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Could it be our turn?

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Just been trawling through the usual pages to see what's going on with the transfer gossip and came across this bit of 'gossip' from the BBC Sport site:

BREAKING GOSSIP

2010: Sheikh Ahmed bin Saqr al-Qassimi, member of a ruling family in the United Arab Emirates, has bought a majority stake in an unnamed Premier League club. Sheikh Ahmed, a member of the ruling family Ras al-Khaimah, will be honorary chairman of the club.

Ras al-Khaimah is one of seven members in the UAE federation which also includes key oil producer Abu Dhabi and regional trade and tourism hub Dubai. (WAM news agency)

Then I checked the source of the information WAM News Agency:

Ahmed acquires 60% of a leading English football club

Jun 21, 2009 - 08:30 -

WAM Ras Al Khaimah, 21st June 2009 (WAM) -- Sheikh Ahmed bin Saqr Al Qasimi, Chairman of the Ras Al Khaimah Department of Customs and Seaports, has acquired 60 per cent of a leading English club of premier league Sheikh Ahmed will be the honorary chairman of the club.

More details about the deal will be announced at a press conference to be held within the few coming days. The part of this 'gossip' I am most intrigued by is that the Sheikh will be made an Honorary Chairman... so could this be Bill's way of keeping hold of his train set and getting the pot of gold he's been waiting for?

So, in blind optimism more than anything, I am hoping it is us and not the Darkside that are being bailed out yet again! By process of elimination, Man Utd nor Chelsea are likely to have a new backer. Arsenal have Usmanov and Hill-Wood plus others on their board. Villa have a wealthy backer in Randy Lerner, Fulham are not exactly short-changed with Al-Fayed... and then there is Spurs whom are owned by Daniel Levy whom is by rights flush with spondoolies! West Ham have just been taken over. So by that rationale that just leaves the mighty EFC and those lovable inbreeds who inhabit Anfield!!!!

COYB!
Brendan Fox, London     Posted 21/06/2009 at 18:48:42

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Martin Cutler
1   Posted 22/06/2009 at 04:33:43

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Who knows for sure but I did think exactly the same as you, Brendan... let?s hope that this is true (in the sense it means investment... as to the actual person involved, money aside, who knows?).

I would love to see DM do his stuff with the "lack of money" removed from the equation and I?d love to see the likes of Lescott and Rodwell too, and others, locked in for the long-term.

I truly, truly believe that next season could be one kick-ass season with just one or two "decent" players added and the injured players returning. COYB!
Rupert Sullivan
2   Posted 22/06/2009 at 05:52:31

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I actually hope that it isn?t EFC. Sure, the club could do with investment from somewhere, but that sort of investment is the slippery slope to paying stupid wages for underachievers ? a la the Chelsea or Newcastle model.

Do you really want Michael Owen earning £110k a week at EFC? ? or anyone for that matter? Money is destroying the game, the sooner the bodies concerned do something about it the better ? otherwise it will continue to become a competition to see who can spend the most.

Wasn?t there an article recently which indicated that most Premier League clubs are heavily in debt ? is that what we want for EFC and the sport in general?
Dave Wilson
3   Posted 22/06/2009 at 06:23:19

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Rupert

You?re right of course, many thousand of Evertonians puffed out their chest?s when we got to Wembley last season and boasted to the rest of football "We're a proper club, we haven't sold out". I was amongst them.

However...
Robert Jones
4   Posted 22/06/2009 at 07:51:46

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Rupert ? any player? Well I wouldn?t say no to Messi on £110k p/w....

All the pieces fit tbh, I?m convinced it?s us.
Gavin Ramejkis
5   Posted 22/06/2009 at 07:57:01

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Rupert the trouble with paying over the odds statement a la Chelski or the Skunks was more down to interference from Abramovich wanting his childhood football hero and the skunks having shite clueless managers. A decent manager without interference could make a lot more money go a lot longer.

Even with money success isn?t guaranteed overnight as having a raft of galaticos doesn?t mean they will play as a team instantly, they would need to be bedded in; some would work, some wouldn?t.

As long as new "investors" don?t want the EPL title in the first season or want full control or to install their own manager then this is not as disastrous as claimed. The idea of people with dead dinosaurs in their back gardens is a whole world away from some dodgy Waldorf and Stadler from the land of sub-prime loans looking to transfer their own toxic debt as the guys in question are brewstered and debt free.

