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So today's Mirror has Michael Owen on his way to Goodison for a £50k a week salary package.
If this is true then Moyes lost his head completely! This serial sicknote will totally undermine all the good work 'our man' has done in putting together a group of hard-working, non-posing players who have brought a bit of respectability back to our club.
Owen's thirty goals over four seasons at Newcastle cost the Barcodes no less than £700,000 a piece and proved once and for all that he really is 'the finished article'.
Please, Mr Moyes, you can do far better that this ? SURELY!
Brian Noble, Posted 02/06/2009 at 07:54:01
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2 Posted 02/06/2009 at 14:04:29
3 Posted 02/06/2009 at 14:12:48
4 Posted 02/06/2009 at 14:21:18
5 Posted 02/06/2009 at 14:24:34
He lives in Cheshire, we’re his boyhood club, we have no money for transfers (but can afford 50k a week apparently) and had documented striker problems this season.
It ignores that he’s way past his best, can’t play in our preferred formation and isn’t a Moyes-type player (in the sense that his legs have gone and has nothing to his game beyond goals and isn’t particularly noted for his work ethic or team cohesion) Plus the wage demands.
6 Posted 02/06/2009 at 14:24:31
Owen, Jonny Wilkinson and Freddie Flintoff. It seems each of our major ball sports has a potentially world-beating player warming the treatment table more than playing.
Shame.
7 Posted 02/06/2009 at 14:33:40
We should have bought Ginola BEFORE he went to Spurs and that was a huge mistake, please do not give Owen any lifelines as he is not worth a place at EFC and would be a kick in the teeth to our youngsters.
I think we need to get rid of quite a few players who are currently on the payroll and bring in some fresh young players to really push for places in the first team squad. Martins would be a much better buy from Newcastle than Owen as he does work hard and would have more impact even though I think we need better players than he is.
The players I would hope we would not sign include Barton, Owen, Nolan and Smith who are either past it or troublesome characters. We need some top players to boost our present squad and take the places of the likes of Osman, Hibbert and Saha who are not good enough or fit enough to play as automatic first choices.
8 Posted 02/06/2009 at 14:42:49
When he was younger, his ability (because of his speed) to get in front of defenders, meant goals were almost guaranteed... A low ball in the box, Owen gets ahead of some big slow puddin? of a centre-half and it was WHIZZ-BANG-GOAL.
Last time time I saw him, HE looked like... well, a big slow puddin? actually.
So... um... not for me.
9 Posted 02/06/2009 at 14:46:54
If only we had the services of Owen of then... impossible I know, but I think that would be the difference between also rans and actual silverware.
If he does turn up It would be interesting to say the least.
10 Posted 02/06/2009 at 14:58:04
11 Posted 02/06/2009 at 15:15:41
A lot of people say that Moyes never takes a risk, Owen could be a risk worth taking with money spent else where.
12 Posted 02/06/2009 at 15:16:41
I don’t care either way, if he comes, good we have an experienced forward who will chip in a few goals a season and is better on his worst days than Anichebe on a normal day. If he doesn’t no loss.
Brian a couple of tips for lowering the blood pressure.
Don’t buy shit papers like the Mirror
Don’t read shit papers like the Mirror
Don’t open any threads which start talking about possible transfer targets.......from shit papers like the Mirror
13 Posted 02/06/2009 at 15:32:42
14 Posted 02/06/2009 at 15:30:50
Moyes can do no wrong so just leave it to him!.
15 Posted 02/06/2009 at 15:09:03
I just hope Moyesy gets some serious backing this summer because were going to need it, Man City are already in the market trying to buy Barry so they're not hanging around and are building to push for top 6, possibly top 4 next year. It's a big summer for Everton FC, I don't see why the Board can't back him this summer after what he?s achieved. I saw an article saying we received a total of £50m in TV money and parachute payments alone this season, and then there?s the £30m + kitbag deal on top of that, new kit deal, money from final league standing and the cup run, so surely some of that will be given to Moyesy this summer?!!
Hopefully he gets the backing to make at least 3, possibly 4 quality signings that will make a difference to are side, I'd like to see him get Moutinho in for starters, M?Bia for holding midfield role, get Owen in too. Maybe a pacey out-and- out right winger and a few squad players but it all depends on how much the board are willing to back Moyes this summer?!!
16 Posted 02/06/2009 at 15:44:27
People were also sceptical about Neville and Saha, even the Yak was deemed to be lazy... and before that Kilbane turned out to be a decent buy as well.
17 Posted 02/06/2009 at 16:10:38
18 Posted 02/06/2009 at 16:26:59
19 Posted 02/06/2009 at 16:34:02
No thanks, Not even in the slightest.
