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Cash in on Cahill
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Based on recent performances
does anyone agree that it may be time to cash in on Cahill? He looked a shadow of his past on Saturday.
Chris Otway, Posted 01/06/2009 at 07:14:34
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Michael Kenrick
Cahill was a massive hero just a few weeks ago. He always looks less effective if he doesn't score, but he is vital to the spirit of the team.
Absolutely, couldn’t agree more.
Let’s also cash in on Pienaar and Arteta and replace them with Richard Gough and Davey Weir. Then we can have seven centre-halves in the starting eleven a la Walter Smith.
Absolute rubbish laddie. Get on with your work!
Let’s also cash in on Pienaar and Arteta and replace them with Richard Gough and Davey Weir. Then we can have seven centre-halves in the starting eleven a la Walter Smith.
Absolute rubbish laddie. Get on with your work!
When you are building a team, you do not sell your best assets. Cahill is one of our major strengths please be realistic not opportunistic. Look were short term opportunism has got Newcastle, Spurs, Man. City etc.
Out of position for the first half.
Cahill is one of our best players, we?ll need him in the squad if we?re going to progress next season... ?cashing in? would be a false economy.
The person I would like to see us get a fee for is Osman. I know he?s had injury problems and he?s certainly skillful, but Saturday showed up his frailties once again, he can?t tackle and when it really matters he can?t make an impact. If we can grab a couple of million for him, I say we should thank him for his service to the club and put the money towards a more complete replacement.
The most idiotic post I have read in a while. I will not make any further comments on this one.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Quality!
While Fellaini is playing in Cahill’s role, he is asked to defend more which he does, he isn’t as noticed without the goals but he not less effective.
When we get a defensive midfielder or Arteta back, cahill pushes on again and job done.
He is filling in where needed.
I would always have Cahill in every team every week, he scores and tackles and gives his all. MOST teams in the prem apart from pssibly 4 would have Cahill in thier team, he is the heart beat!!
Quality!
While Fellaini is playing in Cahill’s role, he is asked to defend more which he does, he isn’t as noticed without the goals but he not less effective.
When we get a defensive midfielder or Arteta back, cahill pushes on again and job done.
He is filling in where needed.
I would always have Cahill in every team every week, he scores and tackles and gives his all. MOST teams in the prem apart from pssibly 4 would have Cahill in thier team, he is the heart beat!!
Chris, quite simply you either do not go to many games or you are an idiot. I am sure that the majority will agree with me in that Cahill is well on his way to becoming an Everton Legend ? enough said.
Hibbert and Osman cost us that Match really. OK, well helped a huge amout towards the defaeat.
Hibbert was lost and Osman does not have the pace to cover.
You only have to cmpare them to our left side to see they both need replacing.
Hibbert was lost and Osman does not have the pace to cover.
You only have to cmpare them to our left side to see they both need replacing.
Err, in a word ’no’. Next!
Get rid of Cahill, you mad man! He garauntees goals every season and is key to are spirit in the squad, and he?s good around the place and loves this club.
It's other areas that need to be looked at this summer, like are whole right-hand side, because, as good as Hibbert does sometimes, he just isn't good enough for where were wanting to be and neither is Osman. He can do it versus the lesser teams or teams close to us but versus the top four he goes seriously missing.
Both were shocking in final, and Neville needs replacing as the holding midfielder because he?s just not the answer, not good enough if we're to seriously compete and have a go at breaking the top four!!
I?d get rid of Anichebe as well, morngy, lazy bastard, I saw Hull are prepared to go back in for him this summer and prepared to pay up to £4m, I'd snap their hands of that!!
If the board could seriously back Moyes this summer (which I seriously doubt they will... well, I know they won't!) then maybe we could give it a really good go at breaking the top four next year. This summer, more than any, we seriously need to invest in our squad because the teams below us like Spurs, Villa, Man City and now Pompey and maybe even Fulham will all go out and spend and if we don't we will get left behind!!
I know it's a big ask but we need at least three quality signings that can just walk straight into our team next year. People like Moutinho, M?Bia and Owen if he?ll take the massive pay cut. and then maybe some good squad players on Bosmans like Sean Davis, he would be good cover in midfield, you?ve got to admit he?s a lot better than Neville and Osman. I think if we could get those in our squad we?ll be pretty decent along with a few other additions hopefully?!! But let's wait and see, eh?
It is certainly going to be a dilemma as to how to fit in Arteta, Nevile, Fellaini, Rodwell and Cahill into the team next year. Which is why I think Moutinho would be a waste of money that would be better off spent elsewhere. Two right-sided players for starters...
Or Joleon, or Pienaar, or... I really can?t see Moyes wanting to cash in on many of the players who have hauled us up the table, least of all Tim. Now go read that Cahill/Arteta interview again!
