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Man City's move for Lescott
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This keeps resurfecing in the media and I was wondering what price would Evertonians be happy with for Everton selling Lescott?
My idea would be £20m with Moyes wisely getting in a replacement for around £5m. Unless of course we get a proper investor, ahem, in which case we won't need to sell our best players.
The Man City thing is starting to worry me now, it's going to be difficult competing with them next season, I just hope Mark Hughes is still in charge.
Tommy Coleman, Posted 04/06/2009 at 08:56:54
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It’s a simple game really isn’t it?
It re-surfaces regularly, too regularly and its no secret City’s defence is total shite. It’s no secret that they are loaded and its no secret we are skint.
It’s a crying shame if it happens. It would take £20m upwards to get a 26yr old ENGLAND INTERNATIONAL centre half.
I know the board will not sanction the move even for £50m unless Moyes sanctions it but maybe he might? if he had that type of money coupled with whatever he already has as his budget. He could bring in Moutinho, Ledley and M’bia whilst still having Yobo to replace and Rodwell to cover.
I hope it doesnt happen and I don’t think it will. Money isn’t everything and I just hope if a bid comes in, Lescott has enough about him to say "kiss my arse, money ain’t everything".
Just like Kaka did, oh and Ronaldinho, oh Messi as well. City will get good players but they will never get true world class players in that ilk because at the end of the day, they are still just Man City.
Imagine your CV at the end of your career. AC Milan, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man City. hahaha
Lescott is one of the best centre backs in the Premier League and is improving. Him and Jags together are rocks.
Nothing less than £35 million!
You are all nuts! If he was sold we would not have any extra dosh over and above the £15 milllion to spend.
I believe with many of our core players re-signing, Lescott can be comfortable with the team Moyes is building at Everton and want to stay. Being offered six figures a week, however, would turn anyone’s head.
Its sends the truth. That we have a benefactor who can’t provide money for the most promising manager in the league -and one we’ll probably end up loosing if it continues.
This leads me to wonder what the fuck is going on when Pompey and Sunderland are getting taken over before the 5th best team in the league, small debt in relation to 70% of the other clubs in the league, a squad that is worth a fortune in trasnfer value and is young and secured on long deals, a huge fanatical fan base that would sell out a stadium if it wasn?t for so many obstructed views, and the best young manager in the UK.
Yes, we will need a new ground but thats the only major spend. The club would not be too expensive to the right buyer and you could buy the club, build a ground for us and clear our £38m debt and it still would not amount to the debt some of the teams have in the the Premier League, according the recent times article.
WHY ARE WE NOT SEEN AS INVESTABLE and a tiny, tiny little club like Pompey, with 21,000 fans, small income, shed of a tiny ground and massive debt seen as more attractive than us??? It's a joke!!! They need a new ground as well! What's goin on??
If we are forced to sell Lescott, Moyes will walk. If he is not backed like he deserves to be, he will walk in time and we will be up shit creek without a paddle. It's down to him, and only him, that we are 5th best team in the league.
GET IT SORTED KENWRIGHT!!!
Aaaah, that?s better.
I think the guy is brilliant but something is wrong when a team like Pompey and Sunderland are getting backers and we can't.
Is he asking too much?
I just wish he would come out and say what the score is?
Anyway, regards Lescott, every player has a price. Mind you the price would have to very high. Also, at the moment we only have 2 centre-backs (not including Jags, as he will be out for a good few months of next season), so shouldn?t we be finding some replacement?
(And, by the way, I don’t see Bill as being the fundamental source of all evil ... just the latest in a string of enthusiastic but hopeless leaders who have kept the club in the "nearly" category for too many of its years.)
Bill likes big, showy "me me me" things; other clubs get investment; we don’t.
See the connection?
And, of course, there’s the little matter of the exclusivity deal for Fiasco Kirkby.
Even accounting for the fact that City have bags of money and are there to be taken advantage of, and allowing that perhaps their chief scouts didn't (despite what the media and everyone else with two eyes saw) see how poor Lescott was at the start of the season, they still wouldn't bid more than about £12 million for him.
I?d bite their hand off at anything in double figures, to be honest.
Everton are not a good investment with a new stadium in the offing.
We are a club of similar staure that Leeds where then and Lescott is not far away from Ferdinands ability when he was 26. So taking into account that its a few years on, but that Joleon aint quite as good Ferdinand, i’d ask for 30million.
He’s English, 26, been one of the best a most consistant performers for 3 consecutive seasons (minus a 5-8 game blip early this season).
If we get offered 30million, they take it.
We proved when we lost Arteta, Yak, and Jags that we can adapt with loss of individual players.
30million would give ability for 20mil on extra transfers, and budget for 10mil extra wages, that is the sort of money that will get us into the Champions League.
I would trust Moyes to get an equally good defender for 5/6mil - maybe even get Kompany off City as part of te Deal.
No player is unsellable, simple as that. I would like us to keep him, but with no investor imminent, then that sort of money would be vital for our continued development.
