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Gosling: pacy winger...
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or hard-working central midfielder?
I have been keeping tabs on our derby hero Dan Gosling when he's came on in games recently and it seems one match he comes on and frustrates teams by getting tackles in and harrying the opposition and than the other he will come on and cause teams plenty of problems with his pace on the right wing and likes to run at full-backs.
What will this lad end up as, a stifling Rory Delap type, or the answer to our lack of a quick right-winger?
Ian Tod, Posted 29/04/2009 at 19:25:44
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Everybody seems to forget he was bought as a right back, and that is where he played at Plymouth.
He can operate as an emergency right winger, just as Baines can.
Personally I thought he did alright against City, he made a great run for the goal and finished well.
If he had more strength (Which I’m sure will happen as he grows older) he would be a very good option at right back ahead of the likes of Hibbert and Jacobsen.
He can operate as an emergency right winger, just as Baines can.
Personally I thought he did alright against City, he made a great run for the goal and finished well.
If he had more strength (Which I’m sure will happen as he grows older) he would be a very good option at right back ahead of the likes of Hibbert and Jacobsen.
I agree that he’s not fast enough to be a winger, but I think his knack for goal, his ability to put in a decent cross, his runs, and his all-around energy make him a better option than Osman (for now, at least). Also, his defensive abilities will come in handy as I think we need to start defending from the front more often
His first touch and passing accuracy are the most worrying aspects of his game for me.
At first I was really impressed with him. His directness, pace, strength and determination were a great boost to the team in January. Since then he’s gone off the boil a bit, but he’s still only young and new to the premiership so let’s wait and see how he fares over the next 13 months. Would definitely give him a run in the side now though, giving Osman a much needed break.
At first I was really impressed with him. His directness, pace, strength and determination were a great boost to the team in January. Since then he’s gone off the boil a bit, but he’s still only young and new to the premiership so let’s wait and see how he fares over the next 13 months. Would definitely give him a run in the side now though, giving Osman a much needed break.
The guy’s a legend for his cup goal... but he won;t be ready for first pick until 2010/11 at the earliest, so no need to label him just yet.
The lad is young and has a lot to learn. Moyes is doing the right thing with him at the moment and giving him some experience. Give him another 2-3 years and you will see a quality player.
He doesn’t have to be either. What he seems to be is a goalscoring midfielder, which is a fairly precious commodity. If he’s not the quickest, then neither is Frank Lampard.
I’ll tell you what he’s not...a left winger..
Im not convinced by him on the wing at all...if Moyes insists on playing him out of position (which I consider to be Moyes’ most aggravating trait behind playing Osman)...then its the centre for me. He can hold the ball up well and pass...and he always seems to drift into the middle anyway..
Im not convinced by him on the wing at all...if Moyes insists on playing him out of position (which I consider to be Moyes’ most aggravating trait behind playing Osman)...then its the centre for me. He can hold the ball up well and pass...and he always seems to drift into the middle anyway..
Echo one of the responses, he’s lacking a bit of body strength which should come as he grows older. One for the future that’s not afraid of trying for goal. COYB
I see that some people cannot help to take a stab at Moyes. A thread to discuss the merits of Gosling takes 6 posts before Moyes is identified as being culpable. I am not sure if anyone has noticed, but we dont have any wide players that Moyes considers as being good enough to play for Everton.
Anyway, my take on Gosling is that he is not ready yet. And is not a winger in any capacity. In fact, I cant really put my finger on what he is right now. He seems to be a utlility player, who can do a job in any position, but without setting the world on fire.
Given the size of the lad, if he can learn how to tackle he may even make a decent centre half. But I have seen very little to suggest that he is a consistent attacking footballer at the moment. I would bet he doesnt even know himself what position is his best....
Anyway, my take on Gosling is that he is not ready yet. And is not a winger in any capacity. In fact, I cant really put my finger on what he is right now. He seems to be a utlility player, who can do a job in any position, but without setting the world on fire.