Sell Cahill?! Only if the transfer fee would cover the cost of a new stadium.
Ok his range of passing isn’t great for the position he occupied in the first half, but that’s not his normal position. In the second half he swapped with Fellaini and was much more involved, until he took a knock mid-way through. Everyone sitting by me, myself included, thought that was it for him as he limped around for ten mins or so. He was less effective after that but still got involved as much as he could.
I see Cahill as everything you could want in a Everton player. He never gives less than 100% no matter where he plays. His workrate inspires the players around him. Other teams hate him because he’s a niggly player; he’ll tap your ankles, barge into you, but he’s always identified as our major threat. Plus, he’s been carrying a shoulder injury since before Christmas. The strapping he had on at the cup final, he’s had that on for six months but do you hear him complain about a rest?
When I got home from the semi-final I watched the game on ITV. The interview with Cahill had me, a grown man, welling up. The way he spoke about the club and the fans made my chest swell with pride, and I believe him, which is a difficult task in an age of spoilt millionaires. It was the way he spoke about his affection for Millwall because they’d given him a chance over here. He feels the same for us because we gave him the chance at this level.
I was too young to appreciate Reid, Sharp, Sheedy etc., and only saw Southall in his twlight years. Duncan was the high point for my generation. So for me, Cahill already is a legend.
So, no mate, I wholeheartedly disagree with you there.
Ok his range of passing isn’t great for the position he occupied in the first half, but that’s not his normal position. In the second half he swapped with Fellaini and was much more involved, until he took a knock mid-way through. Everyone sitting by me, myself included, thought that was it for him as he limped around for ten mins or so. He was less effective after that but still got involved as much as he could.
I see Cahill as everything you could want in a Everton player. He never gives less than 100% no matter where he plays. His workrate inspires the players around him. Other teams hate him because he’s a niggly player; he’ll tap your ankles, barge into you, but he’s always identified as our major threat. Plus, he’s been carrying a shoulder injury since before Christmas. The strapping he had on at the cup final, he’s had that on for six months but do you hear him complain about a rest?
When I got home from the semi-final I watched the game on ITV. The interview with Cahill had me, a grown man, welling up. The way he spoke about the club and the fans made my chest swell with pride, and I believe him, which is a difficult task in an age of spoilt millionaires. It was the way he spoke about his affection for Millwall because they’d given him a chance over here. He feels the same for us because we gave him the chance at this level.
I was too young to appreciate Reid, Sharp, Sheedy etc., and only saw Southall in his twlight years. Duncan was the high point for my generation. So for me, Cahill already is a legend.
So, no mate, I wholeheartedly disagree with you there.
Chris, I?ve been saying the same as you for a while now.
For me this season?s proven that a) he?s not a consistent enough goal scorer to be classed as an outright striker and b) our midfield performs far better when he?s not in it.
Next season, when our long term injuries are back on their feet and (hopefully) Moyes has been able to bring in one or two worthwhile additions, I can easily see him being relegated to being a bit part player. Admittedly he?ll still be a useful squad member but, at this stage of his career, he?d probably be hoping for more than that.
He?s been a prominent figure this season, which may have boosted his price beyond his actual worth. It?s not hard to imagine another manager wanting a high profile capture like him and offering a decent sum. If that happens, it would definitely be tempting to cash in on him before his value drops sharply, both on and off the pitch.
David Moyes seems to be Alex Ferguson?s most astute student and, as I said in an earlier thread, Sir Alex is the master of moving players on at just the right time. I doubt that lesson has been lost on Moyes.
For me this season?s proven that a) he?s not a consistent enough goal scorer to be classed as an outright striker and b) our midfield performs far better when he?s not in it.
Next season, when our long term injuries are back on their feet and (hopefully) Moyes has been able to bring in one or two worthwhile additions, I can easily see him being relegated to being a bit part player. Admittedly he?ll still be a useful squad member but, at this stage of his career, he?d probably be hoping for more than that.
He?s been a prominent figure this season, which may have boosted his price beyond his actual worth. It?s not hard to imagine another manager wanting a high profile capture like him and offering a decent sum. If that happens, it would definitely be tempting to cash in on him before his value drops sharply, both on and off the pitch.
David Moyes seems to be Alex Ferguson?s most astute student and, as I said in an earlier thread, Sir Alex is the master of moving players on at just the right time. I doubt that lesson has been lost on Moyes.
Don’t you dare suggest we should sell Timmy. He is dedicated to our Club and the fans and gives 100%. If he had been played up front with Fellani or Saha last Saturday he would have probably have scored one of his unbelievable goals. If you want to sell a Timmy, I suggest its Tim Howard. After all he was responsible for not saving Lampard’s goal on Saturday which was our downfall. I am still hurting and wish we could play the game all over again. By al that’s holy, we deserved to hav e our name on the Cup after beating Aston Villa, Middlesborough, Man Utd. and the Shite. Look at the records. Think I am right in saying when a Club has beaten Middlesborough they have never won the Cup!! Up in smoke also goes the theory that whoever scores first in the Final has never lost and goes on to win the Cup,. Don’t tell me we have set another record!!!
