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Get your pen's out and your typing fingers at the ready, that is if you are a Season Ticket holder.
STH's can apply to the club for a Cup Final ticket, but you may miss out as there are not enough tickets to go round. You may have to wait until as late as the 18th May to get your mits on the precious article.
I suppose its probably the fairest way, but it also means a lot of nervous checking of your e-mails on an hourly basis.
Anthony Dyer, Posted 27/04/2009 at 11:10:47
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Tony, Shareholders, staff / players, have probably all had a dip. Likelihood is that they were restricted to the most expensive tickets.
Tony: I think that’s just because most of the tickets are in that price bracket. If you look at the Wembley seating plan you’ll see that the £78 ones are basically everything lower tier behind the goal and the £58 ones are upper tier behind the goal, where as the £34 ones are the ones right up in the gods and the £93 ones are at the side, i.e. there are fewer of them.
To be honest this has annoyed me. I’m a STH with 7 away Prem creds, plus the semi final and Liverpool away in the cup, so I find it annoying that I have to go into a ballot. Why don’t they just sell them the normal way, i.e. have a two day window for STH + 10, 2 days for STH + 8, 2 days for STH + 6 etc etc and then if there are any left go down to the supporters who are just STH with no extra creds. It seems crazy to me that there will be fans out there who have loads of creds who can’t just buy one, they have to trust that the club won’t mess up their application by forgetting to put them in the draw, or putting them in the pile with people who have no creds etc. Crazy.
Surely the way the club are doing it means a lot more admin for them as well, as they can’t just issue tickets to fans who have enough creds, they have to wait and then go through a laborious process of drawing names out of a hat?
To be honest this has annoyed me. I’m a STH with 7 away Prem creds, plus the semi final and Liverpool away in the cup, so I find it annoying that I have to go into a ballot. Why don’t they just sell them the normal way, i.e. have a two day window for STH + 10, 2 days for STH + 8, 2 days for STH + 6 etc etc and then if there are any left go down to the supporters who are just STH with no extra creds. It seems crazy to me that there will be fans out there who have loads of creds who can’t just buy one, they have to trust that the club won’t mess up their application by forgetting to put them in the draw, or putting them in the pile with people who have no creds etc. Crazy.
Surely the way the club are doing it means a lot more admin for them as well, as they can’t just issue tickets to fans who have enough creds, they have to wait and then go through a laborious process of drawing names out of a hat?
The Club have been put in this position by the FA. As as season ticket holder in the Isle of Man I have no additional credits so will be one of the ones in the pot; so with flights and accom already booked I am as anxious as the next man to get the tickets. Failing which we should designate a London pub to descend upon for the unlucky one.....
Tim, reading the OS, with your criteria you are not in a ballot - you will get a ticket.
Reading it, it looks as though anyone with 3 or more additional matches will get a ticket.
With those who have a higher purchase history getting "served" first.
If there are any tickets left, then they will be put into a ballot.
Reading it, it looks as though anyone with 3 or more additional matches will get a ticket.
With those who have a higher purchase history getting "served" first.
If there are any tickets left, then they will be put into a ballot.
Stephen: on second reading of the OS you’re right - it does say that the club WILL give you a ticket if you have 3 + creds. Even still, it does beg the question of why they haven’t just done it the normal way with away matches......
Tim, What makes you think that you will be in a ballot?
My understanding of the announcement is that STH with 3 or more credits will be getting a ticket. You seem to qualify comfortably. The difference this time is that they are not letting people come to the box office to buy tickets so getting a lot of seats together (there are 13 of us) may be a bit more of a problem.
I know that you can apply for more than one by post or on the internet but in theses circumstances I would prefer to deal face-to-face.
My understanding of the announcement is that STH with 3 or more credits will be getting a ticket. You seem to qualify comfortably. The difference this time is that they are not letting people come to the box office to buy tickets so getting a lot of seats together (there are 13 of us) may be a bit more of a problem.
I know that you can apply for more than one by post or on the internet but in theses circumstances I would prefer to deal face-to-face.
A few points:
On the OS it states the majority will be £78 and £58, which if you look at the plan is true! There appear to be far more in these catagories:
http://chelsea2.chelseafc.com/temp/Cup%20Final%20pricing%202009.pdf
It is hard to see if the club are doing it the right way or not as it is a bit vague/contradictory what it says on the OS. They may well be accepting applications from the group of 3+ games and Auto Cup Scheme members, but it is not clear if they will allocate based on purchase history, i.e. the more +’s you have the more chance of getting your first choice seats, then working down which would make sense); or if everyone who meet the criteria will get one and it is just pot luck as to when you are allocated yours. I have about 18+’s and am on the auto home scheme so will be pretty annoyed if I don’t get my first choice! If it is the first and it is based on the purchase history it is probably the best way to do it to prevent another slating for the long queues and waiting hours/being cut-off on the phone.
On the OS it states the majority will be £78 and £58, which if you look at the plan is true! There appear to be far more in these catagories:
http://chelsea2.chelseafc.com/temp/Cup%20Final%20pricing%202009.pdf
It is hard to see if the club are doing it the right way or not as it is a bit vague/contradictory what it says on the OS. They may well be accepting applications from the group of 3+ games and Auto Cup Scheme members, but it is not clear if they will allocate based on purchase history, i.e. the more +’s you have the more chance of getting your first choice seats, then working down which would make sense); or if everyone who meet the criteria will get one and it is just pot luck as to when you are allocated yours. I have about 18+’s and am on the auto home scheme so will be pretty annoyed if I don’t get my first choice! If it is the first and it is based on the purchase history it is probably the best way to do it to prevent another slating for the long queues and waiting hours/being cut-off on the phone.