Should someone offer £15 mill, I believe we should sell. £10 mill is a bit short for my liking.
Although I like Lescott, I do think he can be upgraded with a player who has a bit finer touch than him and a little younger.
Lescott is one of our best players and I would rather maintain our stability and growth by adding and not subtracting from our team...
however he is English, naturally left-footed, young, has 2 dodgy knees and the richest club in the world have no moral compass!
Lescott is as important to our defence as Robinho is to their attack. £10-15 Million? Why sell him short? Including Jagielka he is in the top 5 best English defenders in the country.
Why should we blink?
If they really want him then out of the reported £40 Billion they have amassed - 0.08% (£20M) of their fortune is not asking much!
As for City... they are a total joke and so much so my good friend who supports them doesn't even bother anymore. I for one am happy we don't have that kind of investment! City will not finish any higher than they did this season. Mark my words...
If they say no, end of conversation.
If they are going to try and bully teams, then we should stand up for ourselves, make a statement to them and to everyone else.
Are we any better?
We need to stay loyal to our own. Out of £15M we would need to re-invest at least £10M on his successor (and then there are no guarantees).
Part of the Rooney money was pissed away on Krøldrup and Van der Meyde (sound investments).
Lescott and Jagielka are the new Mountfield and Ratcliffe. Why upset the rhythm of our team?
We need to bring in Lucas Neil, sell Hibbert and Anichebe for a combined £6M and invest heavily in MIDFIELD!
However if Lescott was to say he isn’t interested in a move, then that should be the end of the matter.
He?s young enough to remain a key player for the next six or seven years.
He scores goals.
He?s amazingly injury-free.
He?s an England international.
He clearly has become part of the Evertonian ethos the current team so admirably demonstrate.
...and most of you would be happy to sell him? Moyes and Kenwright out too eh? What do you people want?
He could be replaced very easily.
That said; every player has his price and I think if we got £30million for him I would be accepting and would trust that we have the right team at the helm to find an equivalent relacement within that budget and still make a profit
Kompany
That would do us nicely
Peter rogers "do not sell at any price"????
"its time to buy and invest"???? buy and invest with what exactly.
Lescott is a good player, no doubt about it. However he is not the best defender in the world, and he could be replaced. So whats with this dont sell at any price. Everyone has a price, simple as that.
People on here on saying we want to sell or lose him, it was a discussion in the hypotheical relm of what is money bags city do bid for him, what would be satisfactory. Its not like were damanding his sale, but if City come calling, it could be a method of gaining some much required capital. Yes if the offer 12mil, then no they can fuck off but heck if we get £25mil for him, we coud sign a replacement - Mancienne, Wheater etc and still have 15+mil in the bank. If we could also get a couple of City rejects like Petrov (a fantasitic winger), Johnson/Fernandes (quality central midfielders), Jo etc then we would be in a better position to compete with Citys millions than with Lescott and a couple of loans and maybe 1 extra player.
Arsenal will be stronger next season, but Villa will be weaker which will help us. So we desparately need to invest money in our squad. If that means losing 1 player to help it then so be it. But we got £13mil for AJ last season, so Lescott would have to be significantly more.
If we did sell how that reflect Everton to the current players and players we are looking to bring in. Would they view us a selling club which we have not been since we sold Rooney.
A replacement would probably not be cheap and how would they settle in to the team spirit etc,
Moutinho has not been mentioned, although same source says that Moyes is bringing in two other signings, one from lower leagues, Ledley. The other from the Bundesliga???
£38 mill debt?
I know we haven?t had an AGM in some time..but the reports are that it?s closer to £90 mill that we are in hock for.
We’d be left with just Yobo(whos had a few knocks this past season) and Rodwell who hasn’t played at centre half for the first team as best that I recall. If we sign a young, pacy, quality right back the backline will be sorted. Besides If we sold Lescott who would we replace him with? I can’t think of many better centrebacks aound.
Lescott to Many City. We don’t need to sell him unless he really wants to go, so bollocks to it, £25M plus Jo and don’t budge.
Is Lescott worth it? Market value, probably not, but any asset is worth what the buyer is prepared to pay for it.
If they don’t pay it, then we get to keep a top centre half. If they do, then we’ve bolstered our strike force and got enough for 2 more top players.
It looked like Richards could be on his way out of City a few months ago after lack of form and due to City's impending multi-million pound onslaught on the transfer market for every Tom, Dick and Harry.
However, these hopes were dashed about a month ago as Mark Hughes came out and said he didn't want to sell Richards. Fair enough. A quality young player going through the usual second season syndrome but gradually getting back on track.
Now, today. City want to offer us the services of Richards. Brilliant. What's the catch? The catch is City want to exchange Richards for Lescott. Now I know Richards is good and I would love to have him at Goodison but I really don't want to sacrifice Lescott either.
If the story is true, then it's a really tough decision to make, especially if City throw us £5m-£10m.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8087796.stm
We will not have Jags until November at least. We will not have Yobo for the whole of January and possibly some of February.
No amount of money would make me want to sell.


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