Sell Howard as well, he is good but not great.
Cahill is our talisman, our iconic leader. When Cahill plays we generally win, when he has been injured we tend to struggle. Look at the second half of this season, he’s been fit and we’ve done well despite injuries to key players, which shows Cahill is our most important player. When he was rested against Man City we struggled for performance and ultimately lost the game.
Neville and Cahill are our real two leaders who drag the team forward. They are winners. We need them both to move forward.
Neville and Cahill are our real two leaders who drag the team forward. They are winners. We need them both to move forward.
There’s going to be a lot of these knee-jerk postings in the next few weeks, given what happened at Wembley. Cahill and Fellaini don’t work when Arteta is missing, as Ben Chambers says above. They simply cancel eachother out.
I wouldn’t condemn just on the Cup Final performance. You have to remember that the majority of those players have played most of the season and surely must have been approaching knackered before you added 100 degree heat and a team full of multi-million pound internationals to break down.
That said, there were a couple of glaringly inadequate players who were found out in spectacular style. I am not one of the "Knock Ossie and Hibbo for the hell of it" brigade, but I am afraid a love of the club does not make you a brilliant player. God knows, I love the club, but I would have been shite down the right, too, on Saturday. Hibbo’s cause wasn’t helped by his early and unjustified booking, but he also wasn’t helped by Ossies woeful lack of cover.
We are where we are because of the likes of Cahill and his skill, coupled with his never say die attitude. A couple more like him are required, not one less!
If Moyesie can do his usual conjuring trick with loans, lower division gems and youngsters this close season and we get Mickey, Yak and Jags back early doors, I am confident that the Sky4 are going to be seriously looking over their collective shoulders next season.
Lets reflect on this season’s performance. 5th place again, Europe again and runners-up in the FA Cup. Who wouldn’t have taken that after 6 games of last season?
Well done Blues. I am proud to be lucky enough to have been born a blue.
I wouldn’t condemn just on the Cup Final performance. You have to remember that the majority of those players have played most of the season and surely must have been approaching knackered before you added 100 degree heat and a team full of multi-million pound internationals to break down.
That said, there were a couple of glaringly inadequate players who were found out in spectacular style. I am not one of the "Knock Ossie and Hibbo for the hell of it" brigade, but I am afraid a love of the club does not make you a brilliant player. God knows, I love the club, but I would have been shite down the right, too, on Saturday. Hibbo’s cause wasn’t helped by his early and unjustified booking, but he also wasn’t helped by Ossies woeful lack of cover.
We are where we are because of the likes of Cahill and his skill, coupled with his never say die attitude. A couple more like him are required, not one less!
If Moyesie can do his usual conjuring trick with loans, lower division gems and youngsters this close season and we get Mickey, Yak and Jags back early doors, I am confident that the Sky4 are going to be seriously looking over their collective shoulders next season.
Lets reflect on this season’s performance. 5th place again, Europe again and runners-up in the FA Cup. Who wouldn’t have taken that after 6 games of last season?
Well done Blues. I am proud to be lucky enough to have been born a blue.
And another thing....Timmy had an injury in the second half to his hip through a foul, but did he write around on the ground like those Chelsea ponces... no he carried on playing to the end. There was no way he was coming off and you could see he was in difficulty. At the end of the game you only had to look at his face to see he was near to tears like some of us. He loves the Club and he loves us and I wish we had a few more like him.
When Arteta doesnt play, its easy to see we dont have half the skill. When Cahill doesnt play, its even easier to see we dont have half the heart and fight. One game this season he was brought off at half time as a precaution (either West Brom or Stoke at home) and it was no coincedence that our midfield was played through much easier. Even when I tuned into 606 back in the car, the pundit said that had Cahill been on their midfield wouldnt have dominated because Cahill ’wouldnt have let them’! Thankfully we still won that game, but to me it tipified his importance to us!
Just look at the team’s stats with Cahill is in the side and when Cahill’s not in the side...
We’d be pushing near the top, such is our form when he’s in the side!
Love the guy.
We’d be pushing near the top, such is our form when he’s in the side!
Love the guy.
Is it April Fools Day already?
As it is our squad is already lacking enough players, and we are about to have a few less with Jo, Shandy and possibly Valente on their way. But yet some of you are suggesting we sell off some of the few players we have left! HELLO????? Players like Osman and Hibbert may not be first team material, but we still need squad players. Also, as far as Cahill is concerned, he is the heart and soul of the team. Look back at how badly the team played when he was out. Cash in on him? NUTS!