20 Posted 02/06/2009 at 16:31:36
It?s in the Mirror so it's slightly more likely that Lord Lucan, Maggie Thatcher and Sean Connery are going to be our ?surprise? signings this summer and that Howard Kendall is coming back for one more shot....
If serious then no, no, no. He can?t play the 'one up top' role at all. I would rather put the wages to getting someone younger and brighter (as I have mentioned earlier in another thread, plowing all the money we have into getting Glen Johnson).
21 Posted 02/06/2009 at 16:33:34
22 Posted 02/06/2009 at 16:13:39
23 Posted 02/06/2009 at 16:43:30
24 Posted 02/06/2009 at 16:57:17
25 Posted 02/06/2009 at 17:03:53
The problem for me is not his injuries, but where he fits into the team. Every year of (relative) success we have had under Moyes has been with a 4-4-1-1 formation, namely with Cahill in the hole and someone either big and powerful (Yakubu, Marcus Bent) or pacey and hard working (AJ). Owen fits neither of these categories. He is a player who relies heavily on service and an unselfish player alongside him to lead the line - witness how much better he has been in an England shirt alongside Heskey than he has alongside Rooney.
I personally still think he’s a decent striker. His injury record is bad, but you’re more likely to get more games out of him than you are out of Saha, who seems to suffer more niggles and tweaks that prevent him ever being fully match fit. I honestly reckon that at the right club, with the right players around him and the right tactics, Owen could still average a goal in every 2 games. But at Everton? Not unless we ditch the blueprint of the past few years and move Cahill deeper permanently (or drop him - heaven forbid).
If he came on a pay as you play deal I think it would be a great signing: he’s bound to grab us a few goals off the bench when we’re chasing games. But at 50K a week I’d rather use that money to entice a player in his prime who is currently a world class talent, not a player who would be splinter arse for most of the season.
26 Posted 02/06/2009 at 17:14:23
27 Posted 02/06/2009 at 18:18:02
Money is obviously a factor, but even if he was genuinely a ?free? (which he wouldn?t be), and he said what Louis Saha is supposed to have said ? don?t pay me until I play ? would Moyes still want him?
My guess is ? I don?t think so. In the end, because he is in the strongest position he has been as our manager even without the cup in the cabinet, this is all that counts. We?ll have to see.
28 Posted 02/06/2009 at 18:25:06
Yes,we deffo require a right-back but Philo can do the job-and Jags can play anywhere.
Bring it on ,I say!
29 Posted 02/06/2009 at 18:58:17
30 Posted 02/06/2009 at 19:10:04
Rodwell,Gosling and Baxter may make it in time but we aren’t going to challenge the Sky4 with the likes of Hibbert,Osman and Saha being regular picks,are we?
31 Posted 02/06/2009 at 19:16:29
But I agree - we need two or three class players, plus three or two very good players to give us a chance next season.
Chris - the Barry transfer is interesting isn’t it. It must have been lined up a few weeks ago. Like you, I wonder what this might tell us about what’s going to happen next.
32 Posted 02/06/2009 at 20:01:47
Owen has bags of European and International experience which we are in need of for the coming season.
Also, who better for the younger lads to learn from ? He is a model pro and a generally nice bloke who would fit well in to the squad - hardworker, no ego.
And he is bound to grab the odd goal when he plays - sure he is injury prone and wont play more than a bit part, but I think it would be a good short term signing with a sell on fee in a year or two.
33 Posted 02/06/2009 at 19:48:08
34 Posted 02/06/2009 at 19:19:45
I would like us to have a shot at acquiring Darren Bent. I am a Darren fan. He has not come off at Spurs but so often, few do. We have Yakubu but he is really our only out and out striker.
Cahill and Fellaini can be relied on for around 5 - 8 goals in the season but what if the Yak was injured again. Vaughany is not ready yet and, for me, we want to capitalise on whatever value Anichebe has
Hibbert & Osman I would sell. We would not get so much for them but neither will get any better and plainly,they fall short of being good enough. Whatever we get for the two of them would make a nice contribution to the fee for say, Mouthino or M?Bia. We must be positive, too many other teams are reaching for where we are
35 Posted 02/06/2009 at 19:49:14
36 Posted 02/06/2009 at 20:48:50
37 Posted 02/06/2009 at 21:01:51
38 Posted 02/06/2009 at 21:00:54
39 Posted 02/06/2009 at 21:07:42
40 Posted 02/06/2009 at 21:07:26
41 Posted 02/06/2009 at 22:15:36
FFS people this smacks of seasons gone by for Everton making desperate moves for hasbeens and not the sort of move DM should or would make - no thanks to the glass ankled Welsh Midget, redtop lazy journalism and even lazier FM daydreaming.
