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I stayed in the same Hotel (The Grove) as Everton last Thursday/Friday and had the pleasure in meeting the team as well as the backroom staff. I ended up having a long conversation with Mick Rathbone about future players and our targets for the coming season.
I mentioned that the rumours were circulating on websites about Joao Moutinho and that it was mentioned that individual terms had been agreed and it was only a matter of the fee being sorted out.
This doesn't seem to be the case, Mick told me that nothing had been looked at from Everton's side and he definitly would know because of the medical aspect of it.
He did mention that the most likely targets could or would be are Darren Bent, Joe Ledley and Stuart Downing because of the wages and the kind of fee they would commmand.
Graham Cook, Posted 01/06/2009 at 07:05:42
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If we get Downing and/or Darren Bent I’ll cry
Where’s Downing gonna play? Pienaars get the left slot sorted, Bent is no better than Yak or Saha and Ledly, well I’m not convinced
Where’s Downing gonna play? Pienaars get the left slot sorted, Bent is no better than Yak or Saha and Ledly, well I’m not convinced
Yeh, I'm sure he would just admit to you who were likely to get and who were looking at... he?s not going to discuss targets with fans is he? I mean Moyes wont even tell journalists or give them a sniff of who he wants so none of the backroom staff will start bragging about signings to fans so that they can go bragging on here and getting hopes up will they?!!
And those three you mention I wouldn't even have, yeah we need a striker but I wouldn't take Bent, and we don't even need left-sided players, our left-hand side of the team is good and working already. It's down the right and centrally we need to get sorted out because in that FA Cup final we were poor down the right and Neville was shocking and showed he ain't the answer if were to seriously compete for the top four spots!!!
Definately Moutinho, he is a young, very promising and talented player and would boost the squad immensely! Also, what about Eidur Gudjohnsen from Barca, proven Premier League goalscorer and wants to return to the Premier League... any thoughts on that???
I think our main priority should be the right-side, full back and in midfield, we could drop nev back in there if moutinho comes but we need a decent right mid, maybe ledley but why not play downing there. I mean Pienaar does so well on the left and he?s right footed, why not have Downing on the right and have him cutting inside having shots on goal... could work, couldnt it????
Having chatted to my anonymous source within the club, I now declare ludicrous transfer speculation season open.
My nan’s hairdresser says her babysitter goes to school with the cousin of a ball boy, and he says we’ll be buying Kaka, The Krankies and Dale Winton.
Why do we bother listening?
Why do we bother listening?
Despite the expected raising of eyebrows, I actually think those 3 alleged transfer targets are probably accurate.
And like it or not, they would all improve our small squad.
And like it or not, they would all improve our small squad.
Come on Mac Lloyd, we could never afford the Krankies AND Dale Winton!
If they are our three summer targets when we are in trouble this summer!
Downing is over-rated and highly over-valued. Ledley is not good enough. Bent is ok but again likely to be over-valued.
Moutinho is the one we need. Right temperament. Hard worker. Skillful. Young. Versatile. Moutinho is everything we need and easily a top 4 quality player.
Downing is over-rated and highly over-valued. Ledley is not good enough. Bent is ok but again likely to be over-valued.
Moutinho is the one we need. Right temperament. Hard worker. Skillful. Young. Versatile. Moutinho is everything we need and easily a top 4 quality player.
We need a new striker, not another midfielder.
The yak probably wont come back as the player he once was after that injury (and even if he does we cant play 4-5-1 forever), vic isnt up to it, and vaughan and saha will only ever play 20 games between them each year because of injuries.
Bent would be a useful option, and actually despite all the ridicule earlier in the season - I believe he finished in the top 10 Premier League scorers list....
The yak probably wont come back as the player he once was after that injury (and even if he does we cant play 4-5-1 forever), vic isnt up to it, and vaughan and saha will only ever play 20 games between them each year because of injuries.
Bent would be a useful option, and actually despite all the ridicule earlier in the season - I believe he finished in the top 10 Premier League scorers list....
Nobody in there right minds will look at Downing until January as he is out until christmas!! As for Bent, I think Spurs would want too much for a player that could quite easily be 3rd or 4th choice striker (Yak and Saha are better, and Vaughan and Anichebe could give him a run for his money when fit too)! Ledley may be worth a look on a structured deal as Moyes has a decent track record bringing in players from the championship (Lescott, Cahill, Gosling and even Jags spent all but 1 season there)! Just wait until you see them holding a scarf up and saying how its a dream move and that they supported Everton growing up (yawn)!
Mac L
I Hope we don’t get the Krankies. Good Scottish players are few a far between these day’s. And I’m pretty sure Dale Winton’s had a bit of Scot in him at some time.
Ooh matron
We need a midfield enforcer and a pacy right winger who can hold the ball and put decent crosses in.
I think Downing although overrated could fit the bill (not Bentley please) and Mbia or Mouthino the other.
Whether we can afford them is academic.
That’s the quality we need if we are to progress.
