for the team Sunday, I am certain it will be the same as before with just Saha replacing Jo. And I don?t need to give any indications over who I think will be the weak link for us.
COYB

Matthew Lovekin
4   Posted 17/04/2009 at 16:21:03

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Unfortunately Vaughany is nowhere near starting as much as I?d love to see it. However, he certainly can be used as a super sub!

Just hope Saha is fit to start and can take part for as long as possible. Wouldn?t mind Gosling starting either but don?t think Moyes will risk it for such a big game. If Saha is fit, the team practically picks itself:

Howard, Hibbert, Baines, Jagielka, Lescott, Osman, Neville, Cahill, Pienaar, Fellaini, Saha.

Subs: Nash, Jacobsen, Yobo, Rodwell, Gosling, Van der Meyde, Vaughan.
Tony Marsh
5   Posted 17/04/2009 at 16:32:25

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Play both Hibbert and Osman down the right hand side at Wembley and we will get twatted no question. The pair were a disgrace on Sunday at Villa and I can't believe anyone wants them to play against a far superior side like Man Utd.

I feel like crying every time I see those two clowns line up and I just don't understand how any sane Evertonian can have them as automatic selections. PLEASE FFS drop at least one of them.
Liam Scott
6   Posted 17/04/2009 at 16:37:19

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Yep, same team... just Saha replacing Jo. James Boden, sorry if I'm being dim but who do you think the weak link is going to be?
Chris Williams
7   Posted 17/04/2009 at 16:43:09

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I reckon he might go back to the defensive formation he favoured previously by bringing back Yobo and playing Jagielka at right back ? especially after Hibbert?s lousy performance against Villa.

Probably Saha up front but if he?s not fit then Fellaini and Cahill up front with Gosling or Rodwell in midfield, with a bench full of kids.
James Boden
8   Posted 17/04/2009 at 16:54:50

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Liam, if you read my article, you will know who I have said will be the weak link.
Alec Laurie
9   Posted 17/04/2009 at 17:10:29

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Sorry to change the subject...

One of the best quotes I?ve ever heard! Tim Cahill in the Independent...

"So when you see kids on the streets of Liverpool in Everton jerseys you?re like, ?well done, son?. You?re really proud of them because they genuinely support their local club. When we play derbies we see coaches coming from Norway carrying Liverpool supporters..."

Love it! COYB

Ian Tod
10   Posted 17/04/2009 at 17:12:21

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My team would be: Howard, Jacobsen, Jagielka, Lescott, Baines, Osman, Cahill, Neville, Pienaar, Fellaini, Saha.

Although I know Moyes will start with Hibbert at right-back, even though he had a very shaky game against Villa and Jacobsen shored things up when he came on for Hibbert.

Alan Kirwin
11   Posted 17/04/2009 at 17:20:17

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Playing JV after one & half reserve games and a season out would be suicide IMHO. He needs another month minimum. If Saha is out then I guess we’re in the shit yet again, but I would not risk Vaughan from the start.

As for the idea of playing Jags at RB again, PLEASE NO! I would hope that lessons were learned from that experiment. Our best central two are Jags & Lescott. Jacobsen did well when he came on. Yobo has played RB for Nigeria several times. We shall see.

Some confident words this week from Lescott & TC. We have nothing to lose and so I just hope we do it justice. Best football for years last Sunday at Villa. It would be beautiful not just to beat them, but to outplay them in the process.

Can’t wait.
Iain Love
12   Posted 17/04/2009 at 17:29:16

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The team is obvious, it?s the tactics that are interesting. Recently, teams like Liverpool, Fulham and Porto have had a go at Manure and did well (Villa should have won). Moyes's natural inclination would be defensive and hope for a goal from a set-piece ? so what do you lot think he will do?

I hope we have a go at them; I think they have too many lazy players to compete with a team going full throttle at them. Berbatov the impaler, Ronney the diver and Carrick the lazy twat (couldn?t think of anything else) don't put a shift in especially in defense. We look far better going forward than trying to shut up shop, the big Fella being a nightmare to handle when he plays off the front.

Vaughayn coming on late to either give them something to think about if we?re winning or as an extra striker if not.

Phil Houghton
13   Posted 17/04/2009 at 17:50:34

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I am not so sure that the side is as certain as some think. Even if he didn’t ever have a virus, I don’t think Moyes will start with Saha. I think he may play Jack in the middle, the Big Fella and Tim up top. Saha will then come on for the last 20 minutes or so, depending on score. Remember, if he plays from the start, he will only last 75 minutes and then what if it goes to ET?
Jon J Cox
14   Posted 17/04/2009 at 18:28:38

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I think who plays is not the real question rather the tactics and formation.

As is mostly agreed, the team almost picks itself. Moyes this season has done really well with a 4-4-2. Sunday, however, I see him for the first half, going for the tried and trusted 4-5-1.