Does anyone know if you can include/credit the semi final ticket as part of your application along with the other cup matches?
@ Peter Blundell
Nope, the semi doesn’t count towards the extra credits. Their is a list of games that apply under the FAQ section and that game isn’t one of them. I rang up to check as a mate only has 3 credits with that game and I was told it doesn’t count. When I asked why I was told it was decision that had been taken.
Nope, the semi doesn’t count towards the extra credits. Their is a list of games that apply under the FAQ section and that game isn’t one of them. I rang up to check as a mate only has 3 credits with that game and I was told it doesn’t count. When I asked why I was told it was decision that had been taken.
I should imagine so Peter, as it was credited against your season ticket
Oh to be one of the football family........ how do you apply for that?????
I’ve had the website up all day, refreshing it every half hour or so. I think I first saw the allocation arrangements about 12.45pm. Just looked again after reading these posts and it has changed since then although I think it’s only in terms of clarification.
The impression I got first time around was that they were only talking about +games in the cup campaign. There was no mention then of away games or the Eufa Cup game. I think they have had a rethink or they got it wrong first time.
It still does say however the every Season Ticket Holder with 3+ additional games WILL BE ALLOCATED A CUP FINAL TICKET.
I think the problems will arise when the likes of me and my mate (and others in a similar situation) who have 6+ games may find it difficult to get seats together by the time the allocation process gets to us.
Never mind though, unless it changes again, it looks like we will get one!
The impression I got first time around was that they were only talking about +games in the cup campaign. There was no mention then of away games or the Eufa Cup game. I think they have had a rethink or they got it wrong first time.
It still does say however the every Season Ticket Holder with 3+ additional games WILL BE ALLOCATED A CUP FINAL TICKET.
I think the problems will arise when the likes of me and my mate (and others in a similar situation) who have 6+ games may find it difficult to get seats together by the time the allocation process gets to us.
Never mind though, unless it changes again, it looks like we will get one!
@Anthony Whitley
It is based on purchase history. "Tickets will be allocated to those STHs with the highest purchase history from the current campaign.". Sounds as though the Club will take all applications up to 5pm May 6th and then start working through them based on the purchase history. So those with a higher purchase history will be served first.
@Dave Roberts
6+ games is above the average isn’t it? Don’t think you’ll have a problem.
Think the Club have done a good job in ensuring there isn’t a mass panic to queue by giving us a week to tell them we want a ticket. Saved a days holiday!!
It is based on purchase history. "Tickets will be allocated to those STHs with the highest purchase history from the current campaign.". Sounds as though the Club will take all applications up to 5pm May 6th and then start working through them based on the purchase history. So those with a higher purchase history will be served first.
@Dave Roberts
6+ games is above the average isn’t it? Don’t think you’ll have a problem.
Think the Club have done a good job in ensuring there isn’t a mass panic to queue by giving us a week to tell them we want a ticket. Saved a days holiday!!
Which games are included in the sales history?
? All home and away UEFA and FA Cup games, the away Carling Cup game and away Premier League games. For the avoidance of doubt these include:
? UEFA Cup: Standard Liege (home and away).
? FA Cup: Macclesfield Town (away), Liverpool (home and away), Aston Villa (home) and Middlesbrough (home).
? Carling Cup: Blackburn Rovers (away).
Criteria for eligible games to be counted, nothing on the Semi though?
? All home and away UEFA and FA Cup games, the away Carling Cup game and away Premier League games. For the avoidance of doubt these include:
? UEFA Cup: Standard Liege (home and away).
? FA Cup: Macclesfield Town (away), Liverpool (home and away), Aston Villa (home) and Middlesbrough (home).
? Carling Cup: Blackburn Rovers (away).
Criteria for eligible games to be counted, nothing on the Semi though?
Stephen Saunders
No, I don’t think that is right.
It definitely says on the OS that all STHs with 3 or more additional games WILL be allocated a Cup Final ticket.
The purchase history only counts (I think) with regard to the order in which tickets are allocated ie. anybody with 7+ additional games would have more chance of getting their preference than I would (6+)
Unless it changes again.
No, I don’t think that is right.
It definitely says on the OS that all STHs with 3 or more additional games WILL be allocated a Cup Final ticket.
The purchase history only counts (I think) with regard to the order in which tickets are allocated ie. anybody with 7+ additional games would have more chance of getting their preference than I would (6+)
Unless it changes again.
Is it me going Loopy or did anybody else notice that the arrangements on the Official Site had changed?
I notice from Tim Wardrop’s post above that it seems he didn’t see any reference to away games either.
Seems to me that somebody at the Club cocked up first time around and somebody has put it right/changed it!
I notice from Tim Wardrop’s post above that it seems he didn’t see any reference to away games either.
Seems to me that somebody at the Club cocked up first time around and somebody has put it right/changed it!
Dave - I think people (including me) are getting in a bit of a panic here when they probably shouldn’t be. The fact is that there are 25,000 tickets available and I think we have about 28,000 (ish) STH. That basically means that the chances are very high that you will get a ticket if you are a STH, especially when you consider that there are probably some STH who won’t be able to make it and therefore might not bother applying.
I guess the reason why the club have set the 3+ credits level is because they’ve worked out that the number of supporters with 3+ credits is less than 25,000, so all of them will definitely be able to get one and then the club will just see how many are left over and distribute them accordingly, based on all the other applications.
I guess the reason why the club have set the 3+ credits level is because they’ve worked out that the number of supporters with 3+ credits is less than 25,000, so all of them will definitely be able to get one and then the club will just see how many are left over and distribute them accordingly, based on all the other applications.