I think Downing although overrated could fit the bill (not Bentley please) and Mbia or Mouthino the other.
Whether we can afford them is academic.
That’s the quality we need if we are to progress.
Bent is a far better better player than Saha. Less injury prone, quicker, better movement and better finisher.
Yes he is not a world class striker, however looking at our needs he would be a very good option. Young, quick, tall and something to prove. The we would have 2 quality strikers and Saha and Vaughan as subs/back-up.
Ledley again, looking at our price structures, would be a good option. would offer competition to Pienaar and Ossie, would accept not playing every game, looking to prove himself, and lower wages.
We need to bulk up our squad more than we need moutinho. We have mikel arteta and fellaini and cahill as top quality central midfielders. Moutinho would be excellent if he was op-top of everything else we need, but he isnt. He’ll be 15mil minimum, while we could spend that on both bent and ledley. with probably the same amount being paid for wages.
One i’d like us to look at would be Nakamura from celtic. can play accross midfield, creative excellant at dead balls and on a free transfer.
Yes he is not a world class striker, however looking at our needs he would be a very good option. Young, quick, tall and something to prove. The we would have 2 quality strikers and Saha and Vaughan as subs/back-up.
Ledley again, looking at our price structures, would be a good option. would offer competition to Pienaar and Ossie, would accept not playing every game, looking to prove himself, and lower wages.
We need to bulk up our squad more than we need moutinho. We have mikel arteta and fellaini and cahill as top quality central midfielders. Moutinho would be excellent if he was op-top of everything else we need, but he isnt. He’ll be 15mil minimum, while we could spend that on both bent and ledley. with probably the same amount being paid for wages.
One i’d like us to look at would be Nakamura from celtic. can play accross midfield, creative excellant at dead balls and on a free transfer.
Jay,
we need two midfielders? You do know we can only play a maximum of 5, practically, dont you?
Cahill, Arteta, Fellaini, Pienaar, Rodwell, Osman, + your 2 additions (and im being generous in not including neville). I can accept that 4 of those are first choice even if you bring in two others of quality.
Lets not get like spurs, who constantly collected midfielders, or newcastle who did the same (add strikers to that too - never defenders...).
We need a striker, and we need a right back. We have decent cover everywhere else.
we need two midfielders? You do know we can only play a maximum of 5, practically, dont you?
Cahill, Arteta, Fellaini, Pienaar, Rodwell, Osman, + your 2 additions (and im being generous in not including neville). I can accept that 4 of those are first choice even if you bring in two others of quality.
Lets not get like spurs, who constantly collected midfielders, or newcastle who did the same (add strikers to that too - never defenders...).
We need a striker, and we need a right back. We have decent cover everywhere else.
Joe Ledley is certainly worth having a look at, and if Anichebe’s rumour has any truth in it, it could be a great deal for both party, as Anichebe can get his much needed first team run and we get our hand onto another young talented player.
The F.A. Cup Final has really highlighted our main problem we honestly need a natural winger and I believe "Joao Moutinho" is our solution.
It goes without saying we just don’t have much transfer fund, so after buying the winger and let’s hope is Joao Moutinho.
After that we just don’t have money to get a RB as well, wouldn’t you say offer Jacobsen a new contract would save us having to spend more money on a RB as well, wouldn’t you agree he has done well enough and deserve to stay with us.
The F.A. Cup Final has really highlighted our main problem we honestly need a natural winger and I believe "Joao Moutinho" is our solution.
It goes without saying we just don’t have much transfer fund, so after buying the winger and let’s hope is Joao Moutinho.
After that we just don’t have money to get a RB as well, wouldn’t you say offer Jacobsen a new contract would save us having to spend more money on a RB as well, wouldn’t you agree he has done well enough and deserve to stay with us.
All of the above are shite, but nevertheless the best we can attract.
Simple as that.
Simple as that.
Also, David Bentley would be an excellant signing.
Yes he is a an arrogant git, but thas life, thats footballers for you (you cant use that as a criticism, when everyone on here dreams we had Arshavin!!) besides, good players have arrogance, I would trust Moyes to get best out of him and make him channel his arrogance.
He would be one hell of an improvement to leon osman. Stronger, more creative and more consistant. At blackburn (a friend of mine is a season ticket holder) he was exceptional, i went to a few blackburn games and he really was top-quality. In 2 consecutive seasons he was in double figures for goals and had about 15 assists, in each season.
he would give us options, allow us to rest (not rely on) arteta.
He is also young and i imagine, after his fiasco at spurs, determined to prove himself.
He isnt the quickest, and we could do with an injection of pace into the side, but pace is expensive. I would rather have lack of pace with end product (i.e. good passing/crossing) than quick with no final ball.
Yes he is a an arrogant git, but thas life, thats footballers for you (you cant use that as a criticism, when everyone on here dreams we had Arshavin!!) besides, good players have arrogance, I would trust Moyes to get best out of him and make him channel his arrogance.