This will give us midfield saturation and more chance of domination and industry culminating in more attacks on the Utd goal. Also the added plus to this will be the harder penatration, for Man U of our back four and so, keeping them fitter and more agile at the latter part of the game which will be needed since if we are 1-0 up then you can bet your mortgage that there will be at least 25 mins injury time added on.

If this works out as I would hope, and say all was even, (0-0, 1-1) come the 70th minute then revert to a 4-4-2 and give JV and Gosling a run out.

To me which ever way we look at it it?s Utd that have everything to lose... And I still hate the bbc!!

COYB
Tony Connor
15   Posted 17/04/2009 at 18:51:22

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Iain ? I agree that Manure were going through a bit of a wobble at that time and seemed easily rattled but weren?t one or both of Vidic and Ferdinand absent from the latter games?

I think that if those two play (and as a result Manure are that much stronger at the back) then Moyes will play it cagey and try to pinch one.

My dream scenario... Phil Neville with a 25-yard piledriver in the 89th minute to win it for the Blues :-)

COYB
Ped Pearl
16   Posted 17/04/2009 at 19:42:23

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While the starting line-up is obvious (or so we all think) it?s the subs bench that is interesting me.
Not only do I want to see Van der Meyde on the bench, I also want to see Moyes show him a bit of faith and use him in the second half no matter what the score is. He is the only player we have that offers something unpredictable.
Franny Porter
17   Posted 17/04/2009 at 20:29:26

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James Boden, some of us have better things to do than read ?your article?, but to satisfy my curiosity, who is your weak link?

Mine is Tim Howard I'm afraid...
Jason Broome
18   Posted 17/04/2009 at 20:26:34

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Thanks to a constant pounding from itv advertisements - cup fevers got me! Whoever Moyes plays on sunday has to give it everything from the first to the last. Manchester United are the highest grade. Beat them and the cup is ours!
Jason Broome
19   Posted 17/04/2009 at 20:36:53

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Biggest game in 14 years and we are slagging off our own!? What’s this shit about ’weak links?’ Why are we trying to take our own legs. Planting shit in players minds will not positively influence anything! Have the faith to know that our boys can deliver when challenged!
Tom Bowers
20   Posted 17/04/2009 at 20:48:32

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Without a doubt a defensive formation. We cannot allow the freescoring Manure players the freedom of Wembley. Cahill will be the front man with 5 across midfield.

Saha looks unlikely to play and Vaughan could only be a sub. It will likely be a low soring game because of this, like the recent league game and like 1966, the longer it goes without them scoring the better chance we have.

Gerry Western
21   Posted 17/04/2009 at 21:06:02

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I doubt that many will disagree over the starting eleven, what will be interesting is how they line up. To go with 4-4-2 with Osman out wide would be suicidal after the second half showing from last week. I?m no statistician, however I did read recently that we have scored more goals from crosses than any other team in the Premier League this term. Not surprising really when you consider the impact of Cahill and the recent return to form of Fellaini. If there?s anyone capable of upsetting Ferdinand and Vidic it?s surely those two.

It does make one wonder what might have been if we had a quality wide player on the right. For that reason I?d give Van der Meyde a place on the bench he?s certainly capable of getting in a cross or two and if we can get quality balls to Fellaini or Cahill from wide areas we could give them a torrid time.

Starting line up for me has to be 4-5-1. A lot has been spoken of late regarding Osman; if he does start, which I?m sure he will, I?d like nothing better than to see him put in an outstanding performance. Equally, I do hope that, should he fail to deliver, that Moyes has the courage to change things. Still haven?t got a ticket but I?ll be outside Wembley all the same. COYB!

Keith Glazzard
22   Posted 17/04/2009 at 21:44:44

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Well lads, all we can hope for is that David Moyes will pick the team for Sunday rather than us.
Paul Connell
23   Posted 17/04/2009 at 21:39:55

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I keep reading this critisism obout Osman being a weak link and not a winger. I don't believe he was sent out last Sunday to be a winger. I dont believe as some claim we have been playing 4-4-2 or 4-5-1.

If you look at how Everton have played the team set up as 4-1-3-1-1. The point being we have Neville protecting the back 4 and 3 narrow midfielders with Pienaar and Osman either side of Cahill. To my mind these 3 are the best footballers we have fit.

It worked well on Sunday; some of the interchange and fluency was the best so far this season, even with Arteta fit. The reason for this was balance. Cahill give us much needed bite in the centre. Ossie and Pienaar ensure we keep it on the ground and provided movement. Width in the main is provided by the fullbacks.

Screech is a great focal point. To my mind, he is too slow and does not read the game well enough to play deeper. In his role behind the striker he is a massive presence and links the play as well as anyone in the league. There has has been some debate about what postion is. IMO he more of a striker than midfielder even if he doesn't realise it himself.

All the above are vital to Everton playing progressive attacking football and having any chance of creating goals against the Mancs. If you take out Osman, you lose that balance. If anyone can't see this based on the last 2 performances they are shortsighted IMO.