I wasn’t going to do this, but it’s just bugging me....
I fear I could be one of those overlooked people for whome this (admittedly sensible) system screws over.
I’m a STH, living in London - travel up to every home game (spending shitloads of money in the process) and have actually been to 4 away games and one home cup game (in addition to the semi). Only problem is, for all but 2 of those games I got my ticket via ESCLA (London area supporters club), so they don’t count, and as far as the club is concerned I only have 2+ games, and am therefore in the ballot.
Get your ticket from ESCLA you may think? ESCLA are only giving their very limited number of tickets to those who regularly buy home tickets through them (there wouldn’t be enough for all the STHs who regularly travel with them).
So looks like I’m pretty screwed. Balls.
And I can’t even apply for tickets alongside the people I normally go the game with - they all have at least 3+, and it seems that if they put in an application with me, they are only considered once tickets go down to supporters with 2+ tickets. Once again, BALLS!
That was cathartic. Thank you for reading....
I fear I could be one of those overlooked people for whome this (admittedly sensible) system screws over.
I’m a STH, living in London - travel up to every home game (spending shitloads of money in the process) and have actually been to 4 away games and one home cup game (in addition to the semi). Only problem is, for all but 2 of those games I got my ticket via ESCLA (London area supporters club), so they don’t count, and as far as the club is concerned I only have 2+ games, and am therefore in the ballot.
Get your ticket from ESCLA you may think? ESCLA are only giving their very limited number of tickets to those who regularly buy home tickets through them (there wouldn’t be enough for all the STHs who regularly travel with them).
So looks like I’m pretty screwed. Balls.
And I can’t even apply for tickets alongside the people I normally go the game with - they all have at least 3+, and it seems that if they put in an application with me, they are only considered once tickets go down to supporters with 2+ tickets. Once again, BALLS!
That was cathartic. Thank you for reading....
My mates just got two on the FA website £250 in some part with free ale.
Tim or anyone, who said we had 28,000 season ticket holders?
We only sold 23,000 for the start of the season so does that mean 5,000 half season tickets? if so then surely everyone with a full season ticket should get one, although do shareholders get more?
We only sold 23,000 for the start of the season so does that mean 5,000 half season tickets? if so then surely everyone with a full season ticket should get one, although do shareholders get more?
I have it on good authority that more than 7000 of our allocation has already gone to corporates, staff, players, shareholders and sponsors. Thats why only season ticket holders with three or more additional games (15800) are guaranteed tickets. After that there will be about 2500 tickets for the 5000 or so people in the ballot.
Michael Fernandez
Sorry to hear about your situation. There but for the grace of God.....!
There are four us who go to the match together. Two with ST’s in the Main stand and the mate and I in the Park End. The reason for this is historical and has been this way for 6 years.
When ’additional’ games came around, however, we always took the opportunty to sit together so we just got four seats together, wherever we could get them (usually in the Lower Bullens where they are usually available) We’ve done that for years but it didn’t happen too often as we were always out of the Cups early on!
One of the lads from the Main Stand gave his season ticket up last year when he had his fourth kid and the other lad with him gave up his in sympathy and they both attended games wherever, as and when.
As a result, it is only this season we have started actvating our season tickets in the Park End for Cup games and Europe. If we had carried on buying tickets willy nilly as we have in the past we would have been in the same pickle as you although on the face of it, like you, we have attended the games.
That’s a lesson well learned for me, in future evrything goes on my my season ticket and/or my cutomer number.
I hope you touch lucky mate.
Sorry to hear about your situation. There but for the grace of God.....!
There are four us who go to the match together. Two with ST’s in the Main stand and the mate and I in the Park End. The reason for this is historical and has been this way for 6 years.
When ’additional’ games came around, however, we always took the opportunty to sit together so we just got four seats together, wherever we could get them (usually in the Lower Bullens where they are usually available) We’ve done that for years but it didn’t happen too often as we were always out of the Cups early on!
One of the lads from the Main Stand gave his season ticket up last year when he had his fourth kid and the other lad with him gave up his in sympathy and they both attended games wherever, as and when.
As a result, it is only this season we have started actvating our season tickets in the Park End for Cup games and Europe. If we had carried on buying tickets willy nilly as we have in the past we would have been in the same pickle as you although on the face of it, like you, we have attended the games.
That’s a lesson well learned for me, in future evrything goes on my my season ticket and/or my cutomer number.
I hope you touch lucky mate.
Noel K - dont know where you get your good authority info from but I am a shareholder and season ticket holder and so far have no tickets like everyone else.
There is no way that me, an Everton fanatic of over 40 years will ever get a ticket for the final. I am vexed. Why? Because as I see it 25k goes to Everton, 25k goes to chelsea. AND 40 THOUSAND GOES TO THE FRIENDS OF THE FA!!! The dirty bastards. What's all that about, yer know, telling us about ticket touts and forgeries.
Well it?s you scumbags at the FA who are to blame with your "prawn sandwich" brigade.
For me I?d like all Everton and Chelsea fans to say NO, we're not going to your little soire. Imagine what the stadium would look like at the beginning of the second half when the champagne and caviar set can't be bothered to go back to their seats, WHAT THAT would look like.
Something has to be done. Why not start now and have the name of Everton Football Club ringing in the Fuck All's ears for ever.
40 THOUSAND FRIENDS OF THE FA ? IT?S AN INSULT!!!
Well it?s you scumbags at the FA who are to blame with your "prawn sandwich" brigade.