He would be one hell of an improvement to leon osman. Stronger, more creative and more consistant. At blackburn (a friend of mine is a season ticket holder) he was exceptional, i went to a few blackburn games and he really was top-quality. In 2 consecutive seasons he was in double figures for goals and had about 15 assists, in each season.
he would give us options, allow us to rest (not rely on) arteta.
He is also young and i imagine, after his fiasco at spurs, determined to prove himself.
He isnt the quickest, and we could do with an injection of pace into the side, but pace is expensive. I would rather have lack of pace with end product (i.e. good passing/crossing) than quick with no final ball.
Also. how many people have watch Moutinho and want him for those reasons, and how many want him purely becasue we were after him last year.
Why is he our answer? as evereyone is so insistant on. Answer to what?
He aint a winger, or a striker. He’s small.
He’s a central midfield player, in similar mould to arteta.
Yes, it would be fantastic to have both, and have our own version of Iniesta and Xavi.
BUT, Iniest and Xavi are fantastic and keep posestion, providing they can pass it to Henry, Etoo, and Messi.
First we need a right winger, then we need a right back, then we need a striker (these are all required in our first 11) add to that squad players.
What answer to our problems does moutinho bring????
I would prefer
Arteta/Neville/Fellaini
Piennar - Baines overlapping
Good right winger - good right back overlapping
Good striker
than
Arteta/Fellaini/Moutinho
Pienaar - Baines
Osman - Hibbert
Why is he our answer? as evereyone is so insistant on. Answer to what?
He aint a winger, or a striker. He’s small.
He’s a central midfield player, in similar mould to arteta.
Yes, it would be fantastic to have both, and have our own version of Iniesta and Xavi.
BUT, Iniest and Xavi are fantastic and keep posestion, providing they can pass it to Henry, Etoo, and Messi.
First we need a right winger, then we need a right back, then we need a striker (these are all required in our first 11) add to that squad players.
What answer to our problems does moutinho bring????
I would prefer
Arteta/Neville/Fellaini
Piennar - Baines overlapping
Good right winger - good right back overlapping
Good striker
than
Arteta/Fellaini/Moutinho
Pienaar - Baines
Osman - Hibbert
Downing is a definite no go. We have a very strong left hand side with a Piennar cutting in onto his right and Baines overlapping. The only way Moyes might be looking at him is a s a central midfielder. He played there a couple of times for Boro this season and had his best games of the campaign!? I don’t think he is the best value there though.
Moutinho is outstanding and I would love him at the club but I also agree with Fran that this position is not a prioirity. We have Rodwell coming through as well as Arteta and Neville. We will lose Castillo, but the acquisition of another striker would mean that Cahill and Felli would drop back to compete for places and a right winger would mean that Ossie would no longer have to bo shoved out wide where he struggles to influence games (see Chelsea) and could also compete for a CM position where he is lightweight but does at least cause the opposition problems with his technique and battling qualitites (see Fulham and Wigan).
I don’t know much about Ledley as a right winger. Eagles is the one I would have gone for, but Burnley aren’t going to let him go now are they?
As far as a striker is concerned, I would still try and get Owen for nothing. His high wages will be covered by merchandising and the fact that we don’t have to pay anything for him. I would put him on a three year deal, after which we will have either sold him for a profit or he will be 32 and not able to demand silly money any more.
If Owen is a no go I would not rule out Bent of the price was right. We need someone with pace, as we never really replaced AJ.
Moutinho is outstanding and I would love him at the club but I also agree with Fran that this position is not a prioirity. We have Rodwell coming through as well as Arteta and Neville. We will lose Castillo, but the acquisition of another striker would mean that Cahill and Felli would drop back to compete for places and a right winger would mean that Ossie would no longer have to bo shoved out wide where he struggles to influence games (see Chelsea) and could also compete for a CM position where he is lightweight but does at least cause the opposition problems with his technique and battling qualitites (see Fulham and Wigan).
I don’t know much about Ledley as a right winger. Eagles is the one I would have gone for, but Burnley aren’t going to let him go now are they?
As far as a striker is concerned, I would still try and get Owen for nothing. His high wages will be covered by merchandising and the fact that we don’t have to pay anything for him. I would put him on a three year deal, after which we will have either sold him for a profit or he will be 32 and not able to demand silly money any more.
If Owen is a no go I would not rule out Bent of the price was right. We need someone with pace, as we never really replaced AJ.
You’re actually wrong. He wouldn’t neccessarily know.
Personal terms are always agreed subject to a medical. We know there has been no medical.
I think it’s very likely that Moyes would keep his targets secret even from some of his backroom staff.
The less people that know the more chance we have of completing the deal.
Personal terms are always agreed subject to a medical. We know there has been no medical.
I think it’s very likely that Moyes would keep his targets secret even from some of his backroom staff.
The less people that know the more chance we have of completing the deal.
Alasdair Mackay,
If (big ’if’) we were to sign Downing, Pienaar could play on the right.