So that went down well!! Your ever loving brother.
Aiden Doyle......or is it Susan Boyle?
Fuck me! Funny Farm or what!
Fuck me! Funny Farm or what!
Chris, were you involved in us selling Alan Ball as well?
Thanks everyone for your comments good to know people read all the letters sent in! My 15 minutes of fame is over and less embarrassing than Has Britain got Talent!!
No No No No No No NO!!!
Lets put it into context.
Cahill is important, his hard work and never say die attitude is important.
Also, he scores some key goals, and we love him.
BUT no player is bigger than the team. If we could replace him with a better player then all is good.
If the city or someone wanted to pay big big bucks for him, then yes ok. I mean, 15/20million would be a great return on a 29 year old.
Technically he isnt the best midifelder in the world, and if we wanted to develop the team technically then he wouldn’t be first on the team sheet.
In fact, come next season he will not be first on the team sheet. Fellaini will probably over take, add to that the return of Arteta and hope fully a signing or 2 in midfield and upfront.
So the idea is not ridiculous. I wouldnt try and sell him, but better players do exist.
Cahill is important, his hard work and never say die attitude is important.
Also, he scores some key goals, and we love him.
BUT no player is bigger than the team. If we could replace him with a better player then all is good.
If the city or someone wanted to pay big big bucks for him, then yes ok. I mean, 15/20million would be a great return on a 29 year old.
Technically he isnt the best midifelder in the world, and if we wanted to develop the team technically then he wouldn’t be first on the team sheet.
In fact, come next season he will not be first on the team sheet. Fellaini will probably over take, add to that the return of Arteta and hope fully a signing or 2 in midfield and upfront.
So the idea is not ridiculous. I wouldnt try and sell him, but better players do exist.
Also Michael:
I am sure one of your main criticisms of Everton under moyes is how we a hard-working but not pretty on the eye team. Howevre, this is the type of team Tim Cahill thrives in.
He is a key ’spirit’ of the team, very true. But what if you want to change that spirit. i.e one that is more about retaining posession and ball on the ground.
I love TC, but no1 is unsellable.
I am sure one of your main criticisms of Everton under moyes is how we a hard-working but not pretty on the eye team. Howevre, this is the type of team Tim Cahill thrives in.
He is a key ’spirit’ of the team, very true. But what if you want to change that spirit. i.e one that is more about retaining posession and ball on the ground.
I love TC, but no1 is unsellable.
We’re a better midfield without him?
I suggest you have a look atr the results with and without him over the last few seasons - Cahill is vital for us, as vital in many ways as Arteta
I suggest you have a look atr the results with and without him over the last few seasons - Cahill is vital for us, as vital in many ways as Arteta
Paul, yes, the midfield did perform better without him. The most fluid, creative and, above all, most effective midfield play we?ve seen for years occurred when Arteta, Fellaini, Neville, Osman and Pienaar were in the middle of the park, whilst Cahill was pushed up to the front. When you consider the continuing emergence of Jack Rodwell & the possibility of further strengthening in the summer, you?ve got to figure that Cahill?s going to become increasingly marginalised.
I would not be happy if Cahill did anything else other than retire with us blues.
As for getting rid of Osman I would have to disagree. He had a shit game because he’s not a RW, Cahill would look just as bad out there. For me, Osman is the perfect bench warmer for Cahill, they are both in the whole players and with Osman, you know he would be happy sitting on standby for Timmy.
We need a RW and a RB so hibbo has someone to warm the bench for.
Next I would probably ship out Neville and give Cahill the vice captain role.
As for getting rid of Osman I would have to disagree. He had a shit game because he’s not a RW, Cahill would look just as bad out there. For me, Osman is the perfect bench warmer for Cahill, they are both in the whole players and with Osman, you know he would be happy sitting on standby for Timmy.
We need a RW and a RB so hibbo has someone to warm the bench for.
Next I would probably ship out Neville and give Cahill the vice captain role.
Paul Crawford, you got it exactly right.
Cahill is the heartbeat of this team and probably our single most respected player, inside the club and out.
Sell Tiny Tim? Idiocy.
Never.
Cahill is the heartbeat of this team and probably our single most respected player, inside the club and out.
Sell Tiny Tim? Idiocy.
Never.
I would keep Tim and sell Fellani, If i could get two thirds of that 15m back and i would be happy and use it to buy 2 right sided players, he don’t fit into the style of play i want to see played
Im not necassarily agreeing however in reference to moving players on at the right time.
Beckham was Man Ure through and through but was shifted at the correct time...
Henry ’ad an ’ardon for his beloved Arse but was shifted on at what now appears to be the perfect time..
Beckham was Man Ure through and through but was shifted at the correct time...