For me I?d like all Everton and Chelsea fans to say NO, we're not going to your little soire. Imagine what the stadium would look like at the beginning of the second half when the champagne and caviar set can't be bothered to go back to their seats, WHAT THAT would look like.
Something has to be done. Why not start now and have the name of Everton Football Club ringing in the Fuck All's ears for ever.
40 THOUSAND FRIENDS OF THE FA ? IT?S AN INSULT!!!
John Cox,
It’s even worse than that mate! Google FA Cup Final Tickets and have a look at the websites that come up. One I looked at had £38 tickets on sale for £425. Club Wembley tickets are going for between £925 and £1200. Is that what Club Wembley is? Buy yourself a 10 year seat and sell on every ticket you get at a hefty profit?
Most of the 40,000 tickets given to the ’footbal family’ will be sold on in this way and there is no doubt in my mind that there will be more than 30,000 Evertonians in Wembley on the day. The problem is though, many of them will be lining the pockets of touts and ticket agencies to get there, all because of the short-sightedness and ineptitude of the FA. They are a disgrace.
It’s even worse than that mate! Google FA Cup Final Tickets and have a look at the websites that come up. One I looked at had £38 tickets on sale for £425. Club Wembley tickets are going for between £925 and £1200. Is that what Club Wembley is? Buy yourself a 10 year seat and sell on every ticket you get at a hefty profit?
Most of the 40,000 tickets given to the ’footbal family’ will be sold on in this way and there is no doubt in my mind that there will be more than 30,000 Evertonians in Wembley on the day. The problem is though, many of them will be lining the pockets of touts and ticket agencies to get there, all because of the short-sightedness and ineptitude of the FA. They are a disgrace.
John V ? when I say "already gone to shareholders" etc ? that's just for the purposes of the ticket office calculation. Nobody has actually received tickets yet. Trust me, it's from the top.
Another question, will a person who has only paid for a half season ticket and has three further games have priority over someone who paid for a full season ticket but does not have three extra games as credit?
If yes, I would not be a happy man if I was the full season ticket holder without the added games.
If yes, I would not be a happy man if I was the full season ticket holder without the added games.
Thanks Dave,
I can't believe that this establishment Bollox has the temerity to treat my fellow Everton supporters who deserve the cup final tickets far more than I do because I can't do the travel bit because of finance and distance.
But it just goes to show how these parasites of the REAL football family whether rs or Chelsea or Man U. get treated.
We, for all fans of all football clubs, need action. Just think how many of our kids will lose out after going all season to watch Everton because people who couldn?t give a shit about football are privileged (like they work in the "city") will get tickets and care nothing of the people who will do without.
I can't believe that this establishment Bollox has the temerity to treat my fellow Everton supporters who deserve the cup final tickets far more than I do because I can't do the travel bit because of finance and distance.
But it just goes to show how these parasites of the REAL football family whether rs or Chelsea or Man U. get treated.
We, for all fans of all football clubs, need action. Just think how many of our kids will lose out after going all season to watch Everton because people who couldn?t give a shit about football are privileged (like they work in the "city") will get tickets and care nothing of the people who will do without.
WE HAVE TO TELL OUR CLUBS THE WAY WE FEEL! I will be doing this very soon and, like a dog with a bone, if you are reading this, Mr Kenwright, then get used to my name because I will become the thorn in your side.
The People's Club??? One of the People's Club is now angry, you will in terms of correspondence get to know my name. I AM THE GHOST OF MINNIE CALDWELL!
Rant over!
You part-timers or cockney blues can't complain - if you don't qualify you don't qualify - get it?? You cant' say "I deserve a ticket more than....... It's a tough one but it's the FA cup final FFS - when Everton enter the competition, they know the deal as do we.
Just do what the reds do - get Setanta for the final week of the season, a bottle of Black Tower, tin of hot dogs and you won't know the difference - only you will be £300 up, in bed at a reasonable hour and not stuck on the M1.
Success has a price - and unfortunately for a lot of knobs on here that's a season ticket and three other games - not a lot for the real blues! COYB!!!!!
Noel, apologies if you are not referring to me, I am from Wirral, full season ticket holder with six bonus games. I was just wondering if half season ticket holders get the same chance as full season ticket holders, because I think it would be wrong.
Many people are angry, and rightly so, about the number of tickets the FA creams off for the football family... but Everton are guilty of this as well. Out of the 25,000 club allocation they cream off 1000s for sponsors, guests, players, ex-players, so the ST holders are left fighting it out for far less than the 25,000 quoted.
J Cox - what is your beef with EFC..? Sure the FA have got a lot to answer for, you only have to log on to the "My Wembley" site to see that they are reselling tickets in the Club Wembley section for £999.00 which is a total disgrace but let's not turn this into a rant at EFC.
Everton have obligations to sponsors, players, staff etc quite rightly so but the real issue is the meagre allocations given to the competing clubs and the flagrant promoting of tickets at inflated prices.
Noel,
If you are talking about me then you sir are massively mistaken. Did you see Jimmy Husband play or Joe Royle? Sorry pal but for my sins I was born in Birkdale, Southport. You know, the same place as our Rodders.
As in life everyone will at some point move away from home, but that does not belie the principle of my argument.
Although I?m pig sick that I won't get a ticket for the big one, I feel more sorry fore the guys and gals and especially the next generation of Everton supporters (the dis in our hearts) that will, because of SHITE FROM THE FA, not be able to see their team play and win the FA Cup
We need to start the whirlwind which will change football as it needs to be changed for the good of not just me, not just every other supporter but football in general, why?
BECAUSE WITHOUT OUR MONEY FOOTBALL WOULD BE NOTHING!!!!!