I wouldn’t touch Owen. He hasn’t looked like a footballer for about 5 years. A waste of time and effort.
If (big ’if’) we were to sign Downing, Pienaar could play on the right.
I wouldn’t touch Owen. He hasn’t looked like a footballer for about 5 years. A waste of time and effort.
The enigma with the Krankies is despite their individual talent how to get the best out of them when they BOTH play in the same side ? Also, do we really want another small player in the side ?
I have heard rumours about a Leeds player called Delph..?
Anyone think this has any legs and if so, is he actually any good?
Anyone think this has any legs and if so, is he actually any good?
A couple of random thoughts:
If we got Downing, we’d have a pacy right winger. Fellow named Pienaar.
Moutinho in the middle means Arteta and Pienaar on the flanks. Three short, quick, creative players. Didn’t we just watch a midfield like that rip ManU a new one? This would be more fun than a night in the hot tub with the Hilton sisters. And a lot cheaper.
We just bade farewell to one overrated prima donna in AVM... why in the world would we want another? I’d rather have a new Ledley or a borrowed Queresma than a used Bentley.
We don’t need another right back. Jacobsen suits me just fine with Hibbs in reserve.
Don’t believe rumors. Any of them.
If we got Downing, we’d have a pacy right winger. Fellow named Pienaar.
Moutinho in the middle means Arteta and Pienaar on the flanks. Three short, quick, creative players. Didn’t we just watch a midfield like that rip ManU a new one? This would be more fun than a night in the hot tub with the Hilton sisters. And a lot cheaper.
We just bade farewell to one overrated prima donna in AVM... why in the world would we want another? I’d rather have a new Ledley or a borrowed Queresma than a used Bentley.
We don’t need another right back. Jacobsen suits me just fine with Hibbs in reserve.
Don’t believe rumors. Any of them.
What is the facination with both Ledley & Eagles, IMO two very average players who have hardley set the championship alight, Eagles couldn’t even get in the Burnley side the latter part of the season.
We need players who are going to improve the first XI and we’re crying out for pace throughout the team. These two will do neither.
The one player I do like the look of from the Championship and wouldn’t mind us taking a punt on is the young right back, Naughton from Sheff Utd. Pacey, looks good going forward, puts in a cracking cross and safe defensively.
However with us no doubt having only a limited budget, I accept there are certainly other areas of more importance, for me a right sided & dominant central midfielder and possibly a striker are a must.
We need players who are going to improve the first XI and we’re crying out for pace throughout the team. These two will do neither.
The one player I do like the look of from the Championship and wouldn’t mind us taking a punt on is the young right back, Naughton from Sheff Utd. Pacey, looks good going forward, puts in a cracking cross and safe defensively.
However with us no doubt having only a limited budget, I accept there are certainly other areas of more importance, for me a right sided & dominant central midfielder and possibly a striker are a must.
I dont no why everybody says we need a striker. Firstly we only play one up front anyway. In Yakubu, Saha, Vaughan, Anichebe, Cahill and Fellaini; We have 5 strikers and a midfielder who could/has played there ( for cover ) Why waste money on another striker when we desperately need a pacy winger ( Aaron Lennon esque ). Osman, Arteta and Anichebe are not wingers period. We also need to offload Tony Hibbert, sign Lars for Free and bring in a yyoung top notch right back.
Oh yeh, as for a striker. Jermaine Beckford is your man. Think he’s at leeds. He is class. Somebody shit like Newcastle will probably buy him for 4m and unearth a real gem
I saw Beckford and Delph in the league one semi-final play-off at Leeds and I must say I wasn’t too impressed. But that’s only one match, I know.
If, and I mean a big If, we signed Moutinho, would this mean Arteta would go back on the right? Listening to the Moyes interview on City FM before the final, he mentioned M'Bia was his number 1 target and got the impression that he is still interested in him. If so, what would that do to the midfield?
Jermaine Beckford, is most definitely not the answer, he will turn into a good championship striker i think. I have seen him a few times up here in Yorkshire, he doesn’t look that great to be honest. As for Delph all those supposedly in the know, are raving about this boy, could be another Milner...or Lennon, both of which would probably improve our side, as i think they are both probably better than Ossie. Though i have to sayt, i like Ossie and hope he stays for the rest of his career (might be rose tinted I know, but hey ho, its only an opinion!!).
Well just to join in the silly season kick off...and due to the fact that I’m bored, how about these two conflicting rumours from the same (nameless) site....you gotta laugh
I work for the RAC. On Friday, we had a call out to the players’ car park at Goodison Park. Carlos Tevez’ car had broken down there. I wonder what he was doing there? I fixed the car but only got chance to say hello to Carlos. Nothing more was said.....and now number two!
I don’t even think this is a rumor, I am almost certain this will happen. My uncle is a journalist for The Liverpool Echo and got a chance to interview Rafa. After the interview he heard Rafa on the phone and swore to me he heard Rafa saying that he had signed Tevez! 20m. Done deal.