Henry ’ad an ’ardon for his beloved Arse but was shifted on at what now appears to be the perfect time..
Perfect time meaning Arsenal have won nothing since and his new club Barcelona just won the champions league?
Martin Beesley: Sell Fellaini for 10mil?????? joking surely, surely. other wise that is the most riduculous comment.
Of all the fans I speak to, Fellaini is the player they look at and say, ’he’s gonna be fuckin class in 2 years’.
Man Utd, Arsenal and even Liverpool fans whom I know have all been saying this very thing. They would all love him at their club. If we were to sell him now, we could get 20million.
Have you read the papers, ok i disagree with alot of journo stuff, but every single football observer is saying how brilliant he looks.
His touch is phenomenal. The main problem is, he isnt a striker as weve played him, nor an attacking midfield player in the mould of cahill.
However, him next to Arteta with Neville (or in future, a holding midfield player poss Rodwell) will improve our style of play tenfold.
He almost has evreything, but due to him adapting, constant changes to our style of play due to injuries, we havnt had a settled midfield.
He is the one player in our team with potential to be world class, and you wanna sell him for less than the cost of AJ.
Next season, Premieship young player of the season will be Fellaini.
Of all the fans I speak to, Fellaini is the player they look at and say, ’he’s gonna be fuckin class in 2 years’.
Man Utd, Arsenal and even Liverpool fans whom I know have all been saying this very thing. They would all love him at their club. If we were to sell him now, we could get 20million.
Have you read the papers, ok i disagree with alot of journo stuff, but every single football observer is saying how brilliant he looks.
His touch is phenomenal. The main problem is, he isnt a striker as weve played him, nor an attacking midfield player in the mould of cahill.
However, him next to Arteta with Neville (or in future, a holding midfield player poss Rodwell) will improve our style of play tenfold.
He almost has evreything, but due to him adapting, constant changes to our style of play due to injuries, we havnt had a settled midfield.
He is the one player in our team with potential to be world class, and you wanna sell him for less than the cost of AJ.
Next season, Premieship young player of the season will be Fellaini.
Are you on glue mate? Our most talismanic player and you want to get rid of him. Next you’ll be saying ’get rid of Jagielka, he didn’t play in the final what’s he ever done for the club’.......
Its all about opinions mate, i don’t rate him and i have heard experts and fans question his his abilty who agree with me, what is his position? to me only time he has played ok is up front when we had no forwards, he’s not a holding midfield player or attacking midfield player, so what is he? he never sprints he jogs, he can’t pass, can’t take anyone on. with Arteta fit its him, neville and Cahill in midfield for me with the Yak up front, peanuts wide left, and at mo Osman wide right, so he wont be in my team so sell him and buy the right sided players we need as i predict we won’t have lots of cash to spend again without selling. i want to see the style of game Barca and Arsenal play and they would never have him in there team
what a frighteniing thought, you make me sick
We get roughly twice as many points per game with Cahill in the side as we do without him.
End of discussion.
End of discussion.
And it seems like only yesterday I was a lone voice in proclaiming Tiny’s value.
Just heard from my mates next door neighbour who was staying 8 miles from Goodison the night before the Cup Final that Cahill is on his way out and the Riquelme is deffo coming this year.
Selling our players to bring in new ones is not the answer. I agree we need new players but even Hibbert and Osman should be held onto as squad players.
Tim Cahill is the heart of this team. Players love playing with him and he sets a good example for the club and has a huge following down under.
He has a better goal record per game than both Lampard and Gerrard, is humble enough to play anywhere the manager needs him and is to my knowledge is the only Everton player to be nominated for the Ballon d’Or in recent years.
Add to that he loves the club (EFC is in his Tattoo and he has said as much before). He is class.
Tim Cahill is the heart of this team. Players love playing with him and he sets a good example for the club and has a huge following down under.
He has a better goal record per game than both Lampard and Gerrard, is humble enough to play anywhere the manager needs him and is to my knowledge is the only Everton player to be nominated for the Ballon d’Or in recent years.
Add to that he loves the club (EFC is in his Tattoo and he has said as much before). He is class.
If a man offered to buy your heart would you sell it?
Chris, I can sum up your post in one word... Never!
Chris, I can sum up your post in one word... Never!
IDIOT!
this kind of thing makes me embarrassed to be an evertonian!
you do not sell your best players!!! and do u really want to see cahill scoring in the champions league for another club!
get a grip!
this kind of thing makes me embarrassed to be an evertonian!
you do not sell your best players!!! and do u really want to see cahill scoring in the champions league for another club!
get a grip!
Have you been drinking ? The man is already an Everton legend. Admittedly he’s not as effective when not played in an advanced role, but that’s not his decision. He plays for the shirt. I wish he was Irish!