Michael Lynch
6   Posted 22/06/2009 at 08:15:34

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Let's hope and pray it is us. Our turn has to come sooner or later. We are the 5th best team in the Prem with arguably the 3rd best manager (after SAF and Wenger). Investors must see us as a more attractive aquisition than Pompey or any of the Prem clubs who are after investment.
Danny O'Brien
7   Posted 22/06/2009 at 08:20:05

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Well lads it's not Portsmouth http://www.thenational.ae/article/20090622/NATIONAL/706219799/1138

I live in Dubai and the noises her are that it may be Blackburn. I think it should be noted though that Ras Al Khamaih is not as well off as Abu Dhabi so I wouldn't expect Messi and co to be signing.
Rupert Sullivan
8   Posted 22/06/2009 at 08:52:07

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Gavin - I think the problem is that, once someone like that comes in, everyone thinks you are a money train and things happen ? like mediocre players suddenly wanting top dollar salaries... no matter how good the manager, I think this route is a slippery slope.
John Roberts
9   Posted 22/06/2009 at 09:07:32

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Dave Wilson,

Whilst I am also happy we haven?t joined many other clubs by taking on some sort of multi-national ownership, it?s very easy to say we haven?t "sold out" when there?s actually been no offer from somebody to "buy in"!!!
Mike Green
10   Posted 22/06/2009 at 10:02:27

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If it was us - why only 60%?

Why not the lot?
Alan Kirwin
11   Posted 22/06/2009 at 09:55:46

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Saw this last night too. Rumours circulating that, if true, it?s either Everton, Fulham or West Ham. It is not Portsmouth or Newcastle (oddly mentioned on BBC Sport).

Hearts are aflutter, but we know how these stories usually end. No doubt if it isn?t EFC, or even if it isn?t true, it will inspire yet another zzzzz tirade at Bill Kenwright because it?s all his fault.

Rupert Sullivan - exactly!

Sheikh?in all over.
John Keating
12   Posted 22/06/2009 at 10:06:25

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Regardless of whatever club may be in line for investment, if anyone from Ras Al Khaimah is involved don?t expect too much. Ras Al Khaimah is a small Emirate and has little if any natural resources and in no way can be mentioned in the same breath as Dubai or Abu Dhabi.
Admittedly anything is better than nothing but we wait and see.
Vijay Nair
13   Posted 22/06/2009 at 10:29:10

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Rupert, I think you need to get with the times. Such are the times that success cannot be obtained without substantial investment. Can you actually name any club (in any league) that has been consistently successful without proper financial backing? I think not!

No, we cannot guarantee that money will bring success and silverware to this club, but it at least gives us the funds to get the personnel in and puts us in with a chance to compete with the Sky 4.

I have supported this club for over 24 years and I am sick and tired of us being the ?best of the rest?. I seriously hope we get the financial backing we need to stick it the so-called ?big boys?!

Marc Williams
14   Posted 22/06/2009 at 10:28:10

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Let?s hope it?s Blackburn, otherwise we?ll be a laughing stock. I mean what kind of owner / chairman could sell their club to the world's only poor Arabs, who DON?T have any oil billions!!!
Ciarán McGlone
15   Posted 22/06/2009 at 10:50:32

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Watch this space.....
Phil Martin
16   Posted 22/06/2009 at 10:58:37

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It probably won't be us ? it never is! For those who use Man City or Chelsea as examples, do you really think their fans care?

I agree we shouldn't go down that route but what about Randy Lerner at Villa. He has been fantastic ? he allows O?Neill full control and backs him whenever he needs. That is what we miss.

As for the rumourerd Fulham, West Ham, Blackburn or us: well, West Ham have just been bought again by more Icleanders (I believe)? Why anyone would want to buy Fulham ahead of us (unless you use the ?Have to be in London? line), I don't know. And I dont' believe Blackburn have the potential to grow like us, plus they aren?t in a city and don't have the same history as us. It?s all speculation anyway, It will probably be Burnley or some shit like that.

As for us becoming a joke because these Arabs aren't worth $600bn... who gives a fuck? If they buy us a new stadium and give Moyes £40M to spend, that's all we need.