I work for the RAC. On Friday, we had a call out to the players’ car park at Goodison Park. Carlos Tevez’ car had broken down there. I wonder what he was doing there? I fixed the car but only got chance to say hello to Carlos. Nothing more was said.....and now number two!
I don’t even think this is a rumor, I am almost certain this will happen. My uncle is a journalist for The Liverpool Echo and got a chance to interview Rafa. After the interview he heard Rafa on the phone and swore to me he heard Rafa saying that he had signed Tevez! 20m. Done deal.
WE do need a striker. Yak needs some serious competition to keep him in top-form.
Also we might play 58+ games next season, plus African Nations. So we do need a new striker.
Saha. Will be a decent sub but is past his best. Has a decent shot, but no pace, moevement or workrate.
Anichebe. time to leave, has potential, but needs a season or 2 playing every game, a season in championship will do him good, but we need cash so loan not option but selling is.
Vaughan. We all want him to succeed. But what has he done since 2007 that makes it look like he will? nothing. when given a chance this season he looked average at best. when given a chance before injury the same. If we wanna finish 4th and win silverware, we cannot rely on Vaughan. I would like him to suceed, maybe he will at wigan or somewhere. keep as a 4th choice striker by all means, but no more than that.
Bent would be a decent shot, even if just for 1 or 2 seasons, we could make a profit and replace him with someone better later on, like with Johnson. for 8 million or so, he could bag 15-20 goals. Find another stiker who can do that for that price? he’s young so has sell on price too.
On Delph, he’s highly rated, would be great to have him and rodwell in the same team, developing together. But he will cost 5+million, can we afford that on a 16/17 year old.
Also someone meantions Quaresma. He’s already signed for Genoa for 10million, so doubt they’ll let us borrow him.
Also we might play 58+ games next season, plus African Nations. So we do need a new striker.
Saha. Will be a decent sub but is past his best. Has a decent shot, but no pace, moevement or workrate.
Anichebe. time to leave, has potential, but needs a season or 2 playing every game, a season in championship will do him good, but we need cash so loan not option but selling is.
Vaughan. We all want him to succeed. But what has he done since 2007 that makes it look like he will? nothing. when given a chance this season he looked average at best. when given a chance before injury the same. If we wanna finish 4th and win silverware, we cannot rely on Vaughan. I would like him to suceed, maybe he will at wigan or somewhere. keep as a 4th choice striker by all means, but no more than that.
Bent would be a decent shot, even if just for 1 or 2 seasons, we could make a profit and replace him with someone better later on, like with Johnson. for 8 million or so, he could bag 15-20 goals. Find another stiker who can do that for that price? he’s young so has sell on price too.
On Delph, he’s highly rated, would be great to have him and rodwell in the same team, developing together. But he will cost 5+million, can we afford that on a 16/17 year old.
Also someone meantions Quaresma. He’s already signed for Genoa for 10million, so doubt they’ll let us borrow him.
Michael Evans makes a valid point here. I like everyone else was carried away with the prospect of having another diminutive pro boosting our midfield. On reflection however, despite all the hype and his seemingly eternal youthful exhuberance, Wee Jimmy Krankie ultimately doesn’t actually add that much to our existing squad, meanwhile ’the other one’ has Van der Mayde written all over him. Sure he looks fine on video tape, but let’s face it, there’s a big difference between Crackerjack and the English top flight.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not deriding the talent available, but ultimately I just don’t see The Krankies being the right light entertainment duo to take us forward. Now if rumours about the Chuckle Brothers contract troubles are to be believed, that’s a completely different story...
Don’t get me wrong I’m not deriding the talent available, but ultimately I just don’t see The Krankies being the right light entertainment duo to take us forward. Now if rumours about the Chuckle Brothers contract troubles are to be believed, that’s a completely different story...
Jeremy
I do believe our current midfield is weak,lacking in numbers and quality.
Dont forget we also have Afcon again this Winter.
Arteta is dubious for the start of the season with some saying it may be as late as December.
Looking forward to a realistic team to challenge the Sky 4 Neville is not an option in MF and Rodwell is only coming through.
I would therefore for away games or Sky 4 games have a five man MF consisting of Pienaar Arteta Moutinho(If only) Fellaini/Cahill and pacy winger.
I believe we’re well covered up front once Yak is back and with Neville LArs and a fit and returned to form Tony Hibbert have good cover at the back although if the budget would stretch I would go for Glenn Johnson.
I cant think of another quality RB we could go for as they seem in short supply.
So bearing in mind we have Afcon and Europe to contend with I would argue we need 2 quality MFers not 1.
I do believe our current midfield is weak,lacking in numbers and quality.
Dont forget we also have Afcon again this Winter.
Arteta is dubious for the start of the season with some saying it may be as late as December.
Looking forward to a realistic team to challenge the Sky 4 Neville is not an option in MF and Rodwell is only coming through.