Given the size of the lad, if he can learn how to tackle he may even make a decent centre half. But I have seen very little to suggest that he is a consistent attacking footballer at the moment. I would bet he doesnt even know himself what position is his best....
RIght nobody mention Moyes...SHHHHHHUSH..Mum’s the word.
Secret squirrel mode activated.
Secret squirrel mode activated.
Not too convinced with him yet but he will be dining out on the Derbt goal for years to come.
He’s a bit like Osman in some respects isn’t he? Neat and tidy, but not that creative. Bundles of energy but not got enough strength or pace. The one thing he has got is an eye for goal: three he’s got already this season and he’s carved out other openings for himself as well.
The guy will be quality. It’s very difficult to come on as sub and influence a game. He did that on Saturday. Up until he came on we never looked like scoring. When Gerrard first got into the RS side he played right back and right wing because he was considered too small for the middle. I think there are a lot of similarities between them at that age and Gosling will come good. He just needs a lot of coaching to raise the standard. He is already better than Osman though and I can’t understand why Moyes doesn’t ’rest’ Osman and give Super Dan a run out to gain the experience.
Pacy Winger???.....FFS just becasue we neeeed one it dosn’t make him one. On saying that ANYONE on the right apart from the championship standard Osman will do me.
He’s got a bit of everything but he’s definitely no pacy winger. His main asset seems to be having an eye for a goal, which is a great knack to have. However he is only young and is nowhere near ready for a run in the first team. I think Moyesy will use him next season like he’s used him this season, and we’ll have to see how he develops if he is to make the breakthrough in 2010/2011...
Quite impressed with the lad really. Memorable goal in the Derby and good goal at the weekend. Being brought along expertly by Moyes, that is, not being exposed as a full back, given cameo roles further up the pitch. Seems to have played a fair bit as a centre mid in his own age group and I think that is where I’d put my money on him ending up Wether or not he will be good enough for the Blues in the long term is in his hands still but I agree with some of the above posts, he’s no pacy winger. Having coached sportsmen of all varieties, speed is something you can improve on.
I’d say his best chance of having any sustained top flight career will be at right back. The fact he has an eye for a goal is a bonus.
Oh and you Moyes and Osman knockers get over yourselves will yer? Boring as feck!
Oh and you Moyes and Osman knockers get over yourselves will yer? Boring as feck!
To be writing the lad of after a handful of games is pretty sad and pesimism at the extreme. Gosling has proven to be a huge success this season along with the continuing emergence of Jack Rodwell. Both player’s have made a significant contribution despite their youth and inexperience and with 3 goals and a man of the match performance away to Middlesborough, representation at U21 level Gosling is certainly on the radar. Gosling posesses pace, is good in the tackle and clearly has an eye for goal. Next season Moyes needs to bring in a quality winger, for me it would be Stewart Downing and with Piennar switched to the right Gosling would provide more than adequate cover.
Similarities between Gerrard and Gosling ? . . .
The G in the surname and a dodgy short back and sides.......unless Dans had a pop at his tart too??
Downing??? FFS-your having a laff mate. Tomorrow is 1st of May, not 1st of April!!!
Just moving away from the Gosling subject, has anyone else heard about Antone Peterlin set to sign for Everton, hes a 22 year old midfielder whos been on trial at Everton for 10 days, and apparently Moyes thinks highly of him and has decided to sign him. I’ve never heard or seen him, does anyone else have any info regarding him? (News reported by NSNO)
Apperently if his footballing career dosen’t take off, he will become a doctor!
Looks like a midfielder with an eye for goal to me - would be wasted as a right back in my opinion.
I've been very impressed with him in the few appearances he has made, some of you wouldn't know potential if it hit you in the face. It is a bit early to judge and make comparisons but from what I have seen I like his confidence and positive attacking attitude and the way he's always trying to get into the box and support attacks, he can put in a tackle too.
