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Everton... just for scousers?

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Just read Alec Laurie`s comments on "Team for Sunday" , where he quoted Norwegian supporters in Liverpool shirts as this was a negative thing for the club. I know this man is a god at Everton and far be it that I should criticize his wisdom , but this really was below the belt, Tim.

I have lived in Norway the last 30 years and have supported the blues through thick and thin. Of course we don't get a chance to see games at Goodison that often, but I can assure you that every Everton supporter does not live in Liverpool. In fact there is coach load of Everton fans (yes... from Norway) on the way to the game against Spurs on 9th May, and I can assure you that they will be wearing Everton shirts and getting behind their team just as well as any scouser.

Unfortunately, most Norwegian kids won't believe you when you tell them that you support a team other than Liverpool or United and we do our best to open their eyes. Our greatest night this season was when we stuffed the Reds in the cup... four of us (in Everton shirts) and at least 70 Liverpool supporters. My god, what a night! You wouldn't believe how much noise we made... lovely.

I know that there is a lot of banter about Liverpool's foriegn supporters, but don't let us have "tunnel vision" and believe that every Everton fan lives there. I say give your foriegn fans a great welcome ...an Everton supporter is an Everton supporter... or what?
Tony  Cheek, Huagesund, Norway     Posted 18/04/2009 at 05:22:42

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John Kelly
1   Posted 18/04/2009 at 16:54:21

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Agreed, Tony ? any Evertonian has to be commended for their choice of team, wherever they come from. But I have to say, and I?m sure that you can confirm this, that OUR Norwegians are worth more and are better than any kopite Norwegian.

One coach load of our Norwegian (or anywhere else for that matter) fans is worth twenty of the kopite variety. Keep the faith and let's have a great win for the Blue Boys tomorrow.

Daniel Williamson
2   Posted 18/04/2009 at 17:02:01

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I think the point is that if you support Everton then somewhere there is a link back to scouse roots. We don't have supporters that wake up one day an think, "Oh I'll support Everton! It's usually due to family passing on values.

I'd say that a good 95% of Everton fans have some sort of roots that would take them or their family back to Liverpool or the surrounding area. The thing about shite supporters being Scandanvian is because their money grabbin "club" would rather have a Norwegian travel club have tickets instead of people from the city all because they come over, buy 10 replica shirts, scarfs, matchday programs etc. Personally I'd rather have no fans at Everton than 30,000 fans who can't sing "It's a Grand Old Team to Play for..... Anyways, let's forget about this! We've got a fucking final to get to!! COYB!!!!!!

Chris Matty
3   Posted 18/04/2009 at 18:16:17

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I welcome all supporters from across the globe, and let?s be honest, I welcome the financial support they bring too. Maybe it is because I am biased but I also suggest there is a qualitative difference between Norwegian Blues and Norwegian RS.

Because we don?t get the coverage that RS, Manu etc get, there can be little suggestion that our Scandinavian (or other foreign) support is based on glory hunting. It is a real, genuine support. It gives our overseas following an authenticity and a depth that Rich 4 teams cannot claim.

So welcome to your Norwegian fellows Tony: if they have chosen and stuck with Everton then there is likely to have been a good reason for it, and we should celebrate their involvement.
Alan Clarke
4   Posted 18/04/2009 at 18:37:22

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I’m glad you’re an Evertonian but it is a running joke about RS fans being from Norway.

In fact, Brann fans started chanting RS songs at us last season!
Andy Morden
5   Posted 18/04/2009 at 18:50:18

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Daniel Willaimson - actually there are fans who wake up suddenly decide to support Everton. I have no idea why I support Everton. I’m from the Midlands originally and my family are all Wolves fans. I just grew up following the toffees. My mate is from Essex / London and he is also a toffee. He is a former season ticket holder (think finances prevent him from doing so these days) and he has absolutley no idea why he supports Everton. His family are all West Ham fans. Some may think that odd, but hey, it is the way it goes!

Either way, scouse or not, lets all get behind the boys tomorrow!
Gerry Western
6   Posted 18/04/2009 at 19:07:23

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Good post Tony, I?m not a scouser myself but I do have relatives and friends there. I was pleasantly surprised to see many Scandinavian Blues at a Fulham away game not so long ago. I don?t think the jibes are aimed at Norwegians per say. Its more a case of fair weather friends. It?s perhaps seen as fashionable to be seen to be supporting one of the Sky four, particularly the neighbours across the park. Of course Everton do not get the exposure of these clubs and for this reason I think they tend to attract a more genuine fan base wherever they may come from. Everton fans havn?t had a lot to shout about since the advent of the premier league and the fact we do have a growing number of fans from outside the city is testament to the genuine affection for the club. 1 is worth 20 for sure.
Roger Osborne
7   Posted 18/04/2009 at 19:09:54

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Damn right. This has been brought up previously on here, and if you support the club then location may well be irrelevant.