I would therefore for away games or Sky 4 games have a five man MF consisting of Pienaar Arteta Moutinho(If only) Fellaini/Cahill and pacy winger.
I believe we’re well covered up front once Yak is back and with Neville LArs and a fit and returned to form Tony Hibbert have good cover at the back although if the budget would stretch I would go for Glenn Johnson.
I cant think of another quality RB we could go for as they seem in short supply.
So bearing in mind we have Afcon and Europe to contend with I would argue we need 2 quality MFers not 1.
Here we go again! Its that time. A lot of comment involves Moyes bringing in a left sided winger/ midfield player and some people seem baffled by this. It dose in fact make sense when you consider that Pienaar sees himself as a central midfield player. Now I thought that until recently he was to lightweight to play in the centre but his recent performances suggest that he has toughened up considerably since he first arrived at the club. He’s a little grafter who has an eye for playing that killer ball in behind the defence.
Don’t forget that Arteta was played wide because it was believed that he was to lightweight for central midfield and look what happened when Moyes finally moved him inside. Dose anyone still want him stuck out on the wing when he can influence games to the extent that he dose in the centre? I don’t think many will. The same may well apply to Pienaar. As much as it would be nice to bring in Moutinho, I don’t think it will happen because of our limited budget. Unless we sell I don’t think that we will have any more than 15m tops to spend and you won’t get Moutinho for less than that. Don’t be surprised if Moyes goes for Ledley at say 6m and moves Pienaar inside. I am not saying that Ledley is a player that I would like to see at the club but like it or not Ledley is the type of player that Moyes seems to like.That may mean he still has some money to play with for strengthening other positions.
Don’t forget that Arteta was played wide because it was believed that he was to lightweight for central midfield and look what happened when Moyes finally moved him inside. Dose anyone still want him stuck out on the wing when he can influence games to the extent that he dose in the centre? I don’t think many will. The same may well apply to Pienaar. As much as it would be nice to bring in Moutinho, I don’t think it will happen because of our limited budget. Unless we sell I don’t think that we will have any more than 15m tops to spend and you won’t get Moutinho for less than that. Don’t be surprised if Moyes goes for Ledley at say 6m and moves Pienaar inside. I am not saying that Ledley is a player that I would like to see at the club but like it or not Ledley is the type of player that Moyes seems to like.That may mean he still has some money to play with for strengthening other positions.
Piennar in the middle might work and he could play on the right hand side as well - but he and Baines work so well together I think it would be daft to look at moving him anywhere else. If it a’int broke, don’t fix it!
A couple of names that we have been linked with in the past that will no doubt surface in the coming weeks - might be an idea to guage opinion now - Jenas? Huddlestone? Hunt? Alan Smith?
I would take either of the first two if we do go for a CM. Hunt might be a good option for the right hand side. Smith has versatility and is still only 27, might be a more realistic option given the 58+ games thing.We still need a quick striker and I can’t think of a single one!!
A couple of names that we have been linked with in the past that will no doubt surface in the coming weeks - might be an idea to guage opinion now - Jenas? Huddlestone? Hunt? Alan Smith?
I would take either of the first two if we do go for a CM. Hunt might be a good option for the right hand side. Smith has versatility and is still only 27, might be a more realistic option given the 58+ games thing.We still need a quick striker and I can’t think of a single one!!
right side, right side, right side....
We can’t link up and move forward on that side, so we hoof it up and pray someone comes down with it. We give away possession entirley too easily.
I’ve no idea what or who the answer is, but that has to be the area we improve before we look to improve any other position.
I think that’s a given Gus H. sure thought so - and he exposed the shit out of us.
right side, right side, right side.
We can’t link up and move forward on that side, so we hoof it up and pray someone comes down with it. We give away possession entirley too easily.
I’ve no idea what or who the answer is, but that has to be the area we improve before we look to improve any other position.
I think that’s a given Gus H. sure thought so - and he exposed the shit out of us.
right side, right side, right side.
Guus... whoops.
The only thing annoying about transfer window being open is that amount of tripe that we have to read and be led to believe are coming to our club. I for one think that we will be alot quicker at buying targets this year as moyes and the club know they messed up last year.
as for actual signings its funny how people right off signings straight away and think we dont want them. I am sure 99.9% of all everton fans said get shitted when we signed Pip Neville and again baines for 6m. And i bet there were alot that were not exactly wetting their pants when Jags signed.... How wrong we can be.
So what i am saying is there will be lots of rubbish rumours and i do not discount any of them as any signing is an addition we need and you never know they may even come good.
owen for me is worth the gamble, smith i would not care for but again you never know. Hunt is an average prem player but will improve the squad, huddlestone and jenas are quality. Moutinhio A BLOODY DREAM!!!
as for actual signings its funny how people right off signings straight away and think we dont want them. I am sure 99.9% of all everton fans said get shitted when we signed Pip Neville and again baines for 6m. And i bet there were alot that were not exactly wetting their pants when Jags signed.... How wrong we can be.