I don't think he is pacy but certainly not slow, I don't think he's quick enough to be a winger and his delivery isn't fantastic. I don't think people gave him enough credit in the Villa game either, Rodwell and Arteta took all the plaudits, but I though Gosling and Baines teamed up well and closed down quickly to prevent Villa attacks, there seemed to be hardly any threat from down his side. However, he struggled to beat his man for pace, but never gave up trying and won a few corners and could have won a pen and done enough to pull the defence away for Cahill's goal.
I don't know what his best position will be but I think he could come up with a few goals a season, personally i would play him instead of Osman, as I think he has more energy, is better in the tackle, slightly quicker, and will score more goals, although I don't think he?s quite as good in possession, but I think his directness would be more effective.
I don't think he is pacy but certainly not slow, I don't think he's quick enough to be a winger and his delivery isn't fantastic. I don't think people gave him enough credit in the Villa game either, Rodwell and Arteta took all the plaudits, but I though Gosling and Baines teamed up well and closed down quickly to prevent Villa attacks, there seemed to be hardly any threat from down his side. However, he struggled to beat his man for pace, but never gave up trying and won a few corners and could have won a pen and done enough to pull the defence away for Cahill's goal.
I don't know what his best position will be but I think he could come up with a few goals a season, personally i would play him instead of Osman, as I think he has more energy, is better in the tackle, slightly quicker, and will score more goals, although I don't think he?s quite as good in possession, but I think his directness would be more effective.
Just another thing i noticed from the last 2 Villa games but forgot to mention; In the 3-3 draw milner won the man of the match award causing all sorts of problems and putting lots of pressure on the defence with his dangerous crossing. Were as in the 3-1 win, Milner didnt have a stiff, i dont think he managed to put a cross in, Gosling did far more of the attacking than the £12m man and helped keep milner quite in the proccess, it might be coincidence and milner may have had an off day but iv learnt these kinds of things tend to repeat themselves. Gosling might prove to be one of Moyess’ shrewdest signings in a few years down the line.
That’s a great article... because seeing it, I personally see him playing him centre mid. He doesn’t look like a winger to me so much. I think Moyes is doing Wenger’s trick... playing them in the wing until he’s physical enough for the middle... look at Nasri... he plays centre mid now after started at the left
I must be alone in thinking Gosling as well as an eye for goal does have a turn of pace and the strength to ride tackles.
Not that long ago I was on my own in defending Cahill against those who claimed he couldn’t tackle, pass or shoot.
Not that long ago I was on my own in defending Cahill against those who claimed he couldn’t tackle, pass or shoot.
Its far too early in his career to determine what he will be or where he will end up. I see Moyes continuing to use him next season as he has in this.
What i like about him from what ive seen is his willingness to run at players and there is no doubting he certainly does seem to have an eye for goal and seems to turn up in goalscoring positions quite a lot. This was really evident from as early as his first game against Boro where he had 3 excellent chances in the game and since then most games he has played he has popped up in good goalscoring positions. Dont know if he will be an out and out winger but he will certainly be a good goalscoring midfielder and will probably be a good impact sub for most of next season.
What i like about him from what ive seen is his willingness to run at players and there is no doubting he certainly does seem to have an eye for goal and seems to turn up in goalscoring positions quite a lot. This was really evident from as early as his first game against Boro where he had 3 excellent chances in the game and since then most games he has played he has popped up in good goalscoring positions. Dont know if he will be an out and out winger but he will certainly be a good goalscoring midfielder and will probably be a good impact sub for most of next season.
I think he was an astute buy and Moyes knows how to get the best of him.
Paul O’Hanlen, did you see his first touch for the goals against Liverpool and Man City? I think the lad will develop into a good, central midfied, all action player but for me the most exciting prospect is Baxter.
Kevin Gillen, I have to disagree, you can put stamina onto sprint, which gives you 100, 200,400, 800, 1500, 5000, and 10000 mtrs runners and results in Algerian and Morrocain world record holders. But not sprint on to stamina, that just results in one paced David Bedfords.
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