Exactly my thoughts at this time last season, he is good, but he was a bargain... in fact most of our players are bargains.. apart from the proven goalscorer and the midfield powerhouse.. at the moment we can’t even muster enough to buy anybody so if we get the chance to receive crazy money like 25 mil from some mediterranean team we should take it... i remember i had madrid in my mind last year so it must have been a plausible option at the time, because he’s australian he’s a great commercial asset, especially to a team like that..
it will be horrible day if it does ever happen though, he’s probably my favourite player in the team, our best player this season i reckon, just for that patch when we were grinding out the results, and he is the epitomy of everything this team has achieved. but when alls considered maybe other players would give us better options, 25 mil+ shouldnt be sniffed at in my opinion, it would definitely need to be that high though because we all know what happens once a team receives a massive transfer fee, they receive massive quotations.
so in that respect maybe we’re just best off keeping it as it is.. i’d certainly get a softer spot for madrid if he was playing though so they may be inclined to spend it..
i think ossie would be the next man to go.. love the man, love his spirit, love his style and his goals but if offered 7/8 million would be happy to let him go and have his payday somewhere else, great servant, great player, but if we had somebody really really special in there imagine the damage we could inflict!
oh and actually i’d swap pienaar for somebody that can get a shot on target any day of the week... theyre gonna have to go before they can come so we should be ready for a reality check.
come on you blue boys!!!
it will be horrible day if it does ever happen though, he’s probably my favourite player in the team, our best player this season i reckon, just for that patch when we were grinding out the results, and he is the epitomy of everything this team has achieved. but when alls considered maybe other players would give us better options, 25 mil+ shouldnt be sniffed at in my opinion, it would definitely need to be that high though because we all know what happens once a team receives a massive transfer fee, they receive massive quotations.
so in that respect maybe we’re just best off keeping it as it is.. i’d certainly get a softer spot for madrid if he was playing though so they may be inclined to spend it..
i think ossie would be the next man to go.. love the man, love his spirit, love his style and his goals but if offered 7/8 million would be happy to let him go and have his payday somewhere else, great servant, great player, but if we had somebody really really special in there imagine the damage we could inflict!
oh and actually i’d swap pienaar for somebody that can get a shot on target any day of the week... theyre gonna have to go before they can come so we should be ready for a reality check.
come on you blue boys!!!
Chris,
We owe you our debt of gratitude for the entertainment. Can anyone name a smaller guy on the planet that threats in the air as Tiger Tim?
Let?s be honest guys, we fought and we fight, that is what we do. We also bring in a teenager to save the day and Chelski has the luxury of bringing on the sub, German captain. So we rest a bit and get back to the fight in a few weeks.
We owe you our debt of gratitude for the entertainment. Can anyone name a smaller guy on the planet that threats in the air as Tiger Tim?
Let?s be honest guys, we fought and we fight, that is what we do. We also bring in a teenager to save the day and Chelski has the luxury of bringing on the sub, German captain. So we rest a bit and get back to the fight in a few weeks.
This is possibly the most ridiculous post.
Sell Cahill - obscene.
And Fran (once again) is spot on about Big Fell. The kid is going to be very, very good in the very near future. He’s already shown incredible signs of maturing. His challenges can still be clumsy. But the way he cut down on cards substantially to me shows he must be listening to instruction, and changing only for the better the way he approaches key aspects of his game. Couple that in with a sublime touch and control.
But back to the original point: off load Cahill. My God. I’m sorry, it’s lunacy.
AND - he’s the one player I point out to my kids: THAT’S how you play and approach any game or sport. He’s the one shining example of a PROFESSIONAL who should be exemplified, copied, imitated, et al. COMPLETE CLASS!
Sell Cahill - obscene.
And Fran (once again) is spot on about Big Fell. The kid is going to be very, very good in the very near future. He’s already shown incredible signs of maturing. His challenges can still be clumsy. But the way he cut down on cards substantially to me shows he must be listening to instruction, and changing only for the better the way he approaches key aspects of his game. Couple that in with a sublime touch and control.
But back to the original point: off load Cahill. My God. I’m sorry, it’s lunacy.
AND - he’s the one player I point out to my kids: THAT’S how you play and approach any game or sport. He’s the one shining example of a PROFESSIONAL who should be exemplified, copied, imitated, et al. COMPLETE CLASS!
Yes, let's sell Cahill and then watch him become one of the biggest stars of the game next World Cup.....
Cahill and Jags are the rocks of our team, its like manure selling ferdinand or fat boy, or arsenal selling fabregas or chelski selling terry or lampard. Money is worthless no matter how much it is if we cant replace what we have sold, and for all reasons not just performances on the pitch CAHILL IS IRREPLACABLE!!!
chris,here in oz we have a name for people like you
ITs about continuous improvement. But Cahil is a dilemma. We want to improve the team which means making tough clinical decisions. But I remember when Cahill came back from his long injury, the lift in the team was remarkable. When Manny was playing while he was injured I remember us saying time for Timmy to go. But he came back so strong. No I’m on the side of what he brings to the team in terms of spirit is worth more than an individual for us. He must stay.