So what i am saying is there will be lots of rubbish rumours and i do not discount any of them as any signing is an addition we need and you never know they may even come good.
owen for me is worth the gamble, smith i would not care for but again you never know. Hunt is an average prem player but will improve the squad, huddlestone and jenas are quality. Moutinhio A BLOODY DREAM!!!
How about we just wait until July 1st when the transfer season opens. Otherwise we will just have another month to a gonize. I think we already have a crowded centre midfield and if we bought Moutinho that would be neville, rodwell, cahill,fellani, arteta and moutinho who would fill 2 or 3 spots in a midfield. WE need a right winger in place of Osman and to sign Jasobsen because he is our solution at right back because he can defend and pass the ball. 1 major problem though, we have no money and have to wait unti july for a snifff of news.
IMO we need to spend every cent on the midfield. And I am glad someone made the point - Pienaar can do just as well on the right as the left.
The issue is not that we have too many central midfielders already. The point is can we improve on any of them. If a Moutinho can come in then we should go for it as it would improve on some of the current squad.
We are fast getting to the situation where we will have to start selling good players to get great ones. And on that well done moyes. We will hate to see some go, but the time is fast approaching.
The issue is not that we have too many central midfielders already. The point is can we improve on any of them. If a Moutinho can come in then we should go for it as it would improve on some of the current squad.
We are fast getting to the situation where we will have to start selling good players to get great ones. And on that well done moyes. We will hate to see some go, but the time is fast approaching.
Having upset Fergie, Christiano Ronaldo is available on a 12 month loan deal with the option to buy at the end for £2m. Sounds like a lot of money but I reckon he could be worth it after a couple of years.
I’d also like us to buy Kaka and Frank Ribery but Moyes might need to sanction the sale of Hibbo to fund these deals.
A cheaper (more likely) option is Karim Benzema from Lyon and Lio Messi from Barca as I reckon we could get the two for less than £4m and if we get shot of Segundo Castillo and Jacobsen that would free up the money needed for their wages.
I’d also like us to buy Kaka and Frank Ribery but Moyes might need to sanction the sale of Hibbo to fund these deals.
A cheaper (more likely) option is Karim Benzema from Lyon and Lio Messi from Barca as I reckon we could get the two for less than £4m and if we get shot of Segundo Castillo and Jacobsen that would free up the money needed for their wages.
Thanks for all the laughs guys!
I can’t resist coming in one point: Bentley could be an excellent signing for us. He has skills galore as a player, but has screwed up at Spurs. He needs a new club. The Big 4 wouldn’t touch him, so with us he gets a real team, a new boss, and is still in Europe. If Moyes can’t beat him into shape and resurrect his England career, no-one can. This one could just work.
Problem is Spurs might want Lescott on the other side of the deal....
I can’t resist coming in one point: Bentley could be an excellent signing for us. He has skills galore as a player, but has screwed up at Spurs. He needs a new club. The Big 4 wouldn’t touch him, so with us he gets a real team, a new boss, and is still in Europe. If Moyes can’t beat him into shape and resurrect his England career, no-one can. This one could just work.
Problem is Spurs might want Lescott on the other side of the deal....
Stephen Dafur to resurrect his Liege partnership with Fellani.
narky little twat who should have been sent off in away leg but stayed on to boss the game.
reminds me of a certain Peter Reid.
Bent - no thanks - headless chicken
Downing - no pace
Ledley - worth a punt if money not too mad
whoever we buy need to be in good time to get settled into pre season to try and get a good start and really challenge for 4th.
Although, I would take top six and win the Europa league with a final in Hamburg
narky little twat who should have been sent off in away leg but stayed on to boss the game.
reminds me of a certain Peter Reid.
Bent - no thanks - headless chicken
Downing - no pace
Ledley - worth a punt if money not too mad
whoever we buy need to be in good time to get settled into pre season to try and get a good start and really challenge for 4th.
Although, I would take top six and win the Europa league with a final in Hamburg
What we are missed more than anything, is a likeable nutter this season. Dunc, Gravesen even Carsley... we’ve always had a nutter. Timmy can be narky, but not a nutter... Fellaini, might turn out to be a nutter once he learns a bit more English. I reckon we should but a bid in for Lorik Cana. Steel and certified nut-job.
Er, sorry about the spelling. Submitting this via crappy txt interface. "Missed=Missing" "But = Put".
The three players the Everton team need are:
Right back, Right midfielder and quality striker.
If Moyes signs Downing, Bent or Owen I will be very dispondent. None of those fit the bill the team need. Having said that, I was disappointed when Saha signed yet he’s done good for the team particularly when he’s been fit.
Neville isn’t going to be around too much longer and neither is Saha and they will need replacing in the near future. A striker is a must as is the right midfield. The RB position will hopefully become Jacobsens next season.
On a positive note, the central midfield berths are becoming a good problem area. when Arteta is fit, who do you play?
Arteta, Cahill, Fellaini, Neville, Rodwell or Gosling?