Sam Higgins
17   Posted 22/06/2009 at 11:20:12

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It's Portsmouth.
Nick Veitch
18   Posted 22/06/2009 at 11:31:45

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I have to disagree with you,Marc. I don?t believe we would want the Chelsea/Man City billions but an owner that has more money than Blue Bill. Also, if they were to be an ?honorary? chairman, this could potentially work really well with Kenwright. I think we want to maintain our identity, despite significant investment.

In my opinion, £20-30 mill to spend each transfer period would be the ideal situation for us. This isn?t a huge amount in today?s market, but would see 1-2 quality players per season added.

Adam Carey
19   Posted 22/06/2009 at 11:31:27

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It?s the 60% thing that has me thinking... Taking into consideration the clubs mentioned above, I can?t see Al Fayed at Fulham being a minority shareholder to anyone. West Ham seem to be a dead-weight around the necks of whoever owns them, and Blackburn are small enough to be bought outright.

However, the 24/7 search which has been seemingly running forever, and Bill Kenwright?s un-official stance that he?ll only sell for the right deal (ie, he stays near the top of the tree), make this 60% buy out look ideal for him. Bill can still wax lyrical about his beloved blues and be the face of the club while the Sheikh can pull the strings and open his wallet from the background?

Adam Carey
20   Posted 22/06/2009 at 11:43:27

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Further to my earlier post, and West Ham being dead-weights... You would think the WH owners would want out fully? Finally, if it is the red team over the park, then it will confirm that dark powers run the world!!!
Christopher Marston
21   Posted 22/06/2009 at 12:25:06

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It will not be Everton, it never is...
Graham Smallwood
22   Posted 22/06/2009 at 13:12:05

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Personally hope it is Everton this time, we need the money. As for Chelsea being overpriced underachievers? Haven't they won every domestic honour in the last 5 years? Remember when Tim Cahill said we only get around £20-30million a year to spend on players, well apart from Wiggy last year, I don't think we got anywhere near that when you consider the £9-10m we got for for AJ (wish he?d stopped).

with £30-40m on players every summer, Moyes could work wonders and the Shite and Arse would have to look over their shoulders at us not fucking Citeh or Spurs.
COYBs ... saying all that, I bet it's a London club.
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Robert Jones
23   Posted 22/06/2009 at 13:29:00

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Marc Williams ? their ?big brother?, Abu Dhabi, usually back them financially in business ventures anyway.
Mike Green
24   Posted 22/06/2009 at 14:33:10

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My old man always said money isn?t everything, but it helps, which I think sums up our position really.

And Graham ? if today was my first exposure to the word "Aryan", I?d just apologise before getting into an argument on Anti-Semitism.
Marc Williams
25   Posted 22/06/2009 at 14:51:50

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Nick Veitch ? The combination of piss taking Man City fans in the last few weeks & the never ending 24/7 hope have pushed me over the edge. I just can?t be rational about money in football anymore!

Robert Jones ? PHEW! For a while there I feared Bill had sold us for two camels, a packet of dates & a three-week timeshare in Dubai!!!
Roger Trenwith
26   Posted 22/06/2009 at 15:49:33

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Anyone got any idea exactly how much 60% of Everton is?

Also if it is us, I wonder if it?s conditional on us being given the go-ahead for the tin shed in Kirkby?

Graham Smallwood
27   Posted 22/06/2009 at 18:07:20

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If my comment caused any offence to anyone, I apologise. It was meant as a joke and nothing more.
Timothy Laynge
28   Posted 22/06/2009 at 17:53:59

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I did post quite a while back we were better off marketing ourselves in Qatar or the very oil-rich Abu Dhabi for that matter. Seem safer bets long-term than the crisis-prone artificially enriched oilless DIC investors potential to the darkside.
Russell Buckley
29   Posted 23/06/2009 at 04:40:07

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I wouldn?t go getting your hopes up. If we get lucky and it is us I can only see positive. If Bill is still chairman that means we have a man in charge who understands and loves the club.

If these guys aren?t the richest arabs around who cares. We don?t need to compete financially with Chelsea, Man City or the debt ridden like of Man Utd. An investor who can back Moyes to the tune of a 2 or 3 top players per year is all thats needs, and I don?t mean the likes of Messi.
Derek Thomas
30   Posted 23/06/2009 at 05:41:45

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I hope it is us, it could be as this would seem to fit in with Bill’s exact words of ’ investment’ too many people have taken the 24/7 statement as meaning take over and or buy out.