No chance, he’s proven his worth this season.
I don’t worship him like alot of fans but I know improvement when I see it, his all round performances have been alot better this season and he’s done it in three different positions.
9 goals, solid in the middle of the park, good behind the striker and excellent leading the line. He’s had a very good season to be fair to him.
We should be adding to players like Phil Jagielka, Tim Cahill, Mikel Arteta and Aiyegbeni Yakubu. There’s definitely something to build on there, a good base.
I don’t worship him like alot of fans but I know improvement when I see it, his all round performances have been alot better this season and he’s done it in three different positions.
9 goals, solid in the middle of the park, good behind the striker and excellent leading the line. He’s had a very good season to be fair to him.
We should be adding to players like Phil Jagielka, Tim Cahill, Mikel Arteta and Aiyegbeni Yakubu. There’s definitely something to build on there, a good base.
Chris, You are a TIT mate, and replace with who, costing What!!
Alex Ferguson does not "do" sentiment and moves players on when he thinks they are on the wain.
Cahill is 29 and will, I fear, struggle with more injuries when he hits 30 as all the effort he has put in takes its toll. I think his talismanic for the team quality is greater than his actual footballing ability. As a midfielder technically he is quite limited and lacks real pace - of course his will to win and goal tally has always made up for this.
So selling him on should only be considered if the fee was very big and there was a better replacement coming in that could similarly inspire. I’m not sure if such a player is out there at an affordable price.
Cahill is 29 and will, I fear, struggle with more injuries when he hits 30 as all the effort he has put in takes its toll. I think his talismanic for the team quality is greater than his actual footballing ability. As a midfielder technically he is quite limited and lacks real pace - of course his will to win and goal tally has always made up for this.
So selling him on should only be considered if the fee was very big and there was a better replacement coming in that could similarly inspire. I’m not sure if such a player is out there at an affordable price.
I wouldn’t advocate selling Cahill for a number of reasons..firstly, he has a huge part to play. Secondly, I don’t think we’d get too many offers for him that would satisfy the esteem we hold him in.
But for people to suggesting he is ’irreplacable’....can you please explain why someone who is irreplacable has lost his position to Fellaini?
Cahill displays the Everton spirit..and what an asset he is for embracing that spirit..but he is NOT the everton spirit - merely an emanation of it. There will come a time when he may be an impact player from the bench, and that time may be coming quite soon.
...because to be honest, it’s either him or Fellaini...
But for people to suggesting he is ’irreplacable’....can you please explain why someone who is irreplacable has lost his position to Fellaini?
Cahill displays the Everton spirit..and what an asset he is for embracing that spirit..but he is NOT the everton spirit - merely an emanation of it. There will come a time when he may be an impact player from the bench, and that time may be coming quite soon.
...because to be honest, it’s either him or Fellaini...
I dont think we should sell cahill, though I do think we’ve all seen enough to realise he is much more effective up front or behind the striker than he is in central midfield.
We do need to work on our right side though. Neither hibbert or osman are good enough to be regular starters in a side with ambitions to be regularly challenging for silverware. Neville is also not a complete enough central midfielder, so best to move him to RB, keep hibbert as backup.
Ossie should be kept on for his versatility and he does have genuine quality, so he’d make a decent option on the bench. We are crying out for a top quality right winger with pace which I hope Moyes will sort out this season.
Central midfield should probably be composed from 2 of fellaini, arteta, rodwell. You could argue we need another creative midfielder to assist arteta.
We do need to work on our right side though. Neither hibbert or osman are good enough to be regular starters in a side with ambitions to be regularly challenging for silverware. Neville is also not a complete enough central midfielder, so best to move him to RB, keep hibbert as backup.
Ossie should be kept on for his versatility and he does have genuine quality, so he’d make a decent option on the bench. We are crying out for a top quality right winger with pace which I hope Moyes will sort out this season.
Central midfield should probably be composed from 2 of fellaini, arteta, rodwell. You could argue we need another creative midfielder to assist arteta.
Alls i will say to that is.You obviousley have not got a clue what your talking about.I would even qustion if your a blue.Sought your head out.Outrageous comment.
Everton are simply not the same team when Cahill doesn’t play.
Since Arteta got injured we have had to sacrifice Cahill’s strikers intincts because he has been needed in midfield - and that is because the midfield was simply not good enough with Fellaini in the middle and Cahill in the supporting strikers role - as such we HAD to switch these two players for the benefit of the team.