Right back, Right midfielder and quality striker.
If Moyes signs Downing, Bent or Owen I will be very dispondent. None of those fit the bill the team need. Having said that, I was disappointed when Saha signed yet he’s done good for the team particularly when he’s been fit.
Neville isn’t going to be around too much longer and neither is Saha and they will need replacing in the near future. A striker is a must as is the right midfield. The RB position will hopefully become Jacobsens next season.
On a positive note, the central midfield berths are becoming a good problem area. when Arteta is fit, who do you play?
Arteta, Cahill, Fellaini, Neville, Rodwell or Gosling?
i think we could get a loan deal for nani off manchester united for the season i think he would be a great choice and also a decent striker eg. Vela from arsenal or vagner love CSkA moscow however he might be to expensive what do you think ?
Fabian Delph sounds a promising player, he may be worth a punt but only to bolster the squad and learn/gain experiance to build on that promise.
I’d like to see us have a punt for Nani. I am not sure how much he would be or wages etc, and i know people wont want another Man Utd reject. But I think he would be a quality adition, creative, scores goals from all over, runs at defenders. Play him on the right wing.
I’d like to see us have a punt for Nani. I am not sure how much he would be or wages etc, and i know people wont want another Man Utd reject. But I think he would be a quality adition, creative, scores goals from all over, runs at defenders. Play him on the right wing.
whoever thinks we are sound in wide midfield areas is living in cloud cuckoo land. We have no width whatsover. When does Pienaar get to the byeline and cross? At present we have a obvious telegraphed overlap from Baines.I will be delighted if we get Downing. Go for Pennant as well on the right. Or keep Van der Meyde and give him a game!!
Vagner Love: we were linked with him in past so we should sign him. NO.
He aint very good, bent would be cheaper and better. He’s worse than Jo, much worse.
Nani would be a decent shot, but he cant cross, i would prefer a slower Bentley with excellent end product than a quick Nani with no end product.
Saw we were linked with Di Santo from Chelski. He looks a very promising player, but with him signed 2/3 managers ago could be available fore cheap (prob loan with option to buy). 19/20, Argentine, lots of skill, can play out wide but prefers central attacker.
Doyle also linked, but he’s no-more than a Bolton/Blackburn quallity striker surely.
He aint very good, bent would be cheaper and better. He’s worse than Jo, much worse.
Nani would be a decent shot, but he cant cross, i would prefer a slower Bentley with excellent end product than a quick Nani with no end product.
Saw we were linked with Di Santo from Chelski. He looks a very promising player, but with him signed 2/3 managers ago could be available fore cheap (prob loan with option to buy). 19/20, Argentine, lots of skill, can play out wide but prefers central attacker.
Doyle also linked, but he’s no-more than a Bolton/Blackburn quallity striker surely.
I think we cannot argue with the fact we needed some strengthening on the right side.
There has been rumour around saying we are interested in Kyle Naughton he’s only 20 and look’s like we could get him on the cheap, is he any good?
Could he be the answer to our missing wing back?
There has been rumour around saying we are interested in Kyle Naughton he’s only 20 and look’s like we could get him on the cheap, is he any good?
Could he be the answer to our missing wing back?
I'd throw everything we have to get Glen Johnson. Then put Arteta on the right. Yes I know he is better in the middle but this time he?ll have Johnson bombing up the wing instead of Hibbert.
Pienaar and Baines stay where they are, and a middle of Fellaini, Cahill and Neville/Rodwell.
Up front is an issue but the Yak should be back (and hoping back in fitness ? I think I read somewhere that he aimed to play for Nigeria in the next month or so!!) and now is the time for one or more of Vaughan/Anichebe/Baxter to step up.
Can I have my £60,000 a week please?
Pienaar and Baines stay where they are, and a middle of Fellaini, Cahill and Neville/Rodwell.
Up front is an issue but the Yak should be back (and hoping back in fitness ? I think I read somewhere that he aimed to play for Nigeria in the next month or so!!) and now is the time for one or more of Vaughan/Anichebe/Baxter to step up.
Can I have my £60,000 a week please?
I've been saying all season we should try get Ji Park Song from Man Utd, he's a quality under-rated pacy winger that wouldn?t cost a bomb and always gives 100%.
Nick Dommett -> Agree totally about Glen Johnson..
With Boro relegated, we should also have a look at Sanli Tuncay. Easily their best player this season and definitely a talented hardworking midfielder in the Moyes mould and the captain of Turkey.
With Boro relegated, we should also have a look at Sanli Tuncay. Easily their best player this season and definitely a talented hardworking midfielder in the Moyes mould and the captain of Turkey.
Grahame Cook, you are a very naughty boy, look what you have started!
Roy Rennison, Very good point. That thought crossed my mind the other day too.
He is very underrated and stands in the shadow of Rooney and Ronaldo but is nonetheless very talented and pacy.
He is very underrated and stands in the shadow of Rooney and Ronaldo but is nonetheless very talented and pacy.
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