This would leave him all his boxes pretty much ticked. He and the potential new 60%Chairman can both call each other Mr Chairman, face saved all around, train-set still in his front room, any glory to be milked then up he can step as Johnny on the spot and spout his shite to the press and still be qualified to shed a manly tear when he hears his (40%) tune Z Cars.

Job done, best of both worlds cake and eat it all round, all this and a semi ( well 60%) decent kitty for Moyes to play with with the added bonus that He, Moyes, can say to sellers trying to up the price, we are not city we have only been bought by the poorest entry level Arabs there are, so get real!
Sam Higgins
31   Posted 23/06/2009 at 06:00:17

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Lads, I seriously think you should calm down and stop getting carried away!!

I?ve been on the net most of the day due to a spot of flu and I've been doing some surfing that would put Kelly Slater to shame. The more I?ve found the more this whole thing points at (and I hate to say it) the Dark Side. I'm telling yer it makes sense ? they had no money a few weeks back ? now Johnson is coming in with more to follow. The yank is selling, and it looks as if he?s found his escape route. I really think its the Red Shite (I now concede its not Portsmouth ? i got confused with the other Arab).
Robert Lam
32   Posted 23/06/2009 at 06:21:30

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KW. Come out and deny this like you always do, otherwise I’m beginning to believe it is us too.
Ciarán McGlone
33   Posted 23/06/2009 at 08:53:12

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BK doesn’t own 60% of the club. A blindingly obvious fact that many of you seem to have overlooked.

If he’s sold his own share that would amount to just 33%...and would hardly mean he would have to stay at the club in any capacity (personally I want him to go completely)...if he’s mucked in with Earl then that would be about 60%...but I doubt it very much.
Alan Clarke
34   Posted 23/06/2009 at 10:37:08

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I love the fact that after being served up so much shit for so many years so many of us still keep hold of our blind optimism. There is absolutely no way this is us. Kenwright does not want to sell or lose any control of Everton especially after all the press he got during the cup run and resulting Cup final appearance. He loves being the man at the helm. The other thing Kenwright is incapable of is keeping a secret and this 60% investment has been kept far too quiet for Billy boy to be involved with.

On the plus side I very much doubt it’s the RS especially after Hicks has sold his NHL outfit. That’s most probably where the Johnson money has come from.
Adam Bennett
35   Posted 23/06/2009 at 13:20:01

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After a little bit of searching - Kenwright owns 25%, Woods 19%, Earle 23%, totalling 67%.

So, if the Sheik completely buys out Woods and Earle, and Kenwright keeps 7% for himself, that means a 60% steak is possible.
Tony Ateman
36   Posted 23/06/2009 at 13:56:55

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Kenwright owns 25%, unnamed small shareholders 15%. All other larger shareholders have sold a total of 60% to Sheik Rattlandroll....

Well, probably not!
Darren Dempsey
37   Posted 23/06/2009 at 23:35:19

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Does anbody have any idea how much these arabs are worth? I'm not building my hopes up just yet!

Sorry, who am I kidding? Of course I'm building my hopes up!!!

Tony Ateman
38   Posted 24/06/2009 at 08:17:26

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Sorry everybody!

http://www.thenational.ae/article/20090624/NATIONAL/706239826/1138

* June 24. 2009 1:02AM UAE / June 23. 2009 9:02PM GMT

Sheikh Ahmed bin Saqr Al Qasimi last night said he was not buying 60 per cent of an English Premier League club.

The state news agency WAM had said on Sunday night that he was on course to become the third Emirati with a stake in an English side, and that he was to become the unnamed club?s honorary chairman.

But Sheikh Ahmed has distanced himself from the claim, through WAM.

?Chairman of the Ras al Khaimah Customs and Ports Department Sheikh Ahmed bin Saqr Al Qasimi denied media reports suggesting that he has acquired 60 per cent of an unnamed leading Premier League football club,? a statement on WAM said last night.

The Premier League had also said it knew nothing about any intention by Sheikh Ahmed to buy into a club.

Speculation in England had suggested he could have helped finance the takeover of Portsmouth, being led by Sulaiman al Fahim.

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