Craig Taylor
24   Posted 17/04/2009 at 22:24:39

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I think I agree with the majority. Saha in for Jo if he is well enough... otherwise Jack into midfield. That said, I still wouldn?t be suprised if Vaughan got a start.

I think the important thing is how we deal with their drifting attacking midfielder/striker. Be it Rooney or Ronaldo, Pip should stick to him like glue and and kick him a few times which will frustrate them.

Good luck to the boys!
Alex Kociuba
25   Posted 17/04/2009 at 22:31:56

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I can?t remember where I saw this or who told me, but I think James Vaughan was the first player to score a winning goal at the new Wembley.

Would be nice seeing him come on for the last 5-10 mins though.
Alex Kociuba
26   Posted 17/04/2009 at 22:48:26

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There’s a few of us going to London for the weekend, there’s a couple of lads without tickets, is there likely to be a big screen with it on anywhere? Or is there any ’known’ locations/boozers that anyone knows of within say a mile of Wembley? Or is there pubs and screeens everywhere?
Harry Reynalds
27   Posted 17/04/2009 at 23:48:31

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In other news

Looks like rooneys out

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ football/premier_league/manchester_united/article6116738.ece

hooray
Jimmy Crack
28   Posted 18/04/2009 at 00:07:48

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Alex:

I believe you’re talking about Jack Rodwell, for the England U-16s
Stephen Graham
29   Posted 18/04/2009 at 01:35:35

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The BBC listed our selection as this - take a look at the order, which looks to suggest the first 11 will form the team and rest as subs:

Everton (from): Howard, Hibbert, Lescott, Jagielka, Baines, Osman, Pienaar, Neville, Rodwell, Fellaini, Cahill, Yobo, Saha, Vaughan, Nash, Gosling, Jacobsen, Van der Meyde, Castillo, Baxter.

Maybe Moysie’s playing with Fergie’s head ( as if ...), and Saha will start, stomach bug be damned.
Peter Roberts
30   Posted 18/04/2009 at 11:41:40

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Meg, the only thing mystic about that prediction was how Ronaldo scores to make it 2-0 to us, and also when United score their third.

Not so much Myst-ic as Myst-it.
Dave Tay
31   Posted 18/04/2009 at 13:36:47

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Rooney deffo out..... Man U ?weakened? team.... not sure how weak tho!?
Rob Davis
32   Posted 18/04/2009 at 14:12:53

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Why are some of you slagging our players? They got us this far even with injuries in the squad.I bet the team are pleased some of you think there poor players.
Tom Brown
33   Posted 18/04/2009 at 16:22:46

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Said it on a different thread. Here again...

Appreciate that different fans have different views of players abilities but fans calling any of the current first team "clowns" is something I don?t understand. Why the need to insult our own players?

The rangers pair are clowns. Barton is a clown. Our fans who call our players clowns are clowns.

Our first team might not all be up to standard but they have done nothing to deserve insults.
James Boden
34   Posted 18/04/2009 at 16:32:13

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Ok thank you, Tom, you don?t need to remind me of what I said about Osma. I called him a clown, so what? There are far worse things I could have said. Get a grip and accept that I have that opinion of him. As I have said a few times now, if he has a blinder tomorrow I will apologise straight away. But I sadly do not expect to be saying sorry to anyone.
John Kelly
35   Posted 18/04/2009 at 17:05:44

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When some of our "supporters" have the knives our for any individual player, do they actually think it helps said player's confidence to listen to the insults directed at them? Does the abject abuse directed at one or two of them actually help them play better, feel like giving it their all? Or could the abuse actually affect their confidence and make them play worse?

We?ve all heard the odd one that sits around us, that have their personal whipping boy in a blue shirt. To these "supporters" I would say at least for one game leave it at home. Get behind the lads tomorrow and lets lift them instead of knocking them. "Clowns" are something we do not have tomorrow.

Tomorrow we have eleven Everton players that deserve our support for getting us as far as they have. I?m taking my lad tomorrow and although he?s only seen about 15 games in total, he?s never seen us lose. Lets hope it's a memorable day and his record stays intact.
C?mon you mighty Blues (all of you).

Michael Kenrick
36   Posted 18/04/2009 at 18:38:17

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Think I’ve got to agree with Tom here and draw a line under this silliness. If you don’t think a player is pulling his weight, there are plenty of ways of saying that without resorting to calling him a clown.

So please, think twice about the adjectives you are going to use before you describe our players: they may be a lot of things but none of them fit the descriptive "clown".
James Boden
37   Posted 18/04/2009 at 20:03:18

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So If I cannot call Osman or anyone else for that matter a clown then what can I call him? I hope he shoves these words down my throat and as I have said many times I will be 1st to apologise if he proves me wrong tommorow. See you at Wembley.
COYB FUCK THEM MANC CUNTS

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