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Van Wants A New Deal?
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Just read on Sky Sports that Van der Meyde is 'unlikely' to be offered a new deal at Everton and his agent is looking for a new club in England.
What fucking cloud do these people live on?
We have been mugged to the tune of six million quid (more if we paid a fee for him) at least over the course of four years if we are to believe he has been picking up £30k a week, and for what?
The alarm bells should have been ringing when he only managed to complete 12 games in two years for Inter, prior to us signing him, and yet we still get mugs coming onto this website and saying 'he deserves another chance'.
It makes me so angry when gobshites like this can bleed the club dry, then the agent has the audacity to come out and say 'basically my client is looking for another mug to fleece'.
No doubt there were legal reasons we couldn't offload this useless excuse for a human being.
Only in the world of football could this situation be allowed to fester for four years.
Steve Hogan, Posted 30/04/2009 at 12:36:33
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Perhaps the best winger we have had since Kanchelskis, misfortune and stupidity clouded his time with us. That - couple with Moyes outright refusal to give the guy a break even when he was fit and begging for an opportunity.
The news also follows on from his being left out of the squad over the last couple of weeks when you might of thought that Moyes could of thrown him a bone the way he did to Lars and Casti. I wish him luck. I guess he might end up at one of our local rivals with his daughter being ill.
Others will say good riddance... but I have a soft spot for him. Some of the things he can do with a ball are unreal OH WELL!! (let the bashing commence)
The man was an out and out cheat end of, when he did turn up for training he was ALWAYS the first to leave.
Moyes has to take the blame as his history was before him before we signed him, but instead of thanking Moyes for not sacking him on numerous occasions he has slated him numerous times. He has never been fit to play Sunday league football nevermind the Premier League.
I will always remember a coach going to Boro on New Years day, a couple of lads came straight from a party, guess who was still at the party?
Sadly he?s also had a few problems on his domestic front with his child, therefore, as some people have said, I have mixed feelings about him going. The biggest is what he may have been capable of contributing to EFC had things been different!
Nice work if you can get it.
Players should get a decent flat rate wage to live on (£5k a week sounds more than reasonable) and then get the mega-money for the shift they put in on the pitch. That way the ever presents like Tim Cahill, Howard, Lescott, Jags, Neville, Pienaar etc get the rewards they deserve and the others have to fight for their place to get into the first team. Those in the first team will also play their guts out not to get dropped. It also means the money we are saving on the also rans can be used to make the first team wages much higher than they are now, attracting real talent who at the moment wont touch us with a barge pole.
I know you’ll say - "with that system they wont come in case they get dropped". Tough, if they think they’re good enough, let them prove it.
We want winners, not spongers.
I totally agree with your proposals, the only thing is it would have to be adopted on a worldwide scale for it to work, otherwise all the decent players would bugger off somewhere else. If such a system was ever put into place the competetiveness would go up 100% and mercenaries would become a thing of the past. And even if you get injured 5K a week is more than enough to get by.
However, if we’re paying out say £100k an appearance you’d hope we’d attract a mustard first 11 week in week out. If we do that we should win games, be successful and start winning big. Trophies attract the best as much as money and we’ll be offering both. Could it work? Imagine the pride they’d have winning that first team place? Imagine the buzz it’d give a youth team player when he made it through?
If we were successful other teams will follow suit. If Barca can pay a charity for the right to have them on their shirts why can’t we do something equally radical? A new model - lets face it everyone in football thinks its outrageous how much money is swishing around players pockets - even the players admit it but defend themselves by saying they’d be mad to turn it down. Fans dont mind if they play their hearts out do they, which they would if they were facing a £95k a week pay cut.
If Louis Saha can do it why cant they all?
Other problems are team morale... manager accused of favouritism... jealousy etc but at least the players would have no doubt on a Saturday what would be expected of them.
I also have been one of the ones calling for him to be involved more this season, as I know that he’s the only midfielder we have with the pace, trickery and directness to carry the ball over long distances and beat a man.
But, depsite all this, the decision is right and he has to go. His record with injuries is terrible and, despite the problems with his kid, his attitude has often been abysmal. But for me this is a massive shame as an Evertonian - I truly believe that he could have been an Everton great if only he had more luck and a more professional approach.
I wish him every luck in the future, but sorry Andy - this isn’t the football club for you: we need winners and players with the right attitude, not spongers and sicknotes.
Was supposed to be one of the big names of the European Championships with the Netherlands in Portugal, but never fulfilled his potential. Am I right in thinking he never scored a goal for the first team all the time he’s been here.
Was involved in the Daniel Gosling strike against the shite if memory serves but apart from that, nothing comes to mind.
Really it?s a story about wanton waste for both ourselves and him. I feel sure Moyes would have been aware of his problems beforehand but was given assurances that AvdM would be able to knuckle down and do a job. The fact he hasn?t will make the ever cautious Moyes more wary when recruiting in the future I?d hope.
Can?t finish without wishing Van der Meyde well in the future and to thank him for that peach of an assist in the Gosling derby, which all things considered, is much to be grateful for. We need a genuinely quick and able replacement as a matter of priority now.
I wanted to ask when he?d seen him play to make this informed judgement that Shandy was indeed his personal hero in the way Bob Latch and Big Nev were mine when I was a few years younger. Latch and Nev will always be welcome at Everton for the pleasure and service they both gave. VDM?.... goodbye and good riddance. Nothing short of theft of wages
He will make it on to an Everton DVD, bizarrely enough.
05/06 - 7 starts - 3 Subs - 508 minutes
06/07 - 5 starts - 2 subs - 407 minutes
07/08 - 0 starts - 0 subs - 0 minutes
08/09 (to date) - 0 starts - 2 subs - 12 minutes
So in summary, started 12 matches and came on as a sub in 5 more. Reading at home in 06/07 was the only match which he started and finished, all other 11 he was taken off at some point. Total minutes on the pitch 927. So if he has earned 6m, that is £6472 per minute.
But let us not forget, he crossed for Super Danny Gosling to score again the other lot in the Cup. Is that not enough for forgiveness?
But did I mention he crossed for SDG to score the winner in extra time in the cup replay this year against Liverpool?
As the fat lady hasn’t sung yet, there could still be another twist, but a very good cross to give Dan Gosling the chance to score such a fabulous goal should perhaps be how we remember him - before we forget all about him.
Stranger things have happened Nick!!
(What a parting shot!)
Andy could have helped out much more this season and is still ? save Arteta ? the most technically gifted player at EFC. I would like to see him on a one-year pay-as-you-play deal and see if that would inject new life into him. Many of you are so hard on the fella. It?s not his fault he doesn?t get picked.
His salary is based on his pedigree and if you were on that much bob and didn?t ever get in the team (long after your indiscretions had evaporated) what would you do? ... You would pick splinters out of your ass like he does.


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