What is the significance of the FA cup to the players of Everton and Chelsea?
I have listened with interest, since the two FA Cup finalists have been known, to comments by players from both teams. Intestingly there was very little coming from the Chelsea camp until they were knocked out of the Champions League and had no chance of winning the Premier League.
On the Everton side, the fans, the players and the club as a whole have been hit by FA Cup fever since the semi-final. If Everton were to win on 30th May, it will be their first trophy since 1995, so winning the cup is massive.
The Chelsea players on the other hand have been reflecting on missing out on getting to the CL final, and talk about the FA Cup as being a consolation prize, for a disappointing season.
So it seems that winning the FA Cup will mean more to Everton than Chelsea. Will this matter on the day? Will it matter who wants it more?
I think it will.
Brian Baker, Posted 21/05/2009 at 08:47:53
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1 Posted 21/05/2009 at 14:32:34
2 Posted 21/05/2009 at 15:13:13
3 Posted 21/05/2009 at 16:10:18
The moment Iniesta smashed that equiliser in at the Bridge last week, our chances of winning took a major hit. It amazes me just how many of our lot have been coming out with this shit about Chelsea not caring. I hope you're right mate but somehow I don't think life is that simple.
Can we win? If everything goes our way and Chelsea have an off-day we might have a chance... Oh and if Leon Osman gets dropped that is.
4 Posted 21/05/2009 at 16:31:56
All the locals were glad to be going to Wembley - the Evertonians were there to win it.
That was the difference - along with Tricky Trev, Ratters, Nev, Reidy etc etc.
5 Posted 21/05/2009 at 17:29:50
6 Posted 21/05/2009 at 17:32:58
I get a subscription for Everton TV each year for Xmas off my Dad, and I love it for the 20 minute highlights I get instead of the last two minutes of MOTD. Last night I watched the two games against Chelsea this season and in the home game Ossie was terrific. I know you hate the lad but if you get a chance have a look at that game and you?ll see how hard he worked, how he went in bravely for the tackle that had Terry sent off, and the chances he created for Tim, Pienaar, and others. On his day (which you will say doesn?t come often enough) Leon Osman is a talented and dedicated addition to our team.
I hope he plays, and that he has had enough training under his belt for him to play his best.
7 Posted 21/05/2009 at 18:15:03
8 Posted 21/05/2009 at 18:17:34
9 Posted 21/05/2009 at 19:43:08
There?s a lot of what you say that, being a realist, I agree with. As regards to little Leon however, I think that he is first and foremost a team player. He is as part of the family as Mikel, Joyo or any of them.
To me, Leon tries to do things that the others don't, sometimes have the bottle to try, and therefore when the things he tries don't come off it always looks as though he is sub-standard.
I look at it in terms of, if I was the manager, I would always say to my strikers, "Try to have ten shots at goal every game and it doesn?t matter whether you hit the corner flag nine times but the the tenth flies in."
This is what I think Leon is trying to do. It?s the type of football that in say a cup final will put a man through on goal. His endeavors may not work for the majority of the game but that one instance he will succeed.
For me I?ll bet he reads this website and if you do then keep going son because you will get there in the end. And for you I hope you get there in the end AT WEMBLEY.
10 Posted 21/05/2009 at 20:04:43
Answer: That Leon Osman is crap, isn?t he?
It never ceases to amaze me how some of you guys can warp just about any topic in to a dreary moan about your personal bugbears. Thank God no one is blathering on about Kirby yet.
11 Posted 21/05/2009 at 20:05:51
Sorry mate I meant to say KIRKBY
12 Posted 21/05/2009 at 20:17:06
13 Posted 21/05/2009 at 20:33:28
14 Posted 21/05/2009 at 20:44:11
Back to the plot. If anyone thinks that Chelsea have got themselves to a final albeit the only Premier League club they played on their way there was Arsenal, then think again. They will be out for blood. To be fair, we now have the most dire set of circunstances that we could ever have had in terms of they really want to win this cup.
I?m happy with that because if we go down then we go down fighting!! But hey, guys ? promise me this: If we win, I want everyone to do the phone-ins after.
No 1: give em shit;
No 2: give ?em even more shit and talk about Villa. And to finish let them know in no uncertain terms that we are back WITH A VENGENCE.
And Moyes is going nowhere!
15 Posted 21/05/2009 at 23:18:44
And did you know that Kevin Jones?s father in law is 82.
Tony ? Ossie will play in the Cup Final ? do you promise to come on ToffeeWeb after the game and write a piece if he scores and we win?!
16 Posted 21/05/2009 at 23:14:38
17 Posted 21/05/2009 at 23:46:18
Mr Marsh, is this worth a tenner?
18 Posted 22/05/2009 at 08:32:32
I don’t for one minute think that Chelsea will roll over. There will be some Chelsea players giving 110% with a huge desire to win the FA Cup.
But it only takes a few players to not regard the FA Cup as being that important, in the grand scheme of things in order to tip the balance.
It seems there are some Chelsea players who do give that impression. It may be that other things going on in the club are distracting them, like the uncertainty of who will be managing them next season.
But I could be wrong, and we will get our asses kicked on the day.
But IMHO I think we will put on a show to be proud of, win or lose.
19 Posted 22/05/2009 at 09:44:57
20 Posted 22/05/2009 at 09:56:47
I doubt many... We have done it the hard way.
21 Posted 22/05/2009 at 13:12:43
Coupled with the manager?s reluctance to drop or even substitute him, we have the weakest link in a vital area of the pitch imo.
Essien & Co will be rubbing their hands come teamsheet time. Naturally I would love to be proved wrong but I believe we win the FA Cup in spite of Osman not because of him.
22 Posted 22/05/2009 at 13:56:59
As regards the question, believe me come the day Chelsea will give it 100% as they are full of total professionals. We need luck and total commitment as does any team.
23 Posted 22/05/2009 at 17:32:22
Although I agree and Tony Marsh would get the stun bad style if Osman played a blinder, just wanted to repeat that the previous Tony Lynch is either an imposter posing as me or is also called Tony Lynch. If so, what?s happening laird?!!!
24 Posted 22/05/2009 at 23:42:25
The Bolsheviks will will the battle of the Left and come home triumphant.
Then you Citizem Smith wanabes can jump all over the big fucking horses in the town centre on Sunday afternoon with a great big hangover after we win the Cup.
We?ve missed you Tony Marsh, have you been in talks with Maggie T on how to improve the Right.
25 Posted 22/05/2009 at 13:00:47
26 Posted 23/05/2009 at 09:41:10