Just for the record, I was born and raised in Aberdeen, before incidentally Ferguson made the Dons into a great side and breaking the monopoly of the Old Firm towards the end of the 1970’s. Followed the blues for many a year, seen more desperate times than good ones in all honesty, but when the going got tough never thought for one moment in breaking my Everton loyalties, even when it nearly reached rock bottom in those last weeks leading up to the Wimbledon game. I’m wearing the shirt right now as we speak (type even), and looking forward to tomorrow, will be Everton until I draw my last breath, hopefully not for some time to come!
Chris Stubbs
8   Posted 18/04/2009 at 18:36:17

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I have supported Everton since 1970. I was born in Liverpool and still call it home. I have supported the team from afar since 1983. I was living in Honolulu during the glorious 80s. I returned to UK in 1989, but left again in 1993 for Hong Kong. In 1996, I moved to Sydney. I am now back in UK, after spending recent years in Korea and Taiwan. Has my support ever waivered? No, never.

The Premier League has gone global since I first left UK. Everton has a loyal support base in Australia. This is growing as a result of Tim Cahill. The supporters in Sydney used to be those who had links (like me) with Merseyside. Recently, the group is now including more born and bred Aussies. If the Club ever signs a top quality Korean player, you can expect to see Everton shirts on sale and being worn by Koreans in Seoul. The fact that Everton’s global support is growing is encouraging. However, a lot more should be done to promote the brand abroad. I think our loyal supporters overseas can (and many times do) promote the name and the Everton brand. It would do tremendous harm to our overseas support if there was a perception that only those born in Merseyside were true supporters.

The Club made the mistake of missing out on the hype when the Premier League started. As supporters, we should not do the same now, especially now as we appear to be on the brink of success.

Incidentally, the last time I moved to UK in 1989 was just a week before semi-final day. I came back in 2009, one week before semi-final day. This time, unlike last time, I have a ticket.
David Brown
9   Posted 18/04/2009 at 21:00:24

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Born and bred in Cardiff and I have supported Everton all my life. Have spent thousands over the years travelling up to Goodison to support my beloved team. For the past seven years I have played rugby on a Saturday and so have not been going, but injury has forced me to retire and I will be buying a season ticket and travelling the 300-odd mile round trip every other week next season. There are stacks of Everton fans in South Wales (ten in my old rugby team alone) and I honestly don?t think that it matters where you are from.
Geoff Edwards
10   Posted 18/04/2009 at 21:42:55

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I live in Germany now and grew up down south near Brighton. I have absolutely no family collections with the city of Liverpool. You might say I woke up one morning (in 1986, at the age of 6) supporting the Blues, or you might say I was chosen. I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve been scoffed at by my fellow southerners for supporting Everton.

They don’t understand, they don’t matter.

I get goose bumps when I set foot inside GP, or even see it on telly. Z-Cars makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end. I watch Youtube footage of Wayne Rooney in an Everton shirt and think "Wayne, you could’ve had it all but you threw it away".

I guess I am less of an Evertonian than local Blues but that doesn’t matter. My heart is still Blue.

People here in Germany will be getting the game live tomorrow, no doubt expecting Man U to win. Let’s show them what we’re about.

COYB!!
David Catton
11   Posted 18/04/2009 at 22:15:08

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I am from Liverpool originally, currently in Oz, and support Everton because my dad does. And because his dad does. And because HE assures me that his dad did.

So I?m a couple of generations along fan, but that makes me no more or less impressive than any other Blue. If you support, Everton it?s because you get it. You understand.

I have more admiration for Evertonians from outside the city than those inside it actually. They didn?t have their father or brother or uncle to help them understand. They figured it out for themselves.

It?s because our story is unmatched by any others. It?s of quality, both with and against the odds. It?s Dixie Dean, the School of Science, World Cup semi-finals, a Holy Trinity, a man so good they nicknamed him "The Golden Vision" and a team that swept all before it and through no fault of its own was not allowed to compete for the game's highest honours.

It?s of last-day escapes, and struggles with the chairman, and then an era of rebuilding under a Scottish disciplinarian. It?s of losing a born blue for £27M and buying a Samoan-Australian one for about a twentieth of that. And it?s of a cup semi-final with the red scum, today.

Periods of success are like buses for Evertonians. Just about when you?ve given up hope on one coming along... COYB.