42 Posted 02/06/2009 at 22:41:44
Also note that prodigal means "wasteful of one’s means".
43 Posted 02/06/2009 at 22:42:32
44 Posted 02/06/2009 at 23:22:56
45 Posted 02/06/2009 at 23:49:50
TOO Old
TOO selfish
POOR workrate
TOO expensive (whatever measure you apply).
Let?s build on the young bucks without taking on another has been.
Shearer is well qualified to judge a quality goalscorer and left himout of his most important games.
Give me Martins over Owen anytime.
46 Posted 02/06/2009 at 23:57:47
King Louis has proved he wants more than cash through his deal and by and large has done well when fit.
Let’ss ee if Owen wants money or success on a football pitch. I would suggest it should be the latter as surely he wants to make the World Cup squad.
47 Posted 03/06/2009 at 00:40:26
They were hardly ’I told you so’ mistakes were they? And it goes to show you there are times you just can’t judge a players ability before buying them.
If Moyes signs Owen it’ll be the first time he’s ever committed any real money on an aging player struggling with injuries. On the other side of the coin, Owen does have the ability...
It’ll either be a great move or one more lesson learned by David Moyes
48 Posted 03/06/2009 at 02:07:05
49 Posted 03/06/2009 at 05:51:39
Jo is awful though.
50 Posted 03/06/2009 at 06:58:25
If we’re going to have someone on the way down in their career I would rather have Phil neville’s mate - David Beckham.
51 Posted 03/06/2009 at 07:00:00
I’d rather give one of the kids a shot over Owen who don’t forget chose the skunks for the money, one minded greedy little bastard looking for another paycheck before he gives it up to run his horses or gambling or other Welsh Lord of the Manor pish.
52 Posted 03/06/2009 at 07:49:23
53 Posted 03/06/2009 at 08:51:34
However, I accept that there is a strong argument FOR the signing. We probably have a transfer kitty of £15-20m. Owen is available on a free which would mean with wages of £40k per week a 2-year deal would cost us in the region of £4m. Now that buys us a striker who has European experience and could be on the plane to the next world cup. On the other hand we could go for a striker from the lower leagues, no experience and a transfer fee alone of probably more than the £4m it will cost in total for Owen.
From that point of view I can see the signing making sense. It increases the squad numbers, is still a potentially top quality player, and it doesn't eat into a transfer kitty that is needed for other areas of the side ( RIGHT HAND SIDE !!! ).
I don't think it would be a ridiculous signing....
54 Posted 03/06/2009 at 09:27:49
None of which we need.
As far as strikers go...I’m not sure we need one.
Midfield priority for me...but if we were to go for a striker...I like the look of Rodallega.
55 Posted 03/06/2009 at 10:10:20
56 Posted 03/06/2009 at 11:28:27
57 Posted 03/06/2009 at 12:06:40
58 Posted 03/06/2009 at 12:14:41
Would love to see what Moyesie would say about him in an autobiogrpahy in a few years. Just read Carragher?s one (yes, I know....) and the way he talks about Diouf, Diao, Cheyrou and Josemi is hilarious.
59 Posted 03/06/2009 at 06:40:58
Note, however, the absence of Castillo and Jacobsen. Now, not that many (if any) shirts will sell with the names of these players on the back but this is perhaps indicative of their chances of staying for next season ? clearly a contract has not been agreed at this stage for these two. Not many will lose sleep over this of course (other than the players themselves) but only if there are replacements forthcoming in the Summer.
Castillo is unlikely due to the fee required by Red Star but Jacobsen fits the mould of a fee-free international player to start the season instead of Hibbert ? who was woefully outed at Wembley and targeted by Hiddink as our weakest link.
It looks like Owen is nailed on also ? sadly we are in no position to buy another proven goalscorer at this level who is fit and Owen would be a typical Moyes signing with something to prove ? a contract similar to Saha?s would be more prudent though perhaps than anything medium/long term. Owen has lost several yards of pace and will need to improve as an all-rounder to get into the current Everton team?.question is in the run-up to the World Cup does he have the desire?? This could be a gamble that could pay-off and if the contract is structured in a way that favours the Blues it could mean minimum risk.
Ledley and Moutinho would then cap it all off ? with Anichebe going to Cardiff for a year. You never know we could also see Jo back on loan for a year which would give us a decent squad player to tide us over until the Yak is firing once again?.Other than that I cannot see many other comings or goings unless Bill miraculously finds his Billionaire?Can you?
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