If you are talking about me then you sir are massively mistaken. Did you see Jimmy Husband play or Joe Royle? Sorry pal but for my sins I was born in Birkdale, Southport. You know, the same place as our Rodders.
As in life everyone will at some point move away from home, but that does not belie the principle of my argument.
Although I?m pig sick that I won't get a ticket for the big one, I feel more sorry fore the guys and gals and especially the next generation of Everton supporters (the dis in our hearts) that will, because of SHITE FROM THE FA, not be able to see their team play and win the FA Cup
We need to start the whirlwind which will change football as it needs to be changed for the good of not just me, not just every other supporter but football in general, why?
BECAUSE WITHOUT OUR MONEY FOOTBALL WOULD BE NOTHING!!!!!
Noel Kelly,
Like you mate it looks as though I will qualify for a ticket. But I don’t consider having a season ticket makes me a better or more ’real’ Blue than somebody else who goes to the Box Office and buys their ticket for the next game. It just makes me a little better off than some or more able to absorb debt.
Not everybody can afford £500 or so upfront because their budget and circumstances won’t allow it and not everbody has credit cards or can use them even if they do given the interest they charge. The first time I read your post I took it as tongue in cheek although even that would have been wrong and in bad tast. But having read it again I am sure you were serious.
I thought this website had a policy about posters considering themselves as better Blues than others for whatever reason. Maybe the site editors could pick up on this and take appropriate action.
Like you mate it looks as though I will qualify for a ticket. But I don’t consider having a season ticket makes me a better or more ’real’ Blue than somebody else who goes to the Box Office and buys their ticket for the next game. It just makes me a little better off than some or more able to absorb debt.
Not everybody can afford £500 or so upfront because their budget and circumstances won’t allow it and not everbody has credit cards or can use them even if they do given the interest they charge. The first time I read your post I took it as tongue in cheek although even that would have been wrong and in bad tast. But having read it again I am sure you were serious.
I thought this website had a policy about posters considering themselves as better Blues than others for whatever reason. Maybe the site editors could pick up on this and take appropriate action.
Pathetic that a 90,000 plus stadium, supposedly the ?home of football? can?t even accomodate the most loyal supporters of the two clubs playing in the showpiece occasion of the domestic season. Very fucking pathetic.
I apologise if people took me wrong - I'm not a "better blue" by virtue of having a season ticket and the good fortune to attend the home cup games. It's the club that want to reward my "loyalty" - as defined by them.
What I meant was it's the FA Cup Final and tickets are limited, more losers than winners and a tough job for the club. I will qualify and I'm lucky but that's as a result of my commitment ? which has cost money and in this day and age it didn't come easy. I just find it funny that people who don't qualify feel they are better blues than those that have.
@Dave Roberts
I think we’re in agreement.
STH + 3 get a ticket.
Those tickets will be distributed in order of purchase history. i.e. those with 8 games will get their preference ahead of those with 4 games.
My post might was in response to another, hence it might not make total sense.
I think we’re in agreement.
STH + 3 get a ticket.
Those tickets will be distributed in order of purchase history. i.e. those with 8 games will get their preference ahead of those with 4 games.
My post might was in response to another, hence it might not make total sense.
I should be fine for a ticket. As part of the football family, Everton (and all other FA-affiliated league teams) will have been given tickets by the FA for all years they have not been in the final. If all clubs within the football family gave the tickets back to the FA every year, then there would be enough for most fans and certainly every season ticket holder.
But no... most clubs will take the day out at the final year on year and then moan of a lack of tickets for "real fans" when they make the final.
Those in the football family (including EFC) should send the tickets back when they are not participating in the final, simple as ? the football family can put a stop to this but won't!
Now I wonder if Leigh Genesis will use their tickets!!
Paul J, my beef with EFC ? are you having a laugh? Shut it pal if you are thinking that I have a problem with Everton footy club.
This is not a rant at EFC. Stupid, it's a rant at the FRA. DON'T YOU JUST LOVE THE TYPO. Football Rubbish Assoc.
This is not a rant at EFC. Stupid, it's a rant at the FRA. DON'T YOU JUST LOVE THE TYPO. Football Rubbish Assoc.
So, my Everton friend, never accuse me of slagging off EFC. Its the politics STUPID. Therefore anyone who's had the chance of seeing our great team all season and now is screwed from seeing their beloved play in the final will now I hope agree with everything I've said.
MBFE (my blues for ever)!
Guys,
I?m not trying to slag anyone off that has a ticket. All i?m trying to say is that the FA are bunch of middle class twats who have deprived us Everton fans of a ticket. No more no less. We are the fans in front of the tv screen and yes we are jealous of you in the stadium. So what.
It?s not you we?re pissed off about but the TWATIN RULES that the FA put before us.
You guys who are there in terms of we are not then think of us when you raise the roof when we bring the cup back to MERESEYSIDE!!
I?m not trying to slag anyone off that has a ticket. All i?m trying to say is that the FA are bunch of middle class twats who have deprived us Everton fans of a ticket. No more no less. We are the fans in front of the tv screen and yes we are jealous of you in the stadium. So what.
It?s not you we?re pissed off about but the TWATIN RULES that the FA put before us.
You guys who are there in terms of we are not then think of us when you raise the roof when we bring the cup back to MERESEYSIDE!!
It's not instantly obvious is it what the website has stated! If you have 3 or more additional to your season ticket do you defo get one or are you in a ballot for one?
My first instinct was you went in a ballot, but now i wonder if based on the semis, they know there is X amount of fans with 3 or more so they will all get one, and that leaves x over for others with less than 3 to go into a ballot then its luck of the draw! I guess its a fair enough way.