Phil Bellis
12   Posted 19/04/2009 at 00:47:12

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"One Evertonian is worth twenty Liverpudlians"
Brian Labone

He wasn’t bothered where you came from/..neither are the Everton Family

This will be my 12th semi

God bless all Blues

Give’ em Hell
James Bernard
13   Posted 19/04/2009 at 03:44:34

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David Catton, I think you just summed up what it means to be an Evertonian and the Everton story in one post. At the end of the day, if you pick Everton as your team to support, you have made a wise choice, no matter where you are from.
Derek Thomas
14   Posted 19/04/2009 at 06:51:39

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Lighten up Tony, the Scandinavian and / or Surrey RS supporter is a standing joke...and not without more than a grain or two of truth.

Any digs at RS supporters is aimed at the Red Shite-ness off them not the Norwegien-ness of them.

No dig at the RS is wasted, if they complain, well just pour it on more.

I have coached the wife, who in her job gets out and about. The ?non-scouse expat RS? seem to be everywhere and when the accent provoked a football comment (in-front of a dozen or so), Wife: "No, I support Everton." Big gobbed RS: "Well I support, the Reds." Wife (well coached in the perfectly rehersed ad-lib): "Funny, you don?t LOOK Norwegian..." Exit one RS rendered speechless.
Richard Parker
15   Posted 19/04/2009 at 07:33:23

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I?m from the East Midlands and have supported the blues for 25 years, since I was 5 years old. It is probably because I happened to be that age at the time when Everton were a top side.

I haven?t managed to get to Goodison as often as I?d like. Distance and cash have been the decisive factors, but I was there to see them lift the Division 1 trophy in 1987 following a win over Luton. I?ve been back a handful of times since and have never seen them lose when I?ve been there. So I really need to make more of an effort!!!

Unfortunately I now live in France and work in Saudi....... but unlike the fat little knobhead, I truly believe that "Once a blue, always a blue" is absolutely true.

I had the privelige of an evening with Duncan McKenzie, supposed Leeds legend, and he is blue through and through. He told me that once you?ve been a part of Everton, you just can?t get it out of your system.

However bad things may have got for our lot in the past, at least I?m not a Scandinavian red!!
Stephen Stuart
16   Posted 19/04/2009 at 10:31:08

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There are many on here who view anybody who doesn?t worship at the altar of David Moyes isn?t an Evertonian, never mind being Norwegian as well!
Tom Campbell
17   Posted 19/04/2009 at 11:00:08

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Don.t forget us Irish Evertonians!
John Dybvad
18   Posted 19/04/2009 at 12:12:37

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The problem with the amount United and Liverpool supporters living abroad is that the huge majority of them support either club because they deem those successful. I?m in Denmark, and the amount of kids and adults that profess to be Liverpool supporters is actually quite staggering. The local club, Aalborg, doesn?t get a look in where many of them are concerned. The reason why this is the case is that Aalborg are rubbish by European standards.

Basically, these people only want to attach their support to what they are perceive as the best. So sod ?em, let them pathetically be spoon-fed their football by satellite TV. It?s nice that people love the English game, but that many are only interested in two teams, is a sad indictment of the those individuals.

Oh yeah, and I?ve not met a single person that supports Everton, although a couple of people have had nice things to say about us.

Mick Kelly
19   Posted 19/04/2009 at 13:42:42

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Tony, nice one. I live in Oslo, Norway; when we beat them in the quarters, I was at Andy?s bar in my Everton beanie and shirt got a load of abuse from mainly ex-pats. The Norwegians reds where OK.

It is incredible how confused the Norwegians get when you are a scouse and a blue. They do not comprehend it. I bought a Norwegian Kopite the Everton DVD for Xmas that charts Everton?s past history and pointing out we are older and better supported in Liverpool than across the park! It has done the rounds of the office!

The only thing that annoys me with Norwegian supporters is I cannot get a flight home when Liverpool have a big match... :-(

Where do the Everton crowd hang out in Oslo???
Mark Leyland
20   Posted 19/04/2009 at 14:08:18

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Mick. The Oslo Evertonians meet at The Belfry. Its only about 150m from Andy’s across Karl Johan in Lille Grensen.
Vasco Teixeira
21   Posted 19/04/2009 at 15:59:42

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39 Years. Portuguese Evertonian. No familly in Liverpool. Nothing to link me with Liverpool and surround areas. Even so, I became an Evertonian. I have been a supporter of EFC for more than 20 years. My son, already is a blue.

Why I became a blue? Fascinated with the team that won the Cup winners Cup against Rapid. I?ve been watching football for many years. Still that team was one of the best ever I have seen.

Then there was the click... knowing our history, our past, and was love... still is. Everyday I watch for Everton news everywhere... And i was fortunate enough to watch some games at Goodison Park.

EFC Forever. We?re Special.


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