Yes Cahill struggled to make an impact on Saturday but so did most of the team. However we should remember that Cahill has been one of the main reasons our season did not end when Arteta got injured in February. Most people would admit we all thought that would be the case, I certianly did.
So lets get a bit of perspective here. We have finished 5th in the league and got to the cup final, losing to one of the top teams in Europe by a single goal - we are making massive progress.
The cup final merely confirmed what most Evertonians and I suspect Moyes already knew - that our right hand side is not good enough if we want to progress - lets see who he signs in the summer before jumping to any conclusions.
I actually believe the player who is struggling most to fit into the team when the injured players return is Fellaini - Cahill is far more effective in the supporting striker role than him and he just does not have the pace to play in a midfield 4 at the moment.
Since Arteta got injured we have had to sacrifice Cahill’s strikers intincts because he has been needed in midfield - and that is because the midfield was simply not good enough with Fellaini in the middle and Cahill in the supporting strikers role - as such we HAD to switch these two players for the benefit of the team.
Yes Cahill struggled to make an impact on Saturday but so did most of the team. However we should remember that Cahill has been one of the main reasons our season did not end when Arteta got injured in February. Most people would admit we all thought that would be the case, I certianly did.
So lets get a bit of perspective here. We have finished 5th in the league and got to the cup final, losing to one of the top teams in Europe by a single goal - we are making massive progress.
The cup final merely confirmed what most Evertonians and I suspect Moyes already knew - that our right hand side is not good enough if we want to progress - lets see who he signs in the summer before jumping to any conclusions.
I actually believe the player who is struggling most to fit into the team when the injured players return is Fellaini - Cahill is far more effective in the supporting striker role than him and he just does not have the pace to play in a midfield 4 at the moment.
Cahill is my Alan Ball!
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Some ludicrous comparisons being made here between Cahill and Fellaini. Fact is that next season you will see Fellaini in his proper position: Centre midfield. Really he is a box-to-box player, but Moyes just worries about his tactical discipline and his lack of pace. Come August he will have had a full pre-season, be more attuned to the pace of the Premier League and will mature into a Vieira-type player (let?s hope he turns out as good!)
Cahill is a second striker: end of. The statistics show that we are much better with him than without him and when he plays up top we concede fewer goals, because of his work rate, chasing down, dropping back to help the midfield etc.
Unless we make some big purchases this summer then I expect Fellaini to be playing centre mid, Cahill in the hole and Arteta out wide when the season kicks off.
Cahill is a second striker: end of. The statistics show that we are much better with him than without him and when he plays up top we concede fewer goals, because of his work rate, chasing down, dropping back to help the midfield etc.
Unless we make some big purchases this summer then I expect Fellaini to be playing centre mid, Cahill in the hole and Arteta out wide when the season kicks off.
A very silly question to ask. I don’t think he is that good actually as a midfield player but he’s great in the attacking role and last time I checked , goals win matches.
We don’t want to be selling anyone! We have a tiny squad and getting rid of anyone (and especially Cahill ffs) should only be done with extreme caution.
And yes I do include Anichebe, Osman and Hibbert in that statement. Each could have a role to play... I would only sell if we had a replacement lined up that would definitely push the team forward like Glen Johnson...
And yes I do include Anichebe, Osman and Hibbert in that statement. Each could have a role to play... I would only sell if we had a replacement lined up that would definitely push the team forward like Glen Johnson...
What a great instigator this comment was. All the expected replies but in all seriousness nobody is expendable and football is a business when all said and done.
Who expected Thierry Henry to be let go by Arsenal when he did? Sometimes, when a player still has a good market value, a club has to weigh up the pros and cons... and yes, even crowd favourites are moved on. This summer already promises to be full of bogus activity and outrageous rumour mongering by the press where almost every top player in the Prem will be linked with another club?s ??interest?? and ridiculous transfer fees being speculated. Just look at today?s press as an example of what?s to come.
My view of the Michael Owen rumour is it is just that. Yes, he is a sick-note player and only a pay-as-you-play deal could be considered but, quite honestly, he is not a threat anymore.
Sell Cahill, Lescott and Pienaar to City for £50m. Sell Baines, Fellaini and the Yak to Spurs for £40m. Release Howard, Hibbo, Neville, Osman and Saha on free transfers. Sell Mikky back to Spain for £20m. Use proceeds to buy Messi and Eto?o and play the following:
Nash, Jacobsen, Yobo, Mustafi, Coleman, Gosling, Rodwell, Messi, Orenuga, Eto?o, Vaughan. No subs needed as we?ll be invincible.
Nash, Jacobsen, Yobo, Mustafi, Coleman, Gosling, Rodwell, Messi, Orenuga, Eto?o, Vaughan. No subs needed as we?ll be invincible.
Oh sorry, I found that stuff that some people on here have been smoking!
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