I had a look on the chelski website, how many season ticket holders have they as it states STH with X loyalty points, then x loyalty points and so on, then all other season ticket holders, once ALL season ticket holders have theirs the remaining will go on general sale or something!!! so they cant have that many STH?
I do believe that Half season tickets are able to apply if they have 3 or more credits? im not sure on this, if its fair they get them over full time season ticket holders, of which i know a few who live away from liverpool have season tickets, have got it for next season, can get to maybe 1 or 2 extras, but only 1 or 2 cuz of cost and distance to travel??
Anyway, i think the FA is to blame, whatever everton did there would be unhappy people. I have 4 credits so hopefully will be ok!
The fa need shooting! IMO! only 10,000 less going to "nobodies" than actually fans!! pathetic, and old school and needs changing!! And the "out with touts" campaign the fa have they can shove it! its their fault there are touts in the first place!! they are the ones who give 40,000!!!! tickets to those who dont particularly want to go and who sell them on at triple the normal price!! if they gave enough to cover at least the STH of most clubs (part from prob utd who have about 60,000 prob) then majority of fans wouldnt need to go to use touts to get a ticket to watch the club they love!!!!
Anyway, i think the FA is to blame, whatever everton did there would be unhappy people. I have 4 credits so hopefully will be ok!
The fa need shooting! IMO! only 10,000 less going to "nobodies" than actually fans!! pathetic, and old school and needs changing!! And the "out with touts" campaign the fa have they can shove it! its their fault there are touts in the first place!! they are the ones who give 40,000!!!! tickets to those who dont particularly want to go and who sell them on at triple the normal price!! if they gave enough to cover at least the STH of most clubs (part from prob utd who have about 60,000 prob) then majority of fans wouldnt need to go to use touts to get a ticket to watch the club they love!!!!
CHRIST iT TAKES A femail to eventualy cotton on to what i’,m sayin.
Well said Anna You have a roof at anytime in Cornwall whenever you wish.
The FA are a bunch of middle class Dickheads from public school who dont know how to run a big dipper!
As I said before, Mr Kenwright, look forward to Correspondence starting from 1-6-09 (relevent) . I want answers
J.J.
Well said Anna You have a roof at anytime in Cornwall whenever you wish.
The FA are a bunch of middle class Dickheads from public school who dont know how to run a big dipper!
As I said before, Mr Kenwright, look forward to Correspondence starting from 1-6-09 (relevent) . I want answers
J.J.
I am a STH but will not get a ticket and I am gutted. I know the club is not to blame as there are not enough tickets but for personal reasons and financial I have been unable to go to any away Premier games or any FA games other than the semi. Yet those who can afford the aways and the FA games get first pick. Simply I could not afford them.
STH for over 10 years and am gutted. Could ’length of service’ not be a consideration at all. Seems terribly unfair that guys with Season tickets for 20, 30, 40 plus years but cannot go to away games etc - they have no chance either.
STH for over 10 years and am gutted. Could ’length of service’ not be a consideration at all. Seems terribly unfair that guys with Season tickets for 20, 30, 40 plus years but cannot go to away games etc - they have no chance either.
Jon,
I Don’t think Bill Kenwright will be able to give you the answers mate because I think the Club are as pissed off with the allocation as we are.
What we should be doing as football supporters is getting ALL Clubs together to protest and call for change. It is not just Evertonians who are suffering and being excluded it is Chelsea supporters too and all future Clubs in the final if nothing changes.
I said in another thread the other day that if only we could get organized, we could tell the FA to stick Wembley up their jacksie and hire Old Trafford for the day just for supporters of both Clubs. That would ensure 37,000 supporters of both Clubs could be there....and the Queen!
I know that is not going to happen in the real world but that is the sort of thing Clubs should be saying to the FA on behalf of supporters. If they did, maybe things would change. It might not be called the FA Cup anymore if that happened, but somehow I think the FA would cave in long before that actually occurred!
I Don’t think Bill Kenwright will be able to give you the answers mate because I think the Club are as pissed off with the allocation as we are.
What we should be doing as football supporters is getting ALL Clubs together to protest and call for change. It is not just Evertonians who are suffering and being excluded it is Chelsea supporters too and all future Clubs in the final if nothing changes.
I said in another thread the other day that if only we could get organized, we could tell the FA to stick Wembley up their jacksie and hire Old Trafford for the day just for supporters of both Clubs. That would ensure 37,000 supporters of both Clubs could be there....and the Queen!
I know that is not going to happen in the real world but that is the sort of thing Clubs should be saying to the FA on behalf of supporters. If they did, maybe things would change. It might not be called the FA Cup anymore if that happened, but somehow I think the FA would cave in long before that actually occurred!
Surely not all STHs will be making the journey to Wembley.
As a rough estimate, say it is going to be 80%. If we have 25,000 STHs, that will leave 5,000 not taken up. That would approx. cover the remaining half STHs. The club have to start somewhere with their criteria, and some people will always miss out.
Chelsea have to look after about 10,000 before their STHs even get a sniff!
As a rough estimate, say it is going to be 80%. If we have 25,000 STHs, that will leave 5,000 not taken up. That would approx. cover the remaining half STHs. The club have to start somewhere with their criteria, and some people will always miss out.
Chelsea have to look after about 10,000 before their STHs even get a sniff!
Joeynkoo to be in the Football Family you just have to be a tout as that’s who the tickets will end up with, just glad I qualify as a STH with enough games plus autocup, I’m hunting for enough tickets as it is for other family members who don’t qualify.
J.Cox
There you go again with your pathetic threats to badger BK over this issue. WTF is that all about..! Get a grip and feel free to hound the FA with your "correspondence". I’d also be interested to know how many games youve managed to get to from Cornwall this season. This "Everton fanatic" of over 40 years will rightly be sitting at Wembley on the 30th. Sure the distribution is a scandal but my guess is that if we got 60,000 tickets you wouldn’t qualify - wake up FFS.
There you go again with your pathetic threats to badger BK over this issue. WTF is that all about..! Get a grip and feel free to hound the FA with your "correspondence". I’d also be interested to know how many games youve managed to get to from Cornwall this season. This "Everton fanatic" of over 40 years will rightly be sitting at Wembley on the 30th. Sure the distribution is a scandal but my guess is that if we got 60,000 tickets you wouldn’t qualify - wake up FFS.
Even though I am not a season ticket holder I do agree that season ticket holders should get 1st priority. That I do not have a problem with. The problem I like many have an issue with is of course the allocation. As is per norm the FA have kicked everyone up the backside. They simply couldn’t care less if we haven’t seen our team in a Final for 14 years. Of course it is nothing new but it sums up how corrupt they are. That being said it is possible that we may get a decent number in the ground on May 30th. I mean in the semi we must have surely had close to 40,000 in Wembley. So let’s hope we can do it again. Although it’s highly likely that will mean forking out shameful prices to touts.
Gary Evans - if you’re an STH then how do you know you won’t get a ticket? You’ve been invited to enter the ballot, so you’ve got a chance surely?
I’ve read the OS 100 times now and I think it’s safe to say that the following conclusions can be drawn:
1. if you’re an STH with 3+ creds you WILL get a ticket
2. if you’re an STH on the home or away cup auto scheme you WILL get a ticket
3. if you’re an STH who doesn’t fit the above criteria you MIGHT get a ticket
4. if you fit none of the above criteria you WON’T get a ticket.
Don’t forget: some STH won’t be able to get to the game, or might just prefer to watch it on telly, so if you’re an STH with no creds you might as well still apply.
I think it’s pretty fair, but as I said at the top I think the way they’re distributing the tickets is ludicrous: why not just sell it like a normal away match? That way you can just ring up, or email, and order the ticket you want!
If the rumour about 7,000 going to shareholders and sponsors is true then unfortunately it’s just another sad indictment of the way football is going.
I’ve read the OS 100 times now and I think it’s safe to say that the following conclusions can be drawn:
1. if you’re an STH with 3+ creds you WILL get a ticket
2. if you’re an STH on the home or away cup auto scheme you WILL get a ticket
3. if you’re an STH who doesn’t fit the above criteria you MIGHT get a ticket
4. if you fit none of the above criteria you WON’T get a ticket.
Don’t forget: some STH won’t be able to get to the game, or might just prefer to watch it on telly, so if you’re an STH with no creds you might as well still apply.
I think it’s pretty fair, but as I said at the top I think the way they’re distributing the tickets is ludicrous: why not just sell it like a normal away match? That way you can just ring up, or email, and order the ticket you want!
If the rumour about 7,000 going to shareholders and sponsors is true then unfortunately it’s just another sad indictment of the way football is going.
Just spoke to someone at the club Fan Centre because of various comments on this and other forums about the status of semi-final ticket purchases re credits and elibility for the 3 additional games, and they confirmed that STHs will not be credited if they bought semi -final tickets because it is a "neutral ground"- go figure!
The official website states that only a small number of tickets will be going to shareholders who aren’t season ticket holders - 7000 doesn’t sound like a small number to me. I do think that Everton employees will get a chance of a ticket as I doubt the stewards etc actually have season tickets to qualify like us plebs.
I’m one of the lucky ones (I have 4 credits) and I sympathise with those who will miss out ? the FA Football Family should be outed as the biggest crime dynasty since the Krays!!!
I’m one of the lucky ones (I have 4 credits) and I sympathise with those who will miss out ? the FA Football Family should be outed as the biggest crime dynasty since the Krays!!!
Tim W - fair point but on your 1 to 4 scale I am on the ’MIGHT’ get a ticket and after being a STH for over a decade I would much rather be a ’DEFINITE’. It just grates - I reckon those with 2 other games will get preference in the ballot over those with 1 or none like me.
I have a feeling that the semi at Wembley wasn’t included because if it had been it would have meant a whole new calculation and a lot more work.
They already have all the figures for the additional games from the semi-final applications and it would be relatively easy for them to read (off those figures) what would have to be the cut-off point.
In case I am not making myself clear (!) I can imagine somebody saying something like, ’look we have 15,000 tickets here. How far down the additional games list can we go before we get to that figure?’ The answer was 3+.
While it’s possible that some who met that criteria may not apply for a Final ticket, it won’t be many. But however many, they will just become available lower down and eventually in the lottery (if there is one)
They already have all the figures for the additional games from the semi-final applications and it would be relatively easy for them to read (off those figures) what would have to be the cut-off point.
In case I am not making myself clear (!) I can imagine somebody saying something like, ’look we have 15,000 tickets here. How far down the additional games list can we go before we get to that figure?’ The answer was 3+.
While it’s possible that some who met that criteria may not apply for a Final ticket, it won’t be many. But however many, they will just become available lower down and eventually in the lottery (if there is one)
Can anyone help?
I live in Swansea, am not a season ticket holder and do not frequent Goodison that much a season, despite an avid supporter.
Trouble is, I can see some replies above but only have a short time on here, what chance have I got of obtaining a cup final ticket,in regard to the above, when do they actually go on sale, any help to non-season ticket holders would be appreciated, also when would be the latest to puchase a ticket.
Sorry for my lack of ticket availability knowledge. Any help I would be grateful.
I live in Swansea, am not a season ticket holder and do not frequent Goodison that much a season, despite an avid supporter.
Trouble is, I can see some replies above but only have a short time on here, what chance have I got of obtaining a cup final ticket,in regard to the above, when do they actually go on sale, any help to non-season ticket holders would be appreciated, also when would be the latest to puchase a ticket.
Sorry for my lack of ticket availability knowledge. Any help I would be grateful.
What chance has a STH with 2 extra credits got?
@ Dave Roberts
Dave, my mate emailed in to customer services and complained about the semi ticket not being included.
They actually rang him up to explain, the reason is that if they included the semi in the mix then allocation would have been exceeded.
Dave, my mate emailed in to customer services and complained about the semi ticket not being included.
They actually rang him up to explain, the reason is that if they included the semi in the mix then allocation would have been exceeded.
Jessica
I would reckon your chance of getting a ticket from Everton is virtually zilch unless you were incredibly lucky in the lottery (if there is one). Google EvertonFC.com and follow the links for the allocation arrangements.
The FA do sell some corporate tickets but I believe they cost about £250 but I believe you get a meal and drinks with that. Touts and agencies will want even more.
In my experience you can always get a ticket somehow, but it depends how much you can afford to pay unfortunately.
Google ?FA Cup Final Tickets? and check the websites that come up. £38 tickets going for £425! Unless you can afford that I am afraid you are out of luck.
I would reckon your chance of getting a ticket from Everton is virtually zilch unless you were incredibly lucky in the lottery (if there is one). Google EvertonFC.com and follow the links for the allocation arrangements.
The FA do sell some corporate tickets but I believe they cost about £250 but I believe you get a meal and drinks with that. Touts and agencies will want even more.
In my experience you can always get a ticket somehow, but it depends how much you can afford to pay unfortunately.
Google ?FA Cup Final Tickets? and check the websites that come up. £38 tickets going for £425! Unless you can afford that I am afraid you are out of luck.
Adrian,
Thanks. There must have been an awful lot of supporters with 2 + the semi I think if that is the case. In those circumstances the whole thing would have been a virtual lottery with some getting tickets while others with identical additional games would not. Horrendous. We have to blame the FA.
Thanks. There must have been an awful lot of supporters with 2 + the semi I think if that is the case. In those circumstances the whole thing would have been a virtual lottery with some getting tickets while others with identical additional games would not. Horrendous. We have to blame the FA.
Unfortunately I don’t think I will be going as I haven’t been to an additional 3 games (did go to semi but this doesn’t count). I am very disappointed but more so for my lad who hasn’t seen them win anything. Despite the years of abuse from our beloved cousins across the park he appears to be as mentally ill about Everton as the rest of us. Not a lot I can do about it I suppose but it does really grate that no consideration is given to the length of time you have been a season ticket holder (at least 15 years probably a lot of people in the same position with many more years). Ultimately I will probably have to banish the missus to her sisters as she won’t understand when I am screaming at the telly come May 30. Hoepfully I will take the lad to watch them come back on the Sunday with the cup. COYB!!!!!!!!!!
Yes the FA have screwed us but why do half season ticket holders have as much chance in the ballot as full STH, why does the semi not count as a credit and I also agree with Colin why since eticketung does the length of time you have been a STH not count? - I’m coming up tp my tenth anniversary! I also live outside the area and only have the 1 credit. The club are not helping things either with their allocation policy! (You’re still in my heart though!)
Girl from work’s brother in law got 4 tickets from a chief steward , he’s bringing his girlfriend and their dads. 2 of them support Spurs , the others couldnt give a fuck about football!!!!!!!!! I dont fuckin believe it ! 23years of blue blood in my veins and I havent got a clam’s cock of a chance of getting tickets but them fuckers get to go. She wasnt winding me up coz she’s a Everton fairweather fan and thought he would bring her so shes gutted! . I almost ate my own arm when she told me. How fair is that ! Fuck the lot them, Im disgusted
@ Dave
Yes, you’re right Dave. If their are any tickets left for a lottery I think it also tells you how much of a lottery it will be. You might have more chance of winning the lotto!
Yes, you’re right Dave. If their are any tickets left for a lottery I think it also tells you how much of a lottery it will be. You might have more chance of winning the lotto!
Geoff. I have to agree with your take on the length of your season ticket ownership - no reason why the club couldn’t do that imo. The reason that the semi isn’t credited is quite simply there aren’t enough tickets, they could easily include the Semi but then the criteria would be 4 credits not 3.
My 8 year old son has been in tears since last night and Im not far behind him. We are both season ticket holders but in my wisdom I didnt allow him to attend the LFC cup game because he had school the next day - at the time it seemed the right decision because with the extra time it was almost midnight before I got home. He didnt attend Standard Liege for the same reason. So I have four cup games and the semi and my son has two cup games and the semi. I spoke to thc club today and they said that theres nothing they can do. The only way I can have a chance of going to Wembley with my son is to give up my entitlement to my ticket and both take our chances in the ballot. How can the club encourage young, up and coming fans with policies like this. Surely a childs eligibility for a ticket must be linked to the parent - after all an 8 year old cant go the game on their own. I feel even more ill when I think Ive just spent £800 renewing for next year - a great way to reward the loyal "fanbase". What they arent saying is that 7000 of OUR tickets have been scalped by EFC for cronies and hangers on. Gutted.
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I do find it strange that the most expensive ones seemed to have gone already, the OS state that the tickets will probably be the £